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[catsi563]

Think you guys missed the point of the law. When you say turn down your tvs volume. Would you like to do it EVERY SINGLE commercial break??

the law makes it so advertisers have to keep the volume on those commercials at the same volume as other shows. A person watching tv shouldnt have to mute the tv everytime a commercial comes on. While a low priority i grant you compared to some things it is a neccesary one.

[Nate River]

Think you guys missed the point of the law. When you say turn down your tvs volume. Would you like to do it EVERY SINGLE commercial break??

the law makes it so advertisers have to keep the volume on those commercials at the same volume as other shows. A person watching tv shouldnt have to mute the tv everytime a commercial comes on. While a low priority i grant you compared to some things it is a neccesary one.

Yes. Yes, I would. My thumb needs exercise and I'd be fighting obesity. PS3 isn't cutting it anymore.

[ciardha]

Think you guys missed the point of the law. When you say turn down your tvs volume. Would you like to do it EVERY SINGLE commercial break??

the law makes it so advertisers have to keep the volume on those commercials at the same volume as other shows. A person watching tv shouldnt have to mute the tv everytime a commercial comes on. While a low priority i grant you compared to some things it is a neccesary one.

Exactly. and frankly it should have been against the law as soon as noise pollution laws were passed back in the 1970's.

[Sakura Blossoms]

Think you guys missed the point of the law. When you say turn down your tvs volume. Would you like to do it EVERY SINGLE commercial break??

the law makes it so advertisers have to keep the volume on those commercials at the same volume as other shows. A person watching tv shouldnt have to mute the tv everytime a commercial comes on. While a low priority i grant you compared to some things it is a neccesary one.

It's a useless law that they spent time on instead of passing *real* useful laws. That's my opinion and it's not going to change.

[Nate River]

Exactly. and frankly it should have been against the law as soon as noise pollution laws were passed back in the 1970's.

By whom?

Most noise ordinances I'm familiar with are local and wouldn't cover something like that.

[Sakura Blossoms]

Well at least 'someone' is doing something about North Korea

http://news.yahoo.co...ar_crimes_korea

[Nate River]

Well at least 'someone' is doing something about North Korea

http://news.yahoo.co...ar_crimes_korea

The only response that ICC will get from North Korea is the middle finger. The ICC like the UN wouldn't get anything meaningful done as long as its lacks the power to fundamentally change the regime that runs it.

So you're able to get an indictment and arrest warrant...who wants to serve it and make Kim Jong Il show up for Court? The ICC is likely to be effective only after the regime is toppled. And even then, the last time they prosecuted a genocidal dicatator they were so slow in doing so he died in prison before proceedings were finished.

[Strangelove]

One of the things the ICC has to realize is that North Korea is not what you would call...into the international world. Kim Jong would much rather have its people starve than turning in his nuclear weapons. Is either guns or butter, and this guy prefers guns.

Edited by Strangelove, 07 December 2010 - 12:38 AM.

[Dreamer]

Oh come on, gimme a break. A new law against tv commercials

http://news.yahoo.co...ud-ads-23317805

Why are Geico videos in a politics thread....?

Geico Commercials, Geico Commercials Everywhere!

We'll be back after a commercial break..


Okay, we're back!

Edited by Dreamer, 07 December 2010 - 04:36 AM.

[Insurrection]

Elizabeth Edwards lost her fight with cancer. R.I.P.

Edited by Insurrection, 07 December 2010 - 10:44 PM.

[ciardha]

OMG Obama does it again- keeps doing something that shows he's even worse a president that I thought he'd be in 2008. (and no I'm not enjoying the "I told you so" experience, because he's even worse than I imagined and what having two terrible presidents in a row at such a dire time. ) As the thread title says- compare Obama to Bill Clinton right on the video.

http://riverdaughter...e-and-contrast/

Bill's doing it to try to save the Democratic party and hopes something can be salvaged from the latest Obama disaster but Bernie Sanders is right. Sanders plans are the only direction that will work.

http://riverdaughter...g-dawg-couldnt/

Edited by ciardha, 11 December 2010 - 11:30 PM.

[catsi563]

Yeah Was hoping hed stand up and strengthen up but the "Shelacking" he took in the election, and the republican attack ads all took the fight out of him. Im supremely disappointed and more likely to support a new democratic president in 2012.

[Strangelove]

See...no big difference there

ObamaBush should run in the same ticket. As Mabus. ^^

Im just kidding. But i told yah so xD...well me and a couple of other people told yah so. That is why he got whooped the last election. He and the democrats didn't stood up to they're principles. They only stood up to they're sucky principles of a socialized welfare state economy, that everyone hates.

Edited by Strangelove, 12 December 2010 - 03:52 AM.

[Insurrection]

Fact was he didn't stand up at all, it wasn't republican attack ads at all, it was his inability to govern cmbined with a opprotunist opposition. Even when he passed a lot he couldn't sell it properly and he let the media take his message over. Never showed up with a bite.

Edited by Insurrection, 12 December 2010 - 04:54 AM.

[catsi563]

theres that socialized welfare state bs again. you know that argument is complete and utter crap strange.

Im assuming then if thats how you feel, you would prefer a true capitalist system?

you know privatized police departments, and fire departments with client lists where the departments are individual franchises who only help their clientelle and no one else. Also each Ambulance and hospital would be owned by privatized corproations whose bottom line is profit over helping people.

Unemployed people would basiclaly starve to death since their would be no unemployment insurance. And you can basically kiss your grandparents goodbye because the instant they cant work in a capitalist society they get kicked to the curb as theres no social security or retirement.

Also no federaly funded roads, or bridges all of them would be corporate owned, and youd have to compete to see who would repair the roads in front of your house. Add in that youd more then likely owe tolls to which ever entity owned the roads.

All of the above are soicalist programs, healthcare, medicare, Social security, federal police and fire departments, the military everyone so loves to make heroes out of, the vetrans care they receive upon their return from war. All socialist programs.

So lets lose the socialist welfare bullpuckey, and focus on the real issues like the republicans burrying us our kids, our grandkids, and our great grand kids in debt up to our eyeballs so they can make the top 2% richer.

[Strangelove]

Yes, right now i have more trust in a company, than the federal government.

Constitutionally, the federal govt. Does have power over the infrastructure. It is used by everyone, it cannot be privatize. There is no such thing, as buying a street, and having to pay a toll to get from one part to another, by a few 40 feet.

It has the power to provide defense, but nation building is no defense.

You cannot blame the Republicans solely for blame that is equally share. The Republicans did broke the budget, the Democrats left it worse. Clinton had a surplus, Bush had a 600 billion dollar deficit, Obama and the Democrats ended up with 2 trillion dollar deficits, which is bound to get worse, if we don't change the way we live.

Another example why socialism doesn't work. Look at Western Europe...broke. France is broke, Germany is broke, England is broke. Italy is broke, Greece is broke. All of them provided free healthcare, some provided free college education, they're whole financial systems are collapsing.

All I am asking, is to start living within our means. Most great nations throughout history have collapsed because they have stopped living within they're means. You asked about burying our children and our children children in debt. But it is the welfare state that you support that is doing exactly that.

[ciardha]

They only stood up to they're sucky principles of a socialized welfare state economy, that everyone hates.

Uh no. Obama has continually catered to big corporate interests and the far religious right in the same way Bush did. The so called health care reform- hurt medicare and gave more power to the insurance companies. Signed a weakened Lilly Ledbetter Act rather than the paycheck fairness act that Hillary and others had crafted and backed that would have actually given women a real right to push for equal pay for equal work. The Ledbetter Act is mere window dressing that only gives slightly more time to discover if gender discrimination exists, it does nothing to even help a woman discover that. His disgraceful behavior on extending DADT, when all he would have had to do with no real political repercussions would have let stand the court decision suspending it, effectively ending it without having to get involved. Instead he has his representatives reinstate it.

Obama has been always contemptuous of other Democratic presidents (who actually created programs that helped the disadvantaged while he worships Reagan- who sent millions into homelessness while giving tax cuts to the rich, creating an economic disaster just like Bush and Obama have. Clinton only raised taxes on the most wealthy by 4%, and expanded tax credits for low income people, created a couple of jobs programs, created a health care program for low income children (Hillary's work, there actually) and just that little FDR lite effort paid off the deficit, created a surplus, stopped the grotesque expansion in income disparity between the top 1% and everyone else, created millions upon millions of jobs- dropping unemployment down to less than 5%. This created an economy that benefited all economic classes.

Obama has been as contemptuous of human rights activism as right wingers all along, and emphatically stated he was not a liberal or progressive- his political history- as I pointed out again and again in 2008 made that obvious. He's far closer to Clarence Thomas politically than Jesse Jackson Sr. Obama was the second most Republican like in his voting record of the 2007-8 Democratic candidates, only Biden was moreso.

In contrast Hillary Clinton (always far more liberal than Bill) was the second most liberal of the Democratic candidate, only Kuchnich was moreso, and not even across the board- on women's and children's issues Hillary had the more liberal voting record.

And hate the "socialized welfare state"? Not hardly- the responses to Bernie Sanders proposals have been almost completely enthusiastically positive. Point blank we need to do more on that side to get us out of this Great Recession (contrary to the pro big corporate message you get not just on Fox but on fauxgressive news sources like MSNBC, CNN, etc... FDR measures- which he started on day 1 of his presidency of more government social welfare programs, restoring the tax rate for the wealthy under President Wilson, and then raising it even higher only on millionaires- a policy Truman and even Eisenhower followed- created the great American middle class prosperity of the 1950's and 60's.)

The reality of American income distribution now is 50% earn under 35,000 a year (including people like me with college degrees and working "white collar professional" jobs. I earned 32K last year- and that is after 15 years on the job), 75% earn less than 50,000, 90% earn less than 100,000. 50% of all of our country's wealth is owned by 1/25 of 1% of Americans- that's a grotesque disparity that last existed in the 1920's, due to very similar economic policies to Reagan/Bush and Bush/Obama pursued by Harding/Coolidge/Hoover- policies that created the Great Depression, the crash of 1989-92, and the current Great Recession.

Believe me, the anger isn't just amongst the lower income right wingers- the rank and file of the Tea Party, it's very present amongst the lower income left of center too, the problem is no one charismatic enough has emerged in the Green Party to bring the left together- although the Green party is slowly gaining power. 2008 was my breaking point, I've considered myself Green party since then. The Democratic party with a few exceptions (like Hillary Clinton) have become the Republican lite party, 2008 showed that. And the 2010 midterm elections showed the results of that, the liberal core of the Democratic party stayed home in droves because a race between a Republican and a Republican in all but name is no choice. If the lower income liberal core of the Democratic party did what what the lower income right wing did to the Republican party with the Tea Party, by joining the Green party in droves and demanding if the Dem party wants their votes they better start supporting the values of the lower income liberal core of the Democratic party. FDR paid attention to that core part of the party and made the Democratic party powerful for years.

[Sakura Blossoms]

Though a Gallup poll released last week showed President Obama’s approval ratings dropping below those of former President George W. Bush, the Bloomberg poll found that 52 percent of Americans have a favorable view of Obama, while only 39 percent have a favorable view of Bush. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was the most popular of the public figures asked about, with 65 percent of respondents saying they viewed her favorably.

Too late to cry over spilled milk, America. You voted a 'community organizer' into power who had absolutely no experience, over someone who has been in politics for half of her adult life, and actually knows what she's doing.

[Nate River]

Too late to cry over spilled milk, America. You voted a 'community organizer' into power who had absolutely no experience, over someone who has been in politics for half of her adult life, and actually knows what she's doing.

To be fair, it was the Democratic Party and it's primary voters that helped Obama win the nomination over Clinton and not the general electorate. They chose Obama over McCain.

[Insurrection]

He was just so shiny and Sarah Palin was so awful and the third parties were too crazy.

Edited by Insurrection, 14 December 2010 - 10:45 PM.