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[Fenris]

Any idea when the raws will be released so we can finally settle this mess?

[Branden]

Wow, already 60+ pages and it's only been a day. I didn't realize this chapter was so controversial. Can someone give me a brief recap of what everyone has talking about?

[narusakuotp]

That was also awful. Kishi validated the "love doesn't need a reason/doesn't make sense/is irrational" bullsh** we get from SS. They BOTH need a reason, wth?

Well, at least Sasuke understands that, unlike Kishi, Kakashi, and Sakura...

[Otaru]

Any idea when the raws will be released so we can finally settle this mess?

 

Well not today that's for sure.
Maybe in a couple of days or more.

 

 

Wow, already 60+ pages and it's only been a day. I didn't realize this chapter was so controversial. Can someone give me a brief recap of what everyone has talking about?

 

The commotion is because Mangastream version is a lot different than mangapanda version. Also, some people are unhappy of Kishi's way to treat Sakura as a character.

Edited by Otaru, 26 September 2014 - 01:34 AM.

[ButterBean]

All of this Sakura bashing in every forum I visited makes me sad...

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

All of this Sakura bashing in every forum I visited makes me sad...

Me too.

[luffyq1]

Bet Kishi's is laughing at all of NS SN and NH fans. Does he care that he's screwing up?

Kishi probably thinks his writing is top class. 

[六道仙人]

jesis christ...I just see that some NS fans on NF are moving on to NH fandom... this is really annoying... -.-

[luffyq1]

jesis christ...I just see that some NS fans on NF are moving on to NH fandom... this is really annoying... -.-

yeah LOL

[Nostradamus]

 

MS is the right one. deal with this. move on

Sorry but didn't you say the raws are out next week and you're saying it's present tense because of some blog post?

Or did I misinterpreted?

[James S Cassidy]

No need to be confused.
We already get the sakura > sasuke moment, and to some extend sasuke > sakura moment.

Now we only need to wait for a sakura > naruto and naruto > sakura before naruto >< sakura moment(naruto confession).

I am confused because these translations don't match up to what has been happening in the story of the manga. Neither MS or MP match up at all.

[Otaru]

jesis christ...I just see that some NS fans on NF are moving on to NH fandom... this is really annoying... -.-

 

They will come back in a few chapters. LOL

[Fenris]

All of this Sakura bashing in every forum I visited makes me sad...

It's pretty damn ridiculous how people are changing ships.

Edited by Fenris, 26 September 2014 - 01:37 AM.

[luffyq1]

 

They will come back in a few chapters. LOL

We don't want them back.

[Liu bie]

Somehow episode 235 filler is becoming canon.

[Swagkura]

jesis christ...I just see that some NS fans on NF are moving on to NH fandom... this is really annoying... -.-

Their gonna be even worse over there, but

[CloudMountainJuror]

ramenamitsu already confirmed it was present tense, unless I'm missing something (the bolded):

Good morning.

I don't think you bring bad luck. It's just that the fake predictions will look really silly from now on because we're making fun of others while we ourselves don't have much ground to stand on.

NS is obviously still the endgame, but what's the point of shipping them when you can't admire, sympathize, and enjoy the couple? I don't ship them because I want to win the pairing war. I shipped them because I thought their relationship was solely growing in a consistent manner and I found that to be wonderful. Well, anyways, I stopped shipping them a while ago because I don't trust Kishi's writing.

This chapter what disappointed me was not the pairings, but how he wrote the individual characters.

Naruto, messiah doesn't mean "emotionless" or "indifferent". Naruto is a messiah only through the effect of his actions but not by the way he is. In other words, anyone stronger and against Sasuke can become a messiah by default in Kishi's world. How Naruto disappoints me....he is just there standing there saying nothing to all the kitten Sasuke is putting him and his comrades through. Just because Naruto is forgivable, it doesn't mean that he should be unfeeling or indifferent to the terrible things Sasuke is doing. A messiah should feel angry to all the horrible things being done to the people and then after the fight or the apologies, there will be forgiveness. But nooooooo, as long as it's Sasuke, Naruto doesn't get angry. He just says,"Hey, that's a bit too much!" as if Sasuke just stole soup from Naruto's ramen bowl. The reason I hate this NaruSasu bromance so much is because it degrades Naruto's character so much. He's capable of being angry towards Pein or Deidara, but when it's Sasuke.....sigh......he just becomes a love sick puppy.

And yes, the way Naruto acted towards Sasuke after Sasuke stabbed Sakura was not surprising. Sakura is basically like a silver medal to Naruto. She comes AFTER Sasuke. Never before. If the girl you're in love with, no matter whether she's in love with someone else, was stabbed painfully albeit it not being real you become angry. End of story. But no, Naruto probably lacks the ability to love or become protective when the offender is Sasuke. In the end, Naruto should stick with Sasuke and they should live happily ever after without involving other people in their drama.

And Sakura...I'm not disappointed about her being in love with Sasuke because I don't like her for NaruSaku. But I'm really disappointed that Kishi regressed her character. She's the member of team seven and she doesn't go against Sasuke through ideologies or battle power. She just screams about love in the middle of the battle. Where the hell did her development go? Didn't she learn in part one that she was basically powerless to protect her teammates? It was because of that, that she seeked tutelage from Tsunade. And now near the end of the manga.....she did the exact same thing AGAIN when she swore time and again that this time she'll stand side to side with Naruto and Sasuke. She is like the boy who cries wolf. After being promising development for the umpteenth time with no result, you just give up.

And the comment Kishi made Sasuke say makes it more worse because it's true and it makes me wonder why Kishi is unnecessarily putting Sakura down miserably at the end of the manga where there is no more chance for her to stand up and prove him wrong. Sakura was trolled even more harshly than Hinata when she tripped on a Rock.

There is so much more I want to say. But this manga and the characters are so bad that words aren't enough to explain it. I quit. And if anyone wants to PM me, feel free to do so. I'll reply.

And btw, 六道仙人 is right. It's present tense according to the link Hiraishin posted.

Edited by zacrathedemon5, 26 September 2014 - 01:41 AM.

[Branden]

 

Well not today that's for sure.
Maybe in a couple of days or more.

 

 

 

The commotion is because Mangastream version is a lot different than mangapanda version. Also, some people are unhappy of Kishi's way to treat Sakura as a character.

I just read through Mangastream's version and I don't see how it's any different from Mangapanda. They both have the same meaning.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

This is what I'm describing Kishi
https://m.youtube.co...h?v=ITEyp1yPGTc

[Lilac]

All of this Sakura bashing in every forum I visited makes me sad...

 

Very. I'm a Sakura fan first and a NS shipper second. If she chooses to not be with Naruto, then that's her choice. Naruto doesn't 'deserve' her just for loving her, just like Hinata doesn't 'deserve' Naruto for loving him, etc. I think a lot of people were convinced Sakura was over her Sasuke thing, but looking back it was kind of obvious she wasn't...(Thinking of him in the tent, worrying about if he cares about her, not noticing Naruto wasn't around when Sasuke landed, and so on) Love is...complicated. It's not like a switch you can turn off and on. Really, it's Kishi's writing that has her still in love with Sasuke. I'm not going to hate her for what Kishi thinks is a good idea, lol.

 

I'm pretty convinced NS becomes canon in the movie anyway, with that line Naruto has.