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[narulsaku]

just you know there are some perticular time for everything try to make a time table i ll help.

[HauntedCake]

lmfao just been looking around for some troll pics..

[Gravenimage]

lmfao just been looking around for some troll pics..

lol.

[Soul]

@HauntedCake

I laughed hard at the second one !

Edited by Zeref, 18 March 2013 - 10:46 AM.

[StrikerTheNoble]

lmfao just been looking around for some troll pics..

The second one is the ultimate win.

[HauntedCake]

Found quite an interesting page.

http://sandee511.dev...usaku-319737608

Btw is the panel with Sakura asking herself "what is this feeling" real. If so which chapter?

[PhenixElite]

Found quite an interesting page.

http://sandee511.dev...usaku-319737608

Btw is the panel with Sakura asking herself "what is this feeling" real. If so which chapter?

Yes it is. I dont know the exact chapter but it is during the zabuza arc, as far as i know something between chapter
1- 30

[HauntedCake]

Yes it is. I dont know the exact chapter but it is during the zabuza arc, as far as i know something between chapter
1- 30

Weird isn't it? In that panel she clearly shows she has feeling of "love" developing for Naruto, yet openly shouts around she "loves" SASUKE-KUN!!!!!

Edited by HauntedCake, 18 March 2013 - 12:52 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Weird isn't it? In that panel she cleary shows she has feeling of "love" developing for Naruto, yet openly shouts around she "loves" SASUKE-KUN!!!!!

I think Kishi had a backup if his series runs very short like it didn't work to his favor. Kind of like how Busou Renkin got it all ready in case of cancellation, which it did.

[Canadian_DJ]

615-617 had no NaruHina moments. They were Hinata moments. Naruto isn't going to just fall for Hinata. If he was going to, then he would of been romantic with Hinata, instead he avoided doing that. She is only his friend, and she accepts that. Proof of her acceptance is when she smiled while Sakura romantically hugged Naruto.

^
This TEN fold!! This is LOGIC!

[Canadian_DJ]

For me it doesnt matter wheter its NH or SS, both of them are pure hell-

Exactly!

[PhenixElite]

I think Kishi had a backup if his series runs very short like it didn't work to his favor. Kind of like how Busou Renkin got it all ready in case of cancellation, which it did.

Good catch, havent thought about somthing like this.
Means that NS must be canon.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Good catch, havent thought about somthing like this.
Means that NS must be canon.

Most likely, if not 100%, yes. It's the matter of betraying the work that's still in play, but at the moment, I don't really think Kishi is going to do that. He may had a hard time to please a lot of fans with side characters, but main plot point is where he hits it home.

[PhenixElite]

Most likely, if not 100%, yes. It's the matter of betraying the work that's still in play, but at the moment, I don't really think Kishi is going to do that. He may had a hard time to please a lot of fans with side characters, but main plot point is where he hits it home.

Exactly, i think we should be happy that hinata was the one who got her moment first, since its sidecharacters first, main characters later. She had her time so sakura is gonna be under the next ones.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Exactly, i think we should be happy that hinata was the one who got her moment first, since its sidecharacters first, main characters later. She had her time so sakura is gonna be under the next ones.

Honestly, my only concern is how Sakura will get her moment. The movie shows that she can keep up and display really good feat in her combat. That said I want her to shine, which will happen and once and for all for nay sayers, confirm NS is still and always will be alive.

[narulsaku]

Exactly, i think we should be happy that hinata was the one who got her moment first, since its sidecharacters first, main characters later. She had her time so sakura is gonna be under the next ones.

but the nh fans doesnt understand that i think.
@foolish young ling-- the hand holding part you cant be 100%sure that it wasnt romantic. i think from naruto it may not be a romantic part . it may be a good friendship. but for hinata it was romantic.

[Codus N]

It's true, these are NaruHina moments, but these explanations are to diffuse the insane conclusion jumping claims many insane fans brought about. They Say Naruto just suddenly loves Hinata now when there are many reasons saying how other things are basically still intact.

Its basically the same way they claimed NaruSaku died at the confession, in the same way they jumped to conclusions then, they did it again recently in December. So yeah while it is a string of NaruHina moments, honestly Hinata needed it, she was bland and did nothing of massive use until now. All I'm saying is, these people need to take a breather beyond the moments and realize the events themselves, not assuming what they want. I mean again if Naruto suddenly loved Hinata out of this, that equals plot damage, throw out the Naruto Sakura friendship development throughout the majority of part 2.

They were canon NaruHina moments like much of the other NaruSaku moments, but it does not justify NaruHina as suddenly canon as many insane fans claim it to be.

-Were these NaruHina moments in chp 615-617? Yes
-Motivational? Yes
-Romantic? Only on Hinata's side, Naruto's side it was not, he was most likely thinking of all those (parents, Itachi, chiyo, Nagato, etc) who put their faith in him and gave him the development to get where he stood. More than that, we can see he was thinking about those who sacrificed for him and putting the plan into motion, he knew kurama had to get energy for the plan, Shikaku told him this plan via Inoichi and all other ninja before they died so yeah the plan was in the works before even neji died.
-Sakura's reaction? This is what many fans have just passed by, why and just why would one panel be given to Sakura? This type of thing makes people think, even Slextrem put this in her video, it was during the speeches duration we see her reaction, why and why only her? Is she reacting to the speech, hinata, or something else (Tsunade's condition)? I bet its centered around the speech though and even then, it has something on Sakura's part we still have to see.

Basically what I was saying is by dissecting these, its more or less the underlying meanings of these high moments on each character. Can Naruto start to love Hinata out of this, possibly, this could be the start of NaruHina, but as of right now, we don't know Naruto's feelings. Sakura's still matter in this case too, again Kishi could have left out that reaction panel but he still puts it in, I mean if there is some event that makes Sakura notice them and not care or think shes is right for Naruto or the same in reverse with Hinata noticing Naruto and Sakura together, these situations could more or less signal a canon pairing (so if Sakura supported Hinata being with Naruto then NaruHina would be much likelier and vice versa, we want that vice versa to come). Sakura's feelings cannot be cast out into the cold because of this one panel, this along with chp 540 and her feelings on Sasuke are mainly what drive this right now.

Basically until the manga reveals something we truely cannot say where Naruto's feelings or Sakura's lie. Only Hinata's remain clear. Its just that NaruSaku has many things saying its still alive and there are still more reasons saying Naruto loves Sakura (we even have fillers saying this) by way of story elements and consistency/logic for characters. The confession and their mentalities again, Naruto cannot stay not loving Sakura and not forgive her when he knew it was for his benefit and Sai himself said he felt he drove Sakura to do it. Naruto can forgive many evil doers but not Sakura and no longer love her for the simple lie to protect him, logic break right there. Sakura cannot stay loving Sasuke, damages her character SS would cause too much damage for the story and Sasuke and Sakura's characters. Still so many parallels and other events have Naruto and Sakura still in a close relationship.

If Naruto could not forgive Sakura and just stopped loving her, that's a cheap way to open up NaruHina. Naruto is still up on the promise to sakura and to just suddenly drop the fact of (how can I confess to her, I can't even keep my promises) why would kishi just drop this 12 chapters later? Seriously? That makes the promise much weaker and worthless at this point if he stopped loving Sakura. The promise is not just to Sakura, it became for all of team 7. It was only the first of many events to give Naruto all the more reason to save Sasuke. He is rescuing Sasuke for both the promise and his own reasons (parents, revenge, Itachi, ninja world, curse of hatred, etc).

So yeah NaruHina has a lot of story elements to drop suddenly if Naruto truly gave up on Sakura (and giving up is contradictory to his character). Until we see them together again, no telling. But one thing is good about Naruto and Sakura, they know to think of love some other time, not in the middle of a battlefield like Hinata. Get all mushy and emotional when downtime comes and the current fight is halted.

I still get a laugh out of all the insane fans being butthurt over Hinata not being unique and tackling the ten tails alone with both Naruto and Bee. That was a massive troll moment from Kishi. If Hinata can do something big and motivational and still be friend zoned, don't know what she should do at this point to turn Naruto away from Sakura. I mean at least in big moments Naruto and Sakura have acknowledged each other in hard events and given mutual development. Hinata's speech to Naruto, 5 seconds of attention, lets go of hand, friend zoned again.

In any case, only the manga can fulfill any answers when the time comes. Nothing else. But that's where there is still a lot of speculation around and a lot of evidence for narusaku to come its way.

^THIS. Just this. It's very sad to see fans here outright denying it's not. That, honestly, is a very disappointing stance to take. I've been very irked to see NS fans saying it's not a NH moment, when in fact, it is. It was meant to be romantic in context. Period. BUT. The one thing that we can say for sure is that it's not a done deal yet. To be honest, I don't mind acknowledging it as an NH moment. But it's more like I'm acknowledging they just won this one round when the truth is that there's still plenty to come.

I'll also bring up 617. To be honest, I will admit that this may actually solidify Hinata as the heroine. But only if Kishimoto keeps this development up and make it consistent.

616 was pretty good chapter in my opinion. Well, at least the best out of the Shounen in that week, because it felt like we are finally moving. I think the color pages stole the show though. I love it.

If i remember correctly, chapters with color pages are unranked, meaning it's just placed randomly.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

^THIS. Just this. It's very sad to see fans here outright denying it's not. That, honestly, is a very disappointing stance to take. I've been very irked to see NS fans saying it's not a NH moment, when in fact, it is. It was meant to be romantic in context. Period. BUT. The one thing that we can say for sure is that it's not a done deal yet. To be honest, I don't mind acknowledging it as an NH moment. But it's more like I'm acknowledging they just won this one round when the truth is that there's still plenty to come.

I'll also bring up 617. To be honest, I will admit that this may actually solidify Hinata as the heroine. But only if Kishimoto keeps this development up and make it consistent.

It's too late to solidify her as "the heroine', because the heroine keep going on the entire story sakura is on all arcs and even had a lot of situations, Hinata had 10~15 panels on the entire part 2 without this arc, now that the arc is a development of side characters, if she has to be "the heroine" then Ino should get this title also since she did way more stuff than Hinata and had a huge development on this arc and even Shikaramu who got way more develpment, Hinata only had the death of Neji, Shikamaru and Ino faced their former teacher, improved their team tagging, then later their fathers died, then think about their growth and Ino think about friendship and love.

being seriously Kishimoto developed Ino, Shikamaru and Chouji as whole and Hinata only "naruto-kun".
Ino currently deserves "the heroine" status way more than Hinata if you'd ask my opinion.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 18 March 2013 - 01:52 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

^THIS. Just this. It's very sad to see fans here outright denying it's not. That, honestly, is a very disappointing stance to take. I've been very irked to see NS fans saying it's not a NH moment, when in fact, it is. It was meant to be romantic in context. Period. BUT. The one thing that we can say for sure is that it's not a done deal yet. To be honest, I don't mind acknowledging it as an NH moment. But it's more like I'm acknowledging they just won this one round when the truth is that there's still plenty to come.

I'll also bring up 617. To be honest, I will admit that this may actually solidify Hinata as the heroine. But only if Kishimoto keeps this development up and make it consistent.



If i remember correctly, chapters with color pages are unranked, meaning it's just placed randomly.

I do call it a NH moment but nothing that will kill NS. It's like I said in the other thread, they at least get the fan service that will make them happy, but nothing that will scream canon or anything like that. It is what it is. I never thought of her as a heroine. That was the moment to show how helpful friends can be. Team 7 are above that level for Naruto and we will see how they are. This arc demonstrates the bond and importances from many like former enemies, kages, etc. Honestly, I don't think Kishi really put Hinata on a pedestal as we keep thinking. Just wait until the end and then, we can tally up.

I don't know how it works, but I do know color chapter really helps rating. I don't know how it works but I think the current issue with the color page means the past chapter that's getting ranked won't count. Kind of wish Bakuman was clear on that.

[PhenixElite]

I'll also bring up 617. To be honest, I will admit that this may actually solidify Hinata as the heroine. But only if Kishimoto keeps this development up and make it consistent.

I didnt know that 2 moments can turn a sidecharacter into a heroine. I also dont know how chapter 617 can be seen as a special moment, since i dont see a big deal that hinata got 2 panels of pushing narutos shoulder back in place.