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[Inferno180]

Well sure hinata confessed but if anything, what can be better for hinatas development is simple, stays happy for naruto, we see meaning perfect possibility and meaning for naruto loving sakura and sakura slowly turning away from Sasuke but hinatas for naruto has always been one way.

Still Sakura's panel from 615 is up for debate but the sole fact that it is the only one there in the speech sequence after hinata slaps naruto is suspicious. Also I don't think sakura would overall just hug naruto because she saw hinata confess, that's kinda a weak claim like many naruhina fans used in the past. However from the chapter sakura heals hinata that does lead to so thinking she could be jealous. Oddly enough when it comes to the love triangle only naruto and sakura know the 3 paths naruto knows that hinata loves him, he loves sakura, and sakura loves Sasuke. Though naruto does not know sakura is aware of this, she never mentioned it once and he still has no idea what sai said to her. Hinata only knows her love for naruto. Sakura however has her love of Sasuke, and knows how naruto feels about her and how hinata feels about naruto, yet sakura still has feelings for naruto despite not loving him and does display concern.

Many nh fans claim sakura does not love naruto, I would be more inclined to believe this if sakura had done some things differently rather than how Kishi portrayed it. I mean when she was healing hinata, I would have given naruhina more ground if sakura had instead smiled thinking it was good for someone like naruto, but instead she remains with that sad look on her face and thinks of naruto. Sakura does not dismiss naruto.

Also guess I must add, naruto cannot dump sakura and just go over to hinata, he would need closure to see where Sakura's feelings really are. When it comes to how sakura may feel for naruto and hinata feels for naruto, this would actually be taken care of first. Hinata can get some finality with naruto though in seeing where narutos feelings lay and maybe maturing over him, hinata incronically has the only direct resolution for closure or maturing away on her own. Naruto is fixed on Sasuke and cannot confess to sakura on his part, sakura is caught between naruto and Sasuke so her feelings for concern are still present. Basically only 2 moves can be made by hinata either getting resolution with naruto or finding her own way instead of coping naruto, and sakura has only one move, confront naruto about his feelings for her. Naruto cannot confront sakura due to the promise but he can confront hinata about the confession but not for love, at this point naruto would either result in sticking to his reasons for sakura or break his character for never giving up, give up on sakura, he gave up on something that breaks his character. He could give closure to hinata but sakura would need to give closure to naruto before he could actually move on, though I doubt this because on Sakura's part, returning to Sasuke is the bad road and contradictory to her character and just makes things completely absurd in this universe.

Hinata can mature or be happy for naruto loving sakura as I see it, that's the better way for her character to go because well again she is a minor character, if hinata needs anything it's to improve and stand on her own without naruto, a situation where she is not around him and gets up on her own not thinking about him even. Naruto cannot dump everything for hinata, does not work that way, especially when so much has been for sakura and sakura actually acknoldges his efforts and how he is always left to do the big stuff and now wants to resolve everything with him in the fight.

As much as naruhina fans want theirs to come true, it does not matter how much they chant or claim things against sakura, these things between naruto and sakura happened much more than hinata even made apperences in the manga, it's not all going to suddenly go away, it would be complete wastes of both their characters if it did. It's been put forward before and it will come back again especially when Sasuke enters the field and there are many elements for narusaku to come, the elements are all there Kishi just needs to decide if he wants his characters like that.

[FoolishYoungling]

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[Canadian_DJ]

Besides, i dont think sakura hugged naruto just to be an a** she hugged him because she truly cares and loves him, yeah i said it, not because of hinata.

@foolishyounglin' Lol satan

Edited by Canadian_DJ, 24 March 2013 - 02:02 PM.

[StrikerTheNoble]

Besides, i dont think sakura hugged naruto just to be an a** she hugged him because she truly cares and loves him, yeah i said it, not because of hinata.

@foolishyounglin' Lol satan

She would never do that. She is way to nice for that.

@foolishyoungling

Lets spam to hell so we get off this evil page.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Great post, Inferno180.

The problem is that Kishi developed NS too much to the point she can love Naruto and it will not be rushed nor come out of nowhere. Everything is set and pretty much all he needs to do is pull the trigger. If he stopped the developments for NS from end of part 1, perhaps it will be hard to defend our claims, because it can be seen as friendship only. However, when part 2 started, there were many developments between them, especially from Sakura's pov and when we get someone's pov who's not in love with someone, then that's surprising. Everything NH doesn't surprise me because Hinata already claimed it, so it's nothing new. However, for NS, when Sakura is doing the move, then it's shocking because she's not one who's in love with Naruto. So it begs the question: what is Kishi trying to say about NS?

About Pain Arc, again, if Sakura knows Hinata loves Naruto, why not support her. Why not tell her to hug him? Why not tell him to speak with Hinata? Why pretty much stole the glory by hugging him, even though it's not like she's saying, "Haha! Take that, Hinata," since this is her feelings for Naruto? Why even show her panels with her healing Hinata? He can just show it and let Katsuya tell them about the situation immediately. But no, we have a color page of her feeling concern about her and Naruto, with Naruto on panel. Why she will think that as well? She really image Naruto in her head, so it's bothering her. She didn't even say it out loud. It's like she has a problem with it. 615 is debatable and I will wait.

Lastly, again, I can see Hinata to move on out of the three (Naruto and Sakura) because even though she will like to get nice things from Naruto, that doesn't mean she wants all him to herself. Yes, she think about him, but if he has someone or someone who is even closer to him, she will pretty much pass the torch. Think as FT. Lisanna pretty much pass the torch to Lucy when it comes to Natsu but she's not that mad or even upset, just willing to accept it. Sakura is very emotional and her doing it will actually hurt her than heal. Actually, let's go quick example. If Hinata hugs Naruto, there's a good chance that Sakura won't be smiling in that panel. When Sakura hugs Naruto, Hinata is happy. That's what I mean. Hinata is fine, as long as Naruto is good.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

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@inferno180 about Sakura being jealous i dont think that this scene had an outcome i think she may feel sad because she didnt loved Naruto, Naruto's panel on her mind was of him smiling while Sasuke is involved on dark flames.
Well and another things is like most of the fanbase claim that Naruto and Sakura interactions are natural and without asspull would not be Sakura raction of jealously on 615 if this theory is true would not feel an asspull? would not kishi forcing Narusaku with a scene that was an huge asspull and full of contradictions?
People say that Narusaku has quality but i dont see quality on Sakura being jealous of Hinata other than mere asspull.

The only good things for Narusaku on that scene that was Kishimoto completely destroyed NH because if we follow their logic which is "Naruto can never be with Sakura because he would be selfish to be with her because she tried to sacrifice her life two times for him for love.".
When he made the two scenes something completely based on friendship and non-romantic from Naruto's POAL.
For me NH died on 615.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 24 March 2013 - 02:34 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

@inferno180 about Sakura being jealous i dont think that this scene had an outcome i think she may feel sad because she didnt loved Naruto, Naruto's panel on her mind was of him smiling while Sasuke is involved on dark flames.
Well and another things is like most of the fanbase claim that Naruto and Sakura interactions are natural and without asspull would not be Sakura raction of jealously on 615 if this theory is true would not feel an asspull? would not kishi forcing Narusaku with a scene that was an huge asspull and full of contradictions?
People say that Narusaku has quality but i dont see quality on Sakura being jealous of Hinata other than mere asspull.

The only good things for Narusaku on that scene that was Kishimoto completely destroyed NH because if we follow their logic which is "Naruto can never be with Sakura because he would be selfish to be with her because she tried to sacrifice her life two times for him for love.".
When he made the two scenes something completely based on friendship and non-romantic from Naruto's POAL.
For me NH died on 615.

Died on 615? Interesting. I want to know how so to you. Not doubting, I'm actually curious. Granted there are others that say NH died on whatever event, but I would like to know your take.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Died on 615? Interesting. I want to know how so to you. Not doubting, I'm actually curious. Granted there are others that say NH died on whatever event, but I would like to know your take.

It's because she tried to sacrifice herself two times because of love, she jumped on Pain to help Naruto because of love and even on 614 she did the same things to protect Naruto
Then Neji comes and say that everyone would do the same things and on 615 Naruto realizes that she did the two things because of friendship.

So Naruto would not be selfish if he be with Sakura despite Hinata's sacrifices the best to short is that, he sees her only as a friend, and her sacrifice and the two parts were the NH fandom claims that it make Nh canon like "Hinata's declaration" and "615" thanks to Neji it got downgraded to friendship moments.
Then NH died because Naruto now sees those sacrifices attempts not a display of undying and genuine love but as friendship/comrade moments.

[Inferno180]

I'm okay with having Sakura's shift be gradual to Naruto if things go that way, I've even said that Sakura cannot just go loving Naruto, it would take some big event or realization on her part, with someone else, or directly with Naruto. I personally think the story is better if Sakura has to in some way struggle with it before maturing herself and coming to terms with how she feels about Naruto. Much better than Naruto just going "hey I guess I love Hinata now," as many NaruHina fans would want it.

[StriderC]

I'm okay with having Sakura's shift be gradual to Naruto if things go that way, I've even said that Sakura cannot just go loving Naruto, it would take some big event or realization on her part, with someone else, or directly with Naruto. I personally think the story is better if Sakura has to in some way struggle with it before maturing herself and coming to terms with how she feels about Naruto. Much better than Naruto just going "hey I guess I love Hinata now," as many NaruHina fans would want it.

I definitely agree with you here. I want to see a struggle given she's the only girl in the series who's actually really gotten this far in a love triangle. I truly think her actually seeing this event with Hinata and Naruto will trigger something with Sakura. I really wouldn't be surprised.

[HauntedCake]

@inferno180 about Sakura being jealous i dont think that this scene had an outcome i think she may feel sad because she didnt loved Naruto, Naruto's panel on her mind was of him smiling while Sasuke is involved on dark flames.
Well and another things is like most of the fanbase claim that Naruto and Sakura interactions are natural and without asspull would not be Sakura raction of jealously on 615 if this theory is true would not feel an asspull? would not kishi forcing Narusaku with a scene that was an huge asspull and full of contradictions?
People say that Narusaku has quality but i dont see quality on Sakura being jealous of Hinata other than mere asspull.

The only good things for Narusaku on that scene that was Kishimoto completely destroyed NH because if we follow their logic which is "Naruto can never be with Sakura because he would be selfish to be with her because she tried to sacrifice her life two times for him for love.".
When he made the two scenes something completely based on friendship and non-romantic from Naruto's POAL.
For me NH died on 615.

I don't think Sakura being jealous at this point would be an asspull at all. I don't think it's jealously as such, but definatly sadness that she might be loosing Naruto to Hinata because she see's Hinata doing everything that she should of done herself. But the anchor being Sasuke stops her from doing anything useful for Naruto.

Thats cruicial - Sasuke is stopping Sakura from doing anything for Naruto, including any feelings she has developed for him. Which is why she seems to be Useless when it comes to love and feelings with Naruto.

Some people don't think that Sakura loves Naruto. But surely she does?

[TouKen4Life3g]

It's because she tried to sacrifice herself two times because of love, she jumped on Pain to help Naruto because of love and even on 614 she did the same things to protect Naruto
Then Neji comes and say that everyone would do the same things and on 615 Naruto realizes that she did the two things because of friendship.

So Naruto would not be selfish if he be with Sakura despite Hinata's sacrifices the best to short is that, he sees her only as a friend, and her sacrifice and the two parts were the NH fandom claims that it make Nh canon like "Hinata's declaration" and "615" thanks to Neji it got downgraded to friendship moments.
Then NH died because Naruto now sees those sacrifices attempts not a display of undying and genuine love but as friendship/comrade moments.

That's...a good assumption. Hm, you do make a point. I guess all of us just need one NS moment at this point for us to say it's dead. I guess I missed it.

[StriderC]

I don't think Sakura being jealous at this point would be an asspull at all. I don't think it's jealously as such, but definatly sadness that she might be loosing Naruto to Hinata because she see's Hinata doing everything that she should of done herself. But the anchor being Sasuke stops her from doing anything useful for Naruto.

Thats cruicial - Sasuke is stopping Sakura from doing anything for Naruto, including any feelings she has developed for him. Which is why she seems to be Useless when it comes to love and feelings with Naruto.

Some people don't think that Sakura loves Naruto. But surely she does?

I don't think it would either, nor would her being sad or anything of the like revolving around NH interaction. It'd give us a feel for her actual feelings, and it'd canonilize *LMAO, I know that's not a word but it sounds good* where her feelings lie and bury SS for good.

[Canadian_DJ]

I will save us from this page!!!!

*pokemon battle theme* Darn it! Two sneak attacks weren't enough!

Edited by Canadian_DJ, 24 March 2013 - 04:07 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I don't think Sakura being jealous at this point would be an asspull at all. I don't think it's jealously as such, but definatly sadness that she might be loosing Naruto to Hinata because she see's Hinata doing everything that she should of done herself. But the anchor being Sasuke stops her from doing anything useful for Naruto.

Thats cruicial - Sasuke is stopping Sakura from doing anything for Naruto, including any feelings she has developed for him. Which is why she seems to be Useless when it comes to love and feelings with Naruto.

Some people don't think that Sakura loves Naruto. But surely she does?

I think that Kishi started giving hints that he will develop NS on 615 first he buried the only obstacle that NH had that was the sacrifice attempts and made them seem that as friendship moments from Naruto's point of view, now there will be a moment of clash between Naruto and Sasuke on the end of this arc which i do believe will set a lot of things in motion and may even make Sakura do a decision about what she really wants.

About Sakura she does not love Naruto to a point that she can say "Im in love with Naruto" she didnt get over her feelings for Sasuke and i do believe with her experience on the battlefield and the loss of her teacher (Tsunade) she can say that Sasuke is wrong and choose Naruto's side not because she deeply cares about him but because she's capable now of understand both Naruto and Sasuke.

And then going to train Sage mode and become stronger than Naruto.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 24 March 2013 - 04:07 PM.

[StrikerTheNoble]

Sakura is here to save us from this page:

And when shes done with that

EDIT: This evil is powerfull

Edited by StrikerTheNoble, 24 March 2013 - 04:09 PM.

[Canadian_DJ]

How long will it take... to reach page 667

[narulsaku]

wow you guys are really talking that sakuras looks in 614 and15 seems like she was jelous. ho funny that thought. who ever said that cant you see her face it seems more like sadness than jelousy. i think she was looking at the field where everyone were half dead. or dead.

[StrikerTheNoble]

Help us Sakura.


This time it better work.

EDIT: WERE FREE.
EDIT 2: Got ninjad by NarulSaku, damm you.

Edited by StrikerTheNoble, 24 March 2013 - 04:11 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

wow you guys are really talking that sakuras looks in 614 and15 seems like she was jelous. ho funny that thought. who ever said that cant you see her face it seems more like sadness than jelousy. i think she was looking at the field where everyone were half dead. or dead.

I thought the same but i do think she was looking at Obito, because she was shown right after Obito's offer and her expression she was deeply shocked i do think she was feeling that Naruto was going to give up because if Naruto give up she's the first person who will suffer the most, this panel showed how deeply Naruto and Sakura are connected.

Help us Sakura.


This time it better work.

EDIT: WERE FREE.
EDIT 2: Got ninjad by NarulSaku, damm you.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 24 March 2013 - 04:16 PM.