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[TouKen4Life3g]

NH wasn't even mentioned.

That's why.

[Sojobo]

NH wasn't even mentioned.

xD

Well it's all about... Hinata. The opposite fandom always make the mistake here.

And not only that "bonds" book, but also in the Databook, there is nothing about NH, while you have interesting stuff about Sakura...

It's just a fanfic pairing, and it will always be...

Edited by Sojobo, 11 January 2014 - 10:51 PM.

[FireFox]

I don't think NS parallels TsunaxDan, even if Naruto parallels Dan, and Sakura parallels Tsunade. Their stories are very different, but Sakura better watch out now so Naruto doesn't end up like Dan.

They parallel in the sense that they are compatible with each other which is not the case with SS as they make it seems to be , also we really  don't know much about their relationship except how they bonded (that they were so similar to each other) or about Dan's personality from what's shown he seems to be a calm person and aspired to be Hokage but then again so was Minato until he showed his goofy Naruto side  . There's also one thing i noticed about Kishi , and that's how he presents the parings that are canon , they have to be similar to each other , share a goal together and the somewhat calm and loud personality and NS has all of this . 

I think we are all expecting an OVA 2011 at least i'm

 

Good point. Well, then we're just stuck with Kishimoto spacing the details of his own story, and in the process making Sakura look rather daft.

Guess so , but i'm still not losing hope and while he made her daft about not noticing that that was the fourth   i still think that she doesn't know that he's Naruto's father , call it a gut feeling or whatever but if this's not the case then i don't even .

Or maybe his cape was still in the air when she saw him, so she didn't see the caption. Capes like that fall down in slow motion.

 

Shinobis have a keen eye for noticing things so Kishi didn't make Sakura noticing it cus his cape was still in the air but the random fooders know right away who he was ? Granted they may be comrades from his era but still you can't miss the pictures in the hokages office or the mountain and not know who they are . Also this doesn't bother me that much , what will really bother me is if it's proven to us that she really did know/heard that he was Naruto's father and Kishi made her not reacting to it in the manga but did it in the RTN , it doesn't make any kind of sense not even for Kishi's standards .

I think we can all agree that it should be "Naruto's father is the fourth?" or something like that because the "who the kitten he is" was stupid for someome like her who work at the hokage's office and even with Naruto saying "Dad!".

Still not sure she know that he's Naruto's father maybe this part will come later when Minato's leaving or in the next chapter/s when they will be gather around semi dead or " Kishi forbiden " dead Naruto , either way we need a confirmation whether or not she knew that in 631 , but yeah i agree with you it should have gone the route of "Naruto's father is the fourth" or even " who is he..!? wait those words on that cape.....its the fourth hokage ! " at least this's how i see it but Kishi rarely gives you what you want  .

 

Never the less i don't wan't anyone to think that i don't love 631 i freaking loved it it just the route for the above could have been done better that's all    

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 11 January 2014 - 11:19 PM.

[Dalton.T.R]

Lol. I can see this being Naruto's reaction if Sakura called him 'sexy'

 

[FireFox]

Lol. I can see this being Naruto's reaction if Sakura called him 'sexy'

 

But isn't this more like SS in a nutshell   at least Naruto would have a more of a surprised confused look on his face while saying this       

[Dalton.T.R]

But isn't this more like SS in a nutshell   at least Naruto would have a more of a surprised confused look on his face while saying this       

Good point lol

[BlueStarSaber]

They parallel in the sense that they are compatible with each other which is not the case with SS as they make it seems to be , also we really  don't know much about their relationship except how they bonded (that they were so similar to each other) or about Dan's personality from what's shown he seems to be a calm person and aspired to be Hokage but then again so was Minato until he showed his goofy Naruto side  . There's also one thing i noticed about Kishi , and that's how he presents the parings that are canon , they have to be similar to each other , share a goal together and the somewhat calm and loud personality and NS has all of this . 

I think we are all expecting an OVA 2011 at least i'm

Guess so , but i'm still not losing hope and while he made her daft about not noticing that that was the fourth   i still think that she doesn't know that he's Naruto's father , call it a gut feeling or whatever but if this's not the case then i don't even .

Shinobis have a keen eye for noticing things so Kishi didn't make Sakura noticing it cus his cape was still in the air but the random fooders know right away who he was ? Granted they may be comrades from his era but still you can't miss the pictures in the hokages office or the mountain and not know who they are . Also this doesn't bother me that much , what will really bother me is if it's proven to us that she really did know/heard that he was Naruto's father and Kishi made her not reacting to it in the manga but did it in the RTN , it doesn't make any kind of sense not even for Kishi's standards .

Still not sure she know that he's Naruto's father maybe this part will come later when Minato's leaving or in the next chapter/s when they will be gather around semi dead or " Kishi forbiden " dead Naruto , either way we need a confirmation whether or not she knew that in 631 , but yeah i agree with you it should have gone the route of "Naruto's father is the fourth" or even " who is he..!? wait those words on that cape.....its the fourth hokage ! " at least this's how i see it but Kishi rarely gives you what you want  .

 

Never the less i don't wan't anyone to think that i don't love 631 i freaking loved it it just the route for the above could have been done better that's all    

 

Well the Hokage faces on the monument aren't as detailed as the look like in real life so that's probably why Sakura and the anbu didn't fully recognise them. Or the fact Sakura maybe wasn't really that interested in the fourth  and only took quick glances of what he looked like, I mean Naruto pretty much idolized him so he is bond to know him at a quick glance. Another possibility is due to the fact she hasn't personally met or know him before like with Zubuza, Haku and the third. Another thought is that Sakura was perhaps was to surprised by his sudden appearance she didn't have her head thinking straight at the moment or was too busy with the job she had at hand to think of the fourth. Not reacting to the dad part. She was ether 1 Didn't not hear Naruto say dad, 2 she is shocked but doesn't' have time react and she will talk about it latter with him, 3 she has already figured out Naruto's dad is the fourth or someone told  her or 4 she doesn't really care if Naruto's dad is the fourth hokage or some normal villager. 

[FireFox]

 

Well the Hokage faces on the monument aren't as detailed as the look like in real life so that's probably why Sakura and the anbu didn't fully recognise them. Or the fact Sakura maybe wasn't really that interested in the fourth  and only took quick glances of what he looked like, I mean Naruto pretty much idolized him so he is bond to know him at a quick glance. Another possibility is due to the fact she hasn't personally met or know him before like with Zubuza, Haku and the third. Another thought is that Sakura was perhaps was to surprised by his sudden appearance she didn't have her head thinking straight at the moment or was too busy with the job she had at hand to think of the fourth. Not reacting to the dad part. She was ether 1 Didn't not hear Naruto say dad, 2 she is shocked but doesn't' have time react and she will talk about it latter with him, 3 she has already figured out Naruto's dad is the fourth or someone told  her or 4 she doesn't really care if Naruto's dad is the fourth hokage or some normal villager. 

While the Hokages faces on the monument aren't as detailed as they look the pictures of them hanged to the walls in the Hokages office are . Every one knows who the Hokages are its their history they are bound to know it that's way they have a Hokage monument and even the fodders know who they are .I'll grant you the fact that she hasn't met him before but he still looks the same in the picture hanged in the Hokages office and that's where Sakura spends her time working when she's not on a mission you can't miss them . On the fact that she was to surprised and didn't think straight in that momment , on this i will very much agree it's the best most logical option cus even when Minato tells her his name she has no time to react cus he tells them to prepare for the blast and in that moment she note that he's an EDO and worries about it and then we have our NS scene. But like i said in my previous post this doesn't bother me that much cus i liked/loved their little Father in law and Daughter in law conversation but it could have been done better in the beginning.

 

Not reacting to the dad part , now this's what bothers me you can not tell me that missing this moment/opportunity is not important cus 

1. Its Naruto's father the person he loves , admires the most , aspires to be , and he never get the chance to spend time wit him as father and son since the day he was born.

2. Sakura the girl Naruto's in love the girl that cares,worries about him the most , its most protective of him and i would even say loves him not showing any kind of a reaction on this matter (even tough she did all of this in RTN) is a very bad thing for NS and its not who Sakura is when it comes to Naruto

 

Moving on to your points about this question

1,There is canon evidence that support this or she wouldn't have said " Who is he..? " . 2. I really hope either this happens or she still is not aware of it and will find out about it now when Naruto is semi dead or dying and this is where we see her reaction. 3. My 1&2 points shows why this's bad . 4 I didn't said that she should care whether or not he's the 4-Hokage or a villager i said that she should show us that she cares for the reason a stated in my 1&2 points.       

[咲耶姫]

can anyone tell me what this is about?!

 

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If you're interested in what the book said in love section about NaruSakura: 

• The 10th question : 第１０問目… !!

中忍試験でナルト達は“失敗したら中忍試験の受験資格を……される”という課題

を受けるか否か迫られる。しかも一人命運は、同班の二名も道連れにする決まりだ。その選択を迫られた時、サクラは棄榷を決意する。自分のためでなく“火影になる”というナルトの夢を守るために。ナルトの夢はサクラの願いにもなっていた。

 

During the chuunin exam, Naruto and his friends are informed that they could never be chuunin if they fail at the exam. Moreover, one’s destiny lay in his 2 comrades’ decision. While the turning point is oncoming, Sakura takes the decision to quit the exam. She does it in order to protect Naruto’s dream which is to become Hokage, even if it was not her own. Naruto’s dream has become Sakura’s own.

 

•    Promise of a lifetime : 一生の約束

サスケが里な抜けた時、サクラはナルトに“連れ戻して”と懇願する。サクラに想いを寄せるがため、その言葉に鋭い胸の痛みを覚えるナルト。それでも彼は親指を立て、自身の忍道に誓いを立てた。サクラがどれだけサスケを好きか、そしてサスケを止められなかったことにどれほど苛まれているか…。その苦しみを、ナルトは誰より深く知るからだ。

 

When Sasuke leaved the village, Sakura begs Naruto to “bring back Sasuke”. Naruto loves Sakura, that’s why hearing those words from her hurt him. However, he raises his thumb and declares his nindô. Because Sakura loves only Sasuke, the fact that she couldn’t stop him is a pain to her. And that pain, Naruto is fully aware of it, more than anyone.

 

• Sakura’s confession : サクラの告白 !!

抜け忍とあったサスケの討伐命令が下った時、サクラはナルトの心中をおもんぱか

り、かつてサスケ連れ戻してと頼んだ自分の言葉が、ナルトを縛っていることに思

い至る。その呪縛からナルトを解くため、サクラはナルトに告白する。

しかし、ナルトには分かっていた。それがサクラの本心でないことを。そして、自分の気持ちに背く彼女の痛みを。

 

Being a nukenin, when the order of repression for Sasuke is given, Sakura, considering Naruto’s feelings because she begged him herself to bring Sasuke back, realizes that she’s thereby bonded to Naruto. To rid off Naruto from this burden she gave him herself, Sakura confesses to him. However, Naruto understands. Those are not Sakura’s true feelings. That’s why; his own feelings are in conflicts with the pain that Sakura impose to herself.

 

• Struggle’s beginning  : 闘いのはじまり

里を抜けようとするサスケに、サクラは思い止まるよう懇願する。その願いに対するサスケの答えは“うざいよ”一言。それはカカシ班が編成された頃にもサスケが放った言葉だった。だが、それから幾多の任務を経た今、同じ言葉に込められた意味は、大きく異なる。自分への愛情を知りつつも、全ての繋がりを断ち切るべくサスケは里に背を向けた。

 

Given that Sasuke intends to leave the village, Sakura thinks she’s able to stop him by begging him. Sasuke’s response to this demand is one word “You’re annoying”. That’s the same word he used when Team Kakashi was formed. But from this moment, they accomplished many missions; this word took a different meaning. Even being aware of the affection she holds for him, Sasuke takes the decision to cut all his bonds by leaving the village.

 

 

NH wasn't even mentioned.

Well, it was mentioned, but not in the ove section. Only in the encouragement section. And that's even worst, because it's like saying Hinata's love is not real love since it's not in the love section, that "love" would only be encouragement. 

 

xD

Well it's all about... Hinata. The opposite fandom always make the mistake here.

And not only that "bonds" book, but also in the Databook, there is nothing about NH, while you have interesting stuff about Sakura...

It's just a fanfic pairing, and it will always be...

There are some things about NH in databooks, in the Hinata section, her bond with Naruto is always mentioned. But nothing we don't already know, she loves Naruto because she want to be like him, he inspired her etc... Nothing that suggests Naruto could reciprocate Hinata's feelings like it is implied for Sakura about Naruto. 

[TacticalFox88]

I'm probably alone on this, but the fact that Sakura was wiling to fail the entire team, including Sasuke (who we know 100% he would've been pissed off at her) for the SOLE purpose of protecting Naruto's dream to be Hokage will forever be my favorite NaruSaku moment. 631 isn't even in the same stratosphere for me when compared to that moment. 

[FireFox]

 

• Sakura’s confession : サクラの告白 !!

抜け忍とあったサスケの討伐命令が下った時、サクラはナルトの心中をおもんぱか

り、かつてサスケ連れ戻してと頼んだ自分の言葉が、ナルトを縛っていることに思

い至る。その呪縛からナルトを解くため、サクラはナルトに告白する。

しかし、ナルトには分かっていた。それがサクラの本心でないことを。そして、自分の気持ちに背く彼女の痛みを。

 

Being a nukenin, when the order of repression for Sasuke is given, Sakura, considering Naruto’s feelings because she begged him herself to bring Sasuke back, realizes that she’s thereby bonded to Naruto. To rid off Naruto from this burden she gave him herself, Sakura confesses to him. However, Naruto understands. Those are not Sakura’s true feelings. That’s why; his own feelings are in conflicts with the pain that Sakura impose to herself.

 

• Struggle’s beginning  : 闘いのはじまり

里を抜けようとするサスケに、サクラは思い止まるよう懇願する。その願いに対するサスケの答えは“うざいよ”一言。それはカカシ班が編成された頃にもサスケが放った言葉だった。だが、それから幾多の任務を経た今、同じ言葉に込められた意味は、大きく異なる。自分への愛情を知りつつも、全ての繋がりを断ち切るべくサスケは里に背を向けた。

 

Given that Sasuke intends to leave the village, Sakura thinks she’s able to stop him by begging him. Sasuke’s response to this demand is one word “You’re annoying”. That’s the same word he used when Team Kakashi was formed. But from this moment, they accomplished many missions; this word took a different meaning. Even being aware of the affection she holds for him, Sasuke takes the decision to cut all his bonds by leaving the village.

Can you elaborate more on what this two scenes means especially the bolded ones please and thank you   

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 12 January 2014 - 04:28 AM.

[咲耶姫]

Can you elaborate more on what this two scenes means especially the bolded ones please and thank you   

 

Well, the one in Sakura's confession, the critic says that she confessed her "love", but theses are not Sakura's true feelings, she doesn't completely love him, since she has not forgot Sasuke like she said to Naruto. And there, pain is opposing to her feelings. 

 

And in the part about Sasuke, it's pretty clear, the firs time Sasuke said "you're annoying" to Sakura, he said it sincerely, but the second time, he said, while putting almost like an affectionate tone in it, while putting all what they are gone through in that "you're annoying". The first time they were not friends, but the second time, they were "nakama" and that's the difference between the 2. 

 

I don't know if I made myself clear, but hopefully others members will surely respond to you better than I did. You see, it's hard to explain the thoughts of someone else, it's what the critic says, I'm not in his head, so I can't be sure about what he meant by "2 differents meanings". But I highly doubt it was a romantic implication, I think he meant what I said. 

Edited by 咲耶姫, 12 January 2014 - 04:44 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Oh great, you have to bring up Hinata. Look at you done! She was being protected by us by not making her love seems much lower than actual love. Don't let the world hear you.

[TacticalFox88]

Oh great, you have to bring up Hinata. Look at you done! She was being protected by us by not making her love seems much lower than actual love. Don't let the world hear you.

I usually throw her a bone and at least say she has a huge crush on him which is actually admiration, in reality.

 

[咲耶姫]

It was never stated in any book that she doesn't really loves him, on the contrary it says she loves him by using the word "suki", but the databook say she loves him because she admires him. She doesn't admire him more than she loves him, it's just that admiration is the reason of her love for him.

But I agree that the fact she's not in the love section of kizuna books speaks for itself, her love is not Big True Love like people are always saying, it's the principale reason why they are rooting for NH, always saying "Hinata's love is pure, it's true love yada yada", but funny thing that when a critic talks about love in Naruto, he's talking about Naruto/Sakura, Sakura/Sasuke and even Lee/Sakura, but randomly no Hinata... I wonder why? (ironcal)

To me, it proves that her place is not that big in the love subplot. her love for Narut is her personnal deal as a side character. It has no impact on the real plot, while Sakura's feelings for both Naruto and Sasuke have an impact on the main plot, since the 3 of them are main characters.

[TouKen4Life3g]

And this is why NaruSaku is destiny. How come we still going circle?

[FireFox]

 

Well, the one in Sakura's confession, the critic says that she confessed her "love", but theses are not Sakura's true feelings, she doesn't completely love him, since she has not forgot Sasuke like she said to Naruto. And there, pain is opposing to her feelings. 

 

And in the part about Sasuke, it's pretty clear, the firs time Sasuke said "you're annoying" to Sakura, he said it sincerely, but the second time, he said, while putting almost like an affectionate tone in it, while putting all what they are gone through in that "you're annoying". The first time they were not friends, but the second time, they were "nakama" and that's the difference between the 2. 

 

I don't know if I made myself clear, but hopefully others members will surely respond to you better than I did. You see, it's hard to explain the thoughts of someone else, it's what the critic says, I'm not in his head, so I can't be sure about what he meant by "2 differents meanings". But I highly doubt it was a romantic implication, I think he meant what I said. 

Thank you so much for this and don't worry you made your self perfectly clear . So what it basically says is that until her feelings for Sasuke's are resolved  she can't truly love Naruto ? and i agree with the second one i also take it like that ,  

[咲耶姫]

Thank you so much for this and don't worry you made your self perfectly clear . So what it basically says is that until her feelings for Sasuke's are resolved  she can't truly love Naruto ? and i agree with the second one i also take it like that ,  

Well, I didn"t take it like that, but I guess it works too. I thought the critic said that Sakura didn't really love Naruto, that she still loved Sasuke and so it caused her pain to do this confession. But as a NS fan, I prefer your interpretation of the critic's words.

[oksus]

Sakura not reacting to Minato might of have been done subconsciously by Kishimoto due to his involvement with RTN. There's a possibility he sees RTN as Cannon in his mind... ;)

[Dalton.T.R]

NH wasn't even mentioned.

NaruHina rage coming in 3...2...1...

 

RAGE!!!