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#13261 Kster95

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 12:02 AM

 

This is actually a very good point. People keep saying that Naruto simply needs to insert the other half of Kurama inside him in order to recover, but if we go by what happened with Kushina that won't do any good. Naruto would still die anyway and temporarily seal the other Kurama in his body for a while, just like Kushina originally planned to do.

 

Since a simple pass along of the other Kurama won't do any good then what other possible options exist?

 

I dont know, I feel if the bijuu wants to go in, it will not killl the Jin. Just look when Naruto wasnt friends with kuruma, his body would take damage from Kuruma's chakra but now that he is friends with him, there is no damage with his body. 


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Posted 17 January 2014 - 02:58 AM

 
I don't really see anything like that happening. Maybe it's my inner cynic talking but I'm not pinning my hopes on any NaruSaku moments right now, not anything explicitly romantic anyway, pairing moments never seem to happen when or how people quite expect them to so I'm kind of wary about trying to predict them. And perhaps I'm being nitpicky, but I'm not much fond of the "Sakura can't live without him" part, it makes her sound needy and helpless. I don't care for female characters being made out like they need a man to have a purpose in life, I would hope if Naruto did actually die (which is highly unlikely but just speaking theoretically) that Sakura would continue on to lead a meaningful life like he would want her to.
 
 
 Personally, I don't believe getting medical treatment is enough, regardless of any special vitality Naruto may have inherited from his mother. Kushina was still dying, even if it didn't happen right away, and if medical treatment was all it would have taken to save her I see no reason why she wouldn't have sought it out, so that her son would not grow up an orphan. But she didn't and there was no mention made of it, so I can only conclude that her death was a forgone conclusion no matter what.

u never know right. At this moment anything can happen .
And @redragon: i also dont see how putting the other half of kurama would save naruto but do u see any other option?
Here what i think naruto dies obito some how defeats black zetsu and performs rinne tensei to bring naruto back then minato can give the dark half of kurama to naruto. To keep on fighting
Mean while we also can get a NS moment.

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 03:09 AM

What Up Everybody!!! I'm New Here to the forum and have been following your discussions over the recent naruto chapters and wanted to give my opinion on the matter. I am also a fellow narusaku shipper as well so No Bad Blood Here!!! >XD

Now from what I have been reading from you guys there are two possible situations for naruto's possible recovery from the extraction.

1: Gaara Brings Him To Sakura To Heal Him
2: Gaara brings him to Minato so that he can transfer the the other half of kuramas chakra to him

Now For The reasons why these two won't work
1: When a Bijuu Is Extracted The Jinchurriki Dies Cause the bijuus are a large amounts of chakra and once extracted it's like a huge strain on the jinchurrikis body and spirit for them to bear.
2: Sakura may be a Great Healer but only on physical injuries!!! She hasn't ever done anything on the paranormal level (she even checked gaara after he was extracted and couldn't do anything for him)
3: Transfering another kurama into him isn't gonna help either cause if it did work then Madara would capture the chakra again and naruto would be In the same situation again.

So Now For The Reason I'm Here Is Cause I Thought Of a New Way From These Two Outcomes And Wanted To Get All Of Your Opinions On It.

What if Instead of healing or Transfering.........that They Combine and Fuse The Other Kurama And Naruto's Chakra Into An Entirely New Being??

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 05:22 AM

What Up Everybody!!! I'm New Here to the forum and have been following your discussions over the recent naruto chapters and wanted to give my opinion on the matter. I am also a fellow narusaku shipper as well so No Bad Blood Here!!! >XD

Now from what I have been reading from you guys there are two possible situations for naruto's possible recovery from the extraction.

1: Gaara Brings Him To Sakura To Heal Him
2: Gaara brings him to Minato so that he can transfer the the other half of kuramas chakra to him

Now For The reasons why these two won't work
1: When a Bijuu Is Extracted The Jinchurriki Dies Cause the bijuus are a large amounts of chakra and once extracted it's like a huge strain on the jinchurrikis body and spirit for them to bear.
2: Sakura may be a Great Healer but only on physical injuries!!! She hasn't ever done anything on the paranormal level (she even checked gaara after he was extracted and couldn't do anything for him)
3: Transfering another kurama into him isn't gonna help either cause if it did work then Madara would capture the chakra again and naruto would be In the same situation again.

So Now For The Reason I'm Here Is Cause I Thought Of a New Way From These Two Outcomes And Wanted To Get All Of Your Opinions On It.

What if Instead of healing or Transfering.........that They Combine and Fuse The Other Kurama And Naruto's Chakra Into An Entirely New Being??

 

Healing him would work. Kushina would have survived had she not saved Naruto. Kushina was a full Uzumaki and survived  extraction  of 100% kuruma, Naruto is half uzumaki so he should survive extraction of 50% kuruma. 


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Posted 17 January 2014 - 05:42 AM

I find it ironic that had Sasuke not left, it's very likely Sakura wouldn't have fallen in love with Naruto. 

Seems like enough people have commented on this, but just to add another Sakura still had feelings for Sasuke after he left, so I dont' think him staying or leaving mattered, NS is inevitable :)



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Posted 17 January 2014 - 07:35 AM

Kster95: Yeah That Does Make Sense But Seeing As How The Manga Is Going And How Kishi Is Going Through it, I Think He Is Going To Make The "Revival" A Lot More Complicated Then Just Healing. Can't Ignore His Track Record On Being With The Complications XD lol

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 08:53 AM

What Up Everybody!!! I'm New Here to the forum and have been following your discussions over the recent naruto chapters and wanted to give my opinion on the matter. I am also a fellow narusaku shipper as well so No Bad Blood Here!!! >XD

Now from what I have been reading from you guys there are two possible situations for naruto's possible recovery from the extraction.

1: Gaara Brings Him To Sakura To Heal Him
2: Gaara brings him to Minato so that he can transfer the the other half of kuramas chakra to him

Now For The reasons why these two won't work
1: When a Bijuu Is Extracted The Jinchurriki Dies Cause the bijuus are a large amounts of chakra and once extracted it's like a huge strain on the jinchurrikis body and spirit for them to bear.
2: Sakura may be a Great Healer but only on physical injuries!!! She hasn't ever done anything on the paranormal level (she even checked gaara after he was extracted and couldn't do anything for him)
3: Transfering another kurama into him isn't gonna help either cause if it did work then Madara would capture the chakra again and naruto would be In the same situation again.

So Now For The Reason I'm Here Is Cause I Thought Of a New Way From These Two Outcomes And Wanted To Get All Of Your Opinions On It.

What if Instead of healing or Transfering.........that They Combine and Fuse The Other Kurama And Naruto's Chakra Into An Entirely New Being??

umm hi welcome to h&e hope u would enjoy. Now as u said healing wont work i dis agree as kster said kushina would have been saved if she wouldnt have died completely by kurama. And in the same way naruto wont die i guess . I know i cuts my previous post that naruto dies and yada yada but if he gets proper amount of chkra and healing power he would be recovered. And also i dis agree that after inseting the dark kurama again madara would extart it . Do u actually believe that naruto would let that happen that easily !!!???? and biju mode does the same thing u said in the end u know fuse naruto and kuramas chakra. He even fused kurama and sage mode. So i think that wont do any different thing

. Kushina was a full Uzumaki and survived  extraction  of 100% kuruma, Naruto is half uzumaki so he should survive extraction of 50% kuruma. 


i honestly dont see any logic . But yes as naruto is half uzumaki i guess that might happen :P

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 08:57 AM

i honestly dont see any logic . But yes as naruto is half uzumaki i guess that might happen :P

 

Well it probably doesnt work that way but yeah since he is an uzumaki he will survive it. 


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Posted 17 January 2014 - 09:05 AM

Am I the only here who feels that, in the long run, the fake confession was pointless? I love Sakura to death, but there's really no convincing me that the kitten was absolutely necessary. Something about it will ALWAYS rub me the wrong way, regardless of Sakura's intentions



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Posted 17 January 2014 - 09:09 AM

Narulsaku: Ok I can Understand That X). I Didn't Mean To Let It Sound Like That Naruto Was Already dead. He is Kushinas Son So Yeah He'll Still Be Alive But Barely. Now As For The Fusing Thing (Bijuu mode), what I was thinking was something similar to DBZ Fusion (without the dance of coarse -__- lol) if They somehow fused the other kurama and naruto then they could make him into something other then a Jinchurriki!!! Think about it..........
1:He Can Transform Into Bijuu Mode Anytime he wants so long he has stored enough chakra.
2: He No Longer Has To Worry About Extraction Cause he Doesn't Have A Bijuu In Him cause He's Like Bijuu Himself!!!
3: And For the Sake Of Giving Him More Firepower With His Fight With Sasuke.......when He Saves Kurama, maybe Kurama Would Let Naruto Summon Him Like Madara Did And Then Naruto Goes Bijuu Mode and BOOM!!! Two Back To Back Nine Tails In the Flesh!!!!

Sorry Bout That XD I Like To Think These Things A lot In Detail lol. If I Come Out Dumb Or Ignorant about The Facts When Talking About This Stuff I'm Really Really Sorry XD lol

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 09:12 AM

Am I the only here who feels that, in the long run, the fake confession was pointless? I love Sakura to death, but there's really no convincing me that the kitten was absolutely necessary. Something about it will ALWAYS rub me the wrong way, regardless of Sakura's intentions

 

Kishi kind of did it wrong in a way. He had good intentions with it but it sort of came out wrong well at least for the Naruto fandom who sort of hated Sakura for playing with Naruto's feelings. Most ppl find it anti-Narusaku but its more pro-Narusaku because it just showed Sakura putting Naruto ahead of her love for Sasuke. Kishi did say he tried portraying Sakura in an honest way and most ppl didnt see it that way. Honestly he gave Sakura the kitten end of the stick in confession, Hinata confessed while risking her life for Naruto and then he does this thing with Sakura that shows her lying to Naruto, I mean she really did have good intentions but it was portrayed wrong. 


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Posted 17 January 2014 - 09:21 AM

Am I the only here who feels that, in the long run, the fake confession was pointless? I love Sakura to death, but there's really no convincing me that the kitten was absolutely necessary. Something about it will ALWAYS rub me the wrong way, regardless of Sakura's intentions

Maybe the fact that you believe she didn't mean it and thats something that in real life you probably wouldn't want to happen with you with the Girl of your dreams. I don't think it was pointless though because for some reason, thanks to the confession and the reasoning of Sai, Naruto got more confident when it comes to Sakura-Chan imo.


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Posted 17 January 2014 - 09:22 AM

Am I the only here who feels that, in the long run, the fake confession was pointless? I love Sakura to death, but there's really no convincing me that the kitten was absolutely necessary. Something about it will ALWAYS rub me the wrong way, regardless of Sakura's intentions

kster95 said it the best.b

but I think we should she the bigger picture in that arc instead we focus on sakura.

at that time is team seven lowest point.

sasuke goes crazy

naruto throw away his pride(as a hero)

and sakura fake confession.

but it all goes well(sort of) for the three of them because it will solve in the last arc.

 

regarding sakura fake confession I always make comparision with itachi sacrifice. 



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Posted 17 January 2014 - 11:37 AM

 

Healing him would work. Kushina would have survived had she not saved Naruto. Kushina was a full Uzumaki and survived  extraction  of 100% kuruma, Naruto is half uzumaki so he should survive extraction of 50% kuruma. 

 

Kushina was going to die no matter what. Why do you think Minato suggested that he would transfer the last of Kushina's chakra into Naruto so that she could meet him when he grew up?

 

If Kushina was able to live then Minato would've sacrificed himself and let Kushina raise Naruto on her own.



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Posted 17 January 2014 - 11:42 AM

 

Kushina was going to die no matter what. Why do you think Minato suggested that he would transfer the last of Kushina's chakra into Naruto so that she could meet him when he grew up?

 

If Kushina was able to live then Minato would've sacrificed himself and let Kushina raise Naruto on her own.

 

This was all said after they both took the hit from Kuruma...He was going to sacrifice himself and let her live with Naruto but they both stepped in. Had Kushina not got involved after Minato saved her, she would have survived. Also add in the factor that she just did go through child birth. Naruto is an uzumaki and did have a child so his chances are much higher than Kushinas. 


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Posted 17 January 2014 - 12:46 PM

 

This was all said after they both took the hit from Kuruma...He was going to sacrifice himself and let her live with Naruto but they both stepped in. Had Kushina not got involved after Minato saved her, she would have survived. Also add in the factor that she just did go through child birth. Naruto is an uzumaki and did have a child so his chances are much higher than Kushinas. 

You don't know that. Kushina was the one that was going to sacrifice herself. She made a goodbye-speech to Minato, and planned to die with Kurama sealed inside her. All before he stabbed them.

 

I agree with reddragon. Either Kishi introduces a new jutsu, or..well it's not like we've never seen a plothole before.


Edited by sushi., 17 January 2014 - 12:46 PM.

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 12:56 PM

 

This was all said after they both took the hit from Kuruma...He was going to sacrifice himself and let her live with Naruto but they both stepped in. Had Kushina not got involved after Minato saved her, she would have survived. Also add in the factor that she just did go through child birth. Naruto is an uzumaki and did have a child so his chances are much higher than Kushinas. 

 

Dude...

 

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Does it look like she's impaled?

 

How about you see the manga panels before talking about facts.



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Posted 17 January 2014 - 12:56 PM

You don't know that. Kushina was the one that was going to sacrifice herself. She made a goodbye-speech to Minato, and planned to die with Kurama sealed inside her. All before he stabbed them.

 

I agree with reddragon. Either Kishi introduces a new jutsu, or..well it's not like we've never seen a plothole before.

 

I dont know, childbirth and Bijuu extraction and she still lived, had she had medical assistance I am pretty sure she would have survived. 

 

 

Dude...

 

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Does it look like she's impaled?

 

How about you see the manga panels before talking about facts.

 

Yeah and how about you see that I crossed out that part. 


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Posted 17 January 2014 - 01:00 PM

 

Yeah and how about you see that I crossed out that part. 

 

Don't get snappy just because I proved you wrong.

 

Kushina was going to die no matter what, it's just that as an Uzumaki it would take her longer to do so. The evidence is right there.



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Posted 17 January 2014 - 01:05 PM

 

Don't get snappy just because I proved you wrong.

 

Kushina was going to die no matter what, it's just that as an Uzumaki it would take her longer to do so. The evidence is right there.

 

Actually I proved myself wrong before you proved me wrong. So I kinda corrected myself. :P Sorry didnt mean to get "snappy" OK but it is also true that chakra is used during child birth, so had Kushina extracted the kyuubi without giving birth to Naruto, I am sure she would have had enough chakra to survive with medical assistance. Like the situation Naruto is in right now. 


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