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#1301 Konoha'sCrimsonFox

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 07:27 PM

[quote name='Branden' date='Jun 12 2012, 08:47 AM' post='392946']
your saying Sakura can only win fights when she's underestimated. your also saying that all Chiyo did was help, implying that Sakura was the more important in that fight, which she clearly was not. Sakura helped Chiyo, and Chiyo was the only reason why they stood a chance in that fight. Perhaps you would like to reword your comment.
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That's not the point. You taking this the wrong way. I'm just saying don't underestimate her character like many NH and SS shippers do. Surely, it has been proven the the strongest of protagonists needs help to win battles. Look at Naruto, even though he has BM, he needs help from Bee, Kakashi and Ga. And Itachi needed his brother's help to eradicate Edo Tensei from Kabuto's grasp. Just because a character needs to have teamwork to defeat a powerful foe doesn't mean that they are weak. If so, than the five Kage, Naruto, Bee, Kakashi, Gai, Sasuke and Itachi must be weak and pathetic. Sounds bias to me.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 07:36 PM

Brendan try and be realistic here. Pain technically beat Naruto. And this was before Deva was up and running again.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 07:38 PM

QUOTE (God of All Shinobi @ Jun 12 2012, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Brendan try and be realistic here. Pain technically beat Naruto. And this was before Deva was up and running again.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 07:39 PM

QUOTE (Konoha'sCrimsonFox @ Jun 12 2012, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's not the point. You taking this the wrong way. I'm just saying don't underestimate her character like many NH and SS shippers do. Surely, it has been proven the the strongest of protagonists needs help to win battles. Look at Naruto, even though he has BM, he needs help from Bee, Kakashi and Ga. And Itachi needed his brother's help to eradicate Edo Tensei from Kabuto's grasp. Just because a character needs to have teamwork to defeat a powerful foe doesn't mean that they are weak. If so, than the five Kage, Naruto, Bee, Kakashi, Gai, Sasuke and Itachi must be weak and pathetic. Sounds bias to me.

I agree with you.
Great Point, Naruto needed Bee then Kakashi and Gai save his a**.
Ithachi did need Bee and Naruto's help against Nagato.
Saiuke needed Karin, Juugo and Suigetsu or else he be dead.
Shokamaru was saved by Temari.
Tsunade was saved by Naruto.
So because Sakura worked with Chiyo she is a useless character, I love that logic.

Edited by donjoseph19, 12 June 2012 - 07:46 PM.


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Posted 12 June 2012 - 07:42 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jun 12 2012, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then don't use words that describe everyone on here so easily, unless your message is to everyone on here. More importantly, DO NOT speak for them. Everyone here has there own opinion.


I already clarified my statement in my post.

QUOTE (Branden @ Jun 12 2012, 09:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
spell my name right, then ill speak with you, until then your being ignored.


You know, you have a real attitude problem.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 07:45 PM

just because Sakura isn't S-Class Kage-level doesn't mean she's "weak" :/

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 07:49 PM

QUOTE (donjoseph19 @ Jun 12 2012, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's not the point. You taking this the wrong way. I'm just saying don't underestimate her character like many NH and SS shippers do. Surely, it has been proven the the strongest of protagonists needs help to win battles. Look at Naruto, even though he has BM, he needs help from Bee, Kakashi and Ga. And Itachi needed his brother's help to eradicate Edo Tensei from Kabuto's grasp. Just because a character needs to have teamwork to defeat a powerful foe doesn't mean that they are weak. If so, than the five Kage, Naruto, Bee, Kakashi, Gai, Sasuke and Itachi must be weak and pathetic. Sounds bias to me.

I agree with you.
Great Point, Naruto needed Bee then Kakashi and Gai save his a**.
Ithachi did need Bee and Naruto's help against Nagato.
Sasuke needed Karin, juugo and Suigetsu or else he be dead.
Shokamaru was saved by Temari.
Tsunade was saved by Naruto.
So because Sakura worked with Chiyo she is a useless character, I love that logic.

you missed my point. the point i tried to make as obvious as posible. Sakura, is, weak. I have no idea why several of you guys are trying to dispute that.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 07:51 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jun 12 2012, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you missed my point. the point i tried to make as obvious as posible. Sakura, is, weak. I have no idea why several of you guys are trying to dispute that.


That's because she isn't weak. She may not be on the same level as Naruto, Sasuke, Itachi or Madara, but she is still very strong in her own right.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 07:51 PM

I think everyone here is getting too tensed up here. So let's just all calm down, find out what the two sides want and settle on the basis of conditions. Also to listen to this song which could help calm the tension down and could be applied to one of the themes of Naruto.


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Posted 12 June 2012 - 07:56 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jun 12 2012, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You act like you can speak for everyone, but you do not now, nor will you ever have the authority to do that.

QUOTE (Branden @ Jun 12 2012, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I think your both insane.

QUOTE (Branden @ Jun 12 2012, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then don't use words that describe everyone on here so easily, unless your message is to everyone on here. More importantly, DO NOT speak for them. Everyone here has there own opinion.

QUOTE (Branden @ Jun 12 2012, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
spell my name right, then ill speak with you, until then your being ignored.

Fix your tone. Fix your attitude. Talk to people without the condensation and RUDENESS or you WILL be silenced on this forum.

One and only warning.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 07:58 PM

QUOTE (TerrorKing @ Jun 12 2012, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's because she isn't weak. She may not be on the same level as Naruto, Sasuke, Itachi or Madara, but she is still very strong in her own right.

The level that Naruto is on is strong. The level that the Kage, the Akatsuki, Itachi, and Tobi are on would be considered stronger. Madara of course is the strongest.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:05 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jun 12 2012, 09:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The level that Naruto is on is strong. The level that the Kage, the Akatsuki, Itachi, and Tobi are on would be considered stronger. Madara of course is the strongest.


Ever since Pain's invasion, Naruto been more than "strong". In fact, he is now on a completely different level from everyone else. The same goes for Sasuke, Itachi, Tobi, Madara and the Kage. Anything below that is "strong", including Sakura.

This is all just personal opinon of course.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:06 PM

Well, Sakura has already proven she can fight on Akatsuki level, even with Chiyo to help. She would need help *just like everyone else* against people like Madara or Pein especially, just like... everyone else. She probably could get Pein as beat up as Naruto did though. Or Jiraiya.

But last I say on the topic, Sakura is strong. You can't compare her to people like Naruto, Sasuke or the others. She's not meant to be compared to them at all.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:24 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jun 12 2012, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you missed my point. the point i tried to make as obvious as posible. Sakura, is, weak. I have no idea why several of you guys are trying to dispute that.


I totally get it now. You are one of those anti-Sakura shippers who believes she's weak and has no role in the manga, only to be a horny Sasuke fan-girl. I'm not labeling you a NH and SS shipper, but this is not the place to go rambling about how pathetic Sakura's character might be. Take it some place else or else a repeat of the previous thread might happen with this one.


QUOTE (kirabook @ Jun 12 2012, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, Sakura has already proven she can fight on Akatsuki level, even with Chiyo to help. She would need help *just like everyone else* against people like Madara or Pein especially, just like... everyone else. She probably could get Pein as beat up as Naruto did though. Or Jiraiya.

But last I say on the topic, Sakura is strong. You can't compare her to people like Naruto, Sasuke or the others. She's not meant to be compared to them at all.


No but, by right, she should be near her teammates' level. The problem Kishi has is that he won't make a power house Kunoichi in Naruto's generation that we already seen from Jiraiya to Kakashi's generation. But I'm hopping he proves me wrong that either she can do Sage Mode or surprise us with a potent Gen-Justu. After all, she is closing in on Naruto and Tobi, which she could demonstrate the course of her abilities, never before seen in the manga.

Edited by Konoha'sCrimsonFox, 12 June 2012 - 08:39 PM.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:26 PM

I don't really think that's what he's trying to say CrimsonFox.

He probably does see her in a more useless light though.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:37 PM

Are we debating about the NS pairing or who's strong or weak?
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:44 PM

Seems more like weighing Sakura's strength against others debate.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:45 PM

QUOTE (kirabook @ Jun 12 2012, 10:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't really think that's what he's trying to say CrimsonFox.

He probably does see her in a more useless light though.


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QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jun 12 2012, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are we debating about the NS pairing or who's strong or weak?


For the time being, who is strong or weak... Depends how far Mr. Brandon is willing to debate off topic.


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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:46 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jun 12 2012, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are we debating about the NS pairing or who's strong or weak?


Graven's right. Let's get back on topic before what happens with the other debate threads happens with this one. To start a different topic, is anyone else anxious to see what'll happen when Sakura and Naruto next meet?! argh1.png argh1.png

Hehe perhaps another hug if Naruto's injured enough pictureem0.gif *awaits N/S fanservice*

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:51 PM

QUOTE (Pikachew @ Jun 12 2012, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Graven's right. Let's get back on topic before what happens with the other debate threads happens with this one. To start a different topic, is anyone else anxious to see what'll happen when Sakura and Naruto next meet?! argh1.png argh1.png

Hehe perhaps another hug if Naruto's injured enough pictureem0.gif *awaits N/S fanservice*

Fair enough, but I don't think we will see anymore hugs till after Naruto fights Sasuke. I suspect this NS development will be a teamwork to fight against Tobi and the remaining Biiju.

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