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#13081 Musicmanoful

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 03:03 AM

Sorry for going off topic and i hope this wasnt talked about before but there was this naruhina fan on tumblr saying that NS got trolled because of 617 (Hinata healing Naruto instead of sakura).

Personally, I can't help but feel that kishi did this on purpose (sakura's absence) in order to set something up for her.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 03:04 AM

QUOTE (Musicmanoful @ Mar 20 2013, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry for going off topic and i hope this wasnt talked about before but there was this naruhina fan on tumblr saying that NS got trolled because of 617 (Hinata healing Naruto instead of sakura).

Personally, I can't help but feel that kishi did this on purpose (sakura's absence) in order to set something up for her.

Thoughts?

Same here. It's obvious that there's something up and we will see it soon.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 03:08 AM

QUOTE (Musicmanoful @ Mar 20 2013, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry for going off topic and i hope this wasnt talked about before but there was this naruhina fan on tumblr saying that NS got trolled because of 617 (Hinata healing Naruto instead of sakura).

Personally, I can't help but feel that kishi did this on purpose (sakura's absence) in order to set something up for her.

Thoughts?

It would have been such an easy moment for him to go, "See? There's Sakura's shining moment in this war! Character development, done!"
And yet he didn't, which seriously makes me feel that he's saving something much bigger for her.

Edited by Baguette, 21 March 2013 - 03:09 AM.


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 04:33 AM

QUOTE (Musicmanoful @ Mar 21 2013, 09:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry for going off topic and i hope this wasnt talked about before but there was this naruhina fan on tumblr saying that NS got trolled because of 617 (Hinata healing Naruto instead of sakura).

Personally, I can't help but feel that kishi did this on purpose (sakura's absence) in order to set something up for her.

Thoughts?

its obvious naruto told sakura to heal others first. as she was busy so she couldnt heal naruto . so hinata took the chance.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 05:18 AM

QUOTE (narulsaku @ Mar 21 2013, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
its obvious naruto told sakura to heal others first. as she was busy so she couldnt heal naruto . so hinata took the chance.

Can't see this happening, sorry, everyone's already been healed.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 05:24 AM

QUOTE (Musicmanoful @ Mar 20 2013, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry for going off topic and i hope this wasnt talked about before but there was this naruhina fan on tumblr saying that NS got trolled because of 617 (Hinata healing Naruto instead of sakura).

Personally, I can't help but feel that kishi did this on purpose (sakura's absence) in order to set something up for her.

Thoughts?


It definitely was intentional from my perspective. Just about everyone noticed it, something Kishi probably guessed what would happen. And I wouldn't technically call this a damaging troll at all. Hinata was an underdeveloped character and still is if we're being literal, so why not cram a bunch of development in these few chapters and get it over and done with? I've said it before, I'll say it again. This War Arc has been dedicated to developing side characters from the start, Kishi's just continuing it. This is Hinata and most minor characters' last chance to shine. Since we got the big 615, finish it with a small popping shoulder back into place type of thing? Still, it's not like Pierrot's asspull logic of Hinata knowing medical ninjutsu. Sakura still has her professional healing arts that Hinata doesn't. After all, putting a shoulder back into place is pretty basic. Not much of a cause of concern. mellow.gif

Sakura's getting something bigger since she's the heroine. Still betting on that bigger development being related to Obito and Rin somehow. a_plotting.gif

And I never fail to notice this glaring double stand: The so-called "troll" in 617 is nothing compared to the one in 616. 615 was a massive NH moment, then downplayed immediately next chapter. Instead of criticizing us of getting trolled over a minor moment, they should look to themselves in 616. Arguing something weak like that is not smart IMO, it's better to say nothing at all. facepalm.png

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 05:46 AM

You know I just reread 615 and I realized Naruto grabbing Hinata's hand lasted only a brief moment while he charged himself up then jumped away.

This poorly animated gif depicts what I believe happened in that situation.

I don't see anything romantic about it, that is assuming you think that this is an accurate representation of what happened.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 06:12 AM

QUOTE (Branden @ Mar 20 2013, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know I just reread 615 and I realized Naruto grabbing Hinata's hand lasted only a brief moment while he charged himself up then jumped away.

This poorly animated gif depicts what I believe happened in that situation.

I don't see anything romantic about it, that is assuming you think that this is an accurate representation of what happened.

You know that the anime will probably extend it for much longer, right?

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 07:44 AM

Here you guys go: http://www.narutoget...-road-to-ninja/ the raw

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 09:18 AM

QUOTE (Musicmanoful @ Mar 21 2013, 03:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry for going off topic and i hope this wasnt talked about before but there was this naruhina fan on tumblr saying that NS got trolled because of 617 (Hinata healing Naruto instead of sakura).

Personally, I can't help but feel that kishi did this on purpose (sakura's absence) in order to set something up for her.

Thoughts?


Wait, wasn't she healing kakashi at the time?? Otherwise she was absent, most likely going to tsunade.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:00 AM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Mar 20 2013, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, it seems that the chapter Seven, about "Love", will regarding Sakura and Naruto. The sentence along her is "I'm sorry...Naruto...I...That impossible dream of yours....I don't want to see it crushed!!" (chapter 43 ndr)

Let's hope it takes a good amount of that chapter at the very least since they decided to choose that particular phrase instead of when Sakura claimed she would be just as lonely as Sasuke if he wasn't around. That confession really rubbed me the wrong way in certain parts.

By the way here are some panels that will be connected to that chapter:



It seems it will refer to the different kinds of love as well. Itachi's love for his family, Sakura's "love" for Sasuke, Sakura's care for Lee, and so on as the panels above indicate. Could anyone tell me when did the panel with Ino, Sakura and Lee happened? He's obviously in his medical robes because of his injuries but I can't pinpoint when that happened. Or at least let me know what they say in that panel.

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Never mind about the chapter, I found it. It's 93

Edited by redragon88, 21 March 2013 - 10:44 AM.


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:10 AM

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Mar 21 2013, 11:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can't see this happening, sorry, everyone's already been healed.

yes but its war nothing can be said.
@branden- i think it was just for chakra transefer, not romantisim. how many time it comes to thd debate thread!
and about the penal i am totaly ignorant can someone explain?

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:14 AM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Mar 21 2013, 03:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know that the anime will probably extend it for much longer, right?

3 episodes with 1 only with flashbacks.
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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:45 AM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Mar 21 2013, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Let's hope it takes a good amount of that chapter at the very least since they decided to choose that particular phrase instead of when Sakura claimed she would be just as lonely as Sasuke if he wasn't around. That confession really rubbed me the wrong way in certain parts.

By the way here are some panels that will be connected to that chapter:



It seems it will refer to the different kinds of love as well. Itachi's love for his family, Sakura's "love" for Sasuke, Sakura's care for Lee, and so on as the panels above indicate. Could anyone tell me when did the panel with Ino, Sakura and Lee happened? He's obviously in his medical robes because of his injuries but I can't pinpoint when that happened. Or at least let me know what they say in that panel.


Oh great.. More SS focus dry.gif

Look how cute they are.... she's confessing her childish selfish crush again AWWWWW!!!! mad.gif

Look at that! she said she'd be lonely without Sasuke AWWWW wot.gif

Yep bring on the SS bais!!! pictureem0.gif


Edited by HauntedCake, 21 March 2013 - 10:48 AM.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 11:24 AM

@HauntedCake

Dude, that chapter covers all the types of love. Sakura's love for Sasuke was going to inevitably show up. If I was in charge of that book even I wouldn't hesitate to include them. Those feelings are a huge part of her character development.

But keep in mind that the poster representing the chapter is referencing Sakura's opinion of Naruto so that could probably be the main focus in that chapter.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 11:26 AM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Mar 21 2013, 08:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@HauntedCake

Dude, that chapter covers all the types of love. Sakura's love for Sasuke was going to inevitably show up. If I was in charge of that book even I wouldn't hesitate to include them. Those feelings are a huge part of her character development.

But keep in mind that the poster representing the chapter is referencing Sakura's opinion of Naruto so that could probably be the main focus in that chapter.

actually the main focus is the love triangle "Naruto Sakura and Sasuke" he pinpouted her confession to Sasuke because later it needs to bring up again to explain what happened with her character.
there are a lot of things that she claimed on that confession that turned out to be untrue.
Like saying she would feel lonely, that she cant be happy without him and so on, she even tried to leave everything behind to go with Sasuke.
I dont say that her feelings are played a major part of her development but the fact that her will to protect Naruto and Sasuke and also her will to help Naruto is that played the major part of her development.

Other parts are respective to other kinds of love but there is a great ammount for panels about this love triangle.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 21 March 2013 - 11:29 AM.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 11:58 AM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 21 2013, 11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
actually the main focus is the love triangle "Naruto Sakura and Sasuke" he pinpouted her confession to Sasuke because later it needs to bring up again to explain what happened with her character.
there are a lot of things that she claimed on that confession that turned out to be untrue.
Like saying she would feel lonely, that she cant be happy without him and so on, she even tried to leave everything behind to go with Sasuke.
I dont say that her feelings are played a major part of her development but the fact that her will to protect Naruto and Sasuke and also her will to help Naruto is that played the major part of her development.

Other parts are respective to other kinds of love but there is a great ammount for panels about this love triangle.


But the point is why is he bringing up part 1 events??? does he include recent events such as Sasuke's murder attempts affecting her opinion of Sasuke??

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 12:10 PM

http://shinsho.shuei...jp/kikan/v-029/

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http://shinsho.shuei...jp/kikan/v-028/

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 12:21 PM

Maybe I'll buy these, I've a great curiosity... Moreover there'is an interview from Kishimoto too...

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 12:43 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Mar 21 2013, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@HauntedCake

Dude, that chapter covers all the types of love. Sakura's love for Sasuke was going to inevitably show up. If I was in charge of that book even I wouldn't hesitate to include them. Those feelings are a huge part of her character development.

But keep in mind that the poster representing the chapter is referencing Sakura's opinion of Naruto so that could probably be the main focus in that chapter.


I also have to wonder.... what about Obito's?? Obito's love is probably the manga's most interesting subplot because of how it completely affects the story. I definitely would like to see the critic has to say about it. Also, if possible, I'd like to see him analyze in-depth how Kakashi is tied into all this. Might as well speculate on KakaRin.

I'd also like to say that there's definitely more to Obito's plan on seeing Rin again. Something tells me he still has one last ulterior motive.

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