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[PhenixElite]

My question is, what reason would Kishi have to not make it canon. If he is not going to use NH or SS (i personally believe that he is not going to use these pairings) then why would Sakura not fall in love with Naruto. I agree that she needs to overcome her love for Sasuke, but why would he not make Naruto and Sakura be a couple. I have seen plenty of posts where members wouldn't mind seeing Sakura without Naruto as a companion as long as she overcomes her feelings for Sasuke ( which is logical to believe in). But if you believe this, then whats the point of shipping thius couple at all? I sometimes think we are to negative when it comes to these debates.

Thats because a lot of members here like sakuras character more then the paring NS, so they wjust want whats best for her, in this case NS or getting over her crush for sasuke. Sakura is also one of my favourite characters, but im not satisfied in any way if shes not ending up with naruto. Her beeing alone in the end is just no option for me. If some people prefer character development over pairings, thats ok but not for me.

[narulsaku]

well whats your point exactly then?

[PhenixElite]

well whats your point exactly then?

Mine?

[Beastbomb]

No, most likely mine. I understand this website is for everybody.... but it is created on the basis of a NaruSaku relationship. I feel like it's kinda contradictory when someone wants the pairing to happen, but dont have the faith to follow through with it. Sakura is definatly a great character, but wouldn't it be better for her character if she forgets about Sasuke and moves on to recognize her feelings for Naruto. For some reason i believe it would make here character develop better than just forgeting about Sasuke. Just an opinion, but i believe it would be better for her character for her to fully recognize her feelings for Naruto in a genuine way.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Sai is not there either, people are speculating that sai is with sakura, one person had a good theory of them being in the Kamui dimension, Kakashi said with the power boost he was able to move bee into it in his eight tails form but it took a lot out of him, hence why sakura healed him first and then helped dauri channel power for his black panther, given how Madara is all powerful in the current fight. He can only be stopped by being sealed and sai can do that. As for sakura, maybe she is there with sai? All fans want to know this, where did sakura and sai go? Well this will be easily resolved later on merely when they reappear, all I can say is if they went to the Kages, I hope sakura gets the strength of a hundred technique from tsunade (this is very possible) and goes badass again. If sakura was left out of the army power up, it has to be for a good reason.

And yes the expression to Hinatas speech has to be good considering she is the only one there, otherwise why would Kishi have chosen to show sakura, many fans claimed this was sakura realizing she missed her chance with naruto (uh no) just a realization hinata may have given sakura about his life not being his own, she reacted to those words, how these effect her we will see. What I would find absolutely funny is if this naruhina moment set narusaku into motion. Fans can keep claiming all they want, sakura does love Sasuke as far as we know, but still has close feelings for naruto, and for the question of how sakura arrives to love naruto? Everything is there and many lingering elements like her feelings for Sasuke, the promise, when they meet again, narutos feelings towards sakura, Sakura's concern for the upcoming battle, it's all there Kishi just needs to bring it in a way which is respectful to both naruto and Sakura's characters, nothing chessy or overly romantic, just to both of them in a mature honest way they both know and understand and honestly accept each others feelings. It can happen and there will be development between them regardless of narusaku becoming canon or not.

Well like i said the reason why i dont believe that Sakura reacted with jealous or whatever is the fact that Naruto was about to give up and the huge amount of inconsistences, like the huge amount of smoke and only a few shinobis being shown on all directions i read this chapter several times and my interpretation is this.
kakashi and even madara were thinking that Naruto was about to give up then he was this.
http://i39.mangapand...uto-3780171.jpg
Kakashi is not even looking at Naruto he's looking at Obito because of his reaction.
Second Sakura is not show right after the slap she's shown when Hinata said "that's why they are comrades if everyone was give up on those words what neji did would be pointless" then the focus is on Sakura why?
- because Sakura also like Kakashi and the other shinobis were thinking that Naruto was going to give up and the focus is on her because it's like "Naruto are you going to abandon Sakura?" then the next part is "that would be the real way to kill your friends".

mostly important on this chapter wasnt this but the part that Naruto see that Hinata wasnt going to sacrifice her life for him because of love but because of this
http://i39.mangapand...uto-3780175.jpg
Because of her ninja way.
Then Naruto says i dont want to abandon my friends or the bonds i have.
http://i39.mangapand...uto-3780177.jpg

All those pages are connected.
I dont see jealous on Sakura's reaction but rather a continuation and on important focus during Hinata's speech, Sakura like kakashi also thought Naruto was going to give up and the she was the only one to have a focus because it's like kishimoto showing that on the battlefield with all those ninjas and the rookies Sakura was the most important for Naruto and what make my claim stronger is that she's show up quickly before "That's the real way to kill your friends!", and after "that's why they are comrades if everyone was give up on those words what neji did would be pointless."

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 24 March 2013 - 01:47 AM.

[PhenixElite]

No, most likely mine. I understand this website is for everybody.... but it is created on the basis of a NaruSaku relationship. I feel like it's kinda contradictory when someone wants the pairing to happen, but dont have the faith to follow through with it. Sakura is definatly a great character, but wouldn't it be better for her character if she forgets about Sasuke and moves on to recognize her feelings for Naruto. For some reason i believe it would make here character develop better than just forgeting about Sasuke. Just an opinion, but i believe it would be better for her character for her to fully recognize her feelings for Naruto in a genuine way.

It would defenitly be better for her character to be with naruto. I even think it would be bad for the story for her to not end up with him, since her character is way to much involved in the love square. Not mention all parallels and hints, in my opinion it would be bad writing to go that far for a pairing and give it that much focus since part 1 just to end it with nothing.

[Don-kun]

Thats because a lot of members here like sakuras character more then the paring NS, so they wjust want whats best for her, in this case NS or getting over her crush for sasuke. Sakura is also one of my favourite characters, but im not satisfied in any way if shes not ending up with naruto. Her beeing alone in the end is just no option for me. If some people prefer character development over pairings, thats ok but not for me.

I prefer both, character development plu getting over Sasuke and falling in love with Naruto, but there are three kind of Sakura fans, the feminine fans (girl powa type) who doesn't want Sakura to be with Naruto or Sasuke they want an independent Sakura a girls are better off with out a man slowing them down kind of Sakura, while NS fans wants her to be with someone that doesn't destroy her character and get some power up with a bad ass fight to fit her heroine role the right way, and lastly we have the SS fans the ones who say they support Sakura's feelings but that is a lie since those feelings hurts her and her character but what's even worst is that there is Naruto who is a better option for her but not an option for them, so in reality they like the SS pairing, her womb to restore the Uchiha clan and Sasuke character a lot more than what they say they like Sakura.

Edited by Don-kun, 24 March 2013 - 02:11 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Naruto never thought of Sakura as a burden. That's the problem. Sakura is thinking she is or at least trying to prove she's not. It's up to Naruto to make her feel better. I saw a similar concept with this. People don't like to be a burden to a person who he/she loves, whether they know or not. The only way to feel good or bad is when the other person confirms it. Yamato tried to explain the real support of Naruto, but Yamato didn't get to go in-depth, let alone telling her true feelings. She's stuck to try her best to not being a burden, but she should know that she will always be number one support for Naruto. He doesn't know she's feeling it until she says it or ask. It happened in Bakuman if I remember correctly and look at the result. Not to mention, the other don't want other to feel a burden.

[Beastbomb]

All those pages are connected.
I dont see jealous on Sakura's reaction but rather a continuation and on important focus during Hinata's speech, Sakura like kakashi also thought Naruto was going to give up and the she was the only one to have a focus because it's like kishimoto showing that on the battlefield with all those ninjas and the rookies Sakura was the most important for Naruto and what make my claim stronger is that she's show up quickly before "That's the real way to kill your friends!", and after "that's why they are comrades if everyone was give up on those words what neji did would be pointless."

I kinda of agree with you Dark. I find her expression hard to read. Yet... It is kinda suspicious that she has a panel all to her self during the speech. It may be a reaction to the battle like you said... but isn't it kind of akward that Sakura has a panel all to herself that far in Hinata's speech? One that may even show a little bit of a surprised expression?

so in reality they like the SS pairing, her womb to restore the Uchiha clan and Sasuke character a lot more than what they say they like Sakura.

That just seems so wrong to me. What can even justify a relationship like that. Makes me sick to think people can actually call that a healthy relationship.

[StriderC]

Don't worry I completely agree with your theory, otherwise why Kishi would show her reaction to Neji's death and later a surprise expression while Hinata was giving Naruto a speech, not only that but the fact that Kishi needed to completely remove Sakura for two following chapters with no explanation, if that wasn't a big deal then there was no reason to show that expression and then omit her appearance in the two following chapters before switching to Sasuke and the Kages. There is something Kishi feels that is too early for the readers to know so he wants to keep us in suspense.

This!

1. As you've said, why bother about showing her reaction after we've already seen her in a group reaction to Neji's death. And then it's just her by herself. No Kakashi, no one. Just Sakura...


2. Why show her with such a confusing expression. I don't think it's sadness, and if it's nothing major then why not include a bit of dialogue to give us a bit of a hint to what's going on there. She could of easily had a saddened expression with something like "...Naruto", in a thought bubble but we didn't get that at all. We get her staring at them with such an expression. She doesn't look like she likes what she sees, and remember, Sakura has ALWAYS tried to assist Naruto in anyway possible. Imagine her seeing this, from someone outside of their team, pushing him to not waver anymore and to continue to fight. Imagine how she probably feels inadequate when it comes to Naruto. She's felt this way before, and i wouldn't be surprised if she felt this way now. Of course, this is all speculation since Kishi pretty much made her go poof at the moment, but I find myself being more and more anxious given what we're left with, and all that's happened between Naruto and Hinata in just these few chapters.

I honestly don't even know how Kishi's gonna bring her back into the story, but I haven't been this anxious to actually see where things go with her personally, her feelings for Naruto, and their actual interactions in a pretty long time.

[Don-kun]

I kinda of agree with you Dark. I find her expression hard to read. Yet... It is kinda suspicious that she has a panel all to her self during the speech. It may be a reaction to the battle like you said... but isn't it kind of akward that Sakura has a panel all to herself that far in Hinata's speech? One that may even show a little bit of a surprised expression?



That just seems so wrong to me. What can even justify a relationship like that. Makes me sick to think people can actually call that a healthy relationship.

This is why I genuinely dislike this pairing while not haven any respect for it, before I use to strongly debate against it but now I gave up on that mentality since for me there is obviously something wrong with people who refuse to see the abuse, disrespect, hurt, murder attempt, deception and all the negative things combine on this pairing, worst the pairing does not give any positive message,
1- Girl should always stay in love with there 1st love even when the person never love them, treat them like trash and worst try to kill them many times.
2- Girls should not think about dignity and self esteem, they should ignore that in favor of loving the cute guy.
3- Guys don't worry about being a jerk with a girls most of the time since they will always love you no matter what you do or say to them.
4- Guys forget about being a gentlemen with girls they don't care for that, the who perseveres achieves its goals talk, thats crap the girl will always like the jerks.
That is with out mentioning that Naruto is the main character, he is very close to the girl and he loves her more than anyone else.

Honestly, how can people like SS?

Edited by Don-kun, 24 March 2013 - 02:35 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

The problem is that Sakura should be happy for Naruto and Hinata, especially Hinata because she loves a guy from her team and it will be nice to see Naruto with someone. If that's the case, why is she saddened, and I'm not talking about 615. She supposed to let Hinata hug Naruto or even tell him to say something to Hinata after Pain's fight. But that didn't happen. Instead, she kept it together and still trying to do better for herself. So again, why not helping out. Why not supporting them? Heck, even she does, she can feel pain. It happens a lot in other anime/manga.

[StriderC]

The problem is that Sakura should be happy for Naruto and Hinata, especially Hinata because she loves a guy from her team and it will be nice to see Naruto with someone. If that's the case, why is she saddened, and I'm not talking about 615. She supposed to let Hinata hug Naruto or even tell him to say something to Hinata after Pain's fight. But that didn't happen. Instead, she kept it together and still trying to do better for herself. So again, why not helping out. Why not supporting them? Heck, even she does, she can feel pain. It happens a lot in other anime/manga.

If it comes down to it, I can see her helping but in the end, I think she'd be like Naruto was with she and Sasuke.

[Beastbomb]

This is why I genuinely dislike this pairing while not haven any respect for it, before I use to strongly debate against it but now I gave up on that mentality since for me there is obviously something wrong with people who refuse to see the abuse, disrespect, hurt, murder attempt, deception and all the negative things combine on this pairing, worst the pairing does not give any positive message,
1- Girl should always stay in love with there 1st love even when the person never love them, treat them like trash and worst try to kill them many times.
2- Girls should not think about dignity and self esteem, they should ignore that in favor of loving the cute guy.
3- Guys don't worry about being a jerk with a girls most of the time since they will always love you no matter what you do or say to them.
4- Guys forget about being a gentlemen with girls they don't care for that, the who perseveres achieves its goals talk, thats crap the girl will always like the jerks.
That is with out mentioning that Naruto is the main character, he is very close to the girl and he loves her more than anyone else.

Honestly, how can people like SS?

I completely agree. I personally believe that men should place women on a pedastal and protect them whenever possible. This mindset that women are only good for there looks is disgusting and absolutely revolting. SasuSaku based on looks (sakura's point of view) and plain abuse (Sasuke's side). I absolutely hope Kishi doesn't try to pass this message off with a paring of SasuSaku (I personally believe he won't, but you never know what a writer may be thinking).

[Don-kun]

^^
Yes is truth that mens should be nice with all womens, but in a relationship it should be mutual for things to work better.

This!

1. As you've said, why bother about showing her reaction after we've already seen her in a group reaction to Neji's death. And then it's just her by herself. No Kakashi, no one. Just Sakura...


2. Why show her with such a confusing expression. I don't think it's sadness, and if it's nothing major then why not include a bit of dialogue to give us a bit of a hint to what's going on there. She could of easily had a saddened expression with something like "...Naruto", in a thought bubble but we didn't get that at all. We get her staring at them with such an expression. She doesn't look like she likes what she sees, and remember, Sakura has ALWAYS tried to assist Naruto in anyway possible. Imagine her seeing this, from someone outside of their team, pushing him to not waver anymore and to continue to fight. Imagine how she probably feels inadequate when it comes to Naruto. She's felt this way before, and i wouldn't be surprised if she felt this way now. Of course, this is all speculation since Kishi pretty much made her go poof at the moment, but I find myself being more and more anxious given what we're left with, and all that's happened between Naruto and Hinata in just these few chapters.

I honestly don't even know how Kishi's gonna bring her back into the story, but I haven't been this anxious to actually see where things go with her personally, her feelings for Naruto, and their actual interactions in a pretty long time.

Agree with you again but I need to mention that I don't believe there is any jealousy in Sakura, I strongly believe that she might be thinking that Hinata deserves Naruto more while she feels sad about it or she could be concern about possible losing Naruto's affection because he could start directing his attention towards another girl.

Unworthiness, sadness or concern are the only feelings I think Sakura could be experiencing when it comes to NH, bbut hey I could be wrong.

Edited by Don-kun, 24 March 2013 - 03:02 AM.

[StriderC]

^^
Yes is truth that mens should be nice with all womens, but in a relationship it should be mutual for things to work better.



Agree with you again but I need to mention that I don't believe there is any jealousy in Sakura, I strongly believe that she might be thinking that Hinata deserves Naruto more while she feels sad about it or she could be concern about possible losing Naruto's affection because he could start directing his attention towards another girl.

Unworthiness, sadness or concern are the only feelings I think Sakura could be experiencing when it comes to NH, bbut hey I could be wrong.

I'm not sure if it's jealousy myself but it's one of the things it could be for sure. It's all up in the air at the moment, but I can't wait to touch down on it though. That's what I think as well though. She could feel that Hinata is it for Naruto. And it'd be something if Kishi then plays around this.

What I mean is, he's pretty much given NH a lot of interactions in this war. What if Kishi then goes to make it SEEM as though NH will be canon by having the focus now switch from the NH interaction to Sakura acknowledging her feelings, but bowing out. Then going on to be the person to push for Naruto's happiness.

[narulsaku]

It would defenitly be better for her character to be with naruto. I even think it would be bad for the story for her to not end up with him, since her character is way to much involved in the love square. Not mention all parallels and hints, in my opinion it would be bad writing to go that far for a pairing and give it that much focus since part 1 just to end it with nothing.

sorry julian my previous post was for beastbomb. so yes i feel the same way. but i found nothing new in it. i ve been saying these lines you said since i watched naruto .
@beastbomb-- you seem a bit doubtful. arent you ?

[Don-kun]

I'm not sure if it's jealousy myself but it's one of the things it could be for sure. It's all up in the air at the moment, but I can't wait to touch down on it though. That's what I think as well though. She could feel that Hinata is it for Naruto. And it'd be something if Kishi then plays around this.

What I mean is, he's pretty much given NH a lot of interactions in this war. What if Kishi then goes to make it SEEM as though NH will be canon by having the focus now switch from the NH interaction to Sakura acknowledging her feelings, but bowing out. Then going on to be the person to push for Naruto's happiness.

And when they talk about Hinata Naruto might say something like, Hinata is a great person and I'm grateful that she feels that way about me.
Panel change to Sakura sad expression but right before she say something Naruto says, but it's not fair for Hinata, she deserves someone who can love her back the same way. After all I'm not someone who would lie to them self.


Is this too corny for a Shōnen Manga?

Edited by Don-kun, 24 March 2013 - 03:26 AM.

[StriderC]

And when they talk Hinata Naruto might say something like, Hinata is a great person and I'm grateful she feels that way about me.
Panel change to Sakura sad expression but right before she say something Naruto says, but is not fair for Hinata, she deserves someone who can love her back the same way.


Is this too corny for a Shōnen Manga?

LOL I could see something along those lines happening, and I think the corniness would fit with Naruto since he's never confessed before. I could even see him being a bit shy about it.

[Beastbomb]

sorry julian my previous post was for beastbomb. so yes i feel the same way. but i found nothing new in it. i ve been saying these lines you said since i watched naruto .
@beastbomb-- you seem a bit doubtful. arent you ?

I will admit, Naruto's comment about Sasuke and him dying together has me more rattled than any other pairing. I'm not afraid that it won't happen, but that little comment put me a little on edge. Makes you think about the outcome of the story and what Kishi may be planing. I can tell that I am not the only one with doubts though.