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#13101 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 12:48 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Mar 21 2013, 07:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But the point is why is he bringing up part 1 events??? does he include recent events such as Sasuke's murder attempts affecting her opinion of Sasuke??

Why not? He needs to describe every moments and explain the overall of the relationship. That's like skipping part 1 for NS, you need to explain everything that has been presented in the manga. Otherwise, it will be seen as biased criticism. Part 2 is of course the continuation but part 1 did in happen so it needs to be addressed.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 12:53 PM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Mar 21 2013, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I also have to wonder.... what about Obito's?? Obito's love is probably the manga's most interesting subplot because of how it completely affects the story. I definitely would like to see the critic has to say about it. Also, if possible, I'd like to see him analyze in-depth how Kakashi is tied into all this. Might as well speculate on KakaRin.

I'd also like to say that there's definitely more to Obito's plan on seeing Rin again. Something tells me he still has one last ulterior motive.


He does care about Kakashi but the fact is that he doesnt care about the reality anymore.
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Posted 21 March 2013 - 01:05 PM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Mar 21 2013, 01:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I also have to wonder.... what about Obito's?? Obito's love is probably the manga's most interesting subplot because of how it completely affects the story. I definitely would like to see the critic has to say about it. Also, if possible, I'd like to see him analyze in-depth how Kakashi is tied into all this. Might as well speculate on KakaRin.

I'd also like to say that there's definitely more to Obito's plan on seeing Rin again. Something tells me he still has one last ulterior motive.

Kakashi is his best friend, and probably the only one alive in his heart.
Kakashi/Obito is same relationship as Naruto/Sasuke and Madara/Hashirama. Even if they're evil, they can't lie to themselve.
The way that Obito is thinking about Kakashi, the way Sasuke is thinking of Naruto, and the way Madara sees Hashirama.

Even in th elast chapters, even with his hate towards Hashirama, he would be happy to die if it's Hashirama himself who gives the final blow
And right now, he setting him on a piedestal, that he's the greatest shinobi of all time.

A great friendship and admiration from Madara. And it works probably the same as for the two other relationships.
Kakashi who sees Obito as a hero, Naruto who sees Sasuke as a model.

They are more than big friends, they are family, brothers.


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 01:32 PM

QUOTE (Sojobo @ Mar 21 2013, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kakashi is his best friend, and probably the only one alive in his heart.
Kakashi/Obito is same relationship as Naruto/Sasuke and Madara/Hashirama. Even if they're evil, they can't lie to themselve.
The way that Obito is thinking about Kakashi, the way Sasuke is thinking of Naruto, and the way Madara sees Hashirama.

Even in th elast chapters, even with his hate towards Hashirama, he would be happy to die if it's Hashirama himself who gives the final blow
And right now, he setting him on a piedestal, that he's the greatest shinobi of all time.

A great friendship and admiration from Madara. And it works probably the same as for the two other relationships.
Kakashi who sees Obito as a hero, Naruto who sees Sasuke as a model.

They are more than big friends, they are family, brothers.


That's a very good analysis of Madara and Obito. And it makes a whole lotta sense too.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 06:21 PM

Who is willing to bet that there will be one massive tag team for the grand battle?

Hashirama and Madara, will fight but I can tell Kakashi will feel the same fate as naruto, facing a friend who is bringing the world to an end, Sasuke will get redeemtion but no clue on obito. I'm betting that what makes the climax is when Kakashi, minato, and Sasuke find out about obito being the cause of both the nine tails attack and ultimately the uchiha clan massacre. It was suspicion after the nine tails attack that led to the massacre 7 years later.

All I want to see is naruto and minato face to face again. Kakashi has a big role in facing obito. It's going to be the best sharingan battle since they can hit the same dimension.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 06:24 PM

QUOTE (Inferno180 @ Mar 21 2013, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Who is willing to bet that there will be one massive tag team for the grand battle?

Hashirama and Madara, will fight but I can tell Kakashi will feel the same fate as naruto, facing a friend who is bringing the world to an end, Sasuke will get redeemtion but no clue on obito. I'm betting that what makes the climax is when Kakashi, minato, and Sasuke find out about obito being the cause of both the nine tails attack and ultimately the uchiha clan massacre. It was suspicion after the nine tails attack that led to the massacre 7 years later.

All I want to see is naruto and minato face to face again. Kakashi has a big role in facing obito. It's going to be the best sharingan battle since they can hit the same dimension.

If Minato can show up in a flash, sure. Otherwise, I do rather have kages sideline. I want the generation of ninja alliance to prove that they are strong when united as one. Kages, especially the first, will be so proud.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 06:39 PM

Right now there are so many combo fights possible it's ridicolous.

Madara Hashirama Kakashi Obito Naruto Sasuke because duh
Madara Naruto paralleling with Sasuke Hashirama
Obito Naruto because they are the same.
Minato Naruto (or any of the Hokages) because we don't know if orochimaru will let the Hokages join the war.

Edited by Dkey, 21 March 2013 - 09:14 PM.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 05:39 AM

Has anyone else noticed that both Hiro and Kishi like the idea of yellow x pink?



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Is it just a coincidence or does yellow x pink have some kind of Japanese symbolism?

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:42 AM

no color signifigance im aware of ebyond the fact that stylsiticly they go together. yellow + pink = orange
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Posted 22 March 2013 - 09:32 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 20 2013, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can see Hinata being the one to move on in terms this fans love triangle (yeah I said it). She seems to be more understandable character to move on while others look like they can feel bad for losing another.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 09:35 AM

QUOTE (Branden @ Mar 22 2013, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Has anyone else noticed that both Hiro and Kishi like the idea of yellow x pink?



because of a weird error the images stopped working, use these links instead :
fairytail
naruto



Is it just a coincidence or does yellow x pink have some kind of Japanese symbolism?


Am I the only one that actually thinks NaLu is actually a big TAKE THAT!! to Kishi from Hiro??

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 09:53 AM

@Codus N lol!
So is this kizuna book supposed to be the databook 4?

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 10:04 AM

QUOTE (Branden @ Mar 22 2013, 06:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Has anyone else noticed that both Hiro and Kishi like the idea of yellow x pink?



because of a weird error the images stopped working, use these links instead :
fairytail
naruto



Is it just a coincidence or does yellow x pink have some kind of Japanese symbolism?


i always thought that japanese like those things like pink haired girls and yellow haired boys/girls things that are not standard you know. i was hoping on that atleast Narusaku fits that bill xD but i can be wrong

PS is this the new book?
http://romizoh373.de...-Soon-355686440

if so i dont see Hinata on cover

Edited by Arachnia, 22 March 2013 - 10:07 AM.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 10:39 AM

QUOTE (Canadian_DJ @ Mar 22 2013, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@Codus N lol!
So is this kizuna book supposed to be the databook 4?


These books aren't a databook. It's just a gathering of analysis about some panels made by 2 famouse manga critics, the one by a japanese critic (for the first book, the "heaven scroll") and the other by a french manga critic (for the second book, the "earth scroll"). So they aren't official since they haven't been made by Kishimoto himself. But it's still nice see the manga analyzed by unbiased people, at least I hope so.

It's inevitable talking about triangle between Naruto, Sakura and Sakura. The same for Naruto and Hinata.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:39 AM

I so want to read those books!

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 12:59 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Mar 22 2013, 07:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
These books aren't a databook. It's just a gathering of analysis about some panels made by 2 famouse manga critics, the one by a japanese critic (for the first book, the "heaven scroll") and the other by a french manga critic (for the second book, the "earth scroll"). So they aren't official since they haven't been made by Kishimoto himself. But it's still nice see the manga analyzed by unbiased people, at least I hope so.

It's inevitable talking about triangle between Naruto, Sakura and Sakura. The same for Naruto and Hinata.

I think it'll even cover some about Sakura and Lee.

I stand by what I said, NaruHina is a glorified LeeSaku. The reason it is more popular is because Hinata loves the main character and her story centers mostly on that.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 01:23 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Mar 22 2013, 10:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
These books aren't a databook. It's just a gathering of analysis about some panels made by 2 famouse manga critics, the one by a japanese critic (for the first book, the "heaven scroll") and the other by a french manga critic (for the second book, the "earth scroll"). So they aren't official since they haven't been made by Kishimoto himself. But it's still nice see the manga analyzed by unbiased people, at least I hope so.

It's inevitable talking about triangle between Naruto, Sakura and Sakura. The same for Naruto and Hinata.


So the French guy is going to do the "love" part? I sort of wanted it to be the Japanese critic.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 01:55 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Mar 22 2013, 07:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
These books aren't a databook. It's just a gathering of analysis about some panels made by 2 famouse manga critics, the one by a japanese critic (for the first book, the "heaven scroll") and the other by a french manga critic (for the second book, the "earth scroll"). So they aren't official since they haven't been made by Kishimoto himself. But it's still nice see the manga analyzed by unbiased people, at least I hope so.

It's inevitable talking about triangle between Naruto, Sakura and Sakura. The same for Naruto and Hinata.

the french guy is the one who made the interview.
Amazon does not say that the french guy did the second volume the only thing that is said is that the interview was done by the editor-chief of euromanga.

QUOTE (Chatte @ Mar 22 2013, 08:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I so want to read those books!

Buy it $15.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 01:56 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 22 2013, 01:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If Minato can show up in a flash, sure. Otherwise, I do rather have kages sideline. I want the generation of ninja alliance to prove that they are strong when united as one. Kages, especially the first, will be so proud.


Yeah, that's what I hope for too. I think the Hokages should stay out of this fight and leave it to the current generation. Except for Minato of course, because I want to see him reunite with his son one last time. Not only that, he also probably has Kurama's other chakra half if it hasn't returned to him yet, so he needs to finish that one last duty. Not only that, I still have the theory that Minato will break out of ET thanks to Naruto's seal. So all he needs is a split second to escape and use Naruto's seal to cancel the jutsu.

Another reason why Minato should be the only one left of the Hokages is because of two reasons: Tsunade is practically on her deathbed and no one is capable enough to replace her. Even if Kakashi is a prime candidate, he'll probably refuse adamantly because of very obvious reasons. Someone also needs to tell Naruto and Sakura, Kakashi's students about Kakashi and Obito's history and to the rest of the Kages, I might add, since they'd be asking why wouldn't Kakashi accept the position. I don't think there's anyone more fitting than Minato himself to tell the story.


QUOTE (AzureWaters @ Mar 22 2013, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So the French guy is going to do the "love" part? I sort of wanted it to be the Japanese critic.


I know for a fact that the US is heavily biased towards NH, but I wonder about Europe....

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 01:58 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 22 2013, 02:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the french guy is the one who made the interview.
Amazon does not say that the french guy did the second volume the only thing that is said is that the interview was done by the editor-chief of euromanga.


Buy it $15.


I checked now... You're right, my bad... So the 2 books are analyzed by the japanese guy...

QUOTE (Chatte @ Mar 22 2013, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I so want to read those books!


Maybe I will do it next week...

Edited by 六道仙人, 22 March 2013 - 02:00 PM.

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