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[ultranx]

If only I knew how to make gifs, I would make one of my character killing the final boss of xenoverse and replace the boss's face with hinata's lol

[harry4e]

 

I heard of this series 

 

Why the ending was bad in your opinion? 

 

spoiler about the series

I presume its because the MC ended up with his "niece " and not his colleague?

 

Yeah pretty much this, I'm going from spoilers mainly but the MC never showed any interest in the person he ended up with, every other book showed him chasing after the collegue, yet last book does a complet BS ending, I'm so glad that this LN series had not been translated  and I had wasted my time reading all 17 LN's. I just found out that the LN's are published by Shiesha, the same company that publishers Naruto, Another nail in the freaking coffin, with that publisher.

 

spoiler

The series started so well, with some drama, a young 19 year boy, who lost his parent at a young age and practically raised by his sister, a sister who died in a plane crash with her husband. Leaving behind his three year old neice and his brother in laws two older daughters from two seperate mothers.

 

The girls other relatives want to separate the girls to send them to different reletives, So he takes the girls in, and their adventure begins. There was allot of typical boy walking in on girls moments but Japanese media has fallen to such a level that you pretty much expect it now.

 

However the MC's struggle to balance family, and college was done well so the series interested me, and Raika the girl the MC was chasing was interesting, and was no doubt the most popular girl, and as far as I know the only girl the MC ever showed interest in, pretty much till the last LN, where he suddenly end up with his freaking neice, I don't care if there is no blood relationship but he viewed her as his daughter. I guess Raika was too independant and smart to end up with the MC.

 

So the older sister is now also legally the mother to her younger sister? Which is F***ed up. You read about these kind of craptastic ending and you can't help but worry about the state of Japanese society, They pretty much trying to destroy themselves with these f**cked up messeging, I think the Japanese media is trying to make Japan extinct.

 

 

I worry for Japan.

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@harrye
They are running out of steam.
Today, the most popular thing come from korea. Even then korea popularity begun to decrease(not as popular as say 10 or 5 years ago).
I think the next hot thing from east Asia will come from china.

Have you read otaku musume?

[harry4e]

@harrye
They are running out of steam.
Today, the most popular thing come from korea. Even then korea popularity begun to decrease(not as popular as say 10 or 5 years ago).
I think the next hot thing from east Asia will come from china.

Have you read otaku musume?

 

I'm not even talking about their industry, I'm talking about their society, you read these fics and you can't help but feel men don't interact with women much, because they don't seem to have a clue about relationships at all.

 

I've heard of it, I planned on reading it a while back but the artwork put me off, and I'd read Usagi Drop around that time and that had really put a wet blanket over my desire to read good wholesome manga about a single father and his struggles to raise a daughter. Is it worth reading? It's not going to end up as an incestious pitfall is it?

[trang95]

Best Youtube comment ever:"Burrito and Salad are gonna give birth to Kruton."

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I'm not even talking about their industry, I'm talking about their society, you read these fics and you can't help but feel men don't interact with women much, because they don't seem to have a clue about relationships at all.
 
I've heard of it, I planned on reading it a while back but the artwork put me off, and I'd read Usagi Drop around that time and that had really put a wet blanket over my desire to read good wholesome manga about a single father and his struggles to raise a daughter. Is it worth reading? It's not going to end up as an incestious pitfall is it?

I don't think what the media show and the reality in Japanese society always the same. In this case the portrayal of relationship in a shonen harem romcom drama. I don't think that all/general Japanese men is like a make main character in that novel. But I think it would be better if we ask Japanese themselves how relationship in their society work.

Well, many people hate the ending in otaku musume. For myself, I don't see what's wrong with the ending. Maybe I'm not truly pay attention.

Usagi drop is a good manga. From I remember there are no incest thing.
Some member who read it is xpopuri.

[harry4e]

I don't think what the media show and the reality in Japanese society always the same. In this case the portrayal of relationship in a shonen harem romcom drama. I don't think that all/general Japanese men is like a make main character in that novel. But I think it would be better if we ask Japanese themselves how relationship in their society work.

Well, many people hate the ending in otaku musume. For myself, I don't see what's wrong with the ending. Maybe I'm not truly pay attention.

Usagi drop is a good manga. From I remember there are no incest thing.
Some member who read it is xpopuri.

 

I don't mean it like that, I'm sorry I've had a migraine this past few days so my thought process is all over place. I never meant to imply all Japanese men are like that, but constantly reading about the rapidly declining birth rate and studies showing fewer and few men and women in Japan care to start a family, I never took much notice of that first but seeing these stories ending in such manner you can't help but start to wonder if there is moor truth in Japans troubled birth rate, because you do get the impresion that there is a discord between the two genders, more so than other societies.

 

Um...Usagi Drop ended with the MC marrying his adopted daughter, the adopted daughter who is the actual daughter of his grandfather, he married his biological aunt.

[trang95]

 

I don't mean it like that, I'm sorry I've had a migraine this past few days so my thought process is all over place. I never meant to imply all Japanese men are like that, but constantly reading about the rapidly declining birth rate and studies showing fewer and few men and women in Japan care to start a family, I never took much notice of that first but seeing these stories ending in such manner you can't help but start to wonder if there is moor truth in Japans troubled birth rate, because you do get the impresion that there is a discord between the two genders, more so than other societies.

 

Um...Usagi Drop ended with the MC marrying his adopted daughter, the adopted daughter who is the actual daughter of his grandfather, he married his biological aunt.

Little reminder: The US produced a movie called Fifty Shades of Grey.

Bad storywriting exist everywhere. I can tell you stories about the German Soap operas I've seen thx to my mom, and this stuff in the light novel looks like a joke to you

[TouKen4Life3g]

At this rate, romance is good when it's not romance genre.

[trang95]

At this rate, romance is good when it's not romance genre.

Naruto is the main exception.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Naruto is the main exception.

Well, they did shift to shoujo, so yes, that's part of it.

[Gaara's hair]

Well, they did shift to shoujo, so yes, that's part of it.

That's not a shoujo! It's a monstrosity  

[Liu bie]

 A truly shonen: I am crying.

 

Naruto sucks.

 

 

Sasuke sucks, Ikki is Badass

[Pix]

At this rate, romance is good when it's not romance genre.

Korean dramas are still good!  But yeah, romance movies and shows in America are usually low sellers and nobody really watches them. As for shoujos, I haven't read any really good new ones lately. 

 

But Naruto? Naruto is a good romance manga by far. Speaking of which, remember when Kishimoto said that his next manga would be a romance?

[Phantom_999]

Mc stabs love interest with a knife to show his/her love. THE END.

Edited by Phantom_999, 29 March 2015 - 07:06 AM.

[griff142]

Romance a nine hasn't been that good unless it was included with other genres. Nowadays romance in anything is full of cli crap we have already seen done million of times before and got old or it has stuff that doesn't make sense that it infuriates you like with Naruto cough*. Romance needs new ideas to get back in the game.

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Romance need good writing.

[harry4e]

Little reminder: The US produced a movie called Fifty Shades of Grey.

Bad storywriting exist everywhere. I can tell you stories about the German Soap operas I've seen thx to my mom, and this stuff in the light novel looks like a joke to you

 

I understand bad storywriting but for me, stories that are aimed at a younger demographic, need to be more socially aware and should not include messages that could be detrementle to their mental development.

 

Shades of Grey is aimed at adults, and adults should know the difference between fiction and reality, though I do think with Fifty the kitten story is not the fault here (because ther are housands of kitten stories like these out there, you just have to see the crap that's popular on ff.net,)  but the social acceptable message this story is being portrayed, I don't think the media has done a good enough job in warning the public about content of the movie, my sister in law watched the movie thinking it was a angsty romance, she was shocked at the display of abuse and rape in the movie...I first heard of the series when it became the best seller, and yet I'd never heard of it, and up until I read posts on Chatte Tumblr page I thought the series was just soft porn, that women liked to read. I didn't see anything wrong with it, never did I think the plot was as disturbing as it was.

 

The issue I had with Naruto and Papa's ending is it's not aimed at the younger more impressional demographic, both stories it was a girl who liked a boy and the boy never showed any interest and you get to the end and that's the final pairing. In both the male charactor is seen struggling trying to impress the girl they like, and we see the girls feelings change, yet somehow that magicially becomes non-existant, and we don't get an explaination, Funny thing was I went to AnimeSuki to confirm the end and one of the first posts I read was comparing the two endings.

 

 

At this rate, romance is good when it's not romance genre.

 

Romance is good when the charactors are treated as humans and not a measure of a persons popularity.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well, that too, but I just mean in general. I think it's hard for writer to do romance in a very less corny way. This is why I just prefer buildup as friends to reach to the endpoint of love, not love at first thought. It's only asking for trouble.

[griff142]

I meant a anime my bad. God my auto correct sucks