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Posted 21 March 2013 - 12:59 AM

QUOTE (Sojobo @ Mar 20 2013, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm really excited to see their reactions when NH will die. They will probably bashing Naruto for being a jerk, and they hating Sakura even more than before.
Sakura, the b*tch in their eyes who stole Hinata's hapiness.

Honestly, I just want Kishi to end all of his NH fanservice, no, just make an end of NH, so that we never have to deal again with this kind of fandom.
I really mean it, even if I have some good relationships with some of them, most of them are just annoying and subjective as hell.
Hinata is just perfect to them, and Sakura is a b*tch.


The best way is to ignore them, but I understand that sometimes, it is really difficult.
Like you I'm not a Hinata hater, just got a big problem with her fans.


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 01:13 AM

Ehi, guys! Remember these Kizuna books, divided in two scrolls which be out on 15th April? The "Heaven Scroll" and the "Earth scroll"? Well, they come out and seems that we have some little info about...

http://narutoworldbr...uto-kizuna.html

Here a brasilian links which talks about the two books. Unfornately they are in portuguese but they scanned some interesting page colors. As you can see, each page colors represent a character and his feature with a his famous sentence who have said in the manga.
For example,
the book "Scroll of Heaven" will have 5 chapters, 1st part of Kishimoto's interview and a compilation about some poses from the great Hero Jiraya and a rap from Killer Bee. The chapters are:

1)Conviction/Faith
2)Encouragement
3)Desire/Dream
4)Shinobi
5)Pride

The book "Scroll of Earth" will have the remainent 5 chapters, Naruto comics digest, the 2nd and last part of Kishimoto's interview. The chapters are regarding:

6)Will
7)Love
8)Darkness
9)Trust
10)Fighting spirit

Yeah, it seems that the chapter Seven, about "Love", will regarding Sakura and Naruto. The sentence along her is "I'm sorry...Naruto...I...That impossible dream of yours....I don't want to see it crushed!!" (chapter 43 ndr)

Thing are getting interesting here. Hope we get more info... If only I can buy them on Amazon sad.gif

Edited by 六道仙人, 21 March 2013 - 01:14 AM.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 01:21 AM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Mar 20 2013, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ehi, guys! Remember these Kizuna books, divided in two scrolls which be out on 15th April? The "Heaven Scroll" and the "Earth scroll"? Well, they come out and seems that we have some little info about...

http://narutoworldbr...uto-kizuna.html

Here a brasilian links which talks about the two books. Unfornately they are in portuguese but they scanned some interesting page colors. As you can see, each page colors represent a character and his feature with a his famous sentence who have said in the manga.
For example,
the book "Scroll of Heaven" will have 5 chapters, 1st part of Kishimoto's interview and a compilation about some poses from the great Hero Jiraya and a rap from Killer Bee. The chapters are:

1)Conviction/Faith
2)Encouragement
3)Desire/Dream
4)Shinobi
5)Pride

The book "Scroll of Earth" will have the remainent 5 chapters, Naruto comics digest, the 2nd and last part of Kishimoto's interview. The chapters are regarding:

6)Will
7)Love
8)Darkness
9)Trust
10)Fighting spirit

Yeah, it seems that the chapter Seven, about "Love", will regarding Sakura and Naruto. The sentence along her is "I'm sorry...Naruto...I...That impossible dream of yours....I don't want to see it crushed!!" (chapter 43 ndr)

Thing are getting interesting here. Hope we get more info... If only I can buy them on Amazon sad.gif

I'm brazillian aswell and i know the owner of the website, he does have a copy of the book and is able to read japanese the chapter love is the critic talking aobut Naruto Sakura and Sasuke love triangle.

what is written on the website it's just the interview.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 21 March 2013 - 01:22 AM.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 01:26 AM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Mar 20 2013, 09:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ehi, guys! Remember these Kizuna books, divided in two scrolls which be out on 15th April? The "Heaven Scroll" and the "Earth scroll"? Well, they come out and seems that we have some little info about...

http://narutoworldbr...uto-kizuna.html

Here a brasilian links which talks about the two books. Unfornately they are in portuguese but they scanned some interesting page colors. As you can see, each page colors represent a character and his feature with a his famous sentence who have said in the manga.
For example,
the book "Scroll of Heaven" will have 5 chapters, 1st part of Kishimoto's interview and a compilation about some poses from the great Hero Jiraya and a rap from Killer Bee. The chapters are:

1)Conviction/Faith
2)Encouragement
3)Desire/Dream
4)Shinobi
5)Pride

The book "Scroll of Earth" will have the remainent 5 chapters, Naruto comics digest, the 2nd and last part of Kishimoto's interview. The chapters are regarding:

6)Will
7)Love
8)Darkness
9)Trust
10)Fighting spirit

Yeah, it seems that the chapter Seven, about "Love", will regarding Sakura and Naruto. The sentence along her is "I'm sorry...Naruto...I...That impossible dream of yours....I don't want to see it crushed!!" (chapter 43 ndr)

Thing are getting interesting here. Hope we get more info... If only I can buy them on Amazon sad.gif

Very interesting indeed...

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 01:31 AM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 21 2013, 07:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm brazillian aswell and i know the owner of the website, he does have a copy of the book and is able to read japanese the chapter love is the critic talking aobut Naruto Sakura and Sasuke love triangle.

what is written on the website it's just the interview.

what are you sure its only the interview?

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 01:34 AM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Mar 20 2013, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Two things:

1) Bolded: What is she refering to when she says this?

2) your avatar pic is awesome love it biggrin.gif


1) Basically, she's referring to how he has been given all these insurmountable tasks, from saving Konoha to saving the entire ninja world. He tends to place all of these burdens solely upon himself. This time, she says, everyone will be there to fight alongside him.

2) Thanks. I sure love Google Images. tongue.gif


QUOTE (Inferno180 @ Mar 20 2013, 05:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just don't understand where these insane perceptions of hinata began and grew into such nonsense at times.

I don't hate hinata just her insane fan base that blows things out of proportion. So many arguments I came across have them saying narusaku is dead and use aspects of naruto giving up. Wait wait wait, they show evidence of him succeeding again and again but giving up on sakura, they lost their own reasoning in example like this. I just cannot wrap my head around how fans can just idolize a simple minor character who had little relevance to the main story and only plays a slightly bigger role in the war.

She is not even in 100 chapters, how is she just hugely important? Naruto himself is not in the focus 100%. I would say he is around 80% of all chapters, sakura at least 70%, some arcs she was left behind like return of itachi, search for tsunade, and obviously the current war arc. In many others like Sasuke retrieval, hidan and kakuzu, and itachi pursuit, she still had an important side role in these at least appearing over hinata. Hinata just vanishes in part 1 after the Chunin exams. She has a minor apperence in sai arc and in the itachi pursuit yet only stays around standing doing little to nothing. How is she some ideal heroine as they perceive her to be when she only has 1 arc of real paced development and the rest is just scattered with minimal advances?

Worst naruhina fans act as if its impossible for sakura to fall in love with naruto, it's like it's harder than turning lead to gold. Yet they are okay with SS which destroys sasukes character? Neji honestly died for a character with not even 100 chapters? That's what most of us are pissed at neji died for minimal development in a lose sense. I don't even go to naruto wiki save for stuff like the Justu, I mean on hinatas page they still show her current event as holding narutos hand and not the events afterwards. I mean its like naruhina fans want to keep the perception of naruhina as big as it has got despite it being almost a hollowed idealology.

I don't want it to sound like I'm bashing but its this type of that makes us go are you serious? They even act as naruto is a love story and belongs to their fandom, no just no..... What has fandom come too?

Didn't Kishi basically confirm that the love triangle still exists too, I mean alongside even earlier saying how sakuras crush on Sasuke was selfish, seriously? Sure no resolution to the confessin has come but it's still logical to think that naruto still has feelings for her after what sai explained. They have been apart for a while but the confinement arc was about meeting his parents, his origin, and mastery over kurama. The war has been on everyone and lots of development and closure for many like gaara and team 10. Others like mifune and dauri being newer characters got some attention. With sakura gone for a bit save the zetsu and slight reunion with him on the field that reunion is the only interaction they have had since aside from telling her to heal Kakashi. Still if hinata started this chain of spotlight for everyone, obviously sakura is near the end. Plus with sakura out of the picture for some reason, only character reacting to hinatas speech, and not seen with the nine tails power along with sai, her depressed feelings over sasuke in 540, and tsunades potential death. Is it too hard to imagine sakura getting some powerup and change away from Sasuke with all these events laid down? To many sakura and narusaku haters, it's harder to imagine that Tobi was obito when it was obvious from the start.

I hate to say it, but I think most NH fans are simpleminded when it comes to reading comprehension. Such things as the prominence of a character throughout the story, the pacing of their overall development, and their role and importance in the main conflict...none of that really matters in their perception of the manga.

Their line of logic is more or less:
Hinata has a more complex and tragic backstory.
Hinata doesn't emotionally break down and cry all the time.
Hinata has a much better personality than Sakura.
Hinata has helped Naruto in so many more ways than Sakura has.
Hinata is more skilled as a kunoichi than Sakura.
Hinata has never been a b!tch to Naruto and has always loved him.
Therefore, Hinata>Sakura in every single way and makes a much better heroine.

All those mistranslated interviews don't help matters either. dry.gif

Edited by Baguette, 21 March 2013 - 01:35 AM.


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 01:36 AM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Mar 21 2013, 02:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ehi, guys! Remember these Kizuna books, divided in two scrolls which be out on 15th April? The "Heaven Scroll" and the "Earth scroll"? Well, they come out and seems that we have some little info about...

http://narutoworldbr...uto-kizuna.html

Here a brasilian links which talks about the two books. Unfornately they are in portuguese but they scanned some interesting page colors. As you can see, each page colors represent a character and his feature with a his famous sentence who have said in the manga.
For example,
the book "Scroll of Heaven" will have 5 chapters, 1st part of Kishimoto's interview and a compilation about some poses from the great Hero Jiraya and a rap from Killer Bee. The chapters are:

1)Conviction/Faith
2)Encouragement
3)Desire/Dream
4)Shinobi
5)Pride

The book "Scroll of Earth" will have the remainent 5 chapters, Naruto comics digest, the 2nd and last part of Kishimoto's interview. The chapters are regarding:

6)Will
7)Love
8)Darkness
9)Trust
10)Fighting spirit

Yeah, it seems that the chapter Seven, about "Love", will regarding Sakura and Naruto. The sentence along her is "I'm sorry...Naruto...I...That impossible dream of yours....I don't want to see it crushed!!" (chapter 43 ndr)

Thing are getting interesting here. Hope we get more info... If only I can buy them on Amazon sad.gif

Ohoo interesting !!


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 01:48 AM

These books, is this suppose to be about Naruto and his connections with others alas Naruto as a main focus?

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 01:53 AM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 20 2013, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm brazillian aswell and i know the owner of the website, he does have a copy of the book and is able to read japanese the chapter love is the critic talking aobut Naruto Sakura and Sasuke love triangle.

what is written on the website it's just the interview.


can you give us more information??? wasntme.png

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 01:56 AM

Hey wait, those image strip, one of them say that line that you said above? The one with Hokage not being crushed.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 02:02 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 21 2013, 02:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey wait, those image strip, one of them say that line that you said above? The one with Hokage not being crushed.


yeah, this


Edited by 六道仙人, 21 March 2013 - 02:02 AM.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 02:02 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 20 2013, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey wait, those image strip, one of them say that line that you said above? The one with Hokage not being crushed.


yes, seems like that the chapter "love" has that quote on the cover of the chapter!

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 02:08 AM

God, I can't wait for those books to come out, I wanna buy them.
Thanks for you japanese translation @六道仙人


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 02:11 AM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Mar 20 2013, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yeah, this


...

You ever get that feeling that when you use a line that could be only you that thinks that's important, only to find out it's not just you at all? Yeah, that's what I'm getting it.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 02:12 AM

Of course that chapter will talk some about the love of Sakura for Sasuke, as saidy by Darkrest but it's good that the caption about that chapter is regarding NS. This means that the manga critic acknowledged the relations between Naruto and Sakura.

Edited by 六道仙人, 21 March 2013 - 02:13 AM.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 02:15 AM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Mar 20 2013, 10:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Of course that chapter will talk some about the love of Sakura for Sasuke, as saidy by Darkrest but it's good that the caption about that chapter is regarding NS. This means that the manga critic acknowledged the relations between Naruto and Sakura.

Not only that, but pretty much it's going to have a lot of highlights in the book because you can't really talk about NS without talking the love triangle since Sakura started off with someone else. That said the fact he used that quote may mean that he's fully aware that Sakura has increased her feelings for Naruto since the beginning.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 02:17 AM

You can see that panel with Itachi and the moon and the goodbye scene of Sasuke on Sakura's photo.
It's a little transperant, but it's visible.


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 02:18 AM

So yeah, these books are about Naruto or just in general?

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 02:27 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 21 2013, 03:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So yeah, these books are about Naruto or just in general?


It talks about bonds in general... In fact there's a chapter who talking about "Shinobi" (the other image where's Sakura where she saying that a shinobi shouldn't cry etc..."

So those books talk about the bonds, not only Naruto....

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 02:30 AM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Mar 20 2013, 10:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It talks about bonds in general... In fact there's a chapter who talking about "Shinobi" (the other image where's Sakura where she saying that a shinobi shouldn't cry etc..."

So those books talk about the bonds, not only Naruto....

Ah, got ya. Actually, it's still somewhat more on Naruto since he's the one with all bonds presentation, but I digress.




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