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#13201 rocci

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 05:32 PM

Retcon, excuse, and sugar coating.
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Posted 22 November 2014 - 05:32 PM

She was talking about the types of love naruto has experienced

I guess


We need a translator

 

it must relate to Sakura's theme "life"

I guess



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Posted 22 November 2014 - 05:40 PM

I just can't believe this guy is going to rewrite his manga in one movie.

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 05:47 PM

"love for Naruto mother. From Sakura who can see all the way to bet on life and death battle for partners from the great love that."

 

What does this mean,sorry i've lost my sense in understanding anything,so can someone tell me ?

Q:聽說這次的劇場版描寫的是「愛」,我們能夠看到怎樣的愛呢!?We have heard that the movie's theme is love, what kind of love would the audience see!?

A:可以看到各種各樣的哦。開頭可以看到對鳴人對母親的愛。而從小櫻身上可以看到賭上生死為了夥伴一路戰鬥而來的那種偉大的愛。雛田還是一根筋的愛讓人覺 得很可愛。而鹿丸和井野繼承了第四次忍界大戰逝去的父親們的意志,讓人可以感受到與兩年前緊密聯繫的愛。而舍人這個角色身上肯定也有著不同於他人的某種 愛,希望大家可以注目這一點。 Oh, there would be all kinds of love. At the start of the film, we would see Naruto's love for his mother. From Sakura's character we would see her risking her life, fighting till the bitter end for her Nakama, that kind of great/wonderful love. Hinata's is still a single minded love, which is cute. From shikamaru's and ino's side they have inherited the will of their fathers from the great fourth war, letting the audience feel the bond/love from 2 years ago. And also from Toneri's, this character must also have some kind of love different from the other characters, I hope the audience can pay attention to that.

 

Junko paid more attention to sakura than kishi ever did  :love:  i believed it was her (and chie) who asked what would sakura's character do in the war.. to which kishi replied "i forgot“ :argh: 


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Posted 22 November 2014 - 05:48 PM

Pretty much  I feel so insulted by all of this and rectoning that they are doing  is there no moral ground in here even just a little  seriously the more I see of this excusing BS the more I  feel  disgusted .  I swear after this and finishing the other manga's that I read I'll never read any manga again , heck I might even drop right after this and not finish anything  that's how much disgusted I am by this kitten sign .

 
I wouldn't forswear manga entirely just because one apple withered and died. Other manga with a consistent storyline and characters do exist. You need to seek them out. My choice of action presently is to try and put Naruto behind me (at least for now) by embracing other manga. I've already finished Rurouni Kenshin and am now reading Inuyasha. Both manga have a much more compelling and honest romantic subplot compared to Naruto. 
 

Yes. This exactly. She would never ever ever come out against it. I'm not expecting anything from any of these interviews or the promotional materials. Something that's meant to sell is never going to tell you the truth.

 

Really? So once the movie is over do you think the actresses and author can be more forthcoming with their true sentiments regarding the ending? 


Edited by Atheck, 22 November 2014 - 05:50 PM.


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Posted 22 November 2014 - 05:50 PM

Hinata's is still a single minded love, which is cute.

"cute" is the last word I'd use for that.

 

 I've already finished Rurouni Kenshin and am now reading Inuyasha. Both manga have a much more compelling and honest romantic subplot compared to Naruto. 

I was disappointed that they didn't go anywhere with Sano/Megumi though. Actually, Sano's ending itself was pretty bad.


Edited by Ether, 22 November 2014 - 05:52 PM.


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Posted 22 November 2014 - 05:53 PM


 
Junko paid more attention to sakura than kishi ever did  :love:  i believed it was her (and chie) who asked what would sakura's character do in the war.. to which kishi replied "i forgot :argh: 


"I forgot"
Typical...Kishimoto doesn't care for any character unless their name is "sasuke"

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 05:56 PM

Hirunaka no Ryuusei is a good manga, although shoujo. The funny thing is that it's final chapter came out on the same day Naruto's did, and my otp from HnR became canon and it kinda sweetened the pill. This manga is a good example about how to resolve a love triangle the right way. :thumbsup:



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Posted 22 November 2014 - 05:58 PM

"I forgot"
Typical...Kishimoto doesn't care for any character unless their name is "sasuke"

Aside from this recent interview, Kishi really doesn't always give the smartest answers.

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 05:59 PM

Sigh. Honestly they constantly keep saying this is a first love for Naruto. It's rather annoying, but maybe Naruto really only did feel a crush for Sakura and his real love he feels is for Hinata. I don't know. I've given up trying to excuse it and argue it. It's just draining. I don't think these articles from a canon movie would contradict the manga. They are reallyyyy pushing the first love stuff. Maybe we were wrong in thinking Naruto was in love with Sakura after all. I always thought he loved her, because he put her happiness above his own and that's a selfless love. Oh well.

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 06:01 PM

You know...that "I forgot" part. He gave up. Sigh. I want to do manga...

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 06:02 PM

 
I wouldn't forswear manga entirely just because one apple withered and died. Other manga with a consistent storyline and characters do exist. You need to seek them out. My choice of action presently is to try and put Naruto behind me (at least for now) by embracing other manga. I've already finished Rurouni Kenshin and am now reading Inuyasha. Both manga have a much more compelling and honest romantic subplot compared to Naruto. 
 

 

Really? So once the movie is over do you think the actresses and author can be more forthcoming with their true sentiments regarding the ending? 

 

I do think at some point there will be some honesty about what happened here. But I think it will be so far in the future that there will be no left around to care.



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Posted 22 November 2014 - 06:02 PM

You know marketing won out when 99.9 percent of prmotion is about a ship and 0.1 percent is about plot.

Plot? What plot?

 

There is no plot. Zip, Nothing, Nada, Rien, Niente. None at all!  :zaru:


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Posted 22 November 2014 - 06:03 PM

 
I wouldn't forswear manga entirely just because one apple withered and died. Other manga with a consistent storyline and characters do exist. You need to seek them out. My choice of action presently is to try and put Naruto behind me (at least for now) by embracing other manga. I've already finished Rurouni Kenshin and am now reading Inuyasha. Both manga have a much more compelling and honest romantic subplot compared to Naruto. 
 ? 

I'm glad to hear that you read Inuyasha. Rumiko Takahahi is one of the greatest mangakas out there; she's been in the manga industry since the 80's. Inuyasha in my opinion is her masterpiece. We have a very interesting and consistent story line, one main villain through out the manga ( unlike Naruto's asspulled multiple asspulled villains towards the end), and romantic relationships that are gradually built up over the course of the story a beautiful and subtle way.

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 06:05 PM

 
I wouldn't forswear manga entirely just because one apple withered and died. Other manga with a consistent storyline and characters do exist. You need to seek them out. My choice of action presently is to try and put Naruto behind me (at least for now) by embracing other manga. I've already finished Rurouni Kenshin and am now reading Inuyasha. Both manga have a much more compelling and honest romantic subplot compared to Naruto. 
 

 

Really? So once the movie is over do you think the actresses and author can be more forthcoming with their true sentiments regarding the ending? 

Perhaps don't know I just can't find it in me to trust a manga  author ever again . SJ is in deep kitten and all they care is about profit so it doesn't look good for future mangakas . But I might read the ones you mentioned I've heard that they are very good  ah we'll see as for now after this I'm definitely taking a break from this disgusting kitten . 


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Posted 22 November 2014 - 06:06 PM

I wish I take the rights of Naruto away from him and make my own ending. I can't draw but I can get LadyGT to help me.

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 06:07 PM

聽說這次的劇場版描寫的是「愛」我們能夠看到怎樣的愛呢We have heard that the movie's theme is love, what kind of love would the audience see!?
可以看到各種各樣的哦。開頭可以看到對鳴人對母親的愛。而從小櫻身上可以看到賭上生死為了夥伴一路戰鬥而來的那種偉大的愛。雛田還是一根筋的愛讓人覺 得很可愛。而鹿丸和井野繼承了第四次忍界大戰逝去的父親們的意志讓人可以感受到與兩年前緊密聯繫的愛。而舍人這個角色身上肯定也有著不同於他人的某種 愛希望大家可以注目這一點。 Oh, there would be all kinds of love. At the start of the film, we would see Naruto's love for his mother. From Sakura's character we would see her risking her life, fighting till the bitter end for her Nakama, that kind of great/wonderful love. Hinata's is still a single minded love, which is cute. From shikamaru's and ino's side they have inherited the will of their fathers from the great fourth war, letting the audience feel the bond/love from 2 years ago. And also from Toneri's, this character must also have some kind of love different from the other characters, I hope the audience can pay attention to that.
 
Junko paid more attention to sakura than kishi ever did  :love:  i believed it was her (and chie) who asked what would sakura's character do in the war.. to which kishi replied "i forgot :argh: 

we will see naruto's love for his mother at the start...? I'd like to know why. Does it have something to do with not following his mother's advice and moving on from Sakura?

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 06:07 PM

I'm glad to hear that you read Inuyasha. Rumiko Takahahi is one of the greatest mangakas out there; she's been in the manga industry since the 80's. Inuyasha in my opinion is her masterpiece. We have a very interesting and consistent story line, one main villain through out the manga ( unlike Naruto's asspulled multiple asspulled villains towards the end), and romantic relationships that are gradually built up over the course of the story a beautiful and subtle way.

I did like that series a lot. Started to appreciate more as of late. I kind of wish they handled the love triangle result differently though.

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 06:07 PM

Sigh. Honestly they constantly keep saying this is a first love for Naruto. It's rather annoying, but maybe Naruto really only did feel a crush for Sakura and his real love he feels is for Hinata. I don't know. I've given up trying to excuse it and argue it. It's just draining. I don't think these articles from a canon movie would contradict the manga. They are reallyyyy pushing the first love stuff. Maybe we were wrong in thinking Naruto was in love with Sakura after all. I always thought he loved her, because he put her happiness above his own and that's a selfless love. Oh well.

Naruto loved sakura, its fact... Its in the manga

They are only retconning this now so little princess hinata-hime-sama doesn't look like so much like a rebound

And look they are not only retconning this... but chapter 437 too
Because apparently Naruto went through 2 years without addressing hinata's feelings... Even the propaganda says
"will naruto finally realise his friend's feelings? "


Total retcon

Edited by Nar123, 22 November 2014 - 06:13 PM.

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 06:08 PM

I'm glad to hear that you read Inuyasha. Rumiko Takahahi is one of the greatest mangakas out there; she's been in the manga industry since the 80's. Inuyasha in my opinion is her masterpiece. We have a very interesting and consistent story line, one main villain through out the manga ( unlike Naruto's asspulled multiple asspulled villains towards the end), and romantic relationships that are gradually built up over the course of the story a beautiful and subtle way.

The last fight in that series was a massive disappointment though. If it weren't for the character interactions, I think that would have ruined it for me.






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