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[FireFox]

I wonder if Sasuke's life is really in danger. If so, which one between Sasuke and Naruto Sakura will save first ? I hope it would be Naruto But who knows, she might have time to save both of them !

She already did that choice in the kage summit arc there is no need to guess , which ones name did she called out when Naruto and Sasuke clashed that's all i have to say on this subject , And come on people can we put this to the rest already i mean really if she can she will save them both but Naruto will always be/take her priority what's enough is enough.. 

You know what if we don't really get a NS moment, what if Sakura heals him and that's it?   She will likely cry, like she would do if any other friend died, we are just hoping for something more. Healing and crying isn't romantic in itself after all. Of course it is a golden opportunity, but I think Kishi misses a lot of those. Like, Sakura meeting Chiyo again(and giving the development to someone as irrelevant as Kankuro instead -.-)

 

This is definitely what I'm leaning towards happening, or something close to it. Of course I would love if something more significant happened, but just have to wait and see.

 

 

Wow, that would definitely be an unexpected turn of events.

Of course that healing and crying for a friend isn't romantic in itself (even though she didn't cry for Neji maybe for someone like Ino or team 10) but i think that you guys are forgetting that Naruto is not just anyone to her he's her pillar of hope,confidence,faith ,her happiness and he keeps her grounded as much as she keeps him , or else what would be the point of all of the foreshadowing about her true subconscious/undiscovered feelings for him which she has showed in  more than a few occasions and those are when Naruto's in life danger, he's at peace with himself or when he does/says something extraordinary , i mean just look at the OVA 2011 and tell me that at that moment she didn't realize her true feelings for him i double dare anyone , you can see that she put all of her hearth and soul in those tears , she doesn't even needs to tell you how much she loves him you can freaking see it its on all over her face the moment he wakes up and if this is not a clear indication of what would happen to her what will she show to us if Naruto "dies" than i don't know what will and not to mention that Kishi also had a part in this OVA .

 

 

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Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 18 January 2014 - 02:27 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

You know, like inferno said, anyone saw that comic? That's pretty funny. Now I think about it though, I don't think Orochimaru would allow Madara to kill him off. Imagine if he shows up. He does want that body.

[Kakashi-Sensei]

She already did that choice in the kage summit arc there is no need to guess , which ones name did she called out when Naruto and Sasuke clashed that's all i have to say on this subject , And come on people can we put this to the rest already i mean really if she can she will save them both but Naruto will always be/take her priority what's enough is enough.. 

 

 

You seem to forgot that Sasuke is Sakura's cruch since her childhood, I think it would be a much more difficult choice that we would imagine !

 

Either way, i hope she will not use a Chiyo style justu to save them in caust of her life 

[BakeNeko-Chan]

She already did that choice in the kage summit arc there is no need to guess , which ones name did she called out when Naruto and Sasuke clashed that's all i have to say on this subject , And come on people can we put this to the rest already i mean really if she can she will save them both but Naruto will always be/take her priority what's enough is enough.. 

Of course that healing and crying for a friend isn't romantic in itself (even though she didn't cry for Neji maybe for someone like Ino or team 10) but i think that you guys are forgetting that Naruto is not just anyone to her he's her pillar of hope,confidence,faith ,her happiness and he keeps her grounded as much as she keeps him , or else what would be the point of all of the foreshadowing about her true subconscious/undiscovered feelings for him which she has showed in  more than a few occasions and those are when Naruto's in life danger, he's at peace with himself or when he does/says something extraordinary , i mean just look at the OVA 2011 and tell me that at that moment she didn't realize her true feelings for him i double dare anyone , you can see that she put all of her hearth and soul in those tears , she doesn't even needs to tell you how much she loves him you can freaking see its on all over her face the moment he wakes up and if this is not a clear indication of what would happen to her what will she show to us if Naruto "dies" than i don't know what will and not to mention that Kishi also had a part in this OVA .

 

 

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I can only speak for myself, but I certainly haven't forgotten any of that, not even close. I suppose I'm just being overly realistic and maybe a tiny bit pessimistic.   I'm also trying to take into consideration that this is a shonen and romance is only secondary, and pairing moments can't be expected in every situation, or even in situations where we believe they should happen.

[Shashank95]

Am i the only one here who thinks Sasuke shouldn't be given any more power ??
Sorry if this is a late question, but is Obito a goner ? Is Black Zetsu the only thing keeping him alive ?

[FireFox]

 

You seem to forgot that Sasuke is Sakura's cruch since her childhood, I think it would be a much more difficult choice that we would imagine !

 

Either way, i hope she will not use a Chiyo style justu to save them in caust of her life 

No i didn't but for some reason it seems like everyone just forgot about all of the development that Naruto and Sakura have , how many panels do we have of Sakura putting Naruto's well being and feelings before her own (and those of Sasuke) and  vice versa just look at the kage summit arc and see what she has done just so Naruto could be safe , oh did i mention that she also doesn't trust Sasuke and see him in flames or how about she worrying about Naruto all the time in this war before and after Sasuke's comeback , it's pretty obvious who she prioritize the most . I have said this a dozens of times and i will say it again for Sakura to even doubt who to save first or  chose Sasuke over Naruto now it would be a regression and destruction of her growth as character and in her relationship with Naruto and it's not who Sakura is when it comes to Naruto  , it will ruin all the development/build up they had as a individual character (this is the most important thing) and as a future couple and after everything we have witness from her I personally can't see her ever doing this , if you still want to disagree with me on this its fine but seriously i had enough of this being brought up here . Besides we don't even know if Sasuke's life is really in danger and if so there are still many others that could help him (Karin , Hashi's chakra , Jugo etc ) .

 

About Sakura using Chiyo's jutsu i can see her doing it when she fully releases the seal maybe and if Naruto's is not dead just barely alive so that way she won't die .

 

I can only speak for myself, but I certainly haven't forgotten any of that, not even close. I suppose I'm just being overly realistic and maybe a tiny bit pessimistic.   I'm also trying to take into consideration that this is a shonen and romance is only secondary, and pairing moments can't be expected in every situation, or even in situations where we believe they should happen.

Yeah i get that i sometimes do this my self  and its true it may not come in a sense that if Naruto isn't going to die but if he is than that's a entirely different story  personally i think it will , also what pisses me of is this over use of Sakura have to "chose" when there are so many factors in play why such a fuss about this ? plus i can never ever see Sakura doing this to Naruto never , not after everything they have been thru together it seems to me we all need to relax a bit and put this chose thing to the end already       

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 18 January 2014 - 02:09 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

If Kushina was capable of being healed Minato would've probably dragged her back to Konoha. And if Kushina knew she could've lived she would've just let Minato handle it. Kushina acted because she wanted to die being of assistance instead of dying while doing nothing, that's why she mustered up the strength to chain Kurama.
 
The point of surviving by being Uzumaki is 1) Kishi needed her alive for the emotional scenes afterwards, 2) So that it would be believable that Naruto wouldn't immediately die after having Kurama extracted.
 
 
 
My same thoughts.
 
Even if Obito hadn't said "YET" going by Minato's following actions and words it's pretty clear Kushina was going to die regardless.
 
If Kushina had a chance to live Minato would've simply said that he would seal Kurama into Naruto and let Kushina raise him. But he also came up with having Kushina's chakra seal so that she could see Naruto once again.
 
Isn't it logical that if there was a chance medic nins could help Kushina that Minato would've explored that idea? This is not so complicated.

Then why Minato bought up Kushina if she was going to die anyway, it doesnt make sense, he could just seal the kyuubi on himself with hsi techniques but no he decided to sacrifice his own life to seal the kyuubi on Naruto on which doesnt make sense.
There was no necessity to seal the kyuubi on Naruto too.
This whole moment felt like "for plot purposes".

Also nothing could prevent Kushina on using Shiki fuuin too.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 18 January 2014 - 11:53 AM.

[T XD]

Sakura may not save any of them. She may just at most show her reaction regarding both of them and that's it. If Sasuke is still injured and if she knows what happened to him, she would show concern and can help him too if she can cause he's her friend just like Naruto cares about him, consider him a friend and would want to help him too if he wasn't in such a condition now.

 

She would for sure do something if she does has a way to rescue them, and that if Sasuke is still in such a situation for her to know about him. Of course, she won't go to Sasuke and forget Naruto. That's won't happen. Also, Naruto could be on his way to Sakura if Gaara is taking him to her for help, and Sasuke will be fine thanks for Hashirama's jutsu, or is just pranking Madara to attack with the jutsu, or Juugo or Karin will be helping him recover. 

 

It really doesn't matter who she will go to first if she will be the one to help them. What's important is how she'll be shown and what she'll say and/or think of Naruto from a side and of Sasuke from another side if she's the one beside them to help each.

 

Minato, Obito, Gaara and even Tsunade have as much equal chance as Sakura to rescue Naruto.

[redragon88]

Then why Minato bought up Kushina if she was going to die anyway, it doesnt make sense, he could just seal the kyuubi on himself with hsi techniques but no he decided to sacrifice his own life to seal the kyuubi on Naruto on which doesnt make sense.
There was no necessity to seal the kyuubi on Naruto too.
This whole moment felt like "for plot purposes".

Also nothing could prevent Kushina on using Shiki fuuin too.

 

Does Kushina know the death reaper seal too? I don't remember it being mentioned. I could be wrong though.

 

Minato referred to himself as a non-jinchuriki, so I'm guessing he concluded that sealing Kurama inside him would kill him (like it happened with those who aren't compatible). I still don't know why Minato didn't simply seal all of Kurama inside Naruto, but I'll just guess that he thought it would be too much for Naruto to handle as a baby.

 

Maybe his thoughts were "Naruto is half Uzumaki so he can handle half of the kyuubi".

 

What do you mean "Minato bought up Kushina"?

[TouKen4Life3g]

I get the feeling that something we haven't said or the least popular choice would happen. Then again, what hasn't? I guess my new motto is "wait." Simple but straight to the point.

[Inferno180]

It's possible sakura, tsunade, minato, and even gaara have a chance of bringing naruto back or starting it. Obito as well.

Sakura and tsunade obviously for being medics, but I would say sakura is slightly ahead for this because of what she learned from Chiyo long ago and for being narutos teammate. Tsunade can also do it simply for being the best medic but sakura would be more impactful for the situation as said before, if anything it could be one or both healing naruto or kinda like when shikamaru was healed, they healed shikamaru physically while naruto supplied the chakra. Any of sakura healing naruto alone, tsunade alone, or both healing naruto both.

If it's gaara, it may be released to what kurama told him.

With minato, yes the other half of kurama transfered to naruto.

With obito, I'd be guessing he would use rinne tensei again while he is still alive.

[sushi.]

 

Does Kushina know the death reaper seal too? I don't remember it being mentioned. I could be wrong though.

 

Minato referred to himself as a non-jinchuriki, so I'm guessing he concluded that sealing Kurama inside him would kill him (like it happened with those who aren't compatible). I still don't know why Minato didn't simply seal all of Kurama inside Naruto, but I'll just guess that he thought it would be too much for Naruto to handle as a baby.

 

Maybe his thoughts were "Naruto is half Uzumaki so he can handle half of the kyuubi".

 

What do you mean "Minato bought up Kushina"?

If I remember correctly Minato thought that Naruto could take half of Kurama because he was an infant. It's not like his genes are 50% uzumakis anyway, they're more coincidental. Besides, Uzumaki is probably the dominant trait.

[TacticalFox88]

I get the feeling that something we haven't said or the least popular choice would happen. Then again, what hasn't? I guess my new motto is "wait." Simple but straight to the point.

Imagine if we get a NaruSaku moment, but its in a way that we haven't thought of. 

 

:O 

[TouKen4Life3g]

Imagine if we get a NaruSaku moment, but its in a way that we haven't thought of. 
 
:O 

We have been getting that lately. In a way, I'm still surprised that after 627, you would assume a full fledge SS, but ended up getting an anti one. I think they're the one to get "Good, not good" scenario.

[Arachnia]

You know what i wonder is there a possibility that white spiral zetsu is still locked in Obito, and that he will fight black Zetsu off the reason i say this is:

1 what ever happend too spiral guy we know there is a possibility that he was still in obito when he was tobi with deidara.

2 in the anime i got a feeling the spiral guy was outcasted even by the normal zetsu as a failed clone of him let alone madara attitude against him.

3 in the manga and anime you saw spiral with a caring face when he helped obito up when he tripped latest episode btw.

 

i cant help but think he was a good part of the zetsu but mabey i am failing hard here and we wont see or hear from him again.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Does Kushina know the death reaper seal too? I don't remember it being mentioned. I could be wrong though.
 
Minato referred to himself as a non-jinchuriki, so I'm guessing he concluded that sealing Kurama inside him would kill him (like it happened with those who aren't compatible). I still don't know why Minato didn't simply seal all of Kurama inside Naruto, but I'll just guess that he thought it would be too much for Naruto to handle as a baby.
 
Maybe his thoughts were "Naruto is half Uzumaki so he can handle half of the kyuubi".
 
What do you mean "Minato bought up Kushina"?

She was the one who taught Minato all the sealing techniques he has, and she knew of Shiki Fuuin.

Probably but this whole compatible thing, doesnt have any backup to support we even saw Rin which had nothing of special and she was a jinchuuriki, it's more like "it's cuz Kishi wanted" than something stabilished or explained.
Minato even being dead he can control Kurama's chakra perfectly as Naruto.

My question would be why Minato didnt sealed Kurama inside himself without using Shiki Fuuin, Kushina even stated "why Shiki Fuuin?"
showing that there were other sealing techniques.

My guess is that Minato seemed himself as a failure and after seeing he wanst even capable of protecting his own family he prefered to die as a hero.
ALso during Orochimaru's talk, he even expressed that he wasnt meant to be hokage, Orochimaru said that people felt pity that he didnt managed to become hokage, Minato became hokage mostly because the fact he was married to the Kyuubi's Jinchuuriki.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 18 January 2014 - 05:03 PM.

[Inferno180]

I do still find it kinda funny how the last time we saw sakura and a few if the other characters was during the tug if war around chapter 653, so if anything some should come back at this time with naruto down, I mean if gaara brings naruto to be healed we should see most people again.

It's just, in the event gaara doesn't bring naruto to the area where sakura and tsunade are, rather if it's something else to occur for narutos recovery, I'd be kinda shocked that there wouldn't be any use of sakura or even tsunade for it. I mean it's a really high chance they will be involved but it would be shocking if it didn't happen.

[redragon88]

She was the one who taught Minato all the sealing techniques he has, and she knew of Shiki Fuuin.

Probably but this whole compatible thing, doesnt have any backup to support we even saw Rin which had nothing of special and she was a jinchuuriki, it's more like "it's cuz Kishi wanted" than something stabilished or explained.
Minato even being dead he can control Kurama's chakra perfectly as Naruto.

My question would be why Minato didnt sealed Kurama inside himself without using Shiki Fuuin, Kushina even stated "why Shiki Fuuin?"
showing that there were other sealing techniques.

 

Minato mentioned that he was able to use the Shiki Fujin because he wasn't a jinchuriki, so Kushina wouldn't be able to use it even if she knew how.

 

I think anybody can have a bijuu sealed in them, but only those compatible can hold the beast inside them. Remember that the plan of the Mist village was to unleash the three tails in Konoha. They knew it was only a matter of time before Rin lost control (since she wasn't compatible as a jinchuriki) and released the beast.

 

As far as Minato controlling the other Kurama, maybe it's possible precisely because he's dead. Maybe a bijuu only causes a strain in an actual living human body.

 

And for Minato using the Shiki fujin instead of the seal he used on Naruto, I guess because as a non-jinchuriki he would end up dying anyway and the other Kurama would be unleashed therefore making trouble for Konoha again.

Edited by redragon88, 18 January 2014 - 06:39 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Minato mentioned that he was able to use the Shiki Fujin because he wasn't a jinchuriki, so Kushina wouldn't be able to use it even if she knew how.
 
I think anybody can have a bijuu sealed in them, but only those compatible can hold the beast inside them. Remember that the plan of the Mist village was to unleash the three tails in Konoha. They knew it was only a matter of time before Rin lost control (since she wasn't compatible as a jinchuriki) and released the beast.
 
As far as Minato controlling the other Kurama, maybe it's possible precisely because he's dead. Maybe a bijuu only causes a strain in an actual living human body.
 
And for Minato using the Shiki fujin instead of the seal he used on Naruto, I guess because as a non-jinchuriki he would end up dying anyway and the other Kurama would be unleashed therefore making trouble for Konoha again.

But Kushina wasnt a jinchuuriki at that moment, she already lose the kyuubi, but that's not the point, he didnt give any justificative about why he's using Shiki Fuuin instead of another sealing technique.

Rin's case also there's no justificative too, it's a supposition they also could have a special sealing for Rin and when they get close to Konoha they activate the jutsu on which would open the seal, and that's another suposition because Minato and Kushina are experts on sealing ninjutsu and they could reverse that and save her life.

Kishi never answered the question of "WHy Minato had to sacrifice his life?".

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 18 January 2014 - 08:16 PM.

[sushi.]

But Kushina wasnt a jinchuuriki at that moment, she already lose the kyuubi, but that's not the point, he didnt give any justificative about why he's using Shiki Fuuin instead of another sealing technique.

Rin's case also there's no justificative too, it's a supposition they also could have a special sealing for Rin and when they get close to Konoha they activate the jutsu on which would open the seal, and that's another suposition because Minato and Kushina are experts on sealing ninjutsu and they could reverse that and save her life.

Kishi never answered the question of "WHy Minato had to sacrifice his life?".

Kushina was initially going to die, and let Minato raise Naruto on his own. Minato said he couldn't do that, as there are some things only a mother can do. He chose to let Naruto meet his parents once in a lifetime, instead of being a lonefather.