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[dl316bh]

Like Hinata stealing Sakura's role and her man, I came, I saw, I liked and I took.

... Welp. There's only one way to react with this. Only one option that is mature, sensible and doable.

Time for me to slash your tires.

*slashes*

[4000TMNT]

Give up men, this was clearly a NH moment let's try not to behave like the other fandom trying to downplay or deny the things we don't like or refuse to accept.

We might or may not get a major NS moment lets try to hope for that, or even see Sakura sad that she might lose Naruto's affection, not jealousy because she does not deserve to feel that way, it will only makes her look selfish.
Sadness, despoilment on herself and a desire to be happy for Naruto is the best Sakura>>>Naruto hint we can get in order to give us that hope that NS chances are still high and best of all selfless.

I know, I just want to make sure if the raw text might have more meaning in Naruto's words when he thanked Hinata.

[Don-kun]

^^
Two other users with Japanese understanding pointed out that he meant that moment not his whole life, it also explain why he also thanked Neji since Sakura Kakashi and Iruka are the only ones that fit that role.

I'd also like to add that she could have went up to him after he was done talking to the rest about Sasuke or something....but no.



It never worried me tbh. Like with Naruto's thoughts and expression, it came out really platonic on his part. Even with Hinata there was no mention of her loving him or about the confession. The only time we were reminded she has those feelings are with the Naruto's hands are so soft part. Other than that, nada. What WILL bother me though is if it continues like that for the next chapter, where they're still holding hands after a while, because then the just giving chakra thing is out.

This, the hand holding did not bother me mostly because of Naruto's behavior, I don't buy that chaKra stuff, Kishi will need to prove me wrong.

What did bother me was seeing Hinata touching Naruto's cheeks the same way lover do and what make it worse Naruto never freak out he accepted her caresses.

Edited by Don-kun, 30 December 2012 - 03:23 AM.

[Candleguy]

This, the hand holding did not bother me mostly because of Naruto's behavior, I don't buy that chaKra stuff, Kishi will need to prove me wrong.

What did bother me was seeing Hinata touching Naruto's cheeks the same way lover do and what make it worse Naruto never freak out he accepted her caresses.

I understand where you're coming from totally.

But my question is why would Naruto freak out.

IMO he was surprised/shocked, Hinata has been surprising him a lot lately. which is very reasonable since Naruto had ZERO indication that Hinata had any feelings for him before the Pain arc.

Edited by Candleguy, 30 December 2012 - 03:24 AM.

[Arachnia]

You know what the problem for me is its not even that NH becomes or is close of becoming canon the problem is if naruto will not confess like he said he would or wanted too do after getting sasuke back ,If NH is canon you would always have the feeling of what if he confessed or got a chance too confess and tell sakura how he was truely feeling about her ofc she heard it from Sai but not from Naruto.

so what i am saying here NH can become canon ofc but without the closure of NS it will never feel the same again and feel unfinished.

[Qia]

This, the hand holding did not bother me mostly because of Naruto's behavior, I don't buy that chaKra stuff, Kishi will need to prove me wrong.

What did bother me was seeing Hinata touching Naruto's cheeks the same way lovers do and what make it worse Naruto never freak out he accepted her caresses.

Uhhh to me he was still pretty much in shock, and then just moved her hand. It would be weird if he said "why the hell are you touching my cheek" because he knows how she feels and doesn't seem like a harsh character since it would have been if he'd done that even though she was just comforting him. So he let it go and focused on the battle ahead, as he's supposed to. This could also be Naruto being dense as usual.

Edited by Qia, 30 December 2012 - 03:28 AM.

[Don-kun]

I understand where you're coming from totally.

But my question is why would Naruto freak out.

IMO he was surprised/shocked, Hinata has been surprising him a lot lately. which is very reasonable since Naruto had ZERO indication that Hinata had any feelings for him before the Pain arc.

Lets look on it this way, when you care about someone but you don't want to give them the wrong impression that you feel the same way you will always do something that will kill the momentum not encourage it, freak out was a wrong therm I used because I didn't think on another expression.

Edited by Don-kun, 30 December 2012 - 03:34 AM.

[Candleguy]

You know what the problem for me is its not even that NH becomes or is close of becoming canon the problem is if naruto will not confess like he said he would or wanted too do after getting sasuke back ,If NH is canon you would always have the feeling of what if he confessed or got a chance too confess and tell sakura how he was truely feeling about her ofc she heard it from Sai but not from Naruto.

so what i am saying here NH can become canon ofc but without the closure of NS it will never feel the same again and feel unfinished.

Other fandoms say Sai's confession counts

But I find that to be out of character for Naruto to let someone else talk for him, and then for him to let the situation hang with Sasuke still not back.

[Candleguy]

Lets look on it this way, when you care about someone but you don't want to give them the wrong impression that you feel same way you will always do something that will kill the momentum not encourage it, freak out was a wrong therm I used because I didn't think on another expression.

That would be the case if she was confessing to you.

At this point (and I'm not denying its a NH moment in on itself) her intent is not to be romantic, she's giving him a life lesson. So he's stunned both ways, not only did she hit him but she's telling him to "man up"

[Arachnia]

Other fandoms say Sai's confession counts

But I find that to be out of character for Naruto to let someone else talk for him, and then for him to let the situation hang with Sasuke still not back.

hmmm counts well for some of the NS it wont count including me reason same as you just given its not the same and not naruto hes character

[fireandice]

IMO, Sakura does not have feelings for Naruto because:

-Sakura doesn't show any romantic feelings for Naruto or desire to be with him, such as jealousy when another woman is seen holding his hand. (My latter quote explained what I thought about all those "NS hints".)
-because Sakura is shown to still be in love with Sasuke, chapter 540.
-Kishi seems to be going for NH and I don't think he would make yet another love triangle this late in the game with about 100 or less chapters left. (And this is smt this thread debates all the way from page 1.)

IMO, Kishi doesn't have to make Sakura 'suddenly' fall in love with Naruto, because of his earlier hints which I interpret to mean that Sakura actually already IS in love with him. She just hasn't realised it because of her attachment and lingering feelings for Sasuke.

When she ran towards 4T Kyuubi Naruto and just went up and hugged him after the Pain invasion I think were clearly hinted to be romantic. The first, because of Yamato's comment. The second, because of how intimate the hug was, and the fact that Kakashi and the children were all BLUSHING or watching with wide-eyes. Why is there a need for Hinata's "..." if it is a platonic hug? Maybe Sakura wasn't really conscious of the fact that her feelings are clearly deeper- she just did it. Kishi wouldn't have drawn those reactions if he wanted us to see it as a definitively platonic act.

My stand is we have gotten hints on the part of both parties in NS that they are in love with the other. The RtN movie was total NS fanservice when it could have been SS and NH fanservice- the way Naruto rescued Sakura was literally like Minato and Kushina.

For NH, we have had none on Naruto's part until 615. This was despite Hinata's confession being a perfect chance for Naruto to start looking at Hinata romantically. All Kishi needed was just a few panels showing some hints. But he didn't even go back to that. Naruto didn't even think back to her confession during the war.

And IIRC, in Japanese, the "by my side all this time" was apparently referring to the more immediate present. Plus, he thanked Neji too. So I fail to see how it's definitive that Naruto saw Hinata as being by his side 'all this time' in the longer sense.

Yes, we might be in the final arc- but there's still the Team Seven thing to resolve. And the romantic aspect of Sakura's attachment to Sasuke and Naruto's love for Sakura are imo intrinsic to their entire dynamic. So Kishi wouldn't resolve the pairing right now when Sasuke hasn't even entered the battlefield. In terms of the entire manga, we are nearing the end, but the end itself is still at least 50 more chapters.

EDIT: Oh yes, about hand-holding...remember Kurama giving Kakashi chakra by holding his hand? Naruto is a shonen manga first and foremost...Kishi wouldn't have them hold hands throughout the battle just for the sake of it without a PRACTICAL application (because otherwise it is dangerous). I mean it's a battle, not a night out in Konoha.

Edited by fireandice, 30 December 2012 - 03:46 AM.

[Candleguy]

If t's funny how people think it's to late for Sakura to show feelings for Naruto this late in the game

But THEY EXPECT for Naruto to suddenly start showing feelings for Hinata this late game.

[Arachnia]

If t's funny how people think it's to late for Sakura to show feelings for Naruto this late in the game

But THEY EXPECT for Naruto to suddenly start showing feelings for Hinata this late game.

O vote this 1

[Qia]

If t's funny how people think it's to late for Sakura to show feelings for Naruto this late in the game

But THEY EXPECT for Naruto to suddenly start showing feelings for Hinata this late game.

THIS! But I think it's mostly because we haven't been shown, based on the time of Sakura's confession and how lol well it went, that Naruto still holds feelings for Sakura. That's the difference. While with Sakura we know she still feels something for Sasuke. What some people don't realize though is that Naruto never once denied that he had feelings for her even during the confession, and Sakura wouldn't use Naruto's feelings like that because even she states before that she does not want to make a mistake with this.

Edited by Qia, 30 December 2012 - 03:57 AM.

[Don-kun]

If t's funny how people think it's to late for Sakura to show feelings for Naruto this late in the game

But THEY EXPECT for Naruto to suddenly start showing feelings for Hinata this late game.

It's called fandom logic CG, Fans logic.

Lately I notice that the double standard and Hypocrisy is becoming very strong and people seems not to care.

By thy way, where is your sig and Avatar, am not use to see you with out one.

[kirabook]

I wouldn't go calling off battles that involve holding hands. Just look at the wonderful manga that was Double Arts.... (I seriously suggest reading, although its life was cut so short )


All joking aside, if Naruto hadn't given Hinata chakra and all that, I could see how that might be a romantic moment. But given Naruto's general denseness, how he transfers chakra though touch, and a lack of any romantic development for Hinata, I can't see the hand holding as a threat. As soon as the next chapter comes, they're going to let each others hands go and I expect he'll be holding hands/touching a lot more people soon. Hinata is first, but not the last.

I will admit, if it were Sakura's hand he were holding right now, I wouldn't be able to see it as anything other than romantic. The difference is NS has had actual romantic development coming from both sides. (Yeah yeah, Sakura loves Sasuke, everyone knows this, but loving someone does not mean you can't love someone else too) It would have been an interesting follow up to the hug Sakura gave him after the Pein attack, and since we know that Naruto loves Sakura, maybe he wouldn't have been holding her hand for something other than chakra transfer and reassurance. Then again, maybe he wouldn't have, since they're in the middle of war and Neji just died. (I would prefer it not be too romantic either way since Neji just died!)

Edited by kirabook, 30 December 2012 - 04:01 AM.

[James S Cassidy]

I just got into a debate with an NH fan who used the whole "Off-panel" argument. I don't care what argument anyone uses, but this one is such a terrible point. Anything could happen off-panel, but somethng that important would not.

[HalfStarStudios]

I just got into a debate with an NH fan who used the whole "Off-panel" argument. I don't care what argument anyone uses, but this one is such a terrible point. Anything could happen off-panel, but somethng that important would not.

You know, you could easily use that against them. xD

[James S Cassidy]

You know, you could easily use that against them. xD

I did XDDD

[Qia]

Remember that time Naruto saved Sakura from those zetsu clones? Pshh who knows what they talked about after that. /sarcasm