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#13461 Nefertieh

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 08:10 AM

Kishimoto is totally clumsy
Remember when he said he tried showing sakura as a honest girl during the confession? When he got annoyed when people kept saying "Hinata, Hinata, Hinata "?

In my opinion he tried to pass something to the readers but we didn't got it

Even today i don't understand what was the point of that confession! Wouldn't be easier for sakura if she talked to naruto using the arguments Shikamaru used?
What was the point of confessing? Kishimoto saying she was honest then after the end saying changing her feelings would have made her look fickle? Makes no sense


The point of her confession was all because she thought Naruto was going after Sasuke purely for her sake, because of his POAL. Fans were constantly blaming Sakura for "burdening" Naruto with the POAL, but if that scene managed to achieve anything, it was to show Naruto wasn't chasing after Sasuke because of his promise to Sakura. It was because of their brotherly bond.

Also, there was no convincing Naruto to give up on Sasuke with Shikamaru's facts and logic. The Raikage said the same thing to Naruto and it didn't sway him at all.
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Posted 23 November 2014 - 08:22 AM

The point of her confession was all because she thought Naruto was going after Sasuke purely for her sake, because of his POAL. Fans were constantly blaming Sakura for "burdening" Naruto with the POAL, but if that scene managed to achieve anything, it was to show Naruto wasn't chasing after Sasuke because of his promise to Sakura. It was because of their brotherly bond.

Also, there was no convincing Naruto to give up on Sasuke with Shikamaru's facts and logic. The Raikage said the same thing to Naruto and it didn't sway him at all.


And that's why I hate sasunaru. Even that pairing sh*ts on NS by taking away the epic romantic motivation behind the PoaL.
In my headcanon it was all for Sakura..a little for Naruto..and 0.1% for Sasuke.
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Posted 23 November 2014 - 08:32 AM

And that's why I hate sasunaru. Even that pairing sh*ts on NS by taking away the epic romantic motivation behind the PoaL.
In my headcanon it was all for Sakura..a little for Naruto..and 0.1% for Sasuke.
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It honestly looks bad on Sakura if you think that Naruto saving Sasuke was 99.5% about her, given how much grief Sasuke has caused him. Like their relationship or not, the whole story was about Naruto changing people, and the ultimate final boss he had to change was Sasuke.

The day Naruto fell in love with Sakura was only something the US shounen jump did, I think. For fun.


No, it was in the Japanese WSJ.

 
They should have brought back Shion.  Naruto already promised her a child.


Shion practically screamed Hinata. White eyes, identical haircut. Only now SP has the real deal.
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Posted 23 November 2014 - 08:42 AM

 

Guys, I've asked this one tumblr user who lives in Japan (and speaks fluent English) about the Japanese reactions. Looks, like some people still hope for a surprise ending, implying how sh*tty this ending is! I love tumblr; without it, I would never be able to ask people this directly:

http://kawaiirenren....st/103342696853

 

"It’s mixed at the moment on how they feel about hinata, but when i went to the shop recently to buy a gundam figure i noticed how a lot of hinata merchandise that came out 2 weeks ago were still packed up on the shelves. People i know dont really like hinata much at all, my husband said to me also that many people said at the theaters ,who saw the poster of naruto the last, were not going to watch the movie or will watch it but hope there will be a suprise ending that will show naruto confessing to sakura or the world actually ending for them lol overall they are surprised at what happened but many of them are actually wondering more of the choji relationship and how that came to be xD so when i see what people are saying about how everyone over here loves hinata…it’s not all true :/ we actually had a blood drive in tokyo that had sakura and naruto on the front picture with sakura wearing a nurse outfit…i’v seen more pictures of them together here than anywhere else…so yes this hinata business was a big shock and kind of disappointing."

 

 

Oh this is pretty cool, thanks for sharing that with us! Wouldn't it be funny that after Kishi changing the main pairing just so has can make money, the movie flops big time?  :kukuku:  I don't think it will, though, because I still believe a lot of people like Hinata and the rest who don't are still going to watch the movie hoping they get some kind of explanation,



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Posted 23 November 2014 - 08:56 AM

I agree that Sasuke cared for Karin during that time because they were teammates. Sasuke can care for people when they are officially working as a team and on the same side.

But I think what shisui and Aizen-sama is saying is that it was never romantic. Hence, she's not a threat, she's like Suigetsu or Juugo.


It seemed like to me Karin was made to be an Uzumaki for the sole reason for pairing her up with Sasuke. She was meant to be so similar to fangirl!Sakura that she was a replacement of sorts. But people didn't like her.
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Posted 23 November 2014 - 09:01 AM

 
NH fans not giving a eff about Hinata wanting to become stronger, more confident, being acknowledged by her dad and clan and getting rid of the curse tradition. Essentially what the series and her character were about... True fans my ass


you aren't wrong at all nor
rocci or Askia

I won't watch this movie
Even if they say I'm a fake Naruto fan then too I won't mind
I prefer moving on and reading a BETTER manga

#13467 Nefertieh

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 09:09 AM

Yes, because she actually ended up with the abusing a**hole, therefore negating all her development and any credibility as a heroine she had left. That makes her worse by default.
 
At least Karin got an explanation for her liking Sasuke (a bad one, but at least Kishi tried there). All Sakura ever got was "love doesn't need a reason".

Actually, the reason was "Sakura would be a terrible character if she changed her love interest".

Errr, no. Kishimoto flat out confirmed her pairing fodder status in the latest interview. The fact that she's portrayed as nothing but a housewife in the epilogue tells you all you need to know about what her goals in life really were.
 

So don't make Naruto overly obsessed with Sasuke to begin with. It's unacceptable how a total a**hole got away with just a slap on the wrist and even got what the main character pursued for a good portion of the manga. The Sasuke wank from Kishimoto is ridiculous and completely ruined this series.
 

Such accomplishments resulted in no growth in personality or character, so it doesn't matter. If I can't sympathize with a character's goals (especially when it's the heroine of the story), that character is a failure in my book.
 
It's not like she had to end up with Naruto. Just don't revert her to her Part 1 self and have her pathetically trying to abandon her family and friends for a guy who always treated her badly.

Sakura becoming Sasuke's housewife is literally Kishimoto pushing her aside to give NH more credibility. The assistant said it himself, NH was decided ages ago, but SS was still up in the air.

That girl that blushed what Sasuke poked her in the head, despite all he put her through? No one here is disputing that the ending was garbage, but it certainly was not what her main goal in life throughout the story. Remember "watch my back"?

The ending should be tossed out based on inconsistencies alone. I'm somewhat baffled that the answer to parental neglect is "endure it", and I'm not exactly sure how having a forest of overcrowded skyscrapers actually addresses any of the social problems the manga has out forward.

Edited by Nefertieh, 23 November 2014 - 09:15 AM.

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 09:19 AM

What all do we have to witness tomorrow.....

 

I know the ending,i know NH is canon,I know it's over,i know trollmoto approved movie to be NH and canon but then why am i still hoping for NS to be canon in the movie.

 

Why i am still hoping for a surprise,on what basis am i hoping for this,i just don't understand.Why do i have a little hope inside me.

 

Oh i'm gonna suffer heavily becoz of this stupid hope.



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Posted 23 November 2014 - 09:27 AM

Tomorrow?? What's cooking tomorrow? ?? :wot:

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 09:30 AM

There's people that are going to be able to see an early screening of the next Naruto movie. We may even get spoilers.

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 09:32 AM

Why i am still hoping for a surprise,on what basis am i hoping for this,i just don't understand.Why do i have a little hope inside me.

 

Oh i'm gonna suffer heavily becoz of this stupid hope.

 

Haha you're not alone. I'm still here hoping Kishi just trolled us all really hard even though I know there is very very little hope of that ever happening. I won't watch the movie but I'll definitely read spilers on what's happening. It might make me depressed all over again but oh well, I'll just yolo it!



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Posted 23 November 2014 - 09:32 AM

What all do we have to witness tomorrow.....
 
I know the ending,i know NH is canon,I know it's over,i know trollmoto approved movie to be NH and canon but then why am i still hoping for NS to be canon in the movie.
 
Why i am still hoping for a surprise,on what basis am i hoping for this,i just don't understand.Why do i have a little hope inside me.
 
Oh i'm gonna suffer heavily becoz of this stupid hope.


We're all suffering. =| Speaking from someone who's suffered from depression, I can tell you the physical pain I feel from this, especially in the morning, is just as bad, albeit not as long.

NH may be canon, but at least we can laugh at how terrible it has been. Future fans will scratch their heads reading the manga looking for NH or SS development... Only to find none. The ending manga will be the poster boy as probably the one of the worst there is, and what's worse, it's all because the author is a misogynist.

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 09:35 AM

There's people that are going to be able to see an early screening of the next Naruto movie. We may even get spoilers.


tomorrow? ??

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 09:37 AM

tomorrow? ??


Yeah.

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 09:49 AM

Yeah.


ppl, please don't waste money then..

on crap
& I really feel bad for those who'll suffer tomorrow! !
Please guys, Salute those who are readily sacrificed their brain & heart for us getting spoilers!!



Anyways, I know it very well that they may spread FAKE news that movie is great for ppl to watch it"

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 10:17 AM

I am gonna to but the hinata clock on amazon jp.


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Posted 23 November 2014 - 10:20 AM

I am gonna to but the hinata clock on amazon jp.


You are going to buy???


anyways, Enjoy that "N..N..Naruto-kun"

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 10:41 AM

yes, I want to support this movie as much as possible. Shut up and take my money SP


Edited by 六道仙人, 23 November 2014 - 10:43 AM.

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 10:44 AM

yes, I want to support this movie


Congrats!! NH is going to make u cry & laugh!!


Take some flowers with u to gift this to SP ..They need support, u know!

EDIT: SAlute to you for sacrifice

Edited by Princess Iris, 23 November 2014 - 10:46 AM.


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Posted 23 November 2014 - 10:51 AM

I want to wake up every morning always pissed. :pimp:


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