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[BlueStarSaber]

It seem the Narutopedia has yet to make any edit on todays events.

[Inferno180]

With Sakura, they always do her last, they still need to make additions to some others with the return of madara section added to them.

[TouKen4Life3g]

With Sakura, they always do her last, they still need to make additions to some others with the return of madara section added to them.

Exactly. Hinata was proven here that this is not her moment, so keep away. At least Kishi is consistent to have her aware. But now, it's all Sakura and she will know the real deal behind Naruto's dying breath.

[redragon88]

So Harry is Sasuke? That's really a great shock for me

 

 

Edited by redragon88, 22 January 2014 - 11:12 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I Know Why Kishi is Taking a Break!

 

He’s setting up for Valentine’s Day!!! That’s why NaruSaku and SasuKarin got focused and will continue on! It all make sense!

[soraandven]

I think Sawyer's argument was pretty good actually. He only considered Karin and Sakura's power, not their role in this situation or relationship with the guys. He should regard that too, but I get why he doesn't because he doesn't care. Besides, NS have predicted Sakura's death too. I don't think he really believes she will remain dead, that would be weird.

 

I haven't watched fornever in a long time though. He's way too..promotional, and says what people want to hear. What did he say? Please answer without bashing him, I just want to know what people are upset about.

 

 

Well Sushi, the deal with forneverworld, he just says that the incident with sakura healing naruto, he calls her a "flat-chested crusty ass b-word" and says how Hinata should be alongside naruto in the incident. Basically throwing all rational commentary out the window and just using bias for his description of it. Really moves like this make him have no credibility if this is how he reacts to one character while imposing another.

 

As for what you said, the flaw in Swayers review, in what he thinks is coming, there are just too many holes and inconsistiences.

 

First is on the subject of Sakura actually moving away from Naruto in the situation as he says should happen, really it would prove useless and futile and just plain a waste of time resulting in both naruto and sasuke dying faster.

 

-Sakuras already with Naruto but nearly out of energy herself, if she actually left him, she would have even less energy to expend on sasuke to try and save him.

 

-Sasuke is bleeding out but obviously Gaara and the others don't have knowledge of him, only Karin and presumably Taka does now hearing this from her.

 

-Gaara even making a detour at this point would be even worse for Naruto, by all means only Sakura's remaining energy and his gradually fading stamina are keeping him alive. Essentially beyond that, Naruto doesn't have kurama to autoheal him or support him, its like Naruto is truly vulnerable for the first time without a healing aid of his own.

 

-Karin by all means is in top condition, she hasnt fought, only evaded attacks with Sugestu and orochimaru nearby. Really her knowing of this, its like Swayer didnt think this through, why would Karin go to sakura and make this trip when she is technically fine and in good condition to heal him herself? All they need to do is get to him in a short timespan. Its not like Orochimaru doesnt have healing abilities of his own either, he does. Madara even left him, whatever he is going to do next, he would rather not finish Sasuke off. This trip he predicted would be just unessessary in the long run.

 

- Furthermore, its just plain the difference in wounds, Sasuke got stabbed, its not like a conventional healing will get him up, Karin is fine and in good condition, she just needs a moment with Orochimaru, sugestisu, and jugo to go and retreive sasuke or heal him in place if madara really left. She can heal him, I mean Sasuke could take some of her energy but enough to heal her. Besides, she still cares for the guy even if he has issues and dark motives again, he just isnt physco like he was in the land of iron but Sasuke has taka to support him, Naruto however lost kurama, a great extraction toll on his body, whatever sets him back is most likely minato or something else but all we know is naruto is basically on life support with sakura keeping him alive for the time.

 

On the otherhand, the issue with Sakura dying, I always said it would lead to issues, even a temp death with a rinne tensei on her.

 

In a permadeath on Sakura, we are aware of the issues storywise and how it would just be too disastrous and lackluster for even NH to come by this.

 

Back before Obito was forced to revive madara, some predicted Sakura dying and Obito using it on her, others predicted that naruto would get the rinnegan and use it in anotherway maybe on sakura.

 

Many thought for a long time we would see Sakura, tsunade, or kakashi using chiyos technique and while it did make sense, it really lead to a common inconsistency that really would just be a time waster in some regards, a dual revival. Many have thought Sakura uses Chiyos technique on Naruto and then Obito would use Rinnegan on Sakura, but thats just a timewaster in the long run, it would create drama but be a sense of more repetition delaying the movement of the plot, really just temporary setting Sakura or so on the side.

 

A major problem however was the aspect of the technique even being known, while it has been possible, it just seems too far out there. Yes kishi could just cram it in but it would really be more out of the blue than some saw Sakura forming her own seal.

 

I will say that yes the technique doesnt need to be full use and can be the majority or enough energy to possibly stabilize naruto if it is possible, but other than that theres one key fact,

 

Really the problem is that its a forbidden technique that was made to try and put life into a puppet, but it was also a tensei class jutsu, essentially a lesser version of the rinne tensei, ones own life reincarnation as its called in the west. The issue, this logically means no one else ever learned it or those who did are unknown. The real issue here is, just who would use it? Sakura uses it on Naruto only to come back later herself? Tsunade uses it to open the position of hokage? Kakashi uses it to die with obito? This is why I hate the "Sakura dies for Naruto" Theory, so many of them result in the same condition of some dual revival, in which one she dies and comes back conventionally, its like that that point if obito can fire off another rinnegan, then revive everyone and neji too, not just sakura, but this leads to the other problem of undermining all the stuff the lost of neji did to impact naruto, makes even NH suffer from 615.

 

Its the same deal with tsunade and kakashi dying off like this, I long figure that beyond these events tsunade would step down in regards to the issues of what happened and let naruto and sasuke basically fight for the title rather than off tsunade so conventionally like Swayer is trying to do. Otherwise Kakashi is even harder to believe in this case, he could have learned it but he doesnt have any skill in this type of deal does he? Kakashi cannot just use the technique, besides if it wasn't chakra but life energy, then techinqually the sharigan should not be able to replicate the mechanics of manipulating life energy.

 

Those are the main problems many fans, even NS fans have with these someone using chiyo's technique theories, but under the sakura stuff,

 

-dual revival makes a few issues

-its too conventional and spontaneous for anyone to have knowledge of chiyos technique to use it themselves

-its not sacrifice or development, its the equivalent of a tag out and obito then just picks up and takes the exit slot out of the story by using rinne tensei again (if its even possible).

 

Really next chapter, if anything chiyo related comes up, its most likely her flashback to what she said about bijuu removal, in fact for her other statement about protecting those important to her, it wouldn't be life but something else possibly. I mean she could use the technique in a short amount to save naruto but it really isnt needed especially with this unseen destination they are going too which is a high chance its minato so narutos save is possibly already lying around. Whatever happens in the next chapter or 2, i would not be surprised if its the start of the recovery and by volumes end naruto and sasuke are recovered and all better. But in no point could Sakura die, I mean really, as much as I like NS I dont see Sakura dying to progress it and come back revived by a rinne tensei obito (using it again) as a good way to set the pairing, really if anything sets the pairing, it could be the coming chapters and the time before or after the final naruto vs sasuke battle.

 

The story is in its final phase and one thing I still cannot imagine, I cannot imagine the final fight at all without sakura present, it makes no sense, its like if Hinata truely was present in the final fight despite not even knowing or speaking to sasuke or about the issues, then how could she be releavent here? This was always the biggest weakness of NH, no correlation with Sasuke at all, Hinata and Sasuke basically exist in different dimensions in all purposes, they never interact or even acknowledge each others presence, they never even speak, just exist in the same releative space, and even then thats rare. I can name only 3 times they shared space, the intro in the classroom, the chunin exam preliminary building, and the battlefield when he comes in 631-632.

 

I like NS but I highly disagree with anyone who made these Sakura dies for naruto stuff, the whole concept of a dual revival serves little to no purpose and just seems unnessessary, if Obito revives someone, he should do everyone, even those not killed by him, Nagato was able to do that, revive all those killed, even by konan in the attack on the leaf. At this point I honestly think its better said that Sakura will live regardless and Neji and all those other 40,000 or so ninja are gone for good. Sad but true in my opinion, it shouldn't conventionally fall upon sakura only, or just have her die for good and leave NH as the most convinent pairing despite all the other written stuff with NS having development and easily identifiable foreshadow between 506-508 and with 631 building on it.

 

These theories of Sakura dying, they are just too conventional and well a waste of time in my opinion, the purposes they serve can be easily replaced with a method as many are thinking, just have minato use dark kurama to revive him, sakura just lives, and sasuke gets healed by karin or orochimaru. I hate these theories of sakura dying because there already exists stuff to render it unnessessary or those which have no real explaination, only sudden reveals that would say how she got it in a flashback. Its would really be more of what people have been complaining about for a long time, kishi going too slow, inserting new stuff suddenly, and making things more boggled up even not talking about pairings. Many thought Madaras tailed beast event would be the same fight we saw this past year, again, but with him. Others were not enthusiastic about Hashirama suddenly having something he could use on Madara and not a shocker giving it to sasuke.

 

Thats that I mean, this is why I dont like the Sakura dies for naruto theroies, as far as Im concerned, Im predicting sakura is fine, just tired and wounded and still trying to save naruto until they get to that area they need to be, and that area I assume is minato able to leave while leaving kakashi able to handle Black Zetsu with Obito resisting.

are you serious inferno dang i didnt even fully watch his 662 review yet its like a repeat of his 630 review when he said * you are not hinata its naruhina time*

[bthug]

Guys Guys, So NS was pretty much confirmed today. Sakura over Naruto, if Gaara explained she'd be even more volatile and from a real word perspective Kishi showed the parallels between, Naruto and Sasuke and more so their gals

 

 

Also Sasuke is dying near Naruto and she's pays him no mind, signed, sealed, and delivered 

Edited by bthug, 23 January 2014 - 12:47 AM.

[FireFox]

I predict that Sakura's gonna release her Yin seal fully even if she doesn't have much chakra left but she will do it out of a desperation to save him and realize how much she LOVES HIM  just like Naruto did it with the Kyuubi's chakra in the Gara fight 

[Inferno180]

Funny Naruto and Hinata have been updated but not Sakura, geez no wonder shes not updated yet, cause most see her as the pink roach.

 

It will be updated but seriously, its almost like a preemptive 631 again, some fans have gone into panic mode or are anxiously awaiting to see if a big NS moment happens, and I'm talking about the fans against NS.

[Liu bie]

 

I Know Why Kishi is Taking a Break!

 

He’s setting up for Valentine’s Day!!! That’s why NaruSaku and SasuKarin got focused and will continue on! It all make sense!

 

Do you think is going to be  a good Valentine’s Day if Sakura dies for Naruto? If she dies I hope she be alive for that special day.

[Branden]

Sakura is not going to die for Naruto. Chiyo was the only one who knew that forbidden technique and we've never heard her mention it. Honestly right now there's literally nothing she can do for him except slow down his death for a minute or two. It's the same with Karin, she could potentially slow it down but there's no fixing a sword through the heart.

I think Juugo and Minato are the only ones capable of saving our heroes at this point.

[Dalton.T.R]

So...after readingh chapter 662, I'm going to go on a whim and say NS may be very close to being confirmed. I think this is the push Sakura needs for her to really understand her feelings towards Naruto. I also think she and Hinata will have some kind of meeting or talk about their situation.

 

I'm not sure what Kishi has planned for Naruto's 'revival'. Maybe he'll pull one of his 'out of thin air moves' again and have Sakura get a truckload of chakra all of a sudden.

[咲耶姫]

So...after readingh chapter 662, I'm going to go on a whim and say NS may be very close to being confirmed. I think this is the push Sakura needs for her to really understand her feelings towards Naruto. I also think she and Hinata will have some kind of meeting or talk about their situation.

 

I'm not sure what Kishi has planned for Naruto's 'revival'. Maybe he'll pull one of his 'out of thin air moves' again and have Sakura get a truckload of chakra all of a sudden.

 There was a time, where I, like some NS fans nowadays think, was believing Hinata's resolution about her feelings could be avoided, but Kishi is constantly emphasizing her feelings in this war, in each chapter she appears, she's showing her feelings, her character is only about her love for Naruto now.

So, to me it's impossible for her to not have a talk about it in order to let it go. She can't do that only mentally, she has to speak out loud to tell she realized that has to let go her romantic feelings. 

Edited by 咲耶姫, 23 January 2014 - 04:52 AM.

[rocci]

I think hinata will show that naruto only love sakura, then she would realize that she has no chance to be with naruto. and move on.

 

oh maybe we would get a valentine special. maybe even a jump cover featuring narusaku

[Dalton.T.R]

Guys Guys, So NS was pretty much confirmed today. Sakura over Naruto, if Gaara explained she'd be even more volatile and from a real word perspective Kishi showed the parallels between, Naruto and Sasuke and more so their gals

 

 

Also Sasuke is dying near Naruto and she's pays him no mind, signed, sealed, and delivered 

So much for SS fans saying Sakura will just abandon Naruto lol

 

I think once Gaara tells everyone what happened, Sakura will tell Naruto she loves him or something like that. Maybe perform CPR    

[bthug]

And another thing, Hinata seemed to make it clear that she was trying to fulfill Neji's wish to protect Naruto. 

[TouKen4Life3g]

And another thing, Hinata seemed to make it clear that she was trying to fulfill Neji's wish to protect Naruto. 

Either way, it's about Neji along with Naruto. Go figure. But yeah, she's done. She can only pray. Sakura will get the main course.

[LuckyChi7]

You know lately for the past couple volumes (66 to be precise), I keep getting the notion that Hinata is gonna bite the dust. I'm not trying to bash the character, but I just thought what if she dies saving Naruto and Sakura, and tells her to watch over him. Granted one Hyuga has already died, and it be like oh really another Hyuga dies. Though you never know judging by the way Kishi's been taking the manga as of late in this particular volume to say the least.  

[rocci]

i doubt hinata will dead and I think her last role in this manga before getting closure is her love for naruto.

either hinata will witness naruto love sakura and give up or she confront her feeling to naruto (to demand answer for her confenssion.)

[Dalton.T.R]

i doubt hinata will dead and I think her last role in this manga before getting closure is her love for naruto.

either hinata will witness naruto love sakura and give up or she confront her feeling to naruto (to demand answer for her confenssion.)

personally...I don't think she's expecting a response to her confession. I think she would have said something before Sakura hugged Naruto.