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#1281 Darth Krypt

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 04:42 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Sep 8 2012, 11:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ecchi .........we can't get a break from it?


No. Fan-service is one of FT's defining elements so its always gonna be there.

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 04:49 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Sep 7 2012, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ecchi .........we can't get a break from it?

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A good breather chapter like this is good once in a while. Besides, this is Fairy Tail we're talking about here, fanservice is one of the recurrent themes in this series. If it wasn't then it wouldn't be Fairy Tail anymore, it would just be a regular shonen series instead of the crazy awesome story we get weekly.

I kind of like how Erza got annoyed at Jellal for coming to the pool wearing his mask and then told him that he stood out even more now. So you came to the pool because you sensed the strange magic power there? Suuuuure you did Jellal. fu.png

I bet he probably overheard that Erza was going to the pool and wanted to see her in a bikini. I can't blame him though. cool.gif

Seeing Erza get comically annoyed by Jellal was pretty refreshing, I don't think it has ever happened before. For some reason this made me actually start to like the pairing. It's probably because for the first time in the series their interactions aren't filled with angst. To be honest the angst between them was getting old.

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#1283 merryGOflava

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 04:53 AM

QUOTE (Darth Krypt @ Sep 8 2012, 04:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No. Fan-service is one of FT's defining elements so its always gonna be there.

keep telling yourself its "fanservice"
thats some hard core "fanservice" that any guy would convince himself is only "fanservice"
plz, thats ecchi
"oh its not ecchi its not as bad!!"
plz again (figures though..you guys are dudes)

DEFINITION OF ECCHI i found from wiki
-- Works considered as ecchi do not show any sexual intercourse or primary sexual characteristics. Instead, it is up to the imagination of the viewer. Inside such media, it often goes along with fan service in a humorous way. These kinds of sexual themes or undertones can usually be found in comedic Shōnen/Seinen manga and harem anime.
http://www.mangahere...v26/c298/8.html <--- im sure that fits
orrr this ---> http://www.mangahere...v26/c298/9.html

Edited by merryGOflava, 08 September 2012 - 05:13 AM.

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#1284 Darth Krypt

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 05:12 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Sep 8 2012, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
keep telling yourself its "fanservice"
thats some hard core "fanservice" that any guy would convince himself is only "fanservice"
plz, thats ecchi
"oh its not ecchi its not as bad!!"
plz again

DEFINITION OF ECCHI i found from wiki
-- Works considered as ecchi do not show any sexual intercourse or primary sexual characteristics. Instead, it is up to the imagination of the viewer. Inside such media, it often goes along with fan service in a humorous way. These kinds of sexual themes or undertones can usually be found in comedic Shōnen/Seinen manga and harem anime.
http://www.mangahere...v26/c298/8.html <--- im sure that fits
orrr this ---> http://www.mangahere...v26/c298/9.html


Why are you so caught up on definitions? Ecchi, fanservice, whatever. And why are you being so aggressive? I'm not someone who "convince himself is only fanservice" because frankly I don't care. I suggest you bring your tone down.

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#1285 merryGOflava

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 05:22 AM

QUOTE (Darth Krypt @ Sep 8 2012, 06:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why are you so caught up on definitions? Ecchi, fanservice, whatever. And why are you being so aggressive? I'm not someone who "convince himself is only fanservice" because frankly I don't care. I suggest you bring your tone down.


bring down my tone!?

sorry if im tired of it. im tired that nobody ELSE realizes its ecchi, becuase it makes it okay for them to read. (granted some dont care whether it is or not......like you and are okay with it)

but thats my beef with it.

then again i guess its my own fault for reading such a manga.

i thought fairy tail was cool (it didnt show that much when it started out)

but now EVERY SINGLE CHAPTER theres gotta be a panty shot, or exposed boobs. and dont get me started on the angles.

one piece doesnt have as nearly as much crap as fairy tail.

i guess as a girl im sick of it. but again thats my fault for putting my expectations to high.

to bad....i like the action....and im getting into the story.....its sad that i have to stop reading it because of something this stupid......but i have my pride, and I rather leave with it.

Edited by merryGOflava, 08 September 2012 - 05:40 AM.

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 05:32 AM

I must say I enjoyed this chapter, but I must side with merrygoflava, and I'm a guy. I understand that fanservice is what Fairy Tail is good at and rightfully so, but man, can it go to extreme. Fairy Tail is like the opposite of Naruto in terms of fanservice. How funny. I don't mind it here since it's supposed to be a side chapter, but the only thing that annoyed me is the idea of training is to purposely to have fanservice (the beach before the tournament). That I was like "Seriously..."

Still, I continue to follow the series. It is a enjoyable manga, that's for sure.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 08 September 2012 - 05:33 AM.


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Posted 08 September 2012 - 05:32 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Sep 8 2012, 01:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
bring down my tone!?

sorry if im tired of it. im tired that nobody ELSE realizes its ecchi, becuase it makes it okay for them to read. (granted some dont care whether it is or not......like you and are okay with it)

but thats my beef with it.

then again i guess its my own fault for reading such a manga.

i thought fairy tail was cool (it didnt show that much when it started out)

but now EVERY SINGLE CHAPTER theres gotta be a panty shot, or exposed boobs. and dont get me started on the angles.

one piece doesnt have as nearly as much crap as fairy tail.

i guess as a girl im sick of it. but again thats my fault for putting my expectations to high.

to bad....i like the action....and im getting into the story.....its sad that i have to stop reading it because of something this stupid......but i have my pride, and I rather leave with it.


Then that's too bad. I'm a guy so I'll never understand how you feel exactly. I do agree Hiro has been amping up the "fanservice" lately but like you said, I don't care. I still find FT tolerable to read so I'll continue reading it. I have my own "beef" with FT but I don't post it on a thread full of FT fans.

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 05:39 AM

QUOTE (Darth Krypt @ Sep 8 2012, 05:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then that's too bad. I'm a guy so I'll never understand how you feel exactly. I do agree Hiro has been amping up the "fanservice" lately but like you said, I don't care. I still find FT tolerable to read so I'll continue reading it. I have my own "beef" with FT but I don't post it on a thread full of FT fans.


yea i know.

i guess i just wanted a little sympathy.

but i guess putting it in a spoiler tag wouldnt hurt.

sorry for taking it out on you.

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 05:52 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Sep 8 2012, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yea i know.

i guess i just wanted a little sympathy.

but i guess putting it in a spoiler tag wouldnt hurt.

sorry for taking it out on you.


Then you'll have my sympathy. smile.gif And its ok, water under the bridge.

To me, Fairy Tail has always been on the borders of ecchi so it should have been a warning to those who dislike that genre.

Edited by Darth Krypt, 08 September 2012 - 05:53 AM.

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 06:07 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Sep 8 2012, 01:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yea i know.

i guess i just wanted a little sympathy.

but i guess putting it in a spoiler tag wouldnt hurt.

sorry for taking it out on you.

I know it's hard to accept but as a girl you aren't really Fairy Tail's target demographic. Not trying to be mean, just telling the truth. When Hiro draws this kind of chapters he thinks of entertaining his male viewer, after all, this story is published in a Shonen magazine.

I'm sure there are some stories in shojo magazines that are incredibly thrilling for girls, but for guys they would be pretty annoying. But guys really don't have the right to even complain about those annoyances since those type of stories weren't done with the opinions of guys in mind. It's the same when it comes to some shonen stories and the girls that read them.

Since Fairy Tail also has elements to appeal to both sexes (like the emotional stories and action scenes) it will also draw in female viewers. But this being a shonen manga it will inevitably be filled with moments that are meant to be entertaining exclusively for males (ecchi, fanservice, however you call it).

A little of topic but I once heard that Kishimoto was surprised that he actually had female fans. It seems he originally thought that only guys read Naruto. If Kishi (the guy who felt too embarrassed to draw Sakura in a bikini for a cover page) thought that he had no female reader, imagine what Hiro thinks.

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 06:08 AM

I'm not a fan of all these extreme fanservice but the chapter overall was funny, I guess now Elf man and Ever are canon, not that it wasn't hinted already xD

I think Mashima goes too far sometimes, I mean there is no need too put so much stuff, it is also becoming quite annoying to me, but I guess this is just because I'm a girl xD oh well, I'll just ignore the useless boobs fanservice and enjoy the manga as it is smile.gif

Edited by LadyGT, 08 September 2012 - 06:14 AM.

 
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Posted 08 September 2012 - 06:13 AM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Sep 8 2012, 06:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know it's hard to accept but as a girl you aren't really Fairy Tail's target demographic. Not trying to be mean, just telling the truth. When Hiro draws this kind of chapters he thinks of entertaining his male viewer, after all, this story is published in a Shonen magazine.

I'm sure there are some stories in shojo magazines that are incredibly thrilling for girls, but for guys they would be pretty annoying. But guys really don't have the right to even complain about those annoyances since those type of stories weren't done with the opinions of guys in mind. It's the same when it comes to some shonen stories and the girls that read them.

Since Fairy Tail also has elements to appeal to both sexes (like the emotional stories and action scenes) it will also draw in female viewers. But this being a shonen manga it will inevitably be filled with moments that are meant to be entertaining exclusively for males (ecchi, fanservice, however you call it).

A little of topic but I once heard that Kishimoto was surprised that he actually had female fans. It seems he originally thought that only guys read Naruto. If Kishi (the guy who felt too embarrassed to draw Sakura in a bikini for a cover page) thought that he had no female reader, imagine what Hiro thinks.


i know.... it sucks being a girl that likes action.........i guess if you dont like something then do it better yourself

Edited by merryGOflava, 08 September 2012 - 06:14 AM.

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 07:19 AM

On the fanservice/ecchi topic: While yes, Hiro has been upping that lately, to say that it's devoid of any fanservice directed at females isn't completely true. Gray takes off his clothes, Natsu leaves his chest exposed, etc. It tends to be more noticeable with the fanservice directed at guys because guys are visual in nature and how they perceive the opposite gender, and it's easier to draw more erotic things with women simply because of society's norm and their anatomy.

Not to say you don't have a right to complain, but on that same note, it's going to continue, and I find it pretty easy to ignore.

But with Bleach, Naruto, and OP in Japan being so large in popularity, Mashima is trying to sell and in the publishing world, sex sells. Simple.
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Posted 08 September 2012 - 08:37 AM

QUOTE (Greed-Sama @ Sep 8 2012, 12:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
On the fanservice/ecchi topic: While yes, Hiro has been upping that lately, to say that it's devoid of any fanservice directed at females isn't completely true. Gray takes off his clothes, Natsu leaves his chest exposed, etc. It tends to be more noticeable with the fanservice directed at guys because guys are visual in nature and how they perceive the opposite gender, and it's easier to draw more erotic things with women simply because of society's norm and their anatomy.

Not to say you don't have a right to complain, but on that same note, it's going to continue, and I find it pretty easy to ignore.

But with Bleach, Naruto, and OP in Japan being so large in popularity, Mashima is trying to sell and in the publishing world, sex sells. Simple.


QFT. I'm a girl, but I personally don't mind the "ecchi" or fanservice simply because I love the story.
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Posted 08 September 2012 - 04:03 PM

QUOTE (Greed-Sama @ Sep 8 2012, 07:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
On the fanservice/ecchi topic: While yes, Hiro has been upping that lately, to say that it's devoid of any fanservice directed at females isn't completely true. Gray takes off his clothes, Natsu leaves his chest exposed, etc. It tends to be more noticeable with the fanservice directed at guys because guys are visual in nature and how they perceive the opposite gender, and it's easier to draw more erotic things with women simply because of society's norm and their anatomy.

Not to say you don't have a right to complain, but on that same note, it's going to continue, and I find it pretty easy to ignore.

But with Bleach, Naruto, and OP in Japan being so large in popularity, Mashima is trying to sell and in the publishing world, sex sells. Simple.


i never considered that fanserive, cause.....i dont know.

a guy taking off his shirt isnt anything new......

but thats just me XD

my fanservice would be a guy saving a girl or something.

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 04:21 PM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Sep 8 2012, 09:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i never considered that fanserive, cause.....i dont know.

a guy taking off his shirt isnt anything new......

but thats just me XD

my fanservice would be a guy saving a girl or something.


I don't understand how a guy taking off his shirt can't be fanservice for girls...? IMO FT is full of fanservice for everyone; that includes pairings, male and female sexual innuendos and even instances of yaoi/yuri for those crack pairing fans and those that just lilke ecchi with a splash of comedy! Maybe I'm not bugged by it because I love the story so much that the fanservice is just an extra push for those that might not like the story so much, as it is a business after all. I hope you'll push on and read Fairy Tail as its story evolves. But your opinion is your opinion and you are entitled to it! I'm just making my own case on why I feel the way I feel about the manga *saying this so you don't feel like I'm attacking your OP or anything*

On a side note, IMO the story has definitely matured in the past two arcs and I'm looking forward to the aftermath of it all *hue NaLu huehue HNNNGGG* pictureem0.gif

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 04:51 PM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Sep 8 2012, 11:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i never considered that fanserive, cause.....i dont know.

a guy taking off his shirt isnt anything new......


That is called a double standard, and I blame society for that.

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but thats just me XD

my fanservice would be a guy saving a girl or something.


and that is called a plot point.

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 05:04 PM

QUOTE (Greed-Sama @ Sep 8 2012, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That is called a double standard, and I blame society for that.



and that is called a plot point.


plz its not hard FOR me to not consider it fanservice.

my little bro walks around without a shirt everyday. its nothing new.

i see my neighbors sometimes walk around without a shirt.

its not a double standard. girls CANT take off her shirt, so when she does, its called fanservice.
but when a guy doesnt it......its nothing special at all.

cause its not forbbiden, like when girls do it.

if the girls werent doing any fanservicy things this chapter i bet no one would even notice the guys without their shirts. i know i wouldnt.

course it could just be me.

Edited by merryGOflava, 08 September 2012 - 05:06 PM.

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 05:08 PM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Sep 8 2012, 12:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
plz its not hard FOR me to not consider it fanservice.

my little bro walks around without a shirt everyday. its nothing new.

i see my neighbors sometimes walk around without a shirt.

its not a double standard. girls CANT take off her shirt, so when she does, its called fanservice.
but when a guy doesnt it......its nothing special at all.

cause its not forbbiden, like when girls do it.


No that's a society double standard. Women in other parts of the world can take off their shirts and tops without it being such a big deal. So yes, it's a double standard.
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Posted 08 September 2012 - 05:11 PM

QUOTE (Greed-Sama @ Sep 8 2012, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No that's a society double standard. Women in other parts of the world can take off their shirts and tops without it being such a big deal. So yes, it's a double standard.


no. im not talking about other parts of the world im talking about JAPAN. im talking about the places where it isnt right. come on now.


a girl taking off her swimming suit is akward for me.
as akward as it would be for a guy taking off his trunks in public.

and i dont see THAT in fairy tail......hmmmm i wonder why.

i dont know what im more upset about, that you think all that fanserive(ecchi) against the girls (taking of the lower and top of the swim suit, having somemone swim in their underwear, all the wierd angles only toward the girls)
is the same as a dude taking off his shirt, which is normal.

or that im the only one that feels this way.

Edited by merryGOflava, 08 September 2012 - 05:20 PM.

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