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#13261 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 03:33 AM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Mar 23 2013, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If it comes down to it, I can see her helping but in the end, I think she'd be like Naruto was with she and Sasuke.

Heartbroken and all? That's what I see from her. You know in Bleach, Orihime seems like she's happy, but in reality, she's hurt because of Ichigo and Rukia as in Ichigo being alive with her around. For Sakura, it will be that Hinata did nothing wrong while Sakura feels that she has done terrible things for Naruto and continues to be a burden. Again, she doesn't know if her feelings for him is strong until she realized it.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 03:43 AM

QUOTE (Beastbomb @ Mar 24 2013, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I will admit, Naruto's comment about Sasuke and him dying together has me more rattled than any other pairing. I'm not afraid that it won't happen, but that little comment put me a little on edge. Makes you think about the outcome of the story and what Kishi may be planing. headscratch.gif I can tell that I am not the only one with doubts though.

yes dude you are not you think kishi is planing to kill naruto then it ll leave a bad message i am sure enough that he wont ruin his works of nearly 10 years.

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#13263 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 03:50 AM

Honestly, that comment is going to be brought up again, because Sakura knows it and it really concerns her a lot. It's on hold when his time to fight Sasuke arrives. Here's the thing, because of that, NS has the edge because she can only ask Naruto about it, not Sasuke. They have stuff to settle than SS, which only leaves one last conclusion. NS on the other hand has the confession, the comment, and Naruto's confession. Naruto/Sakura is the couple who will have a calm before storm moment. Honestly, NS have a lot of open ended that need to be addressed, that NS pretty much seal it.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 03:51 AM

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Sorry but I did edit my post. sweatdrop.gif

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 23 2013, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Heartbroken and all? That's what I see from her. You know in Bleach, Orihime seems like she's happy, but in reality, she's hurt because of Ichigo and Rukia as in Ichigo being alive with her around. For Sakura, it will be that Hinata did nothing wrong while Sakura feels that she has done terrible things for Naruto and continues to be a burden. Again, she doesn't know if her feelings for him is strong until she realized it.


What do you mean about Ichigo and Rukia as far I known there was no pairing being confirmed in Bleach, did that change or something. headscratch.gif
The thing is that I'm a Bleach Anime fan not the Manga, Naruto is the Only Manga I currently read since the Anime team is heavily biased to a point where they keep me away from Naruto Anime.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 03:55 AM

QUOTE (narulsaku @ Mar 23 2013, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes dude you are not you think kishi is planing to kill naruto then it ll leave a bad message i am sure enough that he wont ruin his works of nearly 10 years.


Doesn't necessarily mean that sacrificing the main chracter is destroying the plot of the story either if it's done right... Sacrificing yourself for the sake of others deserves the highest respect from anyone. I could see an ending where Naruto may sacrifice himself during the battle with Sauske. Killing Naruto off is a different approach than what I was thinking. Sacrificing himself for the village or even Sakura wouldn't kill the story, but show the amount of love he may has/have for either of the two. I agree that Naruto most likely will not die because of the amount of work that Kishi has put into creating his character, but there is always that small possiblity that Kishi could take that route....

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 03:58 AM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Mar 23 2013, 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@StriderC
Sorry but I did edit my post. sweatdrop.gif



What do you mean about Ichigo and Rukia as far I known there was no pairing being confirmed in Bleach, did that change or something. headscratch.gif
The thing is that I'm a Bleach Anime fan not the Manga, Naruto is the Only Manga I currently read since the Anime team is heavily biased to a point where they keep me away from Naruto Anime.

They're not a couple, but Orihime feels that Ichigo without Rukia will be no Ichigo. With her, he's happy. They may not be together, but it doesn't help her at all. It could be the same for Sakura but instead of Naruto being happy with Hinata, it's more that Hinata is suited better than her, which it's not true.

I imagine that Sakura telling Naruto everything that she believe that Naruto will better off but at the same time in tears. Naruto will see her sad and Naruto goes all drama heavy on her and then, she will feel much better and more. It won't happen, but I'm only grabbing examples from another anime.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 04:02 AM

@beastbomb-- i got what you are saying but even if naruto sacrifices himself for sakura or the village , it ll give a bad message. like naruto dreamt to become the greatest hokage like minato and the greatest shinobi like kushina, he promised nagato and jiraya, and he ll promise to obito and madar to to bring peace to the world. he dreamt to get sakura so if he dies every one of the dreams will die with him then the manga will be ruined dont you think?

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 04:04 AM

QUOTE (narulsaku @ Mar 24 2013, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@beastbomb-- i got what you are saying but even if naruto sacrifices himself for sakura or the village , it ll give a bad message. like naruto dreamt to become the greatest hokage like minato and the greatest shinobi like kushina, he promised nagato and jiraya, and he ll promise to obito and madar to to bring peace to the world. he dreamt to get sakura so if he dies every one of the dreams will die with him then the manga will be ruined dont you think?

Extremely doubt he will die. I think it was made to make Sakura interact with Naruto. Out of K11, only she knows.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 04:08 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 23 2013, 11:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They're not a couple, but Orihime feels that Ichigo without Rukia will be no Ichigo. With her, he's happy. They may not be together, but it doesn't help her at all. It could be the same for Sakura but instead of Naruto being happy with Hinata, it's more that Hinata is suited better than her, which it's not true.

I imagine that Sakura telling Naruto everything that she believe that Naruto will better off but at the same time in tears. Naruto will see her sad and Naruto goes all drama heavy on her and then, she will feel much better and more. It won't happen, but I'm only grabbing examples from another anime.


You're stepping in to Romance territory, the only time Sakura will be brought to tears if something like the 2011 OVA happens otherwise is just wishful thinking.
The most I can see if she does is asking him if he knows Hinata really likes him.

IF Kishi stays with the full Shonen and NS is the preferred couple Hinata will be ignored by her acknowledging Naruto's feelings for Sakura and vise verse, but if Kishi wants to expand this, then Sakura knows that Naruto loves her and she also knows that Hinata loves Naruto so for a better resolution she will want to know how Naruto feels about her by asking her about his feelings for Hinata, after all she is a Tsundere.

Edited by Don-kun, 24 March 2013 - 04:14 AM.


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Posted 24 March 2013 - 04:08 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 24 2013, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Extremely doubt he will die. I think it was made to make Sakura interact with Naruto. Out of K11, only she knows.

ummmm what!!!???

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 04:14 AM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Mar 24 2013, 12:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're stepping in to Romance category, the only time Sakura will be brought to tears if something like the 2011 OVA happens otherwise is just wishful thinking.
The most I can see if she does is asking him if he knows Hinata really likes him.

I did say it won't happen. I'm only grabbing examples. Then again, I think it came from Shounen category. Odd...

QUOTE (narulsaku @ Mar 24 2013, 12:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ummmm what!!!???

Naruto's comment makes her happy but the one moment that shocked her is the comment of dying together. Kakashi seems like he understands since he's that kind of guy that will do that. After all, he's like a real ninja. I know it's long time ago, but he really aims for kills while Naruto aims for reasons when it comes to enemy. Sakura knows what his determination and no one in Konoha knows about it. This comment is in her mind. That's why I believe that comment is there for Sakura to ask Naruto.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 04:21 AM

QUOTE (narulsaku @ Mar 23 2013, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@beastbomb-- i got what you are saying but even if naruto sacrifices himself for sakura or the village , it ll give a bad message. like naruto dreamt to become the greatest hokage like minato and the greatest shinobi like kushina, he promised nagato and jiraya, and he ll promise to obito and madar to to bring peace to the world. he dreamt to get sakura so if he dies every one of the dreams will die with him then the manga will be ruined dont you think?


I really hope that Naruto gets rid of Madara and obito. They've caused the deaths of hundreds of shinobi, mabye even thousands. Forgiving them would take a lot of willpower. Last part about the dreams of peace and the peace promises did however, slip my mind. Probably should have thought about it more before i posted.

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Having Naruto say that about him and Sasuke dying together to bring about a future NS interaction is a very good point. Never thought about it that way. Brings a different perspective that seems to be possible now that i think about it.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 04:30 AM

QUOTE (Beastbomb @ Mar 24 2013, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really hope that Naruto gets rid of Madara and obito. They've caused the deaths of hundreds of shinobi, mabye even thousands. Forgiving them would take a lot of willpower. Last part about the dreams of peace and the peace promises did however, slip my mind. Probably should have thought about it more before i posted.

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Having Naruto say that about him and Sasuke dying together to bring about a future NS interaction is a very good point. Never thought about it that way. Brings a different perspective that seems to be possible now that i think about it.

Good to see you here. happy.gif I got fans here. Lol. I'm kidding. But seriously, that line is important to her and of course, Naruto will interact with her since Sasuke is not there to say anything, so huge disadvantage for SS.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 04:32 AM

@beastbomb--dont worry it happens. well about madara and obito yes they have caused a lot of trouble but i dont think that naruto ll kill them. more like the pain arc. i think they ll sacrifice themself making everyone alive again.
@narusaku4life3g--
yes thats actually interesting but still can it boost ns

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 06:22 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 23 2013, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Heartbroken and all? That's what I see from her. You know in Bleach, Orihime seems like she's happy, but in reality, she's hurt because of Ichigo and Rukia as in Ichigo being alive with her around. For Sakura, it will be that Hinata did nothing wrong while Sakura feels that she has done terrible things for Naruto and continues to be a burden. Again, she doesn't know if her feelings for him is strong until she realized it.


I actually loved that bit about Orihime because it added to her character. The fact that she was jealous before, and it was something she had to overcome, and it was then realized that Ichigo needs both she and Rukia. It's partially why I think Ichigo will end up with no one but given the development both sides have, I wouldn't mind either one since they're both legit, but I love IH more though. Her confession was touching, and her belief in him reminds me of NS in a way. It's quite amazing. I will say I don't think she's jealous of him being around Rukia anymore. In fact, there's really no telling what Kubo will do with the couple choices. I seriously think no couple will happen to be honest but who knows. I'm still rooting for IH!

But I'd actually welcome a jealous Sakura to be honest because I want to know how she'd deal with it, and it'd give us a new dynamic on her character in the manga. And as for the bolded, I feel that's what would be key here. Sakura caused Naruto pain and so she may feel that she doesn't want to cause him anymore pain. She acknowledges her feelings for Naruto, but decides not to pursue them because she doesn't want to hurt him anymore.


Edited by StriderC, 24 March 2013 - 06:25 AM.


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Posted 24 March 2013 - 10:07 AM

QUOTE (T XD @ Mar 23 2013, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, but in the overall Naruto fandom, don't you think she comes in third or second place ?

On the contrary, the overall popularity character poll has sakura in 6th position adding up to the most recent poll with 11, 557 votes, hinata didn't even make it in the top ten, that alone speaks volume, hinata isn't even liked in japan, heck my chinese friend BARELY knows anything about naruto so I wanted to do a little experiment and aske her about what people think of the pink haired girl in naruto (since she barely knows any names in naruto XD) and she told me that sakura is really liked in china and that japanese otaku's came to their school and cosplayed and she told me that they really like sakura, then I asked her about the girl with no pupils, if she was liked she said "mmn no.." confused.gif

Bottom line, sakura is the most popular female character in naruto.

And I agree with darkrerst about people taking hinata seriously and her being an obstacle for narusaku, sakura is NOT gonna say "naruto you deserve hinata" or "hinatas better than me she deserves you im nothing" please people c'mon confused.gif really? You seriously think kishi is gonna do something like that? Well I for one truly believe kishi isn't gonna address hinatas feelings anymore, he's done with her thats it, shes not gonna get any closure with naruto about her feelings cuz they were never significant to the story, hinata is going to move on by just fading in the background as usual, she already knows that naruto and sakura have a thing going on due to the hug, that kishi portrayed in 540, that was kishis way of making hinata know that naruto and sakura are the real deal, and she looked darn happy with that smile on her face.

Naruto and sakuras relationship is beautiful, and I dont think kishi'll ruin it by popin' in some hinata-drama, or by portraying a jealous sakura, sorry but thats just BS, not trying to be rude.Sakura's the only girl thats been by narutoe side and had mutual moments with him, so I think it would be darn stupid for her to be jealous.She might've been bothered or whatever but definetly not jealous.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 10:39 AM

She acknowledged Hinata's love for Naruto in the Pain arc, and her reaction on the whole matter was hugging Naruto in front of everybody ( Hinata included). Not saying that she did it only out of sheer jealousy but when she saw Naruto after the incident she didn't see to give a rat's ass about Hinata's feelings towards Naruto.

Sakura is more focused than Hinata and knows Naruto better but still her training is to stand back and take care of wounds and Hinata is a close range fighter and could stay closer to Naruto, coupled with the fact that Hinata tries to be like Naruto was better at giving him back his resolve. Also her reaction in the panel wasn't to the hand holding, in fact after the hand holding she disappeared but was she saw was Neji's death, Naruto losing resolve and also Hinata slapping Naruto and probably heard Hinata's speech.

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Naruto and sakuras relationship is beautiful, and I dont think kishi'll ruin it by popin' in some hinata-drama.


He already did when he created Hinata, and making her go and try to be a human shield for Naruto twice. But it seems to be the only thing Kishi is trying to develop on the Hinata Naruto relationship line. I don't see her coming and stepping in when Naruto fights Sasuke. There will be some more Hinata development and then we will see if Kishi trolled us or NH fans.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 10:50 AM

QUOTE (Beastbomb @ Mar 24 2013, 02:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I kinda of agree with you Dark. I find her expression hard to read. Yet... It is kinda suspicious that she has a panel all to her self during the speech. It may be a reaction to the battle like you said... but isn't it kind of akward that Sakura has a panel all to herself that far in Hinata's speech? One that may even show a little bit of a surprised expression?



That just seems so wrong to me. What can even justify a relationship like that. Makes me sick to think people can actually call that a healthy relationship.


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QUOTE (narulsaku @ Mar 24 2013, 03:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes dude you are not you think kishi is planing to kill naruto then it ll leave a bad message i am sure enough that he wont ruin his works of nearly 10 years.


I think that if Naruto were to be temporarily killed then it would unlock the last step for Sakura to realize who Naruto is to her, with the fear of losing him forever.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 11:14 AM

QUOTE (Dkey @ Mar 24 2013, 10:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She acknowledged Hinata's love for Naruto in the Pain arc, and her reaction on the whole matter was hugging Naruto in front of everybody ( Hinata included). Not saying that she did it only out of sheer jealousy but when she saw Naruto after the incident she didn't see to give a rat's ass about Hinata's feelings towards Naruto.

Sakura is more focused than Hinata and knows Naruto better but still her training is to stand back and take care of wounds and Hinata is a close range fighter and could stay closer to Naruto, coupled with the fact that Hinata tries to be like Naruto was better at giving him back his resolve. Also her reaction in the panel wasn't to the hand holding, in fact after the hand holding she disappeared but was she saw was Neji's death, Naruto losing resolve and also Hinata slapping Naruto and probably heard Hinata's speech.



He already did when he created Hinata, and making her go and try to be a human shield for Naruto twice. But it seems to be the only thing Kishi is trying to develop on the Hinata Naruto relationship line. I don't see her coming and stepping in when Naruto fights Sasuke. There will be some more Hinata development and then we will see if Kishi trolled us or NH fans.

I dont know where your going with the first and second part of your reply, but I'll focus on the third part:

I dont think kishi did hinatas confession to "develop" naruto and hinatas "relationshio" cuz there was no relationship to begin with, hinata is just considered a comrade like ino and and tenten.Hinata's confession was done for her development and solely for that reason, depicting her actions selfish and reckless, this is the development hinata recieved in her confession.And keep in mind that hinata was intended to be a citizen in konoha, which adds up even more to her insignificance to the story, she was just added for tension for the main pairing, which he succeeded to fool some fans.It somewhat makes the story more interesting, sasuke was never intended to be created but kishi's editor gave kishi an idea thus making the manga more dimension.Ofcoarse im not comparing hinata to sasuke pfft, hinata is nothing to the story, its only the team 7 love triangle thats making the main pairing more interesting, hinata is just like a pairing fodder.


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Posted 24 March 2013 - 11:14 AM

QUOTE (Beastbomb @ Mar 23 2013, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I kinda of agree with you Dark. I find her expression hard to read. Yet... It is kinda suspicious that she has a panel all to her self during the speech. It may be a reaction to the battle like you said... but isn't it kind of akward that Sakura has a panel all to herself that far in Hinata's speech? One that may even show a little bit of a surprised expression?



That just seems so wrong to me. What can even justify a relationship like that. Makes me sick to think people can actually call that a healthy relationship.

The previous theory has the side that "Sakura is already in love with Naruto" but the downside is that make Hinata an obstacle for NS and the reasons there are so many reasons that i dont agree there's a thing that most of the people didnt noticed.
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On this panel on 615 kishi destroy the NH claim that "Naruto would be selfish if he reject Hinata because she sacrificed her life two times for love just to get rejected" it's a claim but it would be an obstacle for NS it would have a flaw since Naruto would be a selfish even a little because of that so he just remove this "obstacle" making seem that the two Hinata attempts to sacrifice her life made seem that she did that for friendship.
So another reason why i dont agree is that he remove the only one obstacle that NH could have for NS to add "Hinata deserve you more" just to downgrade even more Sakura's character when she's in need of development?

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 24 March 2013 - 11:19 AM.

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