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#1301 Illnevergiveup3

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Posted 03 December 2020 - 06:37 PM

If I have to be honest Hiro Mashima has been one of the few mangakas I trust when it comes to handling romance between characters in a series, and that can be traced all the way back to his original series Rave Master with Haru x Ellie.  I know when it comes to Fairy Tail the pair he was going for was NaLu, but if I have to be honest here  I was actually never really that big on Natsu x Lucy..... (in come the comments - LUCKYCHI YOU DIDN'T! JUST SAY THAT!!!  :lmao:  :lmao: )   Let me explain,  it's pretty apparent that NaLu was the main OTP for Fairy Tail & I had nothing against it. In fact I was quite curious to seeing how Hiro would develop that relationship, but it felt a little one-sided and not as genuine or subtle as  Haru x Ellie from Rave Master.  That being said, Fairy Tail 100 Years Quest is kind of taking the Natsu x Lucy relationship in that direction which is neat, but I'm waiting to see how it goes in this latest arc before I commit to shipping them lol. 
 
 
Anyway, I think we are all aware of Hiro's latest series Edens Zero which btw is amazing if you haven't checked it out yet, and like Rave Master & Fairy Tail  Hiro is working towards developing a relationship between his two leads. Though, unlike with how my stance has been on NaLu's development throughout the original run of Fairy Tail;   I'm actually finding myself really invested in this pairing similarly the way I felt about  Haru x Ellie,  and it makes me really curious to see where it all leads. 
 
 
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SHIBECCA -   EDENS ZERO 
 
 
 
 
 Man I can't wait to see this scene whenever we get the anime next year (most likely this will be season 3 material, but still it'll be interesting!) 

Didnt Natsu and Lucy confess to each other in the recent chapter? Like not a full blown confession, but like a subtle confession before their real confession?

I hope this isnt considered to be a spoiler.

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Posted 03 December 2020 - 06:55 PM

Yup,  it take places very closely to where the original series ended! 

 

 

 

The link's here, and currently there are 70 chapters: https://sorcererweek...q/en/1/1/page/1

 

 

 

p.s.  we keep the Fairy Tail thread active still thanks to 100 Years Quest, and it's been interesting for sure! 

 

 

wish I could say the same for the Edens Zero thread we made a couple years back, but I tend to keep that one running to innerject my thoughts on how things have been on the series thus far. Haven't one in a while since the anime got announced, but it's still pretty exciting nonetheless.


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Posted 03 December 2020 - 06:56 PM

Didnt Natsu and Lucy confess to each other in the recent chapter? Like not a full blown confession, but like a subtle confession before their real confession?


The closest to a confession we have at the moment was at the end of the original series when Lucy tried to confess and even tries to kiss Natsu, but Natsu ruined it by dragging her along for their quest. However, Natsu tells Lucy that they'll always be together (which, according to Mashima, was Natsu reciprocating her feelings, but Lucy is unaware of that fact). Recently, we found out that Edo-Lucy and Edo-Natsu got married and had a child, and Edo-Lucy told her that she has complete faith that Lucy and Natsu will get together in the future.

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Posted 03 December 2020 - 08:25 PM

Mashima was always pretty straight forward with his pairings though, and no kittening around.

 

Gajeel and Levi are still some of my favorite. Metal knucklehead with bookworm magic? Oooh yes!

 

I like the others too, but had a soft spot for these ones.


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Posted 03 December 2020 - 09:18 PM

Mashima was always pretty straight forward with his pairings though, and no kittening around.

 

Gajeel and Levi are still some of my favorite. Metal knucklehead with bookworm magic? Oooh yes!

 

I like the others too, but had a soft spot for these ones.

 

 

Very much so that's one of things I love about him as a writer. it's relatively pretty basic with who is gonna end up together, but I love that he gives time and effort to develop them as characters and as partners as the series progresses as far as Fairy Tail ships go..... 

 

 

I would have to say: 

 

 

 

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Posted 03 December 2020 - 09:22 PM

Here's a post from Kagomaru. Found it while trying to find the code for the spoiler tab. Thank goodness I didn't get too deep into it, sheesh! I'm sorry for y'all who had to endure this.
 

Yeah, it was one of the most devastating and reprehensible attempts at a bait-and-switch that I've had to deal with in a long while.  What's more galling? The damn author is writing a new series with a similar set-up.  Just replace "Demon Lord" with "Vampire Prince", and "Angel Hero" with "Vampire Hunter".  He must think that his fans are complete morons to want to purchase a blatant copy of his first novella after the stunt that he pulled.


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Posted 03 December 2020 - 09:49 PM

Yeah, it was one of the most devastating and reprehensible attempts at a bait-and-switch that I've had to deal with in a long while.  What's more galling? The damn author is writing a new series with a similar set-up.  Just replace "Demon Lord" with "Vampire Prince", and "Angel Hero" with "Vampire Hunter".  He must think that his fans are complete morons to want to purchase a blatant copy of his first novella after the stunt that he pulled.

  

Here's a post from Kagomaru. Found it while trying to find the code for the spoiler tab. Thank goodness I didn't get too deep into it, sheesh! I'm sorry for y'all who had to endure this.


so, in other words. He developed two characters romantically together just to have them paired with randoms at the end? And he wasn’t forced into doing this?

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Posted 03 December 2020 - 10:08 PM

Yup.

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Posted 04 December 2020 - 01:14 AM

I don't really have any anime or any ships currently besides Mitsuha x Taki from Your Name.  Maybe Rebecca X Shiki could be my top pairing but Im still waiting for the story to progress. Lucy x Natsu is going to happen and I used to ship it hard but not so much now. Bellamy x  Clark was another favorite from The 100

 

Julia x Penny IS one of my ships that sailed in The Magicians and it became my #1 when the show was stiill airing:

 

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Posted 04 December 2020 - 03:12 PM

Julia x Penny IS one of my ships that sailed in The Magicians and it became my #1 when the show was stiill airing:
 


What made you ship them so hard? It always felt odd for me with the whole timeline thing with Julia, Penny, and Kady.

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Posted 04 December 2020 - 07:03 PM

Yeah, most likely because everyone was already paired up from day 1. If you haven't already, you should read the FT continuation. There's some pretty interesting news there for GaLe fans. For me I think one of my top FT pairing is Erza x Jellal. :wow: I love their history and dynamic together.

Wow, that's disgusting. And you say he's out here with basically promoting a new series that's extremely similar to the previous one? When will managaka's get it into their head that if you give the royal FU to your fanbase that it'll end in disaster for you? :hm:


Ohh I watched The 100 too. I stopped after a certain period cause I wasn't too interested anymore. Aren't they together in real life too? Like married? Lool!

Yeah clarke and bellamy are married in real life. wheww



 


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Posted 04 December 2020 - 07:12 PM

What made you ship them so hard? It always felt odd for me with the whole timeline thing with Julia, Penny, and Kady.

 

During the first two seasons even though Penny and Julia barely interacted I saw chemistry between them and always secretly shipped them. I couldn't see her with anyone else and her relationship with Quentin never went beyond friendship (I couldn't see her with him either)

 

In all of the previous timelines, Julia went to Brakebills and nothing much was said about Kady in those timelines. We know that in that timeline Penny 23 and Julia was together so I assume that they were together in most of the timelines. 

 

With the timeline thing, the way I see it though is that Penny would've fallen in love with either Kady or Julia. Its just in timeline 40 Julia went down a dark path and Kady took her place in  brakebills which allowed her to meet Penny earlier than Julia.



 


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Posted 05 December 2020 - 12:51 AM

Arguably one of my favorite shipping bits from Fairy Tail 100 Year Quest in terms of Zervis, and something I felt underwhelmed by when it came to the conclusion of Natsu and Zeref's brotherly ties, and this particular moment made it up for me!

 

 

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Posted 05 December 2020 - 12:40 PM

Arguably one of my favorite shipping bits from Fairy Tail 100 Year Quest in terms of Zervis, and something I felt underwhelmed by when it came to the conclusion of Natsu and Zeref's brotherly ties, and this particular moment made it up for me!

 

 

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OMG, these two have children???

 

OH WOW I am so behind Fairy Tail... I dropped it after its end (well, dropped many things after Naruto end tho) so I am so unaware of many of these things.

 

Last thing I remember about these two is that they loved each other but couldn't be together for some reason.

 

Maybe I should get back to FT sooner rather than later.


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Posted 05 December 2020 - 12:46 PM

OMG, these two have children???

 

OH WOW I am so behind Fairy Tail... I dropped it after its end (well, dropped many things after Naruto end tho) so I am so unaware of many of these things.

 

Last thing I remember about these two is that they loved each other but couldn't be together for some reason.

 

Maybe I should get back to FT sooner rather than later.

the 100 year quest manga continuation is better than the main FT series.



 


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Posted 05 December 2020 - 02:29 PM

the 100 year quest manga continuation is better than the main FT series.

 

Yeah it kinda looks like...

 

I know some people were pissed at Fairy Tail because no one died or wasn't serious enough or whatever, but imo Fairy Tail was never about that.

 

It was always about camaraderie and adventure so it was only obvious it won't have heavy subjects like Naruto or Bleach or whatever.

 

I always took it as it was intended and to me, it served its purpose. It pretty much delivered on all accounts.

 

The ships especially :D


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Posted 05 December 2020 - 05:15 PM

OMG, these two have children???

 

OH WOW I am so behind Fairy Tail... I dropped it after its end (well, dropped many things after Naruto end tho) so I am so unaware of many of these things.

 

Last thing I remember about these two is that they loved each other but couldn't be together for some reason.

 

Maybe I should get back to FT sooner rather than later.

 

 

It was something that got brought up in the final arc of the series which actually made things pretty interesting, and I'd say check out 100 year quest as soon as you can because things are definitely getting interesting as a continuation from the main series. 

 

the 100 year quest manga continuation is better than the main FT series.

 

 

I think the biggest strength with 100 year quest is that Hiro is primarily writing the story while one of his assistants is handling the artwork which is pretty much on par with the original series if I'm being honest.   

 

The other thing being that Hiro was getting burnt off from working Fairy Tail towards the end (after Tartaros wrapped up) which kinda explains why things felt a little rushed, but I believe him taking that 1 year hiatus from the series finale was actually helped out.  

 

 

It is pretty crazy to see his work ethic of drawing & writing Edens Zero  alongside being the storyteller for 100 Years Quest, and I got to say that unlike Boruto they are addressing an element of the series that was mentioned in passing, but it's being told in an interesting way. 

 

 

Yeah it kinda looks like...

 

I know some people were pissed at Fairy Tail because no one died or wasn't serious enough or whatever, but imo Fairy Tail was never about that.

 

It was always about camaraderie and adventure so it was only obvious it won't have heavy subjects like Naruto or Bleach or whatever.

 

I always took it as it was intended and to me, it served its purpose. It pretty much delivered on all accounts.

 

The ships especially :D

 

 

Well said Chatte!

 

The other factor people don't take into account, but Hiro did mention that unlike his previous series Rave Master where things were sentimental and sad,  he wanted the story of his next manga (that being Fairy Tail) "to be a lot of fun" is how he described it.   Which is something you really tell when you are going through Fairy Tail,  and personally I think that's what makes the series so special and endearing. 

 

 

A lot of people I feel looked Rave Master (his first series) as a masterpiece which it very much is (no pun intended lol), and were looking for a similar vibe when it came to Fairy Tail. To be fair I don't exactly blame them for having that kind of feeling cause initially I was kind of critical towards the series in the beginning since I know what Hiro's capable of as a writer, but once I came across that interview of his my perspective on the series changed.  Obviously because I  understood what kind of vibe he was going for Fairy Tail. 

 

 

Here is the interview if you're curious to check it out: https://www.liveabou...mashima-2282820

 

 

My biggest takeaway from Hiro Mashima as a writer is that he's pretty honest about the things he says in interviews, and especially if you ever pick up the Volumes  (in more cases than few) he'll talk about story aspects of what happened within that volume, and what ideas he had and what things he may have altered which I personally thing is pretty cool. That's been a huge staple of Hiro Mashima ever since he started writing manga with his first series, and he continues to do so to this very day with his current series Edens Zero.


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Posted 05 December 2020 - 05:37 PM

 

Yeah it kinda looks like...

 

I know some people were pissed at Fairy Tail because no one died or wasn't serious enough or whatever, but imo Fairy Tail was never about that.

 

It was always about camaraderie and adventure so it was only obvious it won't have heavy subjects like Naruto or Bleach or whatever.

 

I always took it as it was intended and to me, it served its purpose. It pretty much delivered on all accounts.

 

The ships especially :D

 

I also bet that it also was feeling like in some areas it didn't live up to how Mr. Mashima didn't seem to make things "clear" in some cases as he had done with Rave when he first worked in manga is why some people had their issues with Fairy Tail in a lot of ways, evne if it wasn't about that as you said, Chatte. :smile: But that's just me guessing, given how nuts and serious Rave as a series got at times.



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Posted 05 December 2020 - 07:52 PM

 

 

It was something that got brought up in the final arc of the series which actually made things pretty interesting, and I'd say check out 100 year quest as soon as you can because things are definitely getting interesting as a continuation from the main series. 

 

 

 

I think the biggest strength with 100 year quest is that Hiro is primarily writing the story while one of his assistants is handling the artwork which is pretty much on par with the original series if I'm being honest.   

 

The other thing being that Hiro was getting burnt off from working Fairy Tail towards the end (after Tartaros wrapped up) which kinda explains why things felt a little rushed, but I believe him taking that 1 year hiatus from the series finale was actually helped out.  

 

 

It is pretty crazy to see his work ethic of drawing & writing Edens Zero  alongside being the storyteller for 100 Years Quest, and I got to say that unlike Boruto they are addressing an element of the series that was mentioned in passing, but it's being told in an interesting way. 

 

 

 

Well said Chatte!

 

The other factor people don't take into account, but Hiro did mention that unlike his previous series Rave Master where things were sentimental and sad,  he wanted the story of his next manga (that being Fairy Tail) "to be a lot of fun" is how he described it.   Which is something you really tell when you are going through Fairy Tail,  and personally I think that's what makes the series so special and endearing. 

 

 

A lot of people I feel looked Rave Master (his first series) as a masterpiece which it very much is (no pun intended lol), and were looking for a similar vibe when it came to Fairy Tail. To be fair I don't exactly blame them for having that kind of feeling cause initially I was kind of critical towards the series in the beginning since I know what Hiro's capable of as a writer, but once I came across that interview of his my perspective on the series changed.  Obviously because I  understood what kind of vibe he was going for Fairy Tail. 

 

 

Here is the interview if you're curious to check it out: https://www.liveabou...mashima-2282820

 

 

My biggest takeaway from Hiro Mashima as a writer is that he's pretty honest about the things he says in interviews, and especially if you ever pick up the Volumes  (in more cases than few) he'll talk about story aspects of what happened within that volume, and what ideas he had and what things he may have altered which I personally thing is pretty cool. That's been a huge staple of Hiro Mashima ever since he started writing manga with his first series, and he continues to do so to this very day with his current series Edens Zero.

 

Oooh thank you for that, I'll definitely give it a go and dwell a bit more into this.

 

And yeah that's what I liked about Mashima as well. He didn't hide around the bush though. And that can be seen in his storytelling technique as well, I guess.

 

I'll always appreciate a man like this, unlike another author ahem... *cough*Kishimoto*cough*

 

 

I also bet that it also was feeling like in some areas it didn't live up to how Mr. Mashima didn't seem to make things "clear" in some cases as he had done with Rave when he first worked in manga is why some people had their issues with Fairy Tail in a lot of ways, evne if it wasn't about that as you said, Chatte. :smile: But that's just me guessing, given how nuts and serious Rave as a series got at times.

I totally see what you mean, but see, that's the thing. You said it yourself - Rave series got heavy and serious at times.

That was its context.

 

Fairy Tail was never about that. It was about adventure and nakama. It was bound from the start to be a happy-to-go series.

That's why I believe is unfair to judge him by the standards of his previous work or the standards of works that work in different context than what Fairy Tail is supposed to be.


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Posted 06 December 2020 - 09:54 AM

I totally see what you mean, but see, that's the thing. You said it yourself - Rave series got heavy and serious at times.

That was its context.

 

Fairy Tail was never about that. It was about adventure and nakama. It was bound from the start to be a happy-to-go series.

That's why I believe is unfair to judge him by the standards of his previous work or the standards of works that work in different context than what Fairy Tail is supposed to be.

 

That might be why it felt odd at times with Fairy Tail overall by comparing it to Rave, but as you said, it is unfair to do so.






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