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Posted 09 April 2009 - 11:47 PM

QUOTE (Derock @ Apr 9 2009, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmmm... taking shots:



Clearly, you miss ALOT of points. He did have a crush on Sakura. And still does in a mature way. Stated WAY back in the beginning of Chapter 3 when Sakura first appeared. We seen a panel of Naruto looking "lovey-dovey" (not with the hearts in his eyes) at her. And in those boxes, he stated she was a "total babe" (Viz English Translation). So clearly, the reader can understand that he DOES have a crush on her. Go back and read both online and English manga (find it at a bookstore/library).



And? What's your point? It's called, "drama." Both and all pairings can't be hooked up right at the bat. There has to be developments and conflicts so it can provide interests to the reader. Sure the confessions can mean something but the points are these:

Sakura's confession ---> based on desperation for not letting her crush leave and go seeking revenge. From Sasuke: knocked her out by saying "Thank you" and leaves.

Hinata's confession ---> trying to save her crush by being brave and tries to attack one crazy, super-power villian which lead her to near death. From Naruto: turned into Kyuubi mode, 6-8 tails, which he had said he don't want to use that power again when trying to protect his friends/family

Both of those boys didn't say to them, respectfully, "Oh I love you too. Let's go on our merry way." Hardly there was no immediate love reaction from the two.

And I like to point out that part of Sakura finding out Hinata's confession, it's a mistranslation.



Trying the bashing route, eh? rolleyes.gif Likewise to your opinion/statement. The story is still continuing right now.



Always trying to assume Sakura is such a b*tch towards Naruto but goes lovey-dovey towards Sasuke when we know he always turned her down?

You missed more points:

1) back at Part 1, she said she accepted his "date" right after his fight with Sasuke at the hospital rooftop.
2) she agreed if he pays for the date back at the beginning of Part 2.
3) Before meeting Kakashi at the hospital before Hidan and Kakuzu appeared, she suggested that he should focus on reading books for training the mind and body
4) When he asked again, she said they have an important meeting with Tsunade, meaning in her eyes, official priorities comes first.

As I mentioned before, it's DEVELOPMENT.

I agree with all of what you said. But who is stating the illogical blabber that you so epicly smashed into the ground? Some SasuSaku fan trying to press his "logic" or a NaruSaku fan gone astray? To me it sounds like a Sasusaku fan but with all these Hinata situations, some NaruSaku fans are starting to lose hope.

But anyway your counter to this persons "evidence" was simply epic. biggrin.gif

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 11:53 PM

QUOTE (zman170 @ Apr 9 2009, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree with all of what you said. But who is stating the illogical blabber that you so epicly smashed into the ground? Some SasuSaku fan trying to press his "logic" or a NaruSaku fan gone astray? To me it sounds like a Sasusaku fan but with all these Hinata situations, some NaruSaku fans are starting to lose hope.

But anyway your counter to this persons "evidence" was simply epic. biggrin.gif


You replied from my original post before I edited it. tongue.gif But yeah, he sound like pro-SasuSaku/NaruHina. He will try something again that will mess up my logic. I'll wait so I can counterattack. tongue.gif

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 12:11 AM

I'm starting to see a little too much bashing of the poster. Remember:

* Be nice and treat others with respect.
* Refrain from character bashing

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 12:23 AM

QUOTE (Derock @ Apr 9 2009, 06:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmmm... taking shots:



Clearly, you miss ALOT of points. He did have a crush on Sakura. And still does in a mature way. Stated WAY back in the beginning of Chapter 3 when Sakura first appeared. We seen a panel of Naruto looking "lovey-dovey" (not with the hearts in his eyes) at her. And in those boxes, he stated she was a "total babe" (Viz English Translation). So clearly, the reader can understand that he DOES have a crush on her. Go back and read both online and English manga (find it at a bookstore/library).



And? What's your point? It's called, "drama." Both and all pairings can't be hooked up right at the bat. There has to be developments and conflicts so it can provide interests to the reader. Sure the confessions can mean something but the points are these:

Sakura's confession ---> based on desperation for not letting her crush leave and go seeking revenge. From Sasuke: knocked her out by saying "Thank you" and leaves.

Hinata's confession ---> trying to save her crush by being brave and tries to attack one crazy, super-power villian which lead her to near death. From Naruto: turned into Kyuubi mode, 6-8 tails, which he had said he don't want to use that power again when trying to protect his friends/family

Both of those boys didn't say to them, respectfully, "Oh I love you too. Let's go on our merry way." Hardly there was no immediate love reaction from the two.

And I like to point out that part of Sakura finding out Hinata's confession, it's a mistranslation.



Trying the bashing route, eh? rolleyes.gif Likewise to your opinion/statement. The story is still continuing right now.



Always trying to assume Sakura is such a b*tch towards Naruto but goes lovey-dovey towards Sasuke when we know he always turned her down?

You missed more points:

For the NaruSaku dates -
1) back at Part 1, she said she accepted his "date" right after his fight with Sasuke at the hospital rooftop.
2) she agreed if he pays for the date back at the beginning of Part 2.
3) Before meeting Kakashi at the hospital before Hidan and Kakuzu appeared, she suggested that he should focus on reading books for training the mind and body
4) When he asked again, she said they have an important meeting with Tsunade, meaning in her eyes, official priorities comes first.

Mentioned in the 3rd Databook: she's currently searching the answers of her feelings for Naruto. Development is still on work here on their relationship.




Thank you for your help really I was getting a little bit frustrated with this dude bugging me for shipping Naruto x Sakura. I will use some quotes form you is that all right.

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 12:42 AM

I don't mind.

And if that guy does anymore bashing in his comments, please don't transfer it in here.

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 12:50 AM

QUOTE (Derock @ Apr 9 2009, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't mind.

And if that guy does anymore bashing in his comments, please don't transfer it in here.


Sorry I wasn't sure sorry again and thank you.

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 07:35 AM

I'm sorry, but I only see the same hypocritical, double-standard arguments of always: Naruto will get over Sakura because she's always shutting him down, but Sakura never will get over Sasuke despite he's always shutting her down; it can't be considered Naruto loves Sakura because he's never uttered it, but it was plainly preposterous claiming Hinata didn't love Naruto despite she never thought it or said it outloud before chapter 437, and it's plainly preposterous guessing Sakura has fallen in love with Naruto despite it's been hinted, right like it had been hinted with Hinata...

I'm tired of fandom's double standards and willfully stubborn blindness. If a fan ships Character A/Character V together and watches one scene between them, he/she claims that moment unarguably shows their love. But if he/she watches the SAME scene between Character A y Character B, he denies it implies romantic develoment. Any and all proof or hint will be denied it if isn't convenient or doesn't help the shipping.

To me, it's always been clear that: Naruto loved Sakura; Sakura loved Sasuke but was gradually falling for Naruto; Sasuke loved NOBODY, and wants NOBODY'S love; Hinata liked Naruto, Ino liked Sasuke and Lee liked Sakura.

Out of all those relationships, I only ship NaruSaku. Still, I acknowledge all of them, not only the ones are convenient to my shipping. And I thought Naruto and Sakura would become one pairing HUNDREDS of chapters -literally- before I supported them. So I think I'm not being an hypocrite only sees what he wants seeing.

Naruto has stated he likes Sakura SINCE THE BEGINNING, and it's been stated in almost all databooks and relationship charts (but the third, but it's been restated in the last mini-databook, which covers the last chapters). Having Naruto in love with Sakura now wouldn't be bad writing on Kishimoto's part. Having him falling in love with Hinata all of sudden, only because she's confessed in a suicidal moment, WOULD be bad writing.

So the chances of NaruSaku have hit rock-bottom because Hinata has confessed? Right like they hit rock-bottom when Sakura confessed to Sasuke? Or the chances of SasuSaku hit rock-bottm when Ino confessed Sasuke and Lee confessed Sakura -and risked his life for her-? Confession is NOT equal to reciprocation.

I think I know why NaruHina fans tell NaruSaku has been destroyed right now: Hinata's confession was their last hope. If she didn't confess or Naruto rejected her, all hope would be lost. Therefore, they refuse believing Naruto can turn her down. And given that they have convinced themselves Hinata has an important role in Naruto's life and Naruto doesn't love Sakura (despite he's said so, and has proved it with words and facts), they think it's certain he'll love her back.

The thing is... Naruto loves Sakura. He has said it and he had proved it with words and facts long before Hinata opened her mouth. He barely knows Hinata, she isn't an important person to him, and they've barely talked in 443 chapters. It isn't guaranteed at all he'll love her back.

Oh, and the last mini-databook covers up to chapter 437, but it doesn't mention the confession. Hinata doesn't even show up in the relationship charts. Given that in the last databook shows up SHIHO, you can see how important Hinata is to the history.

Nevertheless, apparently that person was starting to get deffensive and hostile. I think you should tell that person if he/she can't argue without trying putting the other side or you down, then the two of you should stop the debate.

Talking about debates, I think you should read this tiny mini-comic:

AntiNHSS Pairing Wank

Edit: I've just noticed this tiny paragraph:

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LMAO. So do you mean to tell me that Sakura's and Hinata's confessions to Sasuke and Naruto (respectively) won't mean a thing as the story goes on? And why should Sakura and Naruto go for each other, when... 1. Naruto knows how Sakura feels about Sasuke? 2. Sakura NOW knows how Hinata feels about Naruto? It'd reflect poorly on both Naruto and Sakura.


Their confessions won't mean one thing to the story? How much do they matter? The story is about Naruto, his fights and his growing, and how he accomplishes his goals out of sheer determination and stubborness. It's NOT about the unrequited feelings of Hinata and Sakura.

But yes, they will mean anything: closing some dangling plot threads. As far as I can see, Sakura's confession killed SasuSaku and let Sakura moving on. When the rescue party returned to the village, she stated she'd visit NARUTO first. And since then we haven't seen her thinking over her feelings for Sasuke not one single time. It's possible she still likes him, but it's very ambiguous.

Hinata's confession seemed more focused on Hinata than on Naruto/Hinata's relationship, like always. She managed shedding her weaknessess and shyness and becoming the brave person she wanted being. Even if she doesn't end up with Naruto, she'll have managed her main objetive: becoming stronger. Therefore, it doesn't matter if he returns her feelings or not. She'll have fullfilled her goals, shut the last plotline involving her, and be able move on.

It'd reflect poorly on Naruto and Sakura? That's another scurrilous, grasping-at-the-straws, searching-anything-to-lambaste-regardless-the-sense-it-does argument makes no sense and isn't one reason against one pairing.

Moreover, if you have seen the series, it's a moot point: Sakura was chasing Sasuke since the beginning, Naruto knew it, and still chased her; Sakura knew what Ino liked Sasuke and she didn't step out of the way. And Ino was her best friend.

And using that twisted, convenient logic, Sasuke knows Naruto likes Sakura, and Naruto is his best friend, so why would he pursue one relationship with her (even if he likes Sakura, which he doesn't)? Why would Hinata chase Naruto if she realizes he likes Sakura (and remember she has never chased him)?

If Sakura believes Naruto is in love with Hinata and she'd make him happy, she could choose backing down (but to make that argument, you'd have to admit she loves Naruto more genuinely than she ever loved Sasuke), but if Naruto loves her, because Sakura should step out of the way? Her priority is Naruto's happiness, not the feelings of a girl she barely knows.

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 03:19 PM

QUOTE (Jenskott @ Apr 10 2009, 03:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sorry, but I only see the same hypocritical, double-standard arguments of always: Naruto will get over Sakura because she's always shutting him down, but Sakura never will get over Sasuke despite he's always shutting her down; it can't be considered Naruto loves Sakura because he's never uttered it, but it was plainly preposterous claiming Hinata didn't love Naruto despite she never thought it or said it outloud before chapter 437, and it's plainly preposterous guessing Sakura has fallen in love with Naruto despite it's been hinted, right like it had been hinted with Hinata...

I'm tired of fandom's double standards and willfully stubborn blindness. If a fan ships Character A/Character V together and watches one scene between them, he/she claims that moment unarguably shows their love. But if he/she watches the SAME scene between Character A y Character B, he denies it implies romantic develoment. Any and all proof or hint will be denied it if isn't convenient or doesn't help the shipping.

To me, it's always been clear that: Naruto loved Sakura; Sakura loved Sasuke but was gradually falling for Naruto; Sasuke loved NOBODY, and wants NOBODY'S love; Hinata liked Naruto, Ino liked Sasuke and Lee liked Sakura.

Out of all those relationships, I only ship NaruSaku. Still, I acknowledge all of them, not only the ones are convenient to my shipping. And I thought Naruto and Sakura would become one pairing HUNDREDS of chapters -literally- before I supported them. So I think I'm not being an hypocrite only sees what he wants seeing.

Naruto has stated he likes Sakura SINCE THE BEGINNING, and it's been stated in almost all databooks and relationship charts (but the third, but it's been restated in the last mini-databook, which covers the last chapters). Having Naruto in love with Sakura now wouldn't be bad writing on Kishimoto's part. Having him falling in love with Hinata all of sudden, only because she's confessed in a suicidal moment, WOULD be bad writing.

So the chances of NaruSaku have hit rock-bottom because Hinata has confessed? Right like they hit rock-bottom when Sakura confessed to Sasuke? Or the chances of SasuSaku hit rock-bottm when Ino confessed Sasuke and Lee confessed Sakura -and risked his life for her-? Confession is NOT equal to reciprocation.

I think I know why NaruHina fans tell NaruSaku has been destroyed right now: Hinata's confession was their last hope. If she didn't confess or Naruto rejected her, all hope would be lost. Therefore, they refuse believing Naruto can turn her down. And given that they have convinced themselves Hinata has an important role in Naruto's life and Naruto doesn't love Sakura (despite he's said so, and has proved it with words and facts), they think it's certain he'll love her back.

The thing is... Naruto loves Sakura. He has said it and he had proved it with words and facts long before Hinata opened her mouth. He barely knows Hinata, she isn't an important person to him, and they've barely talked in 443 chapters. It isn't guaranteed at all he'll love her back.

Oh, and the last mini-databook covers up to chapter 437, but it doesn't mention the confession. Hinata doesn't even show up in the relationship charts. Given that in the last databook shows up SHIHO, you can see how important Hinata is to the history.

Nevertheless, apparently that person was starting to get deffensive and hostile. I think you should tell that person if he/she can't argue without trying putting the other side or you down, then the two of you should stop the debate.

Talking about debates, I think you should read this tiny mini-comic:

AntiNHSS Pairing Wank

Edit: I've just noticed this tiny paragraph:



Their confessions won't mean one thing to the story? How much do they matter? The story is about Naruto, his fights and his growing, and how he accomplishes his goals out of sheer determination and stubborness. It's NOT about the unrequited feelings of Hinata and Sakura.

But yes, they will mean anything: closing some dangling plot threads. As far as I can see, Sakura's confession killed SasuSaku and let Sakura moving on. When the rescue party returned to the village, she stated she'd visit NARUTO first. And since then we haven't seen her thinking over her feelings for Sasuke not one single time. It's possible she still likes him, but it's very ambiguous.

Hinata's confession seemed more focused on Hinata than on Naruto/Hinata's relationship, like always. She managed shedding her weaknessess and shyness and becoming the brave person she wanted being. Even if she doesn't end up with Naruto, she'll have managed her main objetive: becoming stronger. Therefore, it doesn't matter if he returns her feelings or not. She'll have fullfilled her goals, shut the last plotline involving her, and be able move on.

It'd reflect poorly on Naruto and Sakura? That's another scurrilous, grasping-at-the-straws, searching-anything-to-lambaste-regardless-the-sense-it-does argument makes no sense and isn't one reason against one pairing.

Moreover, if you have seen the series, it's a moot point: Sakura was chasing Sasuke since the beginning, Naruto knew it, and still chased her; Sakura knew what Ino liked Sasuke and she didn't step out of the way. And Ino was her best friend.

And using that twisted, convenient logic, Sasuke knows Naruto likes Sakura, and Naruto is his best friend, so why would he pursue one relationship with her (even if he likes Sakura, which he doesn't)? Why would Hinata chase Naruto if she realizes he likes Sakura (and remember she has never chased him)?

If Sakura believes Naruto is in love with Hinata and she'd make him happy, she could choose backing down (but to make that argument, you'd have to admit she loves Naruto more genuinely than she ever loved Sasuke), but if Naruto loves her, because Sakura should step out of the way? Her priority is Naruto's happiness, not the feelings of a girl she barely knows.


Amen, amen, AMEN! XDDDD

You elaborated that more than I did. a_thumbs.gif

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 03:56 PM

QUOTE (Jenskott @ Apr 10 2009, 02:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sorry, but I only see the same hypocritical, double-standard arguments of always: Naruto will get over Sakura because she's always shutting him down, but Sakura never will get over Sasuke despite he's always shutting her down; it can't be considered Naruto loves Sakura because he's never uttered it, but it was plainly preposterous claiming Hinata didn't love Naruto despite she never thought it or said it outloud before chapter 437, and it's plainly preposterous guessing Sakura has fallen in love with Naruto despite it's been hinted, right like it had been hinted with Hinata...

I'm tired of fandom's double standards and willfully stubborn blindness. If a fan ships Character A/Character V together and watches one scene between them, he/she claims that moment unarguably shows their love. But if he/she watches the SAME scene between Character A y Character B, he denies it implies romantic develoment. Any and all proof or hint will be denied it if isn't convenient or doesn't help the shipping.

To me, it's always been clear that: Naruto loved Sakura; Sakura loved Sasuke but was gradually falling for Naruto; Sasuke loved NOBODY, and wants NOBODY'S love; Hinata liked Naruto, Ino liked Sasuke and Lee liked Sakura.

Out of all those relationships, I only ship NaruSaku. Still, I acknowledge all of them, not only the ones are convenient to my shipping. And I thought Naruto and Sakura would become one pairing HUNDREDS of chapters -literally- before I supported them. So I think I'm not being an hypocrite only sees what he wants seeing.

Naruto has stated he likes Sakura SINCE THE BEGINNING, and it's been stated in almost all databooks and relationship charts (but the third, but it's been restated in the last mini-databook, which covers the last chapters). Having Naruto in love with Sakura now wouldn't be bad writing on Kishimoto's part. Having him falling in love with Hinata all of sudden, only because she's confessed in a suicidal moment, WOULD be bad writing.

So the chances of NaruSaku have hit rock-bottom because Hinata has confessed? Right like they hit rock-bottom when Sakura confessed to Sasuke? Or the chances of SasuSaku hit rock-bottm when Ino confessed Sasuke and Lee confessed Sakura -and risked his life for her-? Confession is NOT equal to reciprocation.

I think I know why NaruHina fans tell NaruSaku has been destroyed right now: Hinata's confession was their last hope. If she didn't confess or Naruto rejected her, all hope would be lost. Therefore, they refuse believing Naruto can turn her down. And given that they have convinced themselves Hinata has an important role in Naruto's life and Naruto doesn't love Sakura (despite he's said so, and has proved it with words and facts), they think it's certain he'll love her back.

The thing is... Naruto loves Sakura. He has said it and he had proved it with words and facts long before Hinata opened her mouth. He barely knows Hinata, she isn't an important person to him, and they've barely talked in 443 chapters. It isn't guaranteed at all he'll love her back.

Oh, and the last mini-databook covers up to chapter 437, but it doesn't mention the confession. Hinata doesn't even show up in the relationship charts. Given that in the last databook shows up SHIHO, you can see how important Hinata is to the history.

Nevertheless, apparently that person was starting to get deffensive and hostile. I think you should tell that person if he/she can't argue without trying putting the other side or you down, then the two of you should stop the debate.

Talking about debates, I think you should read this tiny mini-comic:

AntiNHSS Pairing Wank

Edit: I've just noticed this tiny paragraph:



Their confessions won't mean one thing to the story? How much do they matter? The story is about Naruto, his fights and his growing, and how he accomplishes his goals out of sheer determination and stubborness. It's NOT about the unrequited feelings of Hinata and Sakura.

But yes, they will mean anything: closing some dangling plot threads. As far as I can see, Sakura's confession killed SasuSaku and let Sakura moving on. When the rescue party returned to the village, she stated she'd visit NARUTO first. And since then we haven't seen her thinking over her feelings for Sasuke not one single time. It's possible she still likes him, but it's very ambiguous.

Hinata's confession seemed more focused on Hinata than on Naruto/Hinata's relationship, like always. She managed shedding her weaknessess and shyness and becoming the brave person she wanted being. Even if she doesn't end up with Naruto, she'll have managed her main objetive: becoming stronger. Therefore, it doesn't matter if he returns her feelings or not. She'll have fullfilled her goals, shut the last plotline involving her, and be able move on.

It'd reflect poorly on Naruto and Sakura? That's another scurrilous, grasping-at-the-straws, searching-anything-to-lambaste-regardless-the-sense-it-does argument makes no sense and isn't one reason against one pairing.

Moreover, if you have seen the series, it's a moot point: Sakura was chasing Sasuke since the beginning, Naruto knew it, and still chased her; Sakura knew what Ino liked Sasuke and she didn't step out of the way. And Ino was her best friend.

And using that twisted, convenient logic, Sasuke knows Naruto likes Sakura, and Naruto is his best friend, so why would he pursue one relationship with her (even if he likes Sakura, which he doesn't)? Why would Hinata chase Naruto if she realizes he likes Sakura (and remember she has never chased him)?

If Sakura believes Naruto is in love with Hinata and she'd make him happy, she could choose backing down (but to make that argument, you'd have to admit she loves Naruto more genuinely than she ever loved Sasuke), but if Naruto loves her, because Sakura should step out of the way? Her priority is Naruto's happiness, not the feelings of a girl she barely knows.



Nice

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 12:45 AM

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Uh.... no.

Naruto's goal is to become Hokage and gain acknowledgment from everyone (Sakura included).

But under no circumstances did Naruto make it his goal to get with Sakura.




Here his reply I am getting ticked off with this dude. Really I am he just needs to stop really I am tearing his augments apart really but he just wont see it.

Edited by RyrineaHaruno, 11 April 2009 - 02:03 AM.


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Posted 11 April 2009 - 01:58 AM

QUOTE (RyrineaHaruno @ Apr 10 2009, 08:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Uh.... no.

Naruto's goal is to become Hokage and gain acknowledgment from everyone (Sakura included).

But under no circumstances did Naruto make it his goal to get with Sakura.


And, it was never his goal to get with Hinata or any other girl. Sakura is considered to be Naruto's "Apple of his eye." His feelings for her is still high.

This guy is very desperate. I'm gonna end it with this:

Kthxbai :cookie:

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 02:40 AM

QUOTE (Derock @ Apr 10 2009, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And, it was never his goal to get with Hinata or any other girl. Sakura is considered to be Naruto's "Apple of his eye." His feelings for her is still high.

This guy is very desperate. I'm gonna end it with this:

Kthxbai :cookie:


Really he is isn't he/she lol.

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 11:38 PM

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I try to be pairing neutral, though in recent weeks I've considered the possibility of Naruto hooking up with Hinata because she confessed. I just don't believe Kishi to be overthinking on this. If he had her confess, then the possibilities of Naruto hooking up with her are pretty high at this point. Don't get me wrong, I originally thought Naruto would hook up with Sakura, but after she confessed to Sasuke I just didn't see how it was going to happen. We're not talking about some crazy romance manga, so these things don't get that complicated.

Naruto says he likes Sakura, but they've never had any romantic moments that weren't comedy. I'm reading the same manga as you are, but we have different points of view. As I said, if things were so obvious, then we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Oh, and I agree that Sakura's comment is a bit vague, but I think the spirit of it is that she's commenting on how Hinata did what she did because of how she feels about Naruto. I guess we as readers know what's going on, so there's no reason to spell it out. Or he likes us to debate over this stuff.... Heh, heh.
Um this is a new reply really I think he is getting really desperate.

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 01:06 AM

Yes im getting very tired of all the hypocritical responses from people and how they see everything other than their pairing as nonexsistant blabber and Jenskott gave a good argument against this that was so Epic, anything i write would dull in compairson.

(IMPORTANT: This is not intended to be bashing)
One question i have is how do NaruHina fans even begin to think in those twisted ways of interpreting the story? It's as if they are completely oblivious to the most obvious of hints and story plot and read the manga as if nothing between Naru and Sakura ever happened. It's as if they trick them selfs into seeing the manga as a NaruHina fanfiction. What i would like to know is how they even get to this point without even thinking about the rest of the story? (Once again, this is not bashing, just simple curiosity of how a NaruHina fan's brain ticks.)

Edited by zman170, 12 April 2009 - 01:07 AM.


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Posted 12 April 2009 - 01:17 AM

QUOTE (zman170 @ Apr 11 2009, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes im getting very tired of all the hypocritical responses from people and how they see everything other than their pairing as nonexsistant blabber and Jenskott gave a good argument against this that was so Epic, anything i write would dull in compairson.

(IMPORTANT: This is not intended to be bashing)
One question i have is how do NaruHina fans even begin to think in those twisted ways of interpreting the story? It's as if they are completely oblivious to the most obvious of hints and story plot and read the manga as if nothing between Naru and Sakura ever happened. It's as if they trick them selfs into seeing the manga as a NaruHina fanfiction. What i would like to know is how they even get to this point without even thinking about the rest of the story? (Once again, this is not bashing, just simple curiosity of how a NaruHina fan's brain ticks.)

I really have no clue what so ever really I think that most are anime only watchers. That how I started how and they made it seem that Naruto x Hinata was cannon. Plus Sasuke was not such a a**hole in the Anime. I hate the anime know that I read the manga. I had know idea that they didn't act like that in the manga. Plus Sakura was a uber Sasuke Fan Girl.

Edited by RyrineaHaruno, 12 April 2009 - 01:35 AM.


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Posted 12 April 2009 - 01:19 AM

QUOTE (RyrineaHaruno @ Apr 11 2009, 09:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really have no clue what so ever really I think that most are anime only watchers. That how I started how and they made it seem that Naruto x Hinata was cannon. Plus Susake was not such a a**hole in the Anime. I hate the anime know that I read the manga. I had know idea that they didn't act like that in the manga. Plus Sakura was a uber Sasuke Fan Girl.


Sakura in the manga and anime were both Sasuke fangirls.

No difference in either version. And it's spelled 'Sasuke'.

Sasuke anime and manga were nearly the same, they really don't change that much from the manga when animating, except maying adding stuff to extend the time.

Edited by Cloud, 12 April 2009 - 01:20 AM.


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Posted 12 April 2009 - 01:34 AM

QUOTE (Cloud @ Apr 11 2009, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sakura in the manga and anime were both Sasuke fangirls.

No difference in either version. And it's spelled 'Sasuke'.

Sasuke anime and manga were nearly the same, they really don't change that much from the manga when animating, except mabye adding stuff to extend the time.


I mean they way she acted in the first part was a Ubber Sasuke fan girl( you know Ino style) instead of Sakura with just a crush on Sasuke. ( freaking typos). They made her hit Naruto a lot too. I mean every few shots are him getting hit in part one. They also made Hinata faint a lot during the fillers episodes. In the anime he actted like he really wanted to be a part of the team in the anime. dry.gif

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 01:37 AM

QUOTE (RyrineaHaruno @ Apr 11 2009, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I mean they way she acted in the first part was a Ubber Sasuke fan girl( you know Ino style) instead of Sakura with just a crush on Sasuke. ( freaking typos). They made her hit Naruto a lot too. I mean every few shots are him getting hit in part one. They also made Hinata faint a lot during the fillers episodes. In the anime he actted like he really wanted to be a part of the team in the anime. dry.gif



Still don't see what you're getting at. Manga/Anime = no difference in how Sakura acts.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/3/09/

^ Proof. They animated that exact same scene. And sometimes Sakura hit Naruto because of the stupid things he does... Hinata faints regardless of filler/canon episodes. Filler is what it says, its filler, but she faints most of the time anyways.

In the manga, Sasuke was also trying to be part of the team. There are no MAJOR differences.

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 02:03 AM

QUOTE (Cloud @ Apr 11 2009, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Still don't see what you're getting at. Manga/Anime = no difference in how Sakura acts.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/3/09/

^ Proof. They animated that exact same scene. And sometimes Sakura hit Naruto because of the stupid things he does... Hinata faints regardless of filler/canon episodes. Filler is what it says, its filler, but she faints most of the time anyways.

In the manga, Sasuke was also trying to be part of the team. There are no MAJOR differences.

Your right I must be seeing things lol.

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 02:42 AM

QUOTE (RyrineaHaruno @ Apr 11 2009, 09:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really have no clue what so ever really I think that most are anime only watchers. That how I started how and they made it seem that Naruto x Hinata was cannon. Plus Sasuke was not such a a**hole in the Anime. I hate the anime know that I read the manga. I had know idea that they didn't act like that in the manga. Plus Sakura was a uber Sasuke Fan Girl.

I don't really think it matter if they only watch the anime or what because in both manga and anime, it shows no sign of him even noticing Hinata let alone talking to her, so i don't even see how they can think of the idea in the first place. I think they just see that fact that a cute shy girl like Naruto, so they automaticlly begin to make fantasies in their head and then look at the manga through those fantasies and canceling out everything else that goes against said fantasies. That;s my thought anyway and if anyone has a better answer, please tell me because i honestly don't see how people can be so stubborn as to not even notice what the hecks going on in the manga. (Once again this is not bashing and in no way am trying to bash NaruHina fans.)

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