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#13341 StrikerTheNoble

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:09 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Mar 24 2013, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
UMMMM not gonna agree with this. We know she hadn't accepted/found her love for him but it is there. You make it sound like she has nothing for him atm dry.gif


We know that. Most of the Narutoverse doesnt. I think he wrote that from their PoV am I right?

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:10 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Mar 24 2013, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
UMMMM not gonna agree with this. We know she hadn't accepted/found her love for him but it is there. You make it sound like she has nothing for him atm dry.gif

then i'll make a quick question how can you classify those "feelings"?
You cant say it's love because she says she loves Sasuke and thinks this way.
Also you cant say it's friendship because she showed things that goes beyond of this.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:16 PM

QUOTE (Beastbomb @ Mar 24 2013, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I personally would not have been shocked. Since the beginning of part two, I have seen the feelings of Sakura change and based on the interactions that they have already had that are platonic, I believe Sakura could give the speech without a implication of love. Although being an NS fan, I would probably argue that it was. But a speech from Sakura would not surprise me at at all... Hope i phrased this answer right, not really sure if i gave a good one to your reply. I agree, I am excited to see what Kishsi has in store for Team 7 in the future. Hopefully he excludes Hinata from it all and brings her back in to finish her development with something like getting over Naruto and becoming heir to the hyuuga clan during the epilogue. biggrin.gif

It's possible that getting over with Naruto can happen off-screen in a way back from Pain Arc, or she will just drop it here since this is most likely the last time we'll see them develop anything special. If Hinata talks to Sakura and tells her to support Naruto all the way, then she passes the torch alas moving on. Again, Hinata is not a jealous type, rather just accept what's good for a person.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:20 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 24 2013, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
then i'll make a quick question how can you classify those "feelings"?
You cant say it's love because she says she loves Sasuke and thinks this way.
Also you cant say it's friendship because she showed things that goes beyond of this.


I wish Sakura could make her mind up already. She "loves" Sasuke still.. which is insane imo, and she has "feeling" beyond friendship for Naruto.

Sakura sounds a little greedy hehehe pictureem0.gif pictureem0.gif pictureem0.gif

Seriously though, Sakura is beggining to let go of Sasuke romantically, even kishi said "She thinks she loves Sasuke, but Naruto is close to her heart" (I think thats right)

She is shown to see Sasuke in a bad light, even though she "loves" him.

Oh and they have tried to kill each other pictureem0.gif th_7eyytubokky7rehok1k.gif pictureem0.gif th_7eyytubokky7rehok1k.gif

SS is DEAD!!! ill pay for the funeral 111189.gif

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:22 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 24 2013, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
then i'll make a quick question how can you classify those "feelings"?
You cant say it's love because she says she loves Sasuke and thinks this way.
Also you cant say it's friendship because she showed things that goes beyond of this.


Words don't prove anything, actions do. Ever heard the expression " Judge a man by his actions, not his words." That's how my conclusion of Sakura's feelings are created. She expresses something more than friendship toward Naruto, there is no doubt about it... But love.... that's still not proven and i can't say her feelings are love. But they are close for sure. wether it's a deep bond or some sort of connection, that's for Kishi to decide. As for me, I'm willing to say that she is at the verge of love, but she is just not there yet. The best example I can give you is Tenchi bridge, because the entire arc ( is it an arc? I'm bad at determining when arcs begin and end) implies something more than friendship between them.

#13346 StrikerTheNoble

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:23 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Mar 24 2013, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wish Sakura could make her mind up already. She "loves" Sasuke still.. which is insane imo, and she has "feeling" beyond friendship for Naruto.

Sakura sounds a little greedy hehehe pictureem0.gif pictureem0.gif pictureem0.gif

Seriously though, Sakura is beggining to let go of Sasuke romantically, even kishi said "She thinks she loves Sasuke, but Naruto is close to her heart" (I think thats right)

She is shown to see Sasuke in a bad light, even though she "loves" him.

Oh and they have tried to kill each other pictureem0.gif th_7eyytubokky7rehok1k.gif pictureem0.gif th_7eyytubokky7rehok1k.gif

SS is DEAD!!! ill pay for the funeral 111189.gif


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Bye NH/SS It was nice knowing while you still had a shot.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:24 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Mar 24 2013, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
UMMMM not gonna agree with this. We know she hadn't accepted/found her love for him but it is there. You make it sound like she has nothing for him atm dry.gif



QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Mar 24 2013, 04:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We know that. Most of the Narutoverse doesnt. I think he wrote that from their PoV am I right?

Right. Think this way. What's more surprising?

1) Person A, who already loves Person B, pep talk to B, with hand holding and all, while B don't love A like that.

2) Person A, who is claimed by audience that A doesn't love B, pep talk to B, with hand holding and all, while B does love A already.

#13348 StrikerTheNoble

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:26 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 24 2013, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Right. Think this way. What's more surprising?

1) Person A, who already loves Person B, pep talk to B, with hand holding and all, while B don't love A like that.

2) Person A, who is claimed by audience that A doesn't love B, pep talk to B, with hand holding and all, while B does love A already.


Your lucky I`m smart so I understood that. biggrin.gif

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:30 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 24 2013, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's possible that getting over with Naruto can happen off-screen in a way back from Pain Arc, or she will just drop it here since this is most likely the last time we'll see them develop anything special. If Hinata talks to Sakura and tells her to support Naruto all the way, then she passes the torch alas moving on. Again, Hinata is not a jealous type, rather just accept what's good for a person.


Completely agree. The Hug scene proves that. I believe Hinata will get over Naruto, to bad it's going to take even longer for it to happen which probably means more NH moments down the road, but just not as large as the handholding and speech on chp 615. dry.gif

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:33 PM

QUOTE (Beastbomb @ Mar 24 2013, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Words don't prove anything, actions do. Ever heard the expression " Judge a man by his actions, not his words." That's how my conclusion of Sakura's feelings are created. She expresses something more than friendship toward Naruto, there is no doubt about it... But love.... that's still not proven and i can't say her feelings are love. But they are close for sure. wether it's a deep bond or some sort of connection, that's for Kishi to decide. As for me, I'm willing to say that she is at the verge of love, but she is just not there yet. The best example I can give you is Tenchi bridge, because the entire arc ( is it an arc? I'm bad at determining when arcs begin and end) implies something more than friendship between them.

Yeah, I understand this. I always felt she reached to the friendship level with Naruto and now, she can stop and break to a new level, like a video game. She has been showing love interactions and I believe Sakura doesn't know the level of those actions. This is her problems: not noticing it. What she needs is a recap of her and Naruto in a quick nutshell to understand her feelings clearer. She only recalls the promise and the damage of it in last arc. The bridge moment shows her thinking of him period, past and present. That's why she felt hurt, especially how she grasps her heart. So again, Naruto needs to talk to her and say something moving that concerns her. His words are powerful to make everyone change and realize themselves.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:35 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 24 2013, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I understand this. I always felt she reached to the friendship level with Naruto and now, she can stop and break to a new level, like a video game. She has been showing love interactions and I believe Sakura doesn't know the level of those actions. This is her problems: not noticing it. What she needs is a recap of her and Naruto in a quick nutshell to understand her feelings clearer. She only recalls the promise and the damage of it in last arc. The bridge moment shows her thinking of him period, past and present. That's why she felt hurt, especially how she grasps her heart. So again, Naruto needs to talk to her and say something moving that concerns her. His words are powerful to make everyone change and realize themselves.


You know what she needs? A nice NaruSaku AMV. That will fix it right up.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:38 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 24 2013, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Right. Think this way. What's more surprising?

1) Person A, who already loves Person B, pep talk to B, with hand holding and all, while B don't love A like that.

2) Person A, who is claimed by audience that A doesn't love B, pep talk to B, with hand holding and all, while B does love A already.



Agreed number 2) seems more surprising but Kishi pulled an inverse psychology on us.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:39 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Mar 24 2013, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know what she needs? A nice NaruSaku AMV. That will fix it right up.

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QUOTE (Dkey @ Mar 24 2013, 04:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agreed number 2) seems more surprising but Kishi pulled an inverse psychology on us.

Again, there must be a reason on why hold Team 7. The last volume was all friendship development for Naruto and others, yet Sakura and Sai were left out.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:47 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 24 2013, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I understand this. I always felt she reached to the friendship level with Naruto and now, she can stop and break to a new level, like a video game. She has been showing love interactions and I believe Sakura doesn't know the level of those actions. This is her problems: not noticing it. What she needs is a recap of her and Naruto in a quick nutshell to understand her feelings clearer. She only recalls the promise and the damage of it in last arc. The bridge moment shows her thinking of him period, past and present. That's why she felt hurt, especially how she grasps her heart. So again, Naruto needs to talk to her and say something moving that concerns her. His words are powerful to make everyone change and realize themselves.



I agree that Naruto would be a catalyst when Sakura see's Naruto in a love aspect, but in the end, it's up to her. She has to come to the conclusion that Naruto is the one she loves. I don't know how Kishi is going to get there, but the first move (at least mentally) has to be on her. Naruto's confession may jumpstart her to change her feelings, but my God she needs to act on them before anything changes. Its just taking so long for them to happen. arg.gif

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:48 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Mar 24 2013, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know what she needs? A nice NaruSaku AMV. That will fix it right up.


2011 amv anyone?? biggrin.gif

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:54 PM

QUOTE (Beastbomb @ Mar 24 2013, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree that Naruto would be a catalyst when Sakura see's Naruto in a love aspect, but in the end, it's up to her. She has to come to the conclusion that Naruto is the one she loves. I don't know how Kishi is going to get there, but the first move (at least mentally) has to be on her. Naruto's confession may jumpstart her to change her feelings, but my God she needs to act on them before anything changes. Its just taking so long for them to happen. arg.gif

Oh of course, it's up to her, but I'm just saying that Naruto should say something that points only her without making a confession. That can hit her so strong, she can realize her level of feelings for him. In FMA, Ed told Winry that he promised the next time she cries, she will cry for happiness for him and Al will return with normal body. She was happy, but then, she recapped all the moments of Ed, mainly what made him him. After that, she realized what she was feeling: love. Sakura can realize it before Naruto's confession so she can expect it with joy. The only question for her is whether Naruto will return alive or not, hence "both of us will die".

#13357 StrikerTheNoble

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 09:06 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Mar 24 2013, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
2011 amv anyone?? biggrin.gif


That would do the trick.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 09:10 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 24 2013, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh of course, it's up to her, but I'm just saying that Naruto should say something that points only her without making a confession. That can hit her so strong, she can realize her level of feelings for him. In FMA, Ed told Winry that he promised the next time she cries, she will cry for happiness for him and Al will return with normal body. She was happy, but then, she recapped all the moments of Ed, mainly what made him him. After that, she realized what she was feeling: love. Sakura can realize it before Naruto's confession so she can expect it with joy. The only question for her is whether Naruto will return alive or not, hence "both of us will die".


I agree, an NS moment like Sakura -> Naruto is all we need.... Somewhat, Naruto still needs to show that his feelings toward Sakura are the same. But any moment that Sakura intiates could lead to her falling in love with Naruto, it does not need to happen at his confession (If he is the one who actually confesses).

This is actually my first manga. But something along those lines could initiate feelings of love toward Naruto. Something like that is a moment that seems very possible to happen in the story.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 09:14 PM

QUOTE (Beastbomb @ Mar 24 2013, 05:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree, an NS moment like Sakura -> Naruto is all we need.... Somewhat, Naruto still needs to show that his feelings toward Sakura are the same. But any moment that Sakura intiates could lead to her falling in love with Naruto, it does not need to happen at his confession (If he is the one who actually confesses).

This is actually my first manga. But something along those lines could initiate feelings of love toward Naruto. Something like that is a moment that seems very possible to happen in the story.

Oh interesting. I'm aware of how anime/manga works, so it doesn't come as a surprise if that moment does happen. Is that bad? No, because it works to the manga favor. One dialogue I have in mind, but striker may bash me for not telling him/her first. Lol.

#13360 StrikerTheNoble

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 09:24 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 24 2013, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh interesting. I'm aware of how anime/manga works, so it doesn't come as a surprise if that moment does happen. Is that bad? No, because it works to the manga favor. One dialogue I have in mind, but striker may bash me for not telling him/her first. Lol.


Lol no. When I say shut up and write the dialoge I mean that you should stop saying what it would look like and actually put it on paper(screen in this case). Like I said you have talent.

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