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#12941 oksus

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 01:11 AM

Wow look how short Sakura-chan's hair is compared to now.

 

ok it's only a few centimeters, but since it's so short the difference is visible. I liked that Kishi changed their design just a little bit. He gave Naruto more cheekbones too, he's face is not blubby anymore.

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#12942 AzureWaters

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 01:48 AM

I'm still pissed abt How Kishi killed Jiraiya off. Did Tsunade fall for Jiraiya ? In the end i mean.

 

There was a chance, but Kishi blew it recently. Tsunade/Dan is pretty much canon with the whole "Ill be waiting for you in the afterlife" speech.



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Posted 10 January 2014 - 01:51 AM

I also greatly enjoyed that moment in 631 with Naruto's smile at Sakura's refusal to sit back and do nothing. It was a NS moment technically, but I also can't help thinking that maybe we look too deeply at Naruto's smile. He could've just been thinking about having Team 7 together again for this fight instead of how much he loves Sakura. :ermm:

 

I dunno. I still consider it a step up in their development, but there's always that voice saying that might've just been more of a Team 7 moment instead of NaruSaku moment. Thoughts?


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Posted 10 January 2014 - 01:54 AM

You know one of my ultimate fantasies was having not only that NS moment, but Sakura going sage mode in a fit of rage for Naruto to the point where Madara had to be put on his paces to avoid being killed even with Sakura going so far as even outright SHATTERING his Perfect Susano'o

 

1)Not only would it be balls the kitten awesome

 

2)The level of SALT from the haters would fill my soul with GLEE. 

I never liked the idea of rage = power

 

In reality when you face off against somebody who is furious they are a joke. An angry person isn't thinking clearly and is unbalanced. Not only that but all you have to do to beat them is avoid them for a few brief moments and then they are out of energy because they used it all up in a fit of rage.

 

What's a lot scarier is fighting somebody who is calm and level headed no matter what the situation. A good example is Kiriyama from battle royale.

 

Though a Red Wedding scenario would be nice...

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#12945 AzureWaters

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 02:04 AM

:lol: We all need a dark moment.

 

Oh, let's just say you lose good characters, you gain hateful characters.

Do we really? Positivity suits NaruSaku more than angst imo. I feel that you desire a desperate scenario in order to reveal Sakura's feelings or to emphasize Naruto's, but this can be achieved from a more natural process as well, like a discussion between the two in the future.



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Posted 10 January 2014 - 02:27 AM

Do we really? Positivity suits NaruSaku more than angst imo. I feel that you desire a desperate scenario in order to reveal Sakura's feelings or to emphasize Naruto's, but this can be achieved from a more natural process as well, like a discussion between the two in the future.


I guess you haven't read Perfectly Imperfect Love then.
It's the perfect example of just how great NS angst can be.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 02:38 AM

 

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Who said they're the victims???

Do we really? Positivity suits NaruSaku more than angst imo. I feel that you desire a desperate scenario in order to reveal Sakura's feelings or to emphasize Naruto's, but this can be achieved from a more natural process as well, like a discussion between the two in the future.

Well, this is more on Sasuke though.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 02:50 AM

Well, this is more on Sasuke though.

Hm, I see. So you'd prefer he be darker than he is now? Similar to his Kage Summit persona? I don't see him taking a step back that far, although I do agree there will be conflict surrounding his motives.

 

I guess you haven't read Perfectly Imperfect Love then.
It's the perfect example of just how great NS angst can be.

 

Is that a fanfic?



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Posted 10 January 2014 - 02:54 AM

Well, to be honest, after seeing Madara two chapters ago, I realized that I missed that persona. It can come back since Naruto is alive.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 02:59 AM

 
Yeah, I've come across that argument several times over the years, not just in relation to NaruSaku, but a few pairings, using a platonic bond like that of brother/sister to discredit romantic development. There's just nothing sibling-like in their relationship, you don't make proclamations of love to someone you view as a brother or sister, you don't stare lovingly/tenderly in their eyes, or say they're "more or less" your girlfriend. Not unless the person has a very skewed and messed up 'sibling' relationship. :ermm: But that's a whole other thing that is highly unlikely to show up in this manga.

u love ur siblings but here narutos love is far more ahead of that. Siblngs dont confess that they love you i think u know what i am saying.

I dunno. I still consider it a step up in their development, but there's always that voice saying that might've just been more of a Team 7 moment instead of NaruSaku moment. Thoughts?

yeah i also think that.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 03:03 AM

what game is that in your signature ?

Maplestory. it's a really cute online game from Korea. I used to play it in my secondary school days but then i lost interest in leveling the characters coz its really hard.. and it spoils my computer with virus all the time.. @sushi do u get virus from it?

Do we really? Positivity suits NaruSaku more than angst imo. I feel that you desire a desperate scenario in order to reveal Sakura's feelings or to emphasize Naruto's, but this can be achieved from a more natural process as well, like a discussion between the two in the future.

I just uploaded a NS doujin with an angsty theme from a Chinese site, maybe you'll like this http://www.deviantar...war-1-425866746


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Posted 10 January 2014 - 03:05 AM

Hm, I see. So you'd prefer he be darker than he is now? Similar to his Kage Summit persona? I don't see him taking a step back that far, although I do agree there will be conflict surrounding his motives.
 
 
Is that a fanfic?


Yes it is. I highly highly recommend you read it, even if you are not into FanFiction :)

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 03:18 AM

I guess you haven't read Perfectly Imperfect Love then.
It's the perfect example of just how great NS angst can be.

 

Fan fiction angst may be entertaining to some readers, but I agree with AzureWaters.  Positivity suits NS far more than angst.
 
Naruto is the most positive and generally sunny character I can remember ever encountering.  It's the characteristic that sets him apart -- from other heroes in other stories, and from other characters in his own story.  Considering all the tragedy, mistreatment, and hardship he has endured, he remains an optimistic can-do guy.  I mean, he even managed to turn his unrequited feelings for Sakura into a positive promise that gave her hope.  He's amazing that way.
 
In fact, the only significant moment of angst we've seen from him (that I can think of right now) was when he hyperventilated after Sakura's confession and Sai explained what she was going to do.  Loads of fans -- some even here on this site -- thought it was out of character for Naruto to have a reaction so weak, negative, and just plain emo.
 
Likewise, Sakura is a very positive girl overall.  (All you have to do is compare her to Hinata to realize that.)  The only angst we've seen from Sakura is because of Sasuke -- either directly or over having hurt Naruto because of Sasuke -- and that's not an accident.  Sasuke is the poison pill of angst.
 
So yeah, some people really like reading their favorite characters in super angsty fan fiction, but I think that's precisely because it's out of character.

Edited by KnS, 10 January 2014 - 03:19 AM.


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Posted 10 January 2014 - 03:25 AM

That's the thing. Naruto and Sakura are positive light people in the series. Sakura was going to the wrong guy that will bring her down, which is why she was easily saddened by him. Strangely, if it wasn't for that chapter where she gave that poor kid food or something, I would say, "Naruto, go find someone else."

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 03:37 AM

Don't get me wrong, I agree that with what you two are saying, but there is something exciting about reading an angsty story like PIL. Despite the fact that it is a complete opposite from how NS is portrayed in Manga.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 03:46 AM

 

There was a chance, but Kishi blew it recently. Tsunade/Dan is pretty much canon with the whole "Ill be waiting for you in the afterlife" speech.

I'm not so sure about that either she did call him an old friend after he left it's a 50/50 for me. 

 

I also greatly enjoyed that moment in 631 with Naruto's smile at Sakura's refusal to sit back and do nothing. It was a NS moment technically, but I also can't help thinking that maybe we look too deeply at Naruto's smile. He could've just been thinking about having Team 7 together again for this fight instead of how much he loves Sakura. :ermm:

 

I dunno. I still consider it a step up in their development, but there's always that voice saying that might've just been more of a Team 7 moment instead of NaruSaku moment. Thoughts?

Nope that  awe smile was entirely toward Sakura and meant for her only in that moment his entire focus is on her, his happiness for T7 is  shown in the last panel  and his smile is entirely different from that one , it was a NS moment followed by T7 moment  it's simple as that.       


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Posted 10 January 2014 - 03:59 AM

Don't get me wrong, I agree that with what you two are saying, but there is something exciting about reading an angsty story like PIL. Despite the fact that it is a complete opposite from how NS is portrayed in Manga.

Well if you ask me NS has a little/enough angst on his own as a couple and that angst comes from their mutual desire to do anything to make the other person happy which makes them a perfect couple btw what's PIL ?  


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Posted 10 January 2014 - 03:59 AM

Don't get me wrong, I agree that with what you two are saying, but there is something exciting about reading an angsty story like PIL. Despite the fact that it is a complete opposite from how NS is portrayed in Manga.

 

I understand.  It's just that AzureWaters was talking about hoping for angst in the manga.

 
As for the other, if NS are portrayed out of character and as the complete opposite of the manga, then they're not really NS are they?  Some readers enjoy that kind of thing, some don't.
 
Angsty OOC fics are tried and true attention-getters, a concept that has been around since fandom was invented -- like slash.  (Or yaoi/yuri as it's called in the manga world.)  And you're right, it is entertaining to read stories where characters do things and act in ways they never will in canon.  That's what makes fan fiction fun to read and write.  ^_^


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Posted 10 January 2014 - 04:35 AM

I dont know about you,guys...but, I got a feeling that there will be a fight between team7 and team taka.. but is it possible? I mean just think about it...actually, I want to see sakura vs karin...if it does happen, karin might know something about the diamond seal power through her ancestor story..since the seal is first performed by an uzumaki...just saying...
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Posted 10 January 2014 - 05:32 AM

I was actually thinking about that recently... I feel like it's sort of difficult to write (canon, non-AU, that is) angsty NS without one or the otheror bothbeing even a little bit out of character.

Also, Sakura vs. Karin would be a non-fight.

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