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#1321 Gojira

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 05:47 PM

I have to disagree as well. Sakura's feelings are very vague at this point, and there hasn't been a definitive 'I don't care for Sasuke' anymore moment. Kakashi's words could be read in more than one way, which is frustrating. Then there's also the Iwa shinobi scene, where when told 'The guy you like must be a great person', the person she thinks about is Sasuke, not Naruto. If she was over Sasuke at this point, why would she think of him? It doesn't help matters that she was still upset that Sasuke didn't care that she was injured fighting Madara. Kishi really needs to make a concrete stance on Sakura's feelings. :sweat:


It really isnt up for interpretation at all, no more than Sai confessing to Sakura for Naruto is up for interpretation it was pretty direct. "You like him as a friend and want to save him from darkness because he's someone you used to love"

The only people who say otherwise are people from NF who're attempting damage control.

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 07:06 PM

Kishimoto wants to resolve it at the end. We have to accept this.

That shows how is done poorly and it's not going to have a logical conclusion.
 

It is special when a twelve year boy promises on his life. Yes, he grew up and matured and found other reasons to save Sasuke but it doesn't negate what his intentions were when he promised , making Sakura smile even though it hurts him.

"grew up and matured" do you realize it was a matter of 10 chapters and since the begining he already had his own reasons to bring Sasuke back regardless of the POAL.
It holds no special meaning to him .

Speaking of a event that Naruto did specifically for Sakura, what about the time he rescued her from Gaara? As Sasuke himself put it later, "Naruto fought tooth and nail to protect you,Sakura. He displayed a kind of strength that he had never shown before".

Despite on the same battle he wanted to save Gaara because of his own reasons and seemed Gaara as an equal, meanwhile Sakura was uncounciouss and after she awoke she thanked Sasuke and in turn Sasuke said that it was Naruto her suposedly interaction with Naruto was avoided.
 

How is Naruto realizing why he likes Sakura in chapter 3 a joke?

did i said that?
I said explicitely exclusing the foundation part that showed he come to love Sakura but the foundations arent strong either.

Why do you want them to support each other while making declarations? It doesn't reduce the value of their support if they don't make declarations. Even then,  you can consider the Chuunin exams where their support for each other was vocal and important.

Because of Drama that exists in romantic situations, how can be taken a serious approach when most of the moments are somewhat one-sided without the other part witnessing those actions or are joke moments and holds no mutual interactions if you have noticed pratically all Sakura so called "NS"moments Naruto is either not on the scene or uncounciouss.

About the chuunin exams, you mean cheering a comrade.
 

Naruto asking Sakura out was not a Joke. He didn't have the money or else they would have dated.
I suggest you see Naruto's expression when he's being impressed by Sakura. There is more in his expression.

The moment is turned on a joke and Sakura didnt took it seriously it was a tease and it surprises me how she didnt noticed Naruto loved her despite those moments.
It just shows she didnt took it seriously.
 

Did you miss the Bridge scene and the CPR then?

Naruto uncounciouss i dont know if you're really understanding what i'm saying here, i'm talking about mutual moments and Naruto's perspective.

And the CPR, dont tell me it was somewhat a "STRONG ROMANTIC MOMENT" her thoughts towards the whole CPR things was purely platonic, Naruto was dying and she was thinking about his hokage dream that he barely touched upon when he kept saying how he wants to save Sasuke.
 

So what? He said they were getting closer and he was glad. And it was followed up by the feeding scene which is not a joke btw.

No he dodged the moment, Sakura was worried about him and he changed the topic to talk about Sasuke like he always does.
His life should not resolve around it, every turn down moment he has is connected to Sasuke even when he was training for the rasenshuriken he wanted to be strong for Sasuke while ignoring Akatsuki chasing him down.
 

Because Shikamaru had lost his mentor and giving him that role made more sense. And Tsunade asked Sakura to leave Naruto alone.

Then why the hell Hinata give that speech to Naruto on 615 when she pratically had no development, and had lost anyone.
 

I assume you are talking about part 1? Why would there be romantic tones there? Sakura loved Sasuke then! And there was bonding there. Seeing Naruto in that state made Sakura more determined to get stronger and help him. She was grateful.

No part 2.
 

Just before this, Sakura had told Naruto she loved him and left Naruto confused. Sai had then explained she did it with Naruto's feelings in her mind. So there wasn't anything to talk about later. It ended with a scene of Naruto seemingly losing his burden and sleeping peacefully and Sakura giving him the special smile she reserves only for Naruto. It ended on a high. Not to mention there was a parallel thrown in there as well.

Anything to talk about later on?
She already knew about his feelings, barely dying on realiving his burden, and that she was feeling like a trash for that.
Really there's no logic for Naruto telling Sakura that she wasnt a burden to him.
 

See the hospital scene and PoAL where Naruto looked heartbroken. That's dead serious. And there was no poker face from Naruto when he claimed Sakura was more or less his girlfriend. He had a serious look.

If he was serious when he claimed she was more or less his gf when the topic died as soon Sakura punched him and Sakura ignored that.
It was used more as a device to hide Sakura's answer and confirm a parallel.
 

Naruto is not a satellite character.  He is no Hinata. He has things to worry about other than his love for Sakura. And if its stated once he loves her, its enough. He does not need to keep saying it every chapter! His actions and body language towards Sakura make it obvious.

"He has things to worry about other thna love, he's not a satellite character"
last time i checked he passed the entire part 2 chasing Sasuke, his trained to catch up Sasuke, ignored the treat of Akatsuki 3 times to chase Sasuke and only fought against them twice because he was called to do that, he didnt fought the first fight, and the second he won with a jutsu he was training just because of Sasuke.
How Naruto the main character has his feelings for Sakura barely touched upon and developed.
he basically love Sakura since chapter 3 and deal with it there's nothing to explain.
The difference between his love for Sakura and SS is that Sakura is not like Sasuke.
 

He was surprised when she hugged him as he thought she would never be that intimate with him ever. 
Sakura is not cast aside with his friends in terms of importance. She is the girl he loves and is special to him.

HE's always surprised but doesnt return back.
He doesnt hug Sakura back.
Special in waht aspect.
I remember Itachi saying "thanks to Kushina and his friends he was made hokage".
Then Naruto thinks about his friends and no special place for Sakura, when he says he has plenty of friends and no special place for Sakura.
Where she does fit?
You can easily compare NS interactions and ObiRin and i would firmly say most of ObiRin ones are greatly superior to NS.
Because Rin directly inspired Obito to achieve his dreams and goals.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 27 July 2014 - 07:12 PM.

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 08:59 PM

Alright H&E members :D with a score from 1 to 10 in each of the following would you say has the most chance of happening in chapter 687......

-Sasuke activating Susanno to protect everybody from kaguya's continuous attacks

-Obito staying alive long enough to give each member of team 7 last words

-chance of Obito bringing up an Obirin parallel for NS

-Obito seeing the ghost of Rin before turning to ashes

-Obito Transfering his eye abilities over to Kakashi before he dies (same way itachi did for Sasuke)

-Kakashi Face Reveal

That's all I can think of that might happen in the next chapter and if anyone has anymore ideas to add feel free to do so and have fun!!!! :fu: lol

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 09:06 PM

http://naruto-movie.com/

Page is up.
Can someone fluent in Japanese tell us whether there is any new info ?

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 09:11 PM

http://naruto-movie.com/

Page is up.
Can someone fluent in Japanese tell us whether there is any new info ?

Still 11 hours left for the trailer release.


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Posted 27 July 2014 - 09:19 PM

It really isnt up for interpretation at all, no more than Sai confessing to Sakura for Naruto is up for interpretation it was pretty direct. "You like him as a friend and want to save him from darkness because he's someone you used to love"

The only people who say otherwise are people from NF who're attempting damage control.

 

It's not direct. It's in third person, and the wording can be taken more than one way-that's why there's a ton of different translations for that one scene. My point is, it's not from Sakura's pov and is not absolute. That's why it's frustrating. You're free to stick with the translation you like, that's what most other people are doing, but I want something from Sakura's actual view. :sweat:



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Posted 27 July 2014 - 09:19 PM

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By making naruto love sakura earlier in part one, he practically cut naruto romantic developement in half.
I always say this, so:
- naruto develope to the max in part one, take hiatus in part two.
- sakura develope to the max in part two, in part one it's more to ss.
- sakura never get in dangerous situation, since naruto vs gaara.

In guilty crown and Sao, the hero doesn't know or love the heroine right away right? So two way developement.

And obirin only recently get a touch.

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:02 PM

@darkrest
By making naruto love sakura earlier in part one, he practically cut naruto romantic developement in half.
I always say this, so:
- naruto develope to the max in part one, take hiatus in part two.

There's no develop to the max he already starts in love with Sakura that's the lacking aspect.
 

- sakura never get in dangerous situation, since naruto vs gaara.

It inst about dangerous situations but also parts where Naruto doubts himself, she's not there is always someome else who does the job.
 

In guilty crown and Sao, the hero doesn't know or love the heroine right away right? So two way developement.

Because they have touching development different than NS, despite SAO romance is not good anyway.
In guilty crown the hero falls in love with the heroine on the moment they've met each other on a scene she's singing, they go thought a touching development of supporting each other and helping him, and reaching the max when he's betrayed by some of his friends.
 

And obirin only recently get a touch.

And even only recently their interactions were superior to NS, Obito had real foundations to love Rin and Rin also does with Obito, Rin didnt loved Obito but what matter is that Rin was important when it comes to helping on his dreams and his shinobi path while with NS is not like this, Naruto's part is shared with all his friends with Sakura having a minor role, his bond with Sakura is pratically the same he has with all the k11 despite Sakura's bond with Naruto bigger than Naruto's counterpart.

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:25 PM

I wouldn't take other mangas as proof for any pairing, actually. Sasuke gets his name from Sarutobi Sasuke, and that character's female companion was named Sakura. Doesn't mean SS would ever have a chance at becoming canon. :chuckle:



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Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:36 PM

It really isnt up for interpretation at all, no more than Sai confessing to Sakura for Naruto is up for interpretation it was pretty direct. "You like him as a friend and want to save him from darkness because he's someone you used to love"

The only people who say otherwise are people from NF who're attempting damage control.

I don't get SS fans who subscribe to Kakashi's words, but have ignored Yamato's for years.

 

What Kakashi said was very blunt, basically what you said. Yamato's words are up to interpretation. if we were supposed to look at it as a platonic advise though, it wouldn't be up to interpretation, he would've been as blunt as Kakashi, and he wouldn't have been interrupted. It's a classic writing technique.

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This is Sakura's reaction to what he says, and it looks like she is realizing something. Yamato wasn't talking about her platonic feelings for Naruto because Sakura already knows they're great friends, and Yamato too. "Sakura, the truth is you are a very good friend!!" doesn't sit right with me, because why would Kishi interrupt that? Her wasn't talking about her insecurities either, Sakura doesn't realize she's useful here. If that was the case, the words aren't right, and the moment would've been more like Kakashi's.

 

I smell hypocrisy. :pinch:


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Posted 27 July 2014 - 11:28 PM

I cannot b applied since theorically Hinata and Sakura are on equal footing, in terms of allegiance and etc...
SS is a different case because she claimed she moved on because Sasuke is evil, that's a silver medal for Naruto, she didnt realized she loves him but rather he's a better choice and that makes no sense since love inst about choices.

But that's your own opinion, not really what it is. "Theoretically" doesn't mean "fact" and you are making a lot of assumptions that you have no idea whether they are true or not. As you keep telling me all the time "that is your interpretation." What do you base this all on, 540? You could very well be wrong.

Love isn't a choice? EVERYTHING is a choice. You choose to do things that make you happy. You choose to go down one path and not another like how Sakura chose not to follow Sasuke when he left despite claiming she would. She chose to stick by Naruto's side instead of just going with Sasuke. You act like none of these characters have freewill and are all puppets in this world. Well then I guess good and bad are moot since apparently no one has made any choices what so ever.

You mean to tell me that a girl in an abusive relationship has no choice, but to stay with the guy that treats her like crap? That she has no choice, but to stay and pretend she is happy? We are talking about teenagers here, remember? I am sure you have experienced a similar situation. I have. I have actually been in Sakura's position once and it took everything I had to break away from the one that made me miserable because I kept lying to myself that everything was okay. Lying to myself that I was in love when in truth I wasn't.

If Sakura isn't happy with Sasuke, then I guess it is not real love then. Since it is not real love, then it just blows your entire proposition out of the water.

You and Nate talk about responsibility and people being held accountable for their choices and actions....yet here you make it seem like nobody has choices to begin with and we are all just influential....except for Sasuke. Why do you have such a liking to Sasuke and making it seem like he is the only one with choices, intelligence, and freewill? It is not just with this post, but all the posts I see you make have some sort of compliment saying how Sasuke is such a great tactician or his actions are justified in what they do yet the next moment I see how you berate another character who is pretty much the same way from a different perspective. I mean, I might even say you are a Sasuke fanboy with the way you post sometimes.

Besides, I am talking about Naruto here...not Sakura. You are comparing Sakura to Hinata, but I am comparing Naruto to Sakura here using the same idea that you and many like you are proclaiming. NH is just like SS in that retrospect where you have Naruto claim he is in love with another. If he were to say "I got over it," go to Hinata, but still retain those past feelings....then it would be no different. Hinata would be that silver medal because apparently "no other girl loves him" so he has to settle for it. He didn't make the choice, the choice made him.

Now it has gotten even sadder when the NS fans are starting to forget Naruto as well.


Edited by James S Cassidy, 28 July 2014 - 03:14 AM.

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 11:48 PM

That shows how is done poorly and it's not going to have a logical conclusion.
 
"grew up and matured" do you realize it was a matter of 10 chapters and since the begining he already had his own reasons to bring Sasuke back regardless of the POAL.
It holds no special meaning to him .
Despite on the same battle he wanted to save Gaara because of his own reasons and seemed Gaara as an equal, meanwhile Sakura was uncounciouss and after she awoke she thanked Sasuke and in turn Sasuke said that it was Naruto her suposedly interaction with Naruto was avoided.
 
did i said that?
I said explicitely exclusing the foundation part that showed he come to love Sakura but the foundations arent strong either.
Because of Drama that exists in romantic situations, how can be taken a serious approach when most of the moments are somewhat one-sided without the other part witnessing those actions or are joke moments and holds no mutual interactions if you have noticed pratically all Sakura so called "NS"moments Naruto is either not on the scene or uncounciouss.

About the chuunin exams, you mean cheering a comrade.
 
The moment is turned on a joke and Sakura didnt took it seriously it was a tease and it surprises me how she didnt noticed Naruto loved her despite those moments.
It just shows she didnt took it seriously.
 
Naruto uncounciouss i dont know if you're really understanding what i'm saying here, i'm talking about mutual moments and Naruto's perspective.

And the CPR, dont tell me it was somewhat a "STRONG ROMANTIC MOMENT" her thoughts towards the whole CPR things was purely platonic, Naruto was dying and she was thinking about his hokage dream that he barely touched upon when he kept saying how he wants to save Sasuke.
 
No he dodged the moment, Sakura was worried about him and he changed the topic to talk about Sasuke like he always does.
His life should not resolve around it, every turn down moment he has is connected to Sasuke even when he was training for the rasenshuriken he wanted to be strong for Sasuke while ignoring Akatsuki chasing him down.
 
Then why the hell Hinata give that speech to Naruto on 615 when she pratically had no development, and had lost anyone.
 
No part 2.
 
Anything to talk about later on?
She already knew about his feelings, barely dying on realiving his burden, and that she was feeling like a trash for that.
Really there's no logic for Naruto telling Sakura that she wasnt a burden to him.
 
If he was serious when he claimed she was more or less his gf when the topic died as soon Sakura punched him and Sakura ignored that.
It was used more as a device to hide Sakura's answer and confirm a parallel.
 
"He has things to worry about other thna love, he's not a satellite character"
last time i checked he passed the entire part 2 chasing Sasuke, his trained to catch up Sasuke, ignored the treat of Akatsuki 3 times to chase Sasuke and only fought against them twice because he was called to do that, he didnt fought the first fight, and the second he won with a jutsu he was training just because of Sasuke.
How Naruto the main character has his feelings for Sakura barely touched upon and developed.
he basically love Sakura since chapter 3 and deal with it there's nothing to explain.
The difference between his love for Sakura and SS is that Sakura is not like Sasuke.
 
HE's always surprised but doesnt return back.
He doesnt hug Sakura back.
Special in waht aspect.
I remember Itachi saying "thanks to Kushina and his friends he was made hokage".
Then Naruto thinks about his friends and no special place for Sakura, when he says he has plenty of friends and no special place for Sakura.
Where she does fit?
You can easily compare NS interactions and ObiRin and i would firmly say most of ObiRin ones are greatly superior to NS.
Because Rin directly inspired Obito to achieve his dreams and goals.

i think we all agree that it could have been done  better. but its not that bad as u make it.and its better to wait to see how kishi end it and then we judge.

 

its true that naruto wanted to bring sasuke cause he was his friend.  . but after sakura asked him and he saw how much she cares for him at that time. . it became  his 2nd main reason to save sasuke  so that sakura can be happy . even though it hurts him like hell.  (and that showed us that narutos love for sakura is greater than her love for sasuke since that time..)        and naruto held that promise for 3 years . .how it has no special meaning for him? and when naruto told sakura that it wasnt about the promise. he closed his eyes ( he did the same thing when he made the promise .it means he hide something) (and here naruto closed his eyes cause he still want to keep the POAL cause he thinks sakura still love sasuke even thou she is telling him leave the promise i dont care about sasuke anymore. .(but that might have changed his thoughts about the promise  after what sai told him).

 

 

if sakura didnt see naruto saving her from gara .that doesnt mean that when she finds  out he saved her .she wont see him in different way and more respect .that was the main thing of all narutos moment towards sakura in part1 .to change her mind about him and to respect him more thats it. and part 2 will  do the romantic development for sakura .. or at least that is how i saw it.

 

 

and about cheering a comrade? tell that to naruto. is it the same thing to him when ten ten(his friend) cheers him .and sakura(his love interest and his friend at the same time) cheers him.?. as i said these moments to show that sakura is changing her  view on naruto. from not to care about him at all to cheer him .

 

please correct me if i was wrong. but here i understood that u r saying  that naruto  should have told sakura that she was a burden to him? . are u talking about the POAL. if u r . then sakura isnt burden on naruto at all . naruto did the POAL cause he wanted to .cause he loves her. not because he had to its not   mission. ...  he was hurt , but also happy that she trusts him .and if u meant something ealse. then ignore my answer. :D .

 

lol. .even thou. i like how naruto is trying hard to save his lost friend but i have to agree that kishi could have done better with akatsuki and other things as well . .and chapter 3 was the stage were naruto liked skaura more .. its better to say he loves sakura since garas fight .than to say he (loves her)since chapter 3.  .cause here chapter 3 would be one of the reasons led him to love sakura . .and it make more sense. and the different between his love and ss. is sakura is different than sasuke + naruto liked sakura more cause he actually know the real her. but sakura crush on sasuke because she thought he was cool and perfect. u can say it is      deep vs shallow . 

 

naruto didnt return sakuras hugs .the first 1 because he didnt see that coming at all . he wishes it but not so soon .(as he thinks). but he liked that for sure.. and the second .do u want him to hug her and tell her that ok lets forget about sasuke . that is all what i was waiting for my whole life. i d love to be your silver medal sakura chan ..lol. thats so not naruto to me .

 

we know sakura want naruto to be hokage as it her own dream . now this the same as rin . and kishi can make naruto know this when she support/ stand by his side in the sasuke vs naruto hokage battle next . and there u go . u will have a moment like the obirin.

 

i could be wrong but thats my view on things for the time.

 

BTW your sig. made my day .lol  :lol:


Edited by only Naruto, 27 July 2014 - 11:58 PM.


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Posted 27 July 2014 - 11:55 PM

Love isn't a choice? EVERYTHING is a choice. You choose to do things that make you happy. You choose to go down one path and not another like how Sakura chose not to follow Sasuke when he left despite claiming she would. She chose to stick by Naruto's side instead of just going with Sasuke at all. You act none of these characters have freewill and are all puppets in this world. When then I guess good and bad are moot since apparently no one has made any choices what so ever.

You mean to tell me that a girl in am abusive relationship has no choice, but to stay with the guy that treats her like crap? That she has no choice, but to stay and pretend she is happy? We are talking about teenagers here, remember? I am sure you have experienced a similar situation. I have. I have actually been in Sakura's position once and it took everything I had to break away from the one that made me miserable because I kept lying to myself that everything was okay.

Take Karin as an example, she still loved Sasuke despite the betrayal but she could chose to not want to be at his side.
It's different than chossing to be with another guy because the one you still loves is an evil guy.
Love is not about choices but you can chose to not be pathetic.
 

If Sakura isn't happy with Sasuke, then I guess it is not real love then. Since it is not real love, then it just blows your entire proposition out of the water.

I can easily point out guilty crown where the main character at some point was a tyrant and made his comrades struggle during the survival arc but she was still at his side.
I can even point out Accel World but that's already unrealistic.
 

You and Nate talk about responsibility and people being held accountable for their choices and actions....yet here you make it seems like nobody has choices to begin with and we are all just influential....except for Sasuke. Why do you have such a liking to Sasuke and making it seem like he is the only one with choices, intelligence, and freewill? It is not just with this post, but all the posts I see you make have some sort of compliment saying how Sasuke is such a great tactician or his actions are justified in what they do yet the next moment I see how you berate another character who is pretty much the same way from a different perspective. I mean, I might even say you are a Sasuke fanboy with the way you post sometimes.

"liking to Sasuke"
Just because i'm not being angry at him every time he farts doesnt mean i like him, he's a good character at some point just the fact that what ruined his character was the focus on him on the story, he being the main objective of the MC and him being the last villain.
 

Besides, I am talking about Naruto here...not Sakura. You are comparing Sakura to Hinata, but I am comparing Naruto to Sakura here using the same idea that you and many like you are proclaiming. NH is just like SS in that retrospect where you have Naruto claim he is in love with another. If he were to say "I got over it," go to Hinata, but still retain those past feelings....then it would be no different. Hinata would be that silver medal because apparently "no other girl loves him" so he has to settle for it. He didn't make the choice, the choice made him.

Where do I compared Sakura to Hinata?
I talked about Naruto and my points are firmly standing there, there not much focus on his side on the romance subplot, his feelings doesnt have a serious approach and the fact his love for Sakura doesnt have a special emphasizement and worse the fact it's casted alongside his other friends and is not strong as his bond with Sasuke.
The only part i talked about Hinata was a reply about the fact an user said "Shikamaru was the one to cheer Naruto up because he lose the teacher" then i replied saying Hinata didnt even had developmetn and did a speech anyway.
 

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This is Sakura's reaction to what he says, and it looks like she is realizing something. Yamato wasn't talking about her platonic feelings for Naruto because Sakura already knows they're great friends, and Yamato too. "Sakura, the truth is you are a very good friend!!" doesn't sit right with me, because why would Kishi interrupt that? Her wasn't talking about her insecurities either, Sakura doesn't realize she's useful here. If that was the case, the words aren't right, and the moment would've been more like Kakashi's.
 
I smell hypocrisy. :pinch:

Those two scenes are complicated to me.
Yamato's specially, it's cut obviously but are you going ot base off that she loves Naruto romantically because she cares about him, moreover on a manga that love as different kinds of meaning.
I felt the whole moments as a tease that Sakura may hold romantic feelings for Naruto at that moment but i dont think it's a proof that she loves him that way.
It's a tease, much similr to when Naruto was crying after he asked how Hinata was during the Pain arc.

About Kakashi's speech, his flashback was about the introduction moment, at that time Sakura's love for Sasuke was selfish and that changed during her confession to Sasuke and changed once again on the summit.
If the nature it's still romantic or not, i could not care less but i feel that the panel Kishimoto picked was a bad one makes no sense up there.

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 12:09 AM

Hinata's speech in 615 was like her reassurance of Naruto's doubts before his fight with Neji in chapter 98. Technically it didn't come out of nowhere, because she's done it before. I wouldn't say it detracts from NS, it's just a full circle scene. Naruto did the same for her earlier, when he said she needed to stop worrying because she was 'strong'.  I don't see it as romantic at all, at least from Naruto's end.

 

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Yeah, that scene bugs me because you later see Yamato making a shocked face during Sakura's confession, and then proceeds to say 'What the hell are you-" which, if he knew Sakura loved Naruto, why would he act like that? Kishi keeps throwing up hints and then countering them, it's frustrating. I guess he just likes making the shipping in Naruto a labyrinth. :cry:


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Posted 28 July 2014 - 12:30 AM

Hinata's speech in 615 was like her reassurance of Naruto's doubts before his fight with Neji in chapter 98. Technically it didn't come out of nowhere, because she's done it before. I wouldn't say it detracts from NS, it's just a full circle scene. Naruto did the same for her earlier, when he said she needed to stop worrying because she was 'strong'.  I don't see it as romantic at all, at least from Naruto's end.
 
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Yeah, that scene bugs me because you later see Yamato making a shocked face during Sakura's confession, and then proceeds to say 'What the hell are you-" which, if he knew Sakura loved Naruto, why would he act like that? Kishi keeps throwing up hints and then countering them, it's frustrating. I guess he just likes making the shipping in Naruto a labyrinth. :cry:

I think that's because nobody expected her to confess like that or confess at that moment. How do you just randomly confess to somebody like that?

 

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Why do you always seem to be negative about things. I have been going to this site since like jan. and you always seem to think and say everything in a negative way. 


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Posted 28 July 2014 - 01:21 AM

I think that's because nobody expected her to confess like that or confess at that moment. How do you just randomly confess to somebody like that?

Not just that but also the fact that everyone doubted Sakura's actions they all knew she was hiding something  the situation was very odd for a confession and that was not what she originally intended to do plus how the kitten isn't it odd when she came from Konoha to LOI just to do that and coming with bodyguards ? How is this not odd ? Only by this one would assume that there is a hiding agenda behind this and this why all of them were WTF is going on  what's the purpose of this ?  That is why Yamato and all of them reacted not bc they don't believe that she loves him , this in no way diminished Yamato's words in KN4 it has no connection with that scene whatsoever .

 

Also people should really learn what Authorial Interruption & Intent is you don't hide the girl feelings for a boy in that way if its only platonic its a writing technique  .


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Posted 28 July 2014 - 01:29 AM

Not just that but also the fact that everyone doubted Sakura's actions they all knew she was hiding something  the situation was very odd for a confession and that was not what she originally intended to do plus how the kitten isn't it odd when she came from Konoha to LOI just to do that and coming with bodyguards ? How is this not odd ? Only by this one would assume that there is a hiding agenda behind this and this why all of them were WTF is going on  what's the purpose of this ?  That is why Yamato and all of them reacted not bc they don't believe that she loves him , this in no way diminished Yamato's words in KN4 it has no connection with that scene whatsoever .
 
Also people should really learn what Authorial Interruption & Intent is you don't hide the girl feelings for a boy in that way if its only platonic its a writing technique  .


Part of the problem is that we didn't have any scene of Sakura about her feelings for Naruto (because Kishi wanted to keep it a secret and idk I guess he really liked the diea of the shock value of her confession)

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 01:33 AM

I think the reason Yamato acted that way during the land of iron because he wasn't expecting Sakura to confess. I believe everyone was expecting Sakura to tell Naruto the truth that Sasuke was a dangerous and the rookies were planning to hunt him down. Yamato's reaction was perfectly nornal, just like that she tells Naruto she loves (its pretty obvious she chose the worst time and place to make a love confession). Also he figured out Sakura wasn't planning in telling Naruto about Sasuke. However, just because Sakura chose a bad to confess it DOESN'T make her confession a lie.


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Posted 28 July 2014 - 01:36 AM

Why did she confess exactly? that's still somerthing I haven't quite figured out yet.

I get that Sai said she chose Naruto over Sasuke to free him from the POAL but going out of her way to find him confess and then leave doesn't really make alot of sense. Did she know she probably was going to die and wanted to let Naruto know how she feels?

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 01:40 AM

Why did she confess exactly? that's still somerthing I haven't quite figured out yet.

I get that Sai said she chose Naruto over Sasuke to free him from the POAL but going out of her way to find him confess and then leave doesn't really make alot of sense. Did she know she probably was going to die and wanted to let Naruto know how she feels?

 

? She confessed because she thought it would end Naruto's obsession with Sasuke. Sai told her Naruto loved her and that she caused him pain (the promise) She told Naruto what she thought he wanted to hear. I have more faith that her honest confession will be better :P






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