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[redragon88]

 

Actually I proved myself wrong before you proved me wrong. So I kinda corrected myself. Didnt mean to get "snappy" OK but it is also true that chakra is used during child birth, so had Kushina had Kuruma extracted without giving birth to Naruto, I am sure she would have had enough chakra to survive with medical assistance. Like the situation Naruto is in right now. 

 

It's ok, I admit I got a little riled up myself, so sorry about that.

 

At least we can agree that thanks to Kushina's circumstances (birth and extraction) that Minato concluded she was going to die no matter what thus sealed her chakra to give her one last chance to see Naruto grown up. Right?

 

I still see it as any Uzumaki having an extraction that they would survive in the beginning but later die, whether it was Kushina or Naruto or any other Uzumaki. But I guess we can only wait to see what Kurama's strategy to save Naruto will be.

[Kster95]

 

It's ok, I admit I got a little riled up myself, so sorry about that.

 

At least we can agree that thanks to Kushina's circumstances (birth and extraction) that Minato concluded she was going to die no matter what thus sealed her chakra to give her one last chance to see Naruto grown up. Right?

 

I still see it as any Uzumaki having an extraction that they would survive in the beginning but later die, whether it was Kushina or Naruto or any other Uzumaki. But I guess we can only wait to see what Kurama's strategy to save Naruto will be.

 

Yeah she was going to die but had there randomly been medics where Minato dropped her off, I am pretty sure they could have stabilized her as she was low on chakra. With Naruto now, there are 3 different healers and the other half of Kuruma so I doubt he will have the same fate. We shall have to wait and see. 

Edited by Kster95, 17 January 2014 - 01:22 PM.

[redragon88]

 

Yeah she was going to die but had randomly been medics where Minato dropped her off, I am pretty sure they could have stabilized her as she was low on chakra. With Naruto now, there are 3 different healers and the other half of Kuruma so I doubt he will have the same fate. 

 

Are you saying that what Minato said was wrong? Why?

 

If Minato believed medics could save her then he wouldn't have come up with giving Naruto the last of Kushina's chakra.

[Kster95]

 

Are you saying that what Minato said was wrong? Why?

 

If Minato believed medics could save her then he wouldn't have come up with giving Naruto the last of Kushina's chakra.

 

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Minato tells her sorry, that he has to drag her back into it, Kushina says my chakra is almost drained, then after restraining the kyuubi she says I will seal it with the little chakra I have left. So had she not gotten involved again, she could have just healed. What would be the point in uzumaki's surviving extraction if they are going to die later on, slow and painful death?

Edited by Kster95, 17 January 2014 - 01:41 PM.

[六道仙人]

actually Kushina was dying due to kyuubi's extraction. Obito said to her "Wow...Uzumaki clan's bloodline is amazing... You didn't die YET..."

 

Kushina was just gonna to die, it was only a matter of time. Uzumaki blood is vigorous as a roach but it doesn't give you the immortality. That's why Kushina was willing to sacrifice herself even though she hadn't a lethal blow. No kittening way she would have left alone his new-born son with his father. Childrens needs the maternal figure above all.

[redragon88]

 

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Minato tell her sorry, that he has to drag her back into it, Kushinia says my chakra is almost drained, then after restraining the kyuubi she says I will seal it with the little chakra I had left. So had she not gotten involved again, she could have just healed. What would be the point in uzumaki's surviving extraction if they are going to die later on, slow and painful death?

 

If Kushina was capable of being healed Minato would've probably dragged her back to Konoha. And if Kushina knew she could've lived she would've just let Minato handle it. Kushina acted because she wanted to die being of assistance instead of dying while doing nothing, that's why she mustered up the strength to chain Kurama.

 

The point of surviving by being Uzumaki is 1) Kishi needed her alive for the emotional scenes afterwards, 2) So that it would be believable that Naruto wouldn't immediately die after having Kurama extracted.

 

 

actually Kushina was dying due to kyuubi's extraction. Obito said to her "Wow...Uzumaki clan's bloodline is amazing... You didn't die YET..."

 

Kushina was just gonna to die, it was only a matter of time. Uzumaki blood is vigorous as a roach but it doesn't give you the immortality. That's why Kushina was willing to sacrifice herself even though she hadn't a lethal blow. No kittening way she would have left alone his new-born son with his father. Childrens needs the maternal figure above all.

 

My same thoughts.

 

Even if Obito hadn't said "YET" going by Minato's following actions and words it's pretty clear Kushina was going to die regardless.

 

If Kushina had a chance to live Minato would've simply said that he would seal Kurama into Naruto and let Kushina raise him. But he also came up with having Kushina's chakra seal so that she could see Naruto once again.

 

Isn't it logical that if there was a chance medic nins could help Kushina that Minato would've explored that idea? This is not so complicated.

Edited by redragon88, 17 January 2014 - 02:01 PM.

[Kster95]

If Kushina was capable of being healed Minato would've probably dragged her back to Konoha. And if Kushina knew she could've lived she would've just let Minato handle it. Kushina acted because she wanted to die being of assistance instead of dying while doing nothing, that's why she mustered up the strength to chain Kurama.
 
The point of surviving by being Uzumaki is 1) Kishi needed her alive for the emotional scenes afterwards, 2) So that it would be believable that Naruto wouldn't immediately die after having Kurama extracted.
 
 

 
My same thoughts.
 
Even if Obito hadn't said "YET" going by Minato's following actions and words it's pretty clear Kushina was going to die regardless.
 
If Kushina had a chance to live Minato would've simply said that he would seal Kurama into Naruto and let Kushina raise him. But he also came up with having Kushina's chakra seal so that she could see Naruto once again.
 
Isn't it logical that if there was a chance medic nins could help Kushina that Minato would've explored that idea? This is not so complicated.

Well he was hokage at the time and was putting the village first, how else would he have restrained the kyuubi. But fine she was dead from the start. Poor Kushina :( Worst and best day of her life...

Edited by Kster95, 17 January 2014 - 02:12 PM.

[redragon88]

Well he was hokage at the time and was putting the village first, how else would he have restrained the kyuubi. But fine was dead from the start. Poor Kushina :(

 

In the bold I can agree. :( :( :(

 

But Naruto and Sakura will be able to live the life Minato and Kushina weren't able to. That's for sure.

Edited by redragon88, 17 January 2014 - 02:15 PM.

[narulsaku]

Narulsaku: Ok I can Understand That X). I Didn't Mean To Let It Sound Like That Naruto Was Already dead. He is Kushinas Son So Yeah He'll Still Be Alive But Barely. Now As For The Fusing Thing (Bijuu mode), what I was thinking was something similar to DBZ Fusion (without the dance of coarse -__- lol) if They somehow fused the other kurama and naruto then they could make him into something other then a Jinchurriki!!! Think about it..........
1:He Can Transform Into Bijuu Mode Anytime he wants so long he has stored enough chakra.
2: He No Longer Has To Worry About Extraction Cause he Doesn't Have A Bijuu In Him cause He's Like Bijuu Himself!!!
3: And For the Sake Of Giving Him More Firepower With His Fight With Sasuke.......when He Saves Kurama, maybe Kurama Would Let Naruto Summon Him Like Madara Did And Then Naruto Goes Bijuu Mode and BOOM!!! Two Back To Back Nine Tails In the Flesh!!!!

Sorry Bout That XD I Like To Think These Things A lot In Detail lol. If I Come Out Dumb Or Ignorant about The Facts When Talking About This Stuff I'm Really Really Sorry XD lol

for1 i would say that bee can tranform in to 8tails any time
About 2 cant say anything.
About 3 i would say i dont think that after fusion he can summon kurama

[六道仙人]

I strongly think that Naruto will die, momentarily. But Obito will revive him  with the rinne tensei at the end.

[Kster95]

I strongly think that Naruto will die, momentarily. But Obito will revive him  with the rinne tensei at the end.

But he longer has his life to give thanks to Madara. He was already going to do it for the SA. But I guess kishi is keeping him "living" for a reason so maybe but its sounds so unoriginal.

Edited by Kster95, 17 January 2014 - 02:27 PM.

[六道仙人]

But he longer has his life to give thanks to Madara. He was already going to do it for the SA. But I guess kishi is keeping him "living" for a reason so maybe but its sounds so unoriginal.

 

He's still alive for a purpose. Black Zetsu is reclaiming his left rinnegan eye for a purpose. Kakashi and Minato are protecting him and his eye for a purpose. I wonder for what... Why does the author's procrastinating what it should be a formality (that is Madara recovers quickly the other eye)?

[sushi.]

If Obito wins against black zetsu, he might be able to revive Naruto.

[六道仙人]

If Minato and Kakashi win against black zetsu, Obito might be able to revive Naruto.

 

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[Inferno180]

I do still find it interesting how Kishi just decided to use Sakura's early background as the basis for kushinas background aside from coming from the uzumaki clan. I mean many years before, this scene in chapter 3 was just a shirt scene without much importance in the long run but because if the Kushina stuff, it then became an attributor scene as the basis for kushinas story early on with minato.

It's times like that when years ago. It was just written but then a past scene is in a way used to model another, I mean realistically speaking Kishi didn't even have Kushina in concept until maybe around a while before the itachi pursuit arc when we get a first mention of her before jiraya leaves tsunade to go to the rain village. If anything though, if ns was his long term pairing goal than using that with Kushina was a good way to attribute the scene to give a sense of a hint and déjà vu from what we saw way back in chapter 3 when naruto wanted to talk to sakura.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I wonder if Gaara got the answer or he is doing his best to not think that it's inevitable. You know, that feeling that it got to work this way, though someone else may tell him it's not going to work. Kind of like

 

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When Luffy asked Ivan to help him to recover Ace, doing that specialty, but told that it won't work and the end was here for Ace.

 

If he does get the answer, I wonder if he will make it. I can't imagine if he does go to Minato, Black Zetsu will just stand there. In fact, I can see him stalling before Naruto ultimately dies. Plus, I wonder if Gaara even know where is Minato at. I'm only speculating the idea of if Minato has the answer. I don't know if that's the answer, but again, speculation.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

u never know right. At this moment anything can happen .
And @redragon: i also dont see how putting the other half of kurama would save naruto but do u see any other option?
Here what i think naruto dies obito some how defeats black zetsu and performs rinne tensei to bring naruto back then minato can give the dark half of kurama to naruto. To keep on fighting
Mean while we also can get a NS moment.

 

True, you never really know, and there's probably a lot of possible ways this scenario could play out. I just don't want to become overzealous expecting something romantic to occur between Naruto and Sakura, I don't think it's going to be the 'right' time for it. I certainly expect some kind of reaction from Sakura soon, considering the situation and with Naruto very likely near death, and possibly some NS interaction to come of it, but not much more than that and nothing that would cement the pairing romantically.

[Akashi]

Looking back at Naruto's speech on regrets & the fact that he's about to die.. you guys thing we might get a confession scene? Or maybe the bench scene will be brought up?.. I'm no good at keeping my expectations low, I know.. ehehe~

[narulsaku]

 
True, you never really know, and there's probably a lot of possible ways this scenario could play out. I just don't want to become overzealous expecting something romantic to occur between Naruto and Sakura, I don't think it's going to be the 'right' time for it. I certainly expect some kind of reaction from Sakura soon, considering the situation and with Naruto very likely near death, and possibly some NS interaction to come of it, but not much more than that and nothing that would cement the pairing romantically.

humm yes i kinda agree but i am sure that we might get a ns moment here.

Looking back at Naruto's speech on regrets & the fact that he's about to die.. you guys thing we might get a confession scene? Or maybe the bench scene will be brought up?.. I'm no good at keeping my expectations low, I know.. ehehe~ 

i dont think that we ll get a confession or the bench scene here hay wait how come a bench can be in a battelfield what are u suppose to do study history !!"so as i was saying we wont get a confession. for NS ,true NS confession the best time is naruto vs sasuke final battle. Unless mr sauce gets back to village if kishi planning to get susuke back to village that ll be complete rubbish.

Edited by narulsaku, 17 January 2014 - 04:15 PM.

[Shashank95]

From the looks of it, granny Chiyo's Kinjutsu may come into play. The life transference she did on Sakura. But it's just another speculation.