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#1321 Verilance

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:54 PM

why are people seemingly underestimating Sakura's Strength

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She is doing stuff few ninja could do and yet she is not seen as powerful why the disconnect?

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#1322 Branden

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:54 PM

QUOTE (Sakura Blossoms @ Jun 12 2012, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Fix your tone. Fix your attitude. Talk to people without the condensation and RUDENESS or you WILL be silenced on this forum.

One and only warning.

What morals and standards are you trying to keep here? Not long ago there was a person calling NH fans retards and all he got was a very minor warning. Yet your threatening to mute me because I stand up for individualism and self expression. I would have hoped that the creators of the website would appreciate the fact that their community would defend everyone's rights. If this is just a pure "Narusaku praise only" website then just tell me. I thought different views and arrangement's were accepted, especially in the debate thread. If I shouldn't call a person out for trying to speak like a leader when they clearly aren't then what should I do? I certainly won't just ignore it and move on. I'm tired of people acting like they can speak for other people. Everyone has a brain, they feel, they think, they live. We are all equals on the internet, that's the glory of it. You don't know most of the people you meet here. You are given the freedom the express your deepest thoughts to people who could have any variety of views and opinions, and I'll be damned if anyone is going act like they can take that away, even if it wasn't what they meant.

Did you ever think maybe it's not my words that are projecting anger, but the way your reading them? If your entire ruling is based off of tone, then anything you read in an angry fashion would be against the rules. I am never angry, or happy, or sad, while posting. I am that way because I force myself to be. I have to be at ease when I am trying to convince people, my mind has to be clear. I chose words that I believed were the best to use at the time.

I don't know how the culture in other countries is, but where I come from, words like insane can be used in a casual and friendly manner. Though that may seem strange to you, I felt comfortable enough here to use them that way. I will remember that in the future, but the main thing I wanted you to know is this :

I value my own dignity and morals above this website, so if I can't defend individualism then you might as well ban me now.


Edit: After reading Pika's comment I realized this may just be because I got angry for people misspelling my name. That actually happens alot and at this point it just really frustrates me whenever somebody does it. If that was the problem then it's an easy fix.

Edited by Branden, 12 June 2012 - 09:07 PM.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:55 PM

QUOTE (pharix @ Jun 12 2012, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
just because Sakura isn't S-Class Kage-level doesn't mean she's "weak" :/

Weak? She's crushed a freakin's apple with one hand! *tries but hurts wrist really bad* Owww....yep...anyone who says she's weak is a hater.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:55 PM

QUOTE (Konoha'sCrimsonFox @ Jun 12 2012, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Fair enough, but I don't think we will see anymore hugs till after Naruto fights Sasuke. I suspect this NS development will be a teamwork to fight against Tobi and the remaining Biiju.


Lulz, I figure we won't get anything really 'physical' (pictureem0.gif) until everything chaotic ends. I think what'd be good for now is more psychological and emotional development on Sakura's side, since she's still conflicted (based on Ch. 540). For that to be resolved, I firmly believe something drastic will need to happen to her precious blonde fu.png

Also, Branden, I don't think the problem here is defending 'individualism'. The problem is that this is a community, and your 'individualism' comes across as stomping on others. We understand you have your own opinions (and I speak for myself here), and I respect that. However, telling people to "spell your name right or else they'll be ignored" isn't individualism, it's rudeness. Instead of saying that remark, you could have easily chosen to say "By the way, it's spelled this way for future reference". Your other remarks also do come off as condescending. I don't think the matter here is about individualism- the matter here is how you carry yourself and how that's affecting this thread. Just a thought. (I'm not attacking you btw, just giving you a different perspective).

Anyway, carry on~

Edited by Pikachew, 12 June 2012 - 09:03 PM.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:11 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jun 12 2012, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What morals and standards are you trying to keep here? Not long ago there was a person calling NH fans retards and all he got was a very minor warning. Yet your threatening to mute me because I stand up for individualism and self expression. I would have hoped that the creators of the website would appreciate the fact that their community would defend everyone's rights. If this is just a pure "Narusaku praise only" website then just tell me. I thought different views and arrangement's were accepted, especially in the debate thread. If I shouldn't call a person out for trying to speak like a leader when they clearly aren't then what should I do? I certainly won't just ignore it and move on. I'm tired of people acting like they can speak for other people. Everyone has a brain, they feel, they think, they live. We are all equals on the internet, that's the glory of it. You don't know most of the people you meet here. You are given the freedom the express your deepest thoughts to people who could have any variety of views and opinions, and I'll be damned if anyone is going act like they can take that away, even if it wasn't what they meant.

Did you ever think maybe it's not my words that are projecting anger, but the way your reading them? If your entire ruling is based off of tone, then anything you read in an angry fashion would be against the rules. I am never angry, or happy, or sad, while posting. I am that way because I force myself to be. I have to be at ease when I am trying to convince people, my mind has to be clear. I chose words that I believed were the best to use at the time.

I don't know how the culture in other countries is, but where I come from, words like insane can be used in a casual and friendly manner. Though that may seem strange to you, I felt comfortable enough here to use them that way. I will remember that in the future, but the main thing I wanted you to know is this :

I value my own dignity and morals above this website, so if I can't defend individualism then you might as well ban me now.


Edit: After reading Pika's comment I realized this may just be because I got angry for people misspelling my name. That actually happens alot and at this point it just really frustrates me whenever somebody does it. If that was the problem then it's an easy fix.

This is a Narusaku debate thread, not a "is Sakura useless or not" thread. Also, the morals they are trying to keep here are that you are supposed to be respectful to everyone here. No name calling. Do you call calling people insane here and ignoring them because of misspelling respectful and having good morals?

Edited by ultranx, 12 June 2012 - 09:12 PM.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:14 PM

Personally, I did not think the insane comment was offensive, I happen to call my close friends insane all the time.

But other comments like "I won't talk to you until you spell my name right" is immature and can be seen as insulting. But let's move on please. sweatdrop.gif


Rather than a hug... maybe a scene similar to that OVA -except, it wasn't Sasuke that injured him- will happen instead. Seems highly likely to me.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:21 PM

QUOTE (Pikachew @ Jun 12 2012, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lulz, I figure we won't get anything really 'physical' (pictureem0.gif) until everything chaotic ends. I think what'd be good for now is more psychological and emotional development on Sakura's side, since she's still conflicted (based on Ch. 540). For that to be resolved, I firmly believe something drastic will need to happen to her precious blonde fu.png

Also, Branden, I don't think the problem here is defending 'individualism'. The problem is that this is a community, and your 'individualism' comes across as stomping on others. We understand you have your own opinions (and I speak for myself here), and I respect that. However, telling people to "spell your name right or else they'll be ignored" isn't individualism, it's rudeness. Instead of saying that remark, you could have easily chosen to say "By the way, it's spelled this way for future reference". Your other remarks also do come off as condescending. I don't think the matter here is about individualism- the matter here is how you carry yourself and how that's affecting this thread. Just a thought. (I'm not attacking you btw, just giving you a different perspective).

Anyway, carry on~


I did mention that Naruto needs to be Chidori into the chess, and Sakura whitness it. Maybe Kishi will pull the Sadaime Hokage act upon Sakura, making her feel remorse for not plunging the poison kunai through Sasuke's back and sparring his life because if personal feelings just like, Hiruzen had for Orochimaru as a teacher.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:22 PM

QUOTE (ultranx @ Jun 12 2012, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is a Narusaku debate thread, not a "is Sakura useless or not" thread. Also, the morals they are trying to keep here are that you are supposed to be respectful to everyone here. No name calling. Do you call calling people insane here and ignoring them because of misspelling respectful and having good morals?



It is, but we have generally allowed it to function as a general debate thread. Or at least I have.



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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:24 PM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Jun 12 2012, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Personally, I did not think the insane comment was offensive, I happen to call my close friends insane all the time.

But other comments like "I won't talk to you until you spell my name right" is immature and can be seen as insulting. But let's move on please. sweatdrop.gif


Rather than a hug... maybe a scene similar to that OVA -except, it wasn't Sasuke that injured him- will happen instead. Seems highly likely to me.

I hope that happens too. That sure would be nice to watch. Well, not that I want Naruto to be hurt, but it still would be a nice moment.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:25 PM

QUOTE (ultranx @ Jun 12 2012, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is a Narusaku debate thread, not a "is Sakura useless or not" thread. Also, the morals they are trying to keep here are that you are supposed to be respectful to everyone here. No name calling. Do you call calling people insane here and ignoring them because of misspelling respectful and having good morals?

Once again, my argument was that Sakura was weak, not that she was useless. That's the last I'm saying on the subject. It's gone on too long.



On an unrelated note, is there an english translation of the data books for sale somewhere? I need to read up.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:28 PM

The only databook in English right now is data book 3 i think. It's the Naruto Official Character Databook. I got my copy of it at Barnes and Nobles.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:30 PM

QUOTE (ultranx @ Jun 12 2012, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The only databook in English right now is data book 3 i think. It's the Naruto Official Character Databook. I got my copy of it at Barnes and Nobles.

I've never herd of that place sleep.gif

It's becoming increasingly difficult to get naruto related items now days.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:31 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jun 12 2012, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What morals and standards are you trying to keep here? Not long ago there was a person calling NH fans retards and all he got was a very minor warning. Yet your threatening to mute me because I stand up for individualism and self expression. I would have hoped that the creators of the website would appreciate the fact that their community would defend everyone's rights. If this is just a pure "Narusaku praise only" website then just tell me. I thought different views and arrangement's were accepted, especially in the debate thread. If I shouldn't call a person out for trying to speak like a leader when they clearly aren't then what should I do? I certainly won't just ignore it and move on. I'm tired of people acting like they can speak for other people. Everyone has a brain, they feel, they think, they live. We are all equals on the internet, that's the glory of it. You don't know most of the people you meet here. You are given the freedom the express your deepest thoughts to people who could have any variety of views and opinions, and I'll be damned if anyone is going act like they can take that away, even if it wasn't what they meant.

Did you ever think maybe it's not my words that are projecting anger, but the way your reading them? If your entire ruling is based off of tone, then anything you read in an angry fashion would be against the rules. I am never angry, or happy, or sad, while posting. I am that way because I force myself to be. I have to be at ease when I am trying to convince people, my mind has to be clear. I chose words that I believed were the best to use at the time.

I don't know how the culture in other countries is, but where I come from, words like insane can be used in a casual and friendly manner. Though that may seem strange to you, I felt comfortable enough here to use them that way. I will remember that in the future, but the main thing I wanted you to know is this :

I value my own dignity and morals above this website, so if I can't defend individualism then you might as well ban me now.


Edit: After reading Pika's comment I realized this may just be because I got angry for people misspelling my name. That actually happens alot and at this point it just really frustrates me whenever somebody does it. If that was the problem then it's an easy fix.


So you do realize that I wasn't trying to "speak for everyone", yet you still decide to argue over it? Seems to me like you're just looking for an excuse to be mad.

Either way, whether Sakura is weak or not all comes down to personal interpretation.

That's the last I'm going to say on this.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:35 PM

QUOTE (TerrorKing @ Jun 12 2012, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So you do realize that I wasn't trying to "speak for everyone", yet you still decide to argue over it? Seems to me like you're just looking for an excuse to be mad.

Either way, whether Sakura is weak or not all comes down to personal interpretation.

That's the last I'm going to say on this.

If you were paying attention, you'd know I cut off all emotions when trying to convince someone. By doing so I can think clearly and "an excuse to be mad.", or anything similir, will never occur.

And I'm glad we agree to disagree, because I was done with that too.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:36 PM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Jun 12 2012, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Personally, I did not think the insane comment was offensive, I happen to call my close friends insane all the time.

But other comments like "I won't talk to you until you spell my name right" is immature and can be seen as insulting. But let's move on please. sweatdrop.gif


Rather than a hug... maybe a scene similar to that OVA -except, it wasn't Sasuke that injured him- will happen instead. Seems highly likely to me.

Was Kishi involved with the OVA? If he was then the pairing war is over already. It's just a matter of waitng then.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:39 PM

this is really getting out of hand. Where's the mods?

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:44 PM

Just stick to the new topic. They both already agreed they were done with it. It's over, relax. No meltdowns are currently in progress.

On another note, not sure if he is involved in the OVA. If so, that would be awesome. But I doubt it.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:47 PM

QUOTE (Dalton (I stink at names) @ Jun 12 2012, 11:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Was Kishi involved with the OVA? If he was then the pairing war is over already. It's just a matter of waitng then.


Well that depends on how you choose to interpret it. Some people would probably say Naruto and Sakura's interaction was purely platonic.

Also, I like Kirabook, I don't think Kishi had anything to do with it. I think he has enough on his plate with the manga and all. I could be wrong though, in fact I kinda hope I am. tongue.gif

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:50 PM

Someone called me Pika :'D (although I'm normally known as Chew XD)

Anywho YES. Sakura needs to see Naruto suffer first hand just like she did when he went four tails. Knowing that someone's suffering and SEEING someone suffer right in front of you evokes different responses, and since the Four-Tails moment was so long ago, I feel we need a refresher. Not that I'm hoping for an epic defining moment or anything pictureem0.gif
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 10:02 PM

Well the questions stay has, why Kishi made so many illustrations about Naruto and Sakura, why the OVA focus on Naruto and Sakura, Movies show Naruto and Sasukra and in filler they show Sakura haven feeling for Naruto. I have never seen any canon filler that focus on
Sasuke>>>>>>Sakura or Naruto>>>>>Hinata.






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