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#12801 Dkey

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 07:45 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Mar 17 2013, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NH fan: Sorry, but i will ignore tou further. You actually compare the Naruto and Hinata hand holding with Naruto tapping Shikamaru and i stopped reading. Don't react back, please!

Me: So you start ignoring the opposition when they provide evidence to refute your claims along with additional arguments that further disprove your beliefs, and not to mention a plethora of story/writing reasons that support their side that you have yet to be able to refute?
It's okay if you can't keep up with this debate, but don't make up a ridiculous excuse just to get out of it.

NH fan: No, I am just honest with that I did not read any of your points. Since I know the truth already. No need in discussing this with someone who compares tapping with holding hands.

Me: If you "knew the truth already," you would have no problems considering my points and refuting them in support of this undeniable "truth."
Deliberate ignorance makes it apparent that one fears to hear what another has to say.
And perhaps I should have added a smiley after my NaruShika quip, but you missed the part where I followed up with "in all seriousness" and "though I talked about NaruShika in jest."
Using it as an excuse to back out of a debate doesn't speak for your apparent confidence in your pairing, no offense.

NH fan: Why do you keep replying me. I already told you please don't write back. I don't even read it. Sorry. Good day! With all respect. Cheers. Good day.

Me: Good day, sir. Hopefully you don't do this in all debates you lose in.

NH fan: How can I lose when I don't even read your comments. Good day.

Me: If you read my previous comments then you would know that I have already explained that. Good day indeed.

NH fan: Ok, you win debate. You are winner. Please, quiet now. Thank you and good day, sir.



Now when I first looked back upon this debate, I was pissed. Not only did this guy try to step around my arguments, but he even had the balls to feign ignorance when I kept pressing him on the issue. My initial conclusion was that he was just another idiotic NH fan who couldn't even back up his own point of view. But then, I took another look at this statement:
No, I am just honest with that I did not read any of your points. Since I know the truth already. No need in discussing this with someone who compares tapping with holding hands.

And then it clicked. There is simply no way anyone could genuinely be as stupid as this guy seemed to be, to remain so confident in their pairing even in the face of all the mounting evidence against it. Therefore, the only logical conclusion I could come to was that he indeed knew some truth that I did not, that I was the unenlightened one here. It finally made sense, as there has to be a good reason for so many people to ship NaruHina; they must all know something that we as NaruSaku fans refuse to see. They know the truth. And with that I finally realized that, yes, there is no denying it. NaruHina will become canon.



Your conversation with him was indeed scary.

Did NaruHina become a religion and we didn't know? Should we be worried for our souls?

Edited by Dkey, 17 March 2013 - 07:54 PM.


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Posted 17 March 2013 - 07:45 PM

QUOTE (Arachnia @ Mar 17 2013, 03:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
well NH is not hell, problem is thought NH is going too happen then so is SS and that is not cool and total hell:P and will ruin the overall story for me. but i am sure its not only me

I'm with you here. I don't see NH as hell but I don't see why it should happen with the amount of communication. It's to say don't know the guy better and you can win his heart. That's not the case. That's like Sasuke accepting a fan girl love. It's just the connection that will bring you closer. I have been out for a while and noticing that stuff like NS (with or without tsundere comedy) has always been like that and always get together. Honestly, I'll pay good money to see the aftermath of Naruto series like how Disney used to do or still does I think. It's not necessary a GT per say but rather a calm fun episode. But Japan won't do that, so boo hoo for me. Nevertheless, I want NS canon and that's final.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 07:48 PM

they know the truth? Ooh, finally I'm still wondering what gave the birth to universe, if there'is some time machine somewhere in the world or there're alines on Moon or Mars..... Finally it seems that all these questions will have their answers!

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 07:48 PM

^Baguette. I know, this hasn't only happened with the handholding. NH fans single what Hinata does like she's the only one.

Hinata risked her life for Naruto, she would do anything for him and therefore she is his suited lover.
- Iruka did too, in the first episode. Tsunade did too..heck even Ebisu risked his life for him, and the rest of the village too when they refused to tell Pain about his location. Just because they didn't jump in front of the Akatsuki leader doesn't mean it's any less valuable. Reminds me of the Bruno Mars song, "I would jump in front of a grenade for you". XD

She also said she would walk with him, but Shikamaru did too. It's comradeship, foreshadowing how he'll be as a leader. They'll all walk with him.

I usually am not really annoyed with their arguments, but they throw away other characters heroic actions just to pretend that she's the one standing out. It's not fair for the others that has risked their life for him sleep.gif

Edited by sushi., 17 March 2013 - 07:49 PM.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 07:49 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Mar 17 2013, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Glad to be here. pictureem0.gif

It was all sarcasm? I'm really bad at picking that up. Gotta say that was one elaborate feint. I'm scared to think what you would do for April fools.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 07:54 PM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Mar 17 2013, 07:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Glad to be here. pictureem0.gif


I thought you were seriously defecting.. I LOVE YOU !!! biggrin.gif

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:01 PM

I don't know what's scarier: unitology from DS or NH.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:10 PM

QUOTE (Arachnia @ Mar 17 2013, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
well NH is not hell, problem is thought NH is going too happen then so is SS and that is not cool and total hell:P and will ruin the overall story for me. but i am sure its not only me

Hmm, so if NH happens and SS doesnt become canon your ok with it? huh.gif

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:10 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 17 2013, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know what's scarier: unitology from DS or NH.


nh scares me more mellow.gif

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:33 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Mar 17 2013, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm, so if NH happens and SS doesnt become canon your ok with it? huh.gif


no i wont like it as much as NS but SS really would be kitten hitting the fan xD a big fan

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:35 PM

It shouldnt scare anyone, especialy since NaruHina is only in the imaginations of its fandom and not reality. The same with SasuSaku which again doesnt exist save as a minor plot point to elevate the rivalry between Naruto and Sasuke.

The only relationships with any given on screen development are NaruSaku and Sasukarin.

the only confirmed relationships are JiraiyaTsunade, and MinatoKushina and AsumaKurenai, and HashiramaMito, also YahikoKonan.

these are defined as relationships with actual tangible end results such as children or a clear romantic moment, or a clear and unambiguous admittance of feelings.

there is of course the usual caveat about the author changing his mind, but until such a resolution is reached and clearly shown ""on panel"" any panic or speculation is absurd.
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:36 PM

I think I'm in a very green zone now

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 09:06 PM

QUOTE (catsi563 @ Mar 17 2013, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It shouldnt scare anyone, especialy since NaruHina is only in the imaginations of its fandom and not reality. The same with SasuSaku which again doesnt exist save as a minor plot point to elevate the rivalry between Naruto and Sasuke.

The only relationships with any given on screen development are NaruSaku and Sasukarin.

the only confirmed relationships are JiraiyaTsunade, and MinatoKushina and AsumaKurenai, and HashiramaMito, also YahikoKonan.

these are defined as relationships with actual tangible end results such as children or a clear romantic moment, or a clear and unambiguous admittance of feelings.

there is of course the usual caveat about the author changing his mind, but until such a resolution is reached and clearly shown ""on panel"" any panic or speculation is absurd.

No love for Dan? tongue.gif

Although I really don't know what would Tsunade's conclusion be about Dan right now when in comparison to her willingness to be in a relationship with Jiraiya had he returned alive. That's probably a mystery that might never be solved, unless Tsunade has some flashback regarding Jiraiya in the near future. If she ends up dying it could be possible.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 09:16 PM

I don't feel that there was any real resolution for Tsunade pairing wise. Dan died and Jiraiya died before they could take the relationship further. Either way, I like both of them.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 09:21 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Mar 17 2013, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No love for Dan? tongue.gif

Although I really don't know what would Tsunade's conclusion be about Dan right now when in comparison to her willingness to be in a relationship with Jiraiya had he returned alive. That's probably a mystery that might never be solved, unless Tsunade has some flashback regarding Jiraiya in the near future. If she ends up dying it could be possible.

I feel like if Tsunade is going to die, then she may recap her life and relationships with many, including Jiraiya. Think as Jiraiya's death. I didn't know he really loves Tsunade to the point he never moved on. He may messed with other women, but love didn't fade.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 10:10 PM

NaruHina is a glorified version of LeeSaku. There, I said it.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 10:13 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Mar 17 2013, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NaruHina is a glorified version of LeeSaku. There, I said it.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 10:18 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 17 2013, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 10:19 PM

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 10:49 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Mar 17 2013, 06:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NaruHina is a glorified version of LeeSaku. There, I said it.

Well, it's about time. I think that's how it's supposed to be but thanks to Naruto being main protagonist, she will get more moments. Funny, I didn't know Lee still loves Sakura back in Kage Summit Arc, let alone the spin-off. It seems like it's still intact in the war but it could be over soon.




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