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#13061 TacticalFox88

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 06:44 AM

NaruHina rage coming in 3...2...1...

 

RAGE!!!

Oh boy. I almost feel sorry for them. There whole world they've built up for the past ten years is going to come SHATTERING down near the end of the manga. 



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Posted 12 January 2014 - 07:04 AM

Oh boy. I almost feel sorry for them. There whole world they've built up for the past ten years is going to come SHATTERING down near the end of the manga. 

It already has as far as I can tell. NH never existed to me. It was just a pairing made up of bias claims and beliefs. Were it not for the anime, I doubt NH would even exist. 



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Posted 12 January 2014 - 07:22 AM

You guys think they'll ever be a full explanation for Sasuke's "thanks for everything" to Sakura line?

 

Also do you think it will be Sasuke who pushes Sakura to Naruto? I really hope not, I hope its something she realizes on her own, maybe Naruto gets hurt bad and she's like "As time passed my feelings grew for you and now I fully realize I love you etc…"

 

And just double checking but the next chapter comes out on the 15th right?



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Posted 12 January 2014 - 07:52 AM

You guys think they'll ever be a full explanation for Sasuke's "thanks for everything" to Sakura line?
 
Also do you think it will be Sasuke who pushes Sakura to Naruto? I really hope not, I hope its something she realizes on her own, maybe Naruto gets hurt bad and she's like "As time passed my feelings grew for you and now I fully realize I love you etc"
 
And just double checking but the next chapter comes out on the 15th right?


That's the latest it will come out, we might see it monday or tuesday if we are lucky tho

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 08:22 AM

So. With the new chapter coming in a few days, let's just all be prepared for disappointment and be cynics. 

 

It's the only way I'll swallow the idea of a golden opportunity for a NaruSaku moment not being taken advantage of.

 

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 09:30 AM

You guys think they'll ever be a full explanation for Sasuke's "thanks for everything" to Sakura line?

 

Also do you think it will be Sasuke who pushes Sakura to Naruto? I really hope not, I hope its something she realizes on her own, maybe Naruto gets hurt bad and she's like "As time passed my feelings grew for you and now I fully realize I love you etc…"

 

And just double checking but the next chapter comes out on the 15th right?

There is no need for an explanation. It's clear that the "thank you" meant "thank you for trying to stop me/ for being here for me/for all you gave me". 

 

And no I don't see why Sasuke would push Sakura towards Naruto. I don't know if you meant that, but if you're implying that Sakura would still try to get with Sasuke, but this one would actually push her towards Naruto instead, then I highly disagree, there is little to no chance for Sakura to still be trying to get Sasuke. She's already starting to fall out for him in my opinion. So she doesn't need him to go towards Naruto. She will do that on her own.

The only character I couls view trying to help her with her feelings is Sai, he's the one who's the most involved in her love life, concerning both, Naruto and Sasuke. 


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 10:14 AM

Can you elaborate more on what this two scenes means especially the bolded ones please and thank you :smile:

The second means that he didnt insulted her, the "you're annoying" was more of a tease or in other words, it was like acknowledgement.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 10:20 AM

It was never stated in any book that she doesn't really loves him, on the contrary it says she loves him by using the word "suki", but the databook say she loves him because she admires him. She doesn't admire him more than she loves him, it's just that admiration is the reason of her love for him.
But I agree that the fact she's not in the love section of kizuna books speaks for itself, her love is not Big True Love like people are always saying, it's the principale reason why they are rooting for NH, always saying "Hinata's love is pure, it's true love yada yada", but funny thing that when a critic talks about love in Naruto, he's talking about Naruto/Sakura, Sakura/Sasuke and even Lee/Sakura, but randomly no Hinata... I wonder why? (ironcal)
To me, it proves that her place is not that big in the love subplot. her love for Narut is her personnal deal as a side character. It has no impact on the real plot, while Sakura's feelings for both Naruto and Sasuke have an impact on the main plot, since the 3 of them are main characters.


Actually that's not relevant, on Haioyre Nyraruko-san, Nyaruko has used suki, daisuki and aikitteneru to express her love for Mahiro and she did that a lot of different scenario, she used daisuki then later suki, used aikitteneru then later suki and daisuki, she used suki then later daisuki etc...

I'm sorry but that's not actually relevant, the fact that NH hasnt had any "love moment" is because it never had a pressure of anything, there's no crisis, or a moment where Hinata is forced to renounce something she holds dear in favour of Naruto, giving up her life is something that Neji also did and he explained everyone of Naruto's friends would do, i'm talking about her giving up a dream or something like that.
Also all her moments had to do with inspiration, on Pain she tells how her love for Naruto made her a better person, on part 1, both of them inspired each other, Hinata when Naruto was going to fight Neji and during Hinata's fight against Neji, back to part 2, during the war arc, on how Hinata got confidence when thinking about Naruto, and later on the handholding moment, she helped Naruto to overcome Neji's death, and ended with him acknowledging her, there's nothing else aside from that.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 10:41 AM

I think the focus in this volume would about jinchuriki (naruto, garra, killer bee) or narusaku(yes, I meant it).

and maybe in the next chapter there would be no narusaku or even sakura apperance, just saying.



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Posted 12 January 2014 - 11:52 AM

She does it in order to protect Naruto’s dream which is to become Hokage, even if it was not her own. Naruto’s dream has become Sakura’s own.

I love that part, especially the "Naruto's dream has become Sakura's own".

It's a powerful sentence, saying that Naruto's dream became Sakura's own, it's like a woman who follows her husband's path.

 

Come on Saku-chan, try to realise your love for Naruto next week, kay?


Edited by Sojobo, 12 January 2014 - 12:18 PM.


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 12:31 PM

Well, I didn"t take it like that, but I guess it works too. I thought the critic said that Sakura didn't really love Naruto, that she still loved Sasuke and so it caused her pain to do this confession. But as a NS fan, I prefer your interpretation of the critic's words.

 

I think the pain that was referred to was about pretending to not to care about Sasuke. She imposed pain on herself by giving up on Team 7 ever being together again.

 

And I see the critic saying those aren't Sakura's true feelings because of the way Sakura chose to do the confession. She approached it like as in a logistical way. She simply stated why, in paper, Naruto is awesome and Sasuke sucks, therefore wanting to justify her feelings for Naruto. But Naruto knew better than to just accept such a weak confession.

 

Naruto believes that if Sakura is ever to fall for him that she should express her feelings from the heart, not because of the circumstances, which is how she did with during the Summit arc.

 

I think the point of the confession was to show that Sakura already has a conscious desire to be with Naruto, but that until she understands why in her heart (her subconscious) she wants to be with Naruto it's not gonna happen yet.



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Posted 12 January 2014 - 01:24 PM

You guys think they'll ever be a full explanation for Sasuke's "thanks for everything" to Sakura line?
 
Also do you think it will be Sasuke who pushes Sakura to Naruto? I really hope not, I hope its something she realizes on her own, maybe Naruto gets hurt bad and she's like "As time passed my feelings grew for you and now I fully realize I love you etc"
 
And just double checking but the next chapter comes out on the 15th right?

No need. It doesn't leave a follow up. It's just what it is: thank you for your help. What more do you want? No one is questioning. From databook to the actual manga itself, no one questioned what does it mean. It only show that he's still human, even if his path is different.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 02:06 PM

I hear a lot of NS fans mentionning Uniqlo's OVA for chapter 661. But I also see a link with Jiraiya's novel, when the sensei ask the heroine to look deep inside her heart and realize what's the most important thing to her. That scene can be added to the Uniqlo also for chapter 661.

 

Sakura realizing that Naruto is her Sun, like he did for his dad and his mom.



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Posted 12 January 2014 - 02:13 PM

I hear a lot of NS fans mentionning Uniqlo's OVA for chapter 661. But I also see a link with Jiraiya's novel, when the sensei ask the heroine to look deep inside her heart and realize what's the most important thing to her. That scene can be added to the Uniqlo also for chapter 661.
 
Sakura realizing that Naruto is her Sun, like he did for his dad and his mom.

That OVA moment could happen but not in the next chapter. It seems like the end of the arc more than anything. I really do believe we are being set up for much more glory than chapter 450.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 02:19 PM

While the Hokages faces on the monument aren't as detailed as they look the pictures of them hanged to the walls in the Hokages office are . Every one knows who the Hokages are its their history they are bound to know it that's way they have a Hokage monument and even the fodders know who they are .I'll grant you the fact that she hasn't met him before but he still looks the same in the picture hanged in the Hokages office and that's where Sakura spends her time working when she's not on a mission you can't miss them . On the fact that she was to surprised and didn't think straight in that momment , on this i will very much agree it's the best most logical option cus even when Minato tells her his name she has no time to react cus he tells them to prepare for the blast and in that moment she note that he's an EDO and worries about it and then we have our NS scene. But like i said in my previous post this doesn't bother me that much cus i liked/loved their little Father in law and Daughter in law conversation but it could have been done better in the beginning.

 

Not reacting to the dad part , now this's what bothers me you can not tell me that missing this moment/opportunity is not important cus 

1. Its Naruto's father the person he loves , admires the most , aspires to be , and he never get the chance to spend time wit him as father and son since the day he was born.

2. Sakura the girl Naruto's in love the girl that cares,worries about him the most , its most protective of him and i would even say loves him not showing any kind of a reaction on this matter (even tough she did all of this in RTN) is a very bad thing for NS and its not who Sakura is when it comes to Naruto

 

Moving on to your points about this question

1,There is canon evidence that support this or she wouldn't have said " Who is he..? " . 2. I really hope either this happens or she still is not aware of it and will find out about it now when Naruto is semi dead or dying and this is where we see her reaction. 3. My 1&2 points shows why this's bad . 4 I didn't said that she should care whether or not he's the 4-Hokage or a villager i said that she should show us that she cares for the reason a stated in my 1&2 points.       

 

Well it's minor detail so I wouldn't make to big of a deal about it.

 

Well it possible Sakura will address the dad part later. When the Hokages depart and she joins Naruto in his goodbye to his dad, but that depends if Orochimaru intends to let them go or Sakura will bring it up with Naruto in a private conversation and who knows Kushina might be brought up.



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Posted 12 January 2014 - 02:33 PM

Naruto is awesome and Sasuke sucks

 

Your entire post was great, but the part above actually made me laugh out loud because it's, you know, so true.   :yes:



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Posted 12 January 2014 - 04:05 PM

The second means that he didnt insulted her, the "you're annoying" was more of a tease or in other words, it was like acknowledgement.

I always took it like a rejection of her Immature feelings of love for him but also as an acknowledgement of her as a team mate and as a friend.    

 

Well it's minor detail so I wouldn't make to big of a deal about it.

 

Well it possible Sakura will address the dad part later. When the Hokages depart and she joins Naruto in his goodbye to his dad, but that depends if Orochimaru intends to let them go or Sakura will bring it up with Naruto in a private conversation and who knows Kushina might be brought up.

I say its bound to happen and there are so many ways that it can , but there can be no NS if Sakura doesn't know this things and doesn't confront him about it ,  who his parents are is an a important aspect of Naruto's life . I always thought that if Oro does keep the Hokages that he will put Minato to fight Naruto and in the process also resurrect Kushina , and Sakura finding out who they are will come to help Naruto by fighting Kushina and by that also form a bond with them as Naruto's special someone . But yes a private conversation between them about this matter needs to happen and it can't be done without Kushina being brought up        


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Posted 12 January 2014 - 04:42 PM

I always took it like a rejection of her Immature feelings of love for him but also as an acknowledgement of her as a team mate and as a friend.    

I say its bound to happen and there are so many ways that it can , but there can be no NS if Sakura doesn't know this things and doesn't confront him about it ,  who his parents are is an a important aspect of Naruto's life . I always thought that if Oro does keep the Hokages that he will put Minato to fight Naruto and in the process also resurrect Kushina , and Sakura finding out who they are will come to help Naruto by fighting Kushina and by that also form a bond with them as Naruto's special someone . But yes a private conversation between them about this matter needs to happen and it can't be done without Kushina being brought up        

 

I say if the Naruto and Sakura vs Minato and Kushina fight does happen it will be the best team up fight Naruto and Sakura can get.



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Posted 12 January 2014 - 04:49 PM

I say if the Naruto and Sakura vs Minato and Kushina fight does happen it will be the best team up fight Naruto and Sakura can get.

Only for shippers, i would prefer her and Naruto fighting Sasuke.
 

I always took it like a rejection of her Immature feelings of love for him but also as an acknowledgement of her as a team mate and as a friend.

In fact thoughout the manga, Sasuke never displayed love for Sakura romantically and it's shown it clearly on the manga, however his confession wasnt a rejection, Sasuke didnt rejected Sakura directly with a "i dont love you" and etc..
He simply said that his path was different than her and Naruto and that he chose revenge and to pursue his own path.
And because he didnt rejected her it's what kept Sakura loving Sasuke for too long, the feelings off "if Sasuke came back he would might love me" or "if he didnt chose revenge he would probably like me" Sakura was trapped on a illusion and her wishfull thinking of an hipothetical scenario( The "thank you" became some sort of hope for Sakura).
But his response wasnt a rejection either but he has shown thoughout his actions that he doesnt love her, we hope that she at least woke up.

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 05:19 PM

I like Sasuke. And Taka.... And original Team 7.... 

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