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[luffyq1]

In a way, Naruto cares a lot about Obito since he can relate to him in many many many ways! And most importantly he understands what went wrong with Obito and who the real Obito is! So yeah, his parting will have an effect on Naruto. His parting words will have a major influence on him! But Obito ain't dying before He tells the truth about Rin to Kakashi and Minato and When Minato arrives!

Ugh.

[FireFox]

I dont think Obito ever regretted that, it was mostly the fact he could not had saved her/protected her.
 
He can do it without confession to her like Minato did.

The fact that Sai told Sakura that Naruto loves her took out all the impact of a confession to Naruto, the job was mostly done and Sakura only needs to move on with Naruto not having the necessity to confess.
 
They aren't but if Naruto want to confess when he believes she loves Sasuke like he did thoughout the story is because he just wants to take it off his chest and move on.
Jiraiya never confessed to Tsunade either but he was rejected several times.

Of course that he regretted that he couldn't save her bc he loves her  but do you really meant to tell me that Obito who loved Rin so much and wanted to confess to her so many times but in the end wasn't able to  has no regrets about that ? That seem so cold to me Sorry but that makes no sense to me any person would have regrets about this kind of matter .  

 

EDIT : BTW I think this proves me right about Obito regretting about not telling Rin he loves her  http://narutobase.ne...ga/Naruto/244/9

 

What Minato did is kind of an confession and you do realize that it shown like that and only that bc MK is created after NS only with very much less development bc NS is the main paring  

 

Not really the impact isn't lost at all Sakura also feels unworthy of Naruto's love for her this is were his confession comes imo. 

 

Naruto believed that until Sakura's confession in LOI since then its a different playground . Right now Sakura needs to convince Naruto that she loves him through her actions  if Naruto is to believe her and if NS is about to go canon otherwise its LOI again .  And still I don't see any sense of that bc NS is foreshadowed to go canon  what you said with your example is that Naruto confess but Sakura rejects him sorry don't see that happening  at all .

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 19 July 2014 - 06:43 PM.

[narusaku256]

Ugh.

Eh?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Eh? I think since according to this theory, he is supposed to have merged/modified Karin's DNA with Kushina's. A relation is not necessary, right?
Uhmm...I think...it is Kushina's own ability since she said that she could do it because she was a jinchuuriki?

Hm, that's a neat theory. It is odd that Orochimaru remark on Kushina only and waited for so long. Maybe we shall wait a while.

[luffyq1]

Eh?

Naruto's sympathy for Obito feels forced considering all the shi* he's done. 

[ns.Believe.It]

In a way, Naruto cares a lot about Obito since he can relate to him in many many many ways! And most importantly he understands what went wrong with Obito and who the real Obito is! So yeah, his parting will have an effect on Naruto. His parting words will have a major influence on him! But Obito ain't dying before He tells the truth about Rin to Kakashi and Minato and When Minato arrives!

I really really hope this is not the case. Everything bad that happened with Naruto is due to Obito. Okay, you might ague he was being manipulated BUT that doesn't mean Naruto should forgive him and let that effect him when Obito dies. 

Edited by ns.Believe.It, 19 July 2014 - 06:20 PM.

[narusaku256]

Hm, that's a neat theory. It is odd that Orochimaru remark on Kushina only and waited for so long. Maybe we shall wait a while.

More like, to see what were the fruits of his experiments? Not to mention that Karin is an experiment LIKE Yamato, who was infused with Hashirama's DNA and that's how he got Mokuton! So Karin getting chakra chains of Kushina due to her having Kushina's DNA in her is not that far or impossible, right? Infact she could have Mito's DNA as well! Sasuke did call her 'The strongest kunoichi'. I don't think it was for nothing. What's your take on this theory, 4Life?

[luffyq1]

I really really hope this is not the case. Everything bad that happened with Naruto is due to Obito. Okay, you might ague he was being manipulated BUT that doesn't mean Naruto should forgive him and let that effect him when Obito dies. 

No one is to blame in this series. Makes things a lot easier for the simple minded protagonist to deal with. 

[narusaku256]

I really really hope this is not the case. Everything bad that happened with Naruto is due to Obito. Okay, you might ague he was being manipulated BUT that doesn't mean Naruto should forgive him and let that effect him when Obito dies. 

Yeah, I get what you mean to say. That was the obstacle I felt as well! But if Naruto can forgive Nagato who killed the person who was closest to him and he loved him with all his heart, Obito should not be that big of a problem! I am not saying that it should affect Naruto and he should brood over him and such, but something like...you remember Naruto's reaction when the reanimated Nagato gave his parting words to him? Something like "Surpass all the hokages and create peace which our master so desired. Call it irony of fate that the first book that our sensei wrote was based on him which was a total hit. The second volume was based on me which became a flop. Now call it the work of god that the third volume was based on you. Become a volume which outclasses the previous ones and overshadows the failure of the second version. These are my parting words to you with us being sibling disciples". The speech was something like this and another legacy was passed down to Naruto. Something like that, is what I am trying to say . Not the usual brooding and moaning stuff, you know?

[narusaku256]

Naruto's sympathy for Obito feels forced considering all the shi* he's done. 

Atleast for me, it does not seem this way....but hey...that's just me

[ns.Believe.It]

Oh man. I won't be able to handle.

 

I know right :'(. Jiraiya's parting words were themselves very hard to handle! Man! He was a legendary character!

 

Oh that well yeah that will come most definitely there is no mistake about that imo . But still I'm more excited about Minato's parting if its anything like in the Pain arc and Kushina's flashback then Oh Dear God .  

Nothing beats Kushina and Minato's parting words to Naruto when they got stabbed by Kyuubi and Naruto's goodbye to them when he leaves the AU world, both scenes in RtN. Those were emotionally very intense.

[narusaku256]

 
 
Nothing beats Kushina and Minato's parting words to Naruto when they got stabbed by Kyuubi and Naruto's goodbye to them when he leaves the AU world, both scenes in RtN. Those were emotionally very intense.

Yep . Jiraiya's words were touching as well! But yeah, Kushina's words were more touching!

[TouKen4Life3g]

To each of their own, guys.

More like, to see what were the fruits of his experiments? Not to mention that Karin is an experiment LIKE Yamato, who was infused with Hashirama's DNA and that's how he got Mokuton! So Karin getting chakra chains of Kushina due to her having Kushina's DNA in her is not that far or impossible, right? Infact she could have Mito's DNA as well! Sasuke did call her 'The strongest kunoichi'. I don't think it was for nothing. What's your take on this theory, 4Life?

Not a bad one. Just remember that Karin is a genuine Uzumaki, so maybe Orochimaru helped with special tech. Though maybe it's all genuine. We'll see.

[narusaku256]

To each of their own, guys.


Not a bad one. Just remember that Karin is a genuine Uzumaki, so maybe Orochimaru helped with special tech. Though maybe it's all genuine. We'll see.

Yep . We'll wait to see...how things turn up

[luffyq1]

Yep . Jiraiya's words were touching as well! But yeah, Kushina's words were more touching!

Jiraiya tops for me. 

[narusaku256]

Jiraiya tops for me. 

I just wish he was here to witness, how far his student...no his godson(does this word even exist?) has come! :(

Edited by narusaku256, 19 July 2014 - 06:38 PM.

[ns.Believe.It]

Yeah, I get what you mean to say. That was the obstacle I felt as well! But if Naruto can forgive Nagato who killed the person who was closest to him and he loved him with all his heart, Obito should not be that big of a problem! I am not saying that it should affect Naruto and he should brood over him and such, but something like...you remember Naruto's reaction when the reanimated Nagato gave his parting words to him? Something like "Surpass all the hokages and create peace which our master so desired. Call it irony of fate that the first book that our sensei wrote was based on him which was a total hit. The second volume was based on me which became a flop. Now call it the work of god that the third volume was based on you. Become a volume which outclasses the previous ones and overshadows the failure of the second version. These are my parting words to you with us being sibling disciples". The speech was something like this and another legacy was passed down to Naruto. Something like that, is what I am trying to say . Not the usual brooding and moaning stuff, you know?

Obito has done far worse things than Pein. Obito made Naruto an orphan with the burden of being a Jinchuuriki. Plus Naruto wasn't really affected by Nagato's death,nor did it have any influence on Naruto. All Naruto did was forgive Nagato.

[narusaku256]

Obito has done far worse things than Pein. Obito made Naruto an orphan with the burden of being a Jinchuuriki. Plus Naruto wasn't really affected by Nagato's death,nor did it have any influence on Naruto. All Naruto did was forgive Nagato.

Naruto is probably not the type to hold something against someone for the things they did. As long as the person accepts his mistake and is willing to pay the cost for his mistakes, Naruto forgives him. He'd instead say that "It was due to all this that you did to me, I am able to come this far!" Naruto wasn't affected and influenced by Nagato's death? Well, okay if that's what you want to believe in

Edited by narusaku256, 19 July 2014 - 06:45 PM.

[FireFox]

 

 

Nothing beats Kushina and Minato's parting words to Naruto when they got stabbed by Kyuubi and Naruto's goodbye to them when he leaves the AU world, both scenes in RtN. Those were emotionally very intense.

You're god damn right about that  I even had let some manly tears  and I'm not ashamed to say it   (actually I cried like a baby  )  

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Of course that he regretted that he couldn't save her bc he loves her  but do you really meant to tell me that Obito who loved Rin so much and wanted to confess to her so many times but in the end wasn't able to  has no regrets about that ? That seem so cold to me Sorry but that makes no sense to me any person would have regrets about this kind of matter .

I believe this whole "Obito regrets not confession" is an assumption.
 

What Minato did is kind of an confession and you do realize that it shown like that and only that bc MK is created after NS only with very much less development bc NS is the main paring

That wanst a "kind of confession" he just complimented her, Naruto almost did that if he didnt told her that she was still the same when she asked him if she was more feminine.
 

Not really the impact isn't lost at all Sakura also feels unworthy of Naruto's love for her this is were his confession comes imo.

How this will changer her "unworthyness", i think her being unworthy of Naruto's love on that specific scene had nothing to do with whatever feelings she might had for him, she felt like that because she felt guilty of putting her desires into Naruto it in way felt like she was using him and was being a burden to Naruto hurting him because of his innability of fullfilling a selfish promise she unintentionally forced into him.
On whose promise no longer holds since it was broken by her.
 

Naruto believed that until Sakura's confession in LOI since then its a different playground .

I dont know, if any he was really shocked that she loved him so much that she was going to kill him to save Sasuke and even if it means letting Naruto hater her forever to relief the burden of the promise, that's from Sai's perspective that was forced into Naruto.
There's no conclusion about Naruto's feelings into that part saying it changed is an assumption and there are hints of the opposite since he was jealous at Sakura at some point.

Right now Sakura needs to convince Naruto that she loves him through her actions  if Naruto is to believe her and if NS is about to go canon otherwise its LOI again .  And still I don't see any sense of that bc NS is foreshadowed to go canon  what you said with your example is that Naruto confess but Sakura rejects him sorry don't see that happening  at all .

The problem is that it's impossible to prove she loves Naruto thoughout her actions in the moment, because all of them are connected to non-pairing feelings.
THe only way to prove it would be choosing Naruto over Sasuke on equal grounds and i think this scenario is impossible.