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[Canadian_DJ]

Glad to be here.

Man your post was full of badassery! Awsome! Good goin' bud!

[Baguette]

Man your post was full of badassery! Awsome! Good goin' bud!

Lol thanks. I try my best

[StrikerTheNoble]

Well yea I saw some pics from RTN. What kind of retard goes and kidnaps Sakura. The last person to try that was Garra. And he got his ass anihalated. Honestly poor AU Naruto. First rule of fighting Naruto. Dont mess with Sakura unless you want to get destroyed.

[Canadian_DJ]

Yep. Hinata, the heroine.

I don't mind talking about 615-617, NaruHina had a nice moment and Hinata was able to get some development, but I really can't stand it when people speculate whether or not it makes her the heroine.

SAKURA is the heroine. This has been her role since the very beginning of the series and it's going to stay that way until the end. She's a member of Team Seven, one of five of Naruto's most important people, and has been with Naruto since the start of the series. This fact doesn't change, no matter how much development we see from Hinata.

On the other hand, HINATA is a side character. She was introduced late into the series with the rest of the rookies and has played a minor role throughout the story. She may get more attention than some of the other rookies, (some have described it as her being placed on a pedestal), but her title as side character is never going to change. We're 600+ chapters into the series and she still has no relevance to the plot. This should be all the proof you need of that.

This isn't a game of hot potato. The hero and heroine titles don't get passed around from character to character as we see fit. That's not how literature works. Example? Look at the Asuma arc. Shikamaru was getting way more development than Naruto was, but that didn't suddenly make him the hero of the series. At the end of the day, the story was still about Naruto chasing after Sasuke with Team Seven. The focus may have shifted away from them briefly, but their titles as main characters were never revoked. Kishimoto isn't about to flip the story on it's head because Hinata had some focus for two chapters. Anyone that says otherwise is either wishfully thinking or being really pessimistic.

EXACTLY!! THANK YOU!!!

BTW...your sig!!! Makes my heart melt

@baguette
No problem! Your awsome!

Edited by Canadian_DJ, 18 March 2013 - 07:14 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well yea I saw some pics from RTN. What kind of retard goes and kidnaps Sakura. The last person to try that was Garra. And he got his ass anihalated. Honestly poor AU Naruto. First rule of fighting Naruto. Dont mess with Sakura unless you want to get destroyed.

That is so true. That's like a taboo. I mean Naruto scared Gaara, that's saying a lot. Better hope Obito doesn't do the same. He will get Dempsey Roll from HnI (yeah I said it). I must admit, that will be awesome.

[Dkey]

Something i find weird is after the confessions arc (inc sakura trying to kill sasuke) Naruto and Sakura never talked about the confession. They had time to but they didn't which is kinda weird because i'm sure that one of them would of brought it up?

Not really. Team 7 isn't like team 10 where they talk a lot and are genuine friends. They are friends but each of them keep things to themselves. If we are to study Sakura's reaction in the Kage summit arc she didn't know that she was a burden to Naruto. When Jiraya died she didn't come and try to talk with him ( imho it was better that Shikamaru was the one to pep talk him because their losses was relatable). After the pain arc she tried to cheer him up but also wanted him to cheer her up.

Now I personally compare the Shinobi war arc with the Pain arc except for one fundamental thing. Naruto was the protagonist in the Pain arc but in the Shinobi arc even he was pushed back to a support role. Now compared to Sakura, Naruto's support meant being on the front line fighting the Bijuu, giving chakra to the entire army.

What I do wonder about is the last Naruto movie. Being produced by Kishimoto he probably made the movie and add Narusaku interaction because it could not fit anymore in the story line that we are shown right now. The movie itself tries to create a bond between Sakura and Naruto on the parent issue, but I fear that such an interaction will not be in the manga anymore.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

All I can say is, when people try to compare the NaruHina relation in other series and how the protagonist goes for a side character rather than the heroine, well it just comes up as one easy answer, "that's literally a different story."I mean yeah Naruto has been influenced by other series like Dragonball but they are still separate, in their own universes. Naruto is Naruto, DB is DB.

On a side note, I don't know about any of you and I'm avoiding all the Road to Ninja stuff I can but from comments I've seen on Narutofourmss and Deviantart, there are some enganged and radical activity around already. Check this one out,

http://antinhss.devi...973849#comments

This is just one fan, I am scared to think of the impending upset that others will have if NaruSaku comes true. This fan claimed a NaruHina moment was merely by her saying his name and that Sakura was the only one he was with cause she was normal and that she was there to learn to not be such a b*tch to Naruto .....

Seriously? This is what fans are coming too?

Its like many said, the NaruHina and SasuSaku crowd was drawn in during the previews and now we have a 2 sided troll event with the only pairing relationship built being Naruto's and Sakura's.

I just think the best thing ever is how many anti-NS fans and anyone just hating Sakura was entirely butthurt and just set up for something so bad. One fan even said it was all an illusion so Naruto and Sakura technically did not learn anything. It was all a genjustu so it never happened. Really? No lesson learned from these events in the movie? Its only fanservice,

Kishi made the movie, to the point people cried, its the only movie to correlate with the orginal material, is it canon? We don't know but kishi definitely showed more emotion in the movie than any form of the manga and anime ever did from what others have told me (avoiding spoilers bless them, I cannot wait for the subs).

The movie is mainly Naruto and his bond with his parents he never felt and Sakura feeling what Naruto never had. The focus on each other is secondary. Even still Naruto and Sakura really show their true colors to each other, their relationship just that deep.

All I can say to the upset NH, SS, and ANS fans

From what others have said to me about the movie spoiler free it sounds like

Don't mean to sound bad and smug but this is just funny in spite of this complaining they put on despite the emotion and friendship Naruto and Sakura show to each other.

I'm sure Hinata would have had a better role if she came to the alternate world with Naruto but guess what Kishi chose Sakura and gave her the other main role in this movie. Its for this reason they claim its the worst ever written and has no actual purpose like the other movies (which is the exact opposite, this is the only movie close to the canon realm).

Does this ultimately prove how bad some NaruHina fans can be? A bit, but its just funny how extreme they are acting for now and still trying to justify NaruHina even for something they call non-canon. They are making their own contradictions for something like this, why bother complaining if its non-canon?

As others have said, this is the type of movie with an adventure the hero goes on with the heroine, not a side character. If NaruSaku is not canon after a movie as emotional like this, all I can say is you failed us Kishi and yourself. This movie shows just the best essence of the relationship Naruto has between his parents and Sakura. Nothing Hinata could do can top this, and if this is a non-canon movie guess what, it can be topped canonically. This is the biggest non-canon string of moments, so much its better than chp 615 and it CAN AND WILL BE TOPPED.

I just cannot wait for this movie, for now I'll endulge myself in the humorus complaints of NaruHina and SasuSaku fans making asses out of themselves (only the rabbid ones not the rare logical ones).

The only reason many fans are going crazy against is movie is for one simple reason: Hinata is not the heroine and they cannot accept that Sakura is.

This

She's the nicest/kindest/politest/shiest girl in the series, none of those being a decisively NEGATIVE trait.
Especially since she's the ONLY girl (or almost only person) who actualy LIKES Naruto from the beginning, where he still was weak and clownish, NOT a Super Hero he became later on.
This is why I also dislike how Sakura (according to NaruSakus) started liking him in Shippuden - that is, when they start assuming she actually likes him, not just feels more friendly.
Either way, it's not nearly as selfless as Hinata's feelings, where she definitely didn't want/expect anything in return (cue "bring Sasuke-kun back").
That's why I can imagine Sakura with Sasuke (cause their relationship IS similar to what I just said), while I definitely don't WANT her with Naruto - simply cause this stinks of selfishness on her part.

What is the name of this manga?

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 18 March 2013 - 07:21 PM.

[Canadian_DJ]

That is so true. That's like a taboo. I mean Naruto scared Gaara, that's saying a lot. Better hope Obito doesn't do the same. He will get Dempsey Roll from HnI (yeah I said it). I must admit, that will be awesome.

Lol funny! Dont mess with sakura, or you'll have to deal with her brutal strength and her man naruto
^^
@darkrerst LOL!!

Edited by Canadian_DJ, 18 March 2013 - 07:23 PM.

[StrikerTheNoble]

Not really. Team 7 isn't like team 10 where they talk a lot and are genuine friends. They are friends but each of them keep things to themselves. If we are to study Sakura's reaction in the Kage summit arc she didn't know that she was a burden to Naruto. When Jiraya died she didn't come and try to talk with him ( imho it was better that Shikamaru was the one to pep talk him because their losses was relatable). After the pain arc she tried to cheer him up but also wanted him to cheer her up.

Now I personally compare the Shinobi war arc with the Pain arc except for one fundamental thing. Naruto was the protagonist in the Pain arc but in the Shinobi arc even he was pushed back to a support role. Now compared to Sakura, Naruto's support meant being on the front line fighting the Bijuu, giving chakra to the entire army.

What I do wonder about is the last Naruto movie. Being produced by Kishimoto he probably made the movie and add Narusaku interaction because it could not fit anymore in the story line that we are shown right now. The movie itself tries to create a bond between Sakura and Naruto on the parent issue, but I fear that such an interaction will not be in the manga anymore.

Sorry but I dissagree. Assuming that they win with minimal casualties they will have plenty of time to hang out and have NS moments.


@ Narusaku4life

Let the pwnage begin.

[kirabook]

It's true, Naruto and Sakura won't have an understanding on the parent issue I don't believe. It's something that is hard to imitate in the manga since Naruto's parents are dead and I don't believe he's going to use the actual movie plot in the manga itself. Sakura won't be able to understand Naruto to the extent that her movie self does now.

But just because she can't understand him completely doesn't mean she can't sympathize. Can we honestly expect her to truly understand what it feels like grow up completely alone and have the entire village fear and scorn you for most of your life? Sasuke doesn't understand that, not even Gaara to some extent, but he's the closest. Whether Sakura understands or not is not the most important thing either way, it's that she cares. In the manga, Sakura may not understand what Naruto is going through completely, but she cares anyway and put his happiness above hers as soon as she found out she was doing wrong.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

It's true, Naruto and Sakura won't have an understanding on the parent issue I don't believe. It's something that is hard to imitate in the manga since Naruto's parents are dead and I don't believe he's going to use the actual movie plot in the manga itself. Sakura won't be able to understand Naruto to the extent that her movie self does now.

But just because she can't understand him completely doesn't mean she can't sympathize. Can we honestly expect her to truly understand what it feels like grow up completely alone and have the entire village fear and scorn you for most of your life? Sasuke doesn't understand that, not even Gaara to some extent, but he's the closest. Whether Sakura understands or not is not the most important thing either way, it's that she cares. In the manga, Sakura may not understand what Naruto is going through completely, but she cares anyway and put his happiness above hers as soon as she found out she was doing wrong.

Gaara was worse he was hated just like Naruto but he had parents who wanted him dead.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Knowing that Minato is alive, it's time to see if Sakura knows already about his parents. I do hope Minato bumps in with Naruto and Sakura.

[kirabook]

Yeah, I was going to type in parenthesis that Gaara's situation could actually be considered worse, but I've been trying to cut down on long windedness,

I really hope Orochimaru doesn't troll the Kage's and lets' them all go to the battle field. But given it seems the Harashima broke free of Orochimaru's control (apparently?) maybe Oro couldn't stop them even if he wanted to

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yeah, I was going to type in parenthesis that Gaara's situation could actually be considered worse, but I've been trying to cut down on long windedness,

I really hope Orochimaru doesn't troll the Kage's and lets' them all go to the battle field. But given it seems the Harashima broke free of Orochimaru's control (apparently?) maybe Oro couldn't stop them even if he wanted to

We just have to wait and see. For all we know, there could be a plan to this. Orochimaru did it freely, so why. I don't trust him at all in this whole situation. He's a snake you know.

[AzureWaters]

Knowing that Minato is alive, it's time to see if Sakura knows already about his parents. I do hope Minato bumps in with Naruto and Sakura.

I'm wondering if things will get a bit too hectic to have a real upcoming pairing moment. Kishi is able to do war-time romance but by the time we get back to the battlefield, Sasuke and the Hokages will probably have shown up. As we know Sasuke takes almost all of Naruto's attention once he's in the vicinity, but we'll see.

[swagosaurus]

I'm wondering if things will get a bit too hectic to have a real upcoming pairing moment. Kishi is able to do war-time romance but by the time we get back to the battlefield, Sasuke and the Hokages will probably have shown up. As we know Sasuke takes almost all of Naruto's attention once he's in the vicinity, but we'll see.

I have a feeling Sasuke might not join the war. Orochimaru himself said he had no interest in it, and Sasuke hasn't shown any, either. It's only been said that the Hokage's will join in.

Which I'd actually prefer, tbh. It would be kind of...anti-climactic to just have Sasuke meet with Naruto again, only to fight him the next arc. The Kage Summit arc left us with the impression that their next meeting would be the final battle, so..yeah. D:

[kirabook]

Yeah, I don't want Sasuke/his team/Oro to show up, just the Kage's.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I have a feeling Sasuke might not join the war. Orochimaru himself said he had no interest in it, and Sasuke hasn't shown any, either. It's only been said that the Hokage's will join in.

Which I'd actually prefer, tbh. It would be kind of...anti-climactic to just have Sasuke meet with Naruto again, only to fight him the next arc. The Kage Summit arc left us with the impression that their next meeting would be the final battle, so..yeah. D:

If retreat is possible, I can see Madara being confronted by Sasuke and others while others are away and not knowing what's going on. When Naruto returns, he'll realize that Sasuke has now entered the battlefield. I do think Obito is next to die, possibly in the next volume. Obito did have a flashback and his story is pretty getting closure during this battle. Madara seems to be safe until Sasuke shows up since they have been built up since Kyuubi mentioned him.

[AzureWaters]

I have a feeling Sasuke might not join the war. Orochimaru himself said he had no interest in it, and Sasuke hasn't shown any, either. It's only been said that the Hokage's will join in.

Which I'd actually prefer, tbh. It would be kind of...anti-climactic to just have Sasuke meet with Naruto again, only to fight him the next arc. The Kage Summit arc left us with the impression that their next meeting would be the final battle, so..yeah. D:

If the kages go to the battlefield, Oro will have to follow. Hashirama is the only one in control of himself-- the rest, including Minato, are under Orochimaru's command.

Kishimoto already said that Naruto and Sasuke would meet during the war. Sasuke also wants to stop Madara.

[TouKen4Life3g]

If the kages go to the battlefield, Oro will have to follow. Hashirama is the only one in control of himself-- the rest, including Minato, are under Orochimaru's command.

Kishimoto already said that Naruto and Sasuke would meet during the war. Sasuke also wants to stop Madara.

True, therefore a retreat could happen. Will it? I don't know. I just get the feeling that Obito will bite the dust first. I want to see how everything goes down first in the conversation.