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[T XD]

I just want to say that Kishi might go with 662 in a different way. Like not having next chapter the alliance knowing and Sakura, Minato, etc beside him. It really can have just Gaara who's helping Naruto knowing a way from Kurama and showing the Bijuu, then the others will know about Naruto's situation, or Gaara knew a way to release the Bijuu from Madara's control instead being the one rescuing Naruto, and that's it for next chapter.

Then 662 - 663 include showing Gaara and the alliance or something like that, then very possible that they'll know about Naruto, if they didn't have before and if he's not rescued by Gaara already, with Sakura or Minato rushing towards him and one of them saves him and maybe accompanied with Sasuke and Kakashi.

 

Second way, he can right away, half way through the chapter, have Sakura or Minato going and rescuing Naruto with Gaara shown besides them or gone to aid the Bijuu. That also being going for like five chapters or so.

 

I won't be surprised either if it gets to just be Gaara rescuing him then having the ones close to him just showing their reactions and not be beside him while Gaara just doing the aid. It's somewhat far fetched, but it can be done.

 

Maybe I did say that already in a previous post. Sorry if I already did.

Edited by T XD, 06 January 2014 - 11:24 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

^Happy? She was ignorant and blinded. Ignorance can be your bestfriend.
 She eventually started getting to know him, she wasn't so ignorant anymore. She was still in love, but I can't say she was happy. Or, not because of him. He's saved her life and there was a time team 7 was happy together, but name one time he made her at least smile(except that one time he was the one that hurt her in the first place).

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She states it and i expressed those on my posts, the missions they did, team 7 is what made her happy however it's tied to Sasuke and that made her happy as expressed by her own words.

Later she claims here that without him she would be lonely
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 while she had a crush on him but the fact they become comrades made her happy and even Naruto's flashbacks on her confession showed her smiling happily, Sasuke never did anything to make her happy but the solely reason he was there made her the same thing how Sakura did to Naruto when Sai asked if he loved Sakura, he was happily smiling towards her.

I don't think it's fair to represent the strength of her love by her happiness.

And it's not fair either to say that her love is weaker because she's matured and is not dumb enough to be uncapable of understanding the situation, being her love interest or not Sasuke is an former akatsuki member, an enemy and which vowed to destroy the village she lives in, just because she hasnt fangirled doesnt make her love weaker, she just know about what's right on her life, but still lacked something that is represented on the link above, she claimed she would be lonely without Sasuke however Naruto filled that hole and give her a purpose on her life(train harder to be a better medic) but however is tied once again to team 7.

Tsunade is also an example of this, she became a traveler and was gambling from town to town after the loss of her brother and her boyfriend which she even adopted his sister as her student, but she was very sad and didnt had any other purpose on her life, until Jiraiya showed up and offered the hokage position and Naruto entered on the scene.
 

Unless Sasuke alone is a main source, important enough to showcase her feelings like you did.

If Sasuke alone would be the main source would be impossible for her to move on, because it would have groundwork and most important Sasuke would had been gentle and supported her in the past which hasnt happened.
However Sakura acknowledges only team 7 as her source of happiness on which ties to Sasuke.

Naruto on other hand acknowledges much more things than Sakura, which is why he wont fail like Obito even if Sakura dies.
Sakura on other hand was about to fail until the chapter where she saw Naruto's determination and she vowed to help him, walking her own kunoichi path.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 06 January 2014 - 11:34 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

That's another thing, if she will be lonely, she shouldn't be all happy. She is. The real source of happiness is showing deeply. Team 7 is definitely one, but the individual level, Naruto is the one. And I'm not even basing on databook, which btw clearly said that her happiness shouldn't be there if Sasuke is away forever. I have seen other anime/manga that when the potential love interest leaves for a long time in a danger note, that person would be "different" from before. Sakura sure hasn't gone sadness, wouldn't you say?

[sushi.]

Wow, darkrerst. You put a lot of words in my mouth. example; I said a main source, not the main source.

 

(And did you really take her words from her confession literally?)

 

When talking about Sasuke as Sakura's love interest, bringing him up as a teammember is a mistake. I meant him individually. Naruto also made her happy? And Kakashi? What distinguishes Sasuke from them then? When talking about romance, you must bring out what sticks out.

 

I do agree that Sakura's love is not weaker because now sees who Sasuke is, but that is not the point. In the very beginning of the series she was ignorant. She didn't know Sasuke well, yet she was happy. I don't believe her happiness back then is an accurate representation of her love when she knew little about it or him.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

That's another thing, if she will be lonely, she shouldn't be all happy. She is. The real source of happiness is showing deeply. Team 7 is definitely one, but the individual level, Naruto is the one. And I'm not even basing on databook, which btw clearly said that her happiness shouldn't be there if Sasuke is away forever. I have seen other anime/manga that when the potential love interest leaves for a long time in a danger note, that person would be "different" from before. Sakura sure hasn't gone sadness, wouldn't you say?

Which is one of the things that lacked on her confession towards Naruto, she hasnt expressed that she's happy with Naruto and that's enough.
It shows that she hasnt acknowledge it.

Yep which is her biggest mistake that she also hasnt acknowledged, she claimed she would be lonely and her life would be meaningless but Naruto saved her with the POAL and after on the hospital scene, but from the reader's perspective.
 

Wow, darkrerst. You put a lot of words in my mouth. example; I said a main source, not the main source.
 
(And did you really take her words from her confession literally?)
 
When talking about Sasuke as Sakura's love interest, bringing him up as a teammember is a mistake. I meant him individually. Naruto also made her happy? And Kakashi? What distinguishes Sasuke from them then? When talking about romance, you must bring out what sticks out.
 
I do agree that Sakura's love is not weaker because now sees who Sasuke is, but that is not the point.

That's the problem when it comes to explain a character's love, i'm basing off from her perspective and it seems conclusive, us readers have seem everything and concluded that Naruto is another source of her happiness and she can be very happy with him without the need of Sasuke or team 7, but from her perspective is another story.
What distinguish Naruto and Kakashi from Sasuke is the fact that he's her crush and she didnt had any other reason to love him other than being a cool guy, she found "happiness" and it become love.
On the same way Naruto found his "she also wants Sasuke's acknowledgement" as a reason to state he's in love with her and there's nothing else more who makes her special, as an example Sakura supported Naruto but also other characters did it too like Iruka and etc...

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 07 January 2014 - 12:49 AM.

[FireFox]

Have you guys seen this NaruSaku 2014 event that's going on tumblr  you should check it out it's awesome is there a thread on this site for that ?

 

BTW I'm new here hope to share all of my NaruSaku love with all of you beautiful people,it's nice to find a place where NaruSaku is loved so much instead of hate THANK GOD for that    

[Inferno180]

One thing I still find funny is how in the whole love ordeal with the series, both naruto and sakura have been questioned about who they love, naruto we saw good reasons why he felt about sakura and sakura well we saw 2 instances where her love for Sasuke has been portrayed badly.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Have you guys seen this NaruSaku 2014 event that's going on tumblr  you should check it out it's awesome is there a thread on this site for that ?
 
BTW I'm new here hope to share all of my NaruSaku love with all of you beautiful people,it's nice to find a place where NaruSaku is loved so much instead of hate THANK GOD for that

That's right. You're welcome.

-the founder

[FireFox]

That's right. You're welcome.

-the founder

Yeah Thank you so much for that and to the other members who created that event,actually you guys are the reason i decided to join in this forum and i've been a lurker here for about 3 years and i've never had an interest in debating and seeing the fandom so excited and lively over this inspired me to do it so yeah thank you guys a lot for that  keep up the good work NS all the way hope this year it becomes canon   

[narulsaku]

Have you guys seen this NaruSaku 2014 event that's going on tumblr  you should check it out it's awesome is there a thread on this site for that ?
 
BTW I'm new here hope to share all of my NaruSaku love with all of you beautiful people,it's nice to find a place where NaruSaku is loved so much instead of hate THANK GOD for that    

glad to have
another fan . Welcome to H&E.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yeah Thank you so much for that and to the other members who created that event,actually you guys are the reason i decided to join in this forum and i've been a lurker here for about 3 years and i've never had an interest in debating and seeing the fandom so excited and lively over this inspired me to do it so yeah thank you guys a lot for that  keep up the good work NS all the way hope this year it becomes canon

Thankfully, you didn't thank me only because many of others deserve the credit for putting up this amazing work of theirs.

[Paptala]

I got to disagree with Hinata's part in your post, Paptala. For Pain Arc, it was all about the village association to Naruto, so we got to have how Naruto changes to many of them, with the village as a whole, Kakashi, Shikamaru, Hinata, Tsunade, Konohamaru, adults like Shikamaru's dad, and of course Sakura.

As for 614/615, while we didn't get much of buildup, hence rushed, we did have her talking about once and for all, standing same ground aka hand holding, so that must be dealt with. Luckily, we did. Now then, what is it that she wants from him? Easy: nothing. Sakura still have few more to deal with Naruto and this is one of them. The most Hinata can get is grouped up with others as in supporting.

Not quite sure what you're disagreeing with - the possibility of Hinata getting more moments in the future regarding her feelings for Naruto?  If so, I'm not saying its likely at all.  But I've thought that Hinata's feelings were done and closed twice now, only to be proven wrong both times.  Heck, look at Karin - she said she was done with Sasuke (which many took to mean as SK being done with) only for her and her feelings for Sasuke to come back later.  I'm not ruling anything out anymore, even if I don't think its all that probable.

 

Yep. I think we're going to see at lest few more NH/SS moments, especially when we don't expect to see them at all! Kishi loves this kind of trolling. It's always HN/SS followed by NS followed by NH/SS and so on..... the tension will grow as we move to the end of the series.

I'm pretty sure that we're going to have a NS moment soon, but I don't think it will be something super big. A lot of things still need to be explained/dealt-with until Kishi reveals the final pairing.

If anything, I think we'll see the girls' dealing with their feelings, rather than interactions between them (though there's likely going to be at least one significant interaction b/t Sasuke and Sakura resolving their bond at the very end no matter what note it ends on).

 

I don't know, I think this is the second to last arc personally (and also that we're close to this arc's end), so Kishi could definitely make some big moves with NaruSaku.

 

Yep, completely agree. Kishi has a pattern going. NH and SS aren't done yet not because of the feelings of the characters are resolved, but because Kishi still has a need to drive up reader suspense. The pairing strife will continue until the very end for suspense purposes, and I'm fully expecting an all-is-lost moment for NS before Kishi resolves it.

These are pretty much my thoughts as well, though I honestly hope that Kishi doesn't drag out the resolutions until the very end.  I'd hope to get some resolution at least before, such as getting Hinata's feelings for Naruto out of the way before the original Team 7 love triangle is tackled/resolved in the final arc.

 

 

SS definitely needs to get resolved, but what more is there for NH?

 

Chapter 615 was literally the climax of Hinata's desire when it comes to Naruto. She was of help to him and holded his hand. She can't go any higher than that. It's not about pretending to be confident, it's that literally there's no more foreshadowing regarding her importances.

 

In the beginning it was all about Hinata wanting to confess, after she confessed it was about Naruto addressing her actions, after he addressed them it was about Hinata wanting to be there for Naruto, after she was there in 615 there was no more build up implied. It ended right there.

 

Now the only thing Hinata wants is to be by his side, which as we say with Shikamaru saying it too, was not meant to be taken romantically. Hinata wants to support Naruto, just like everyone else, and she liking him is her own problem.

I'm kind of this mind set as well, but as I said above, I've already thought twice now that Hinata's feelings had received closure and were done only to be proven wrong.  Logically, I don't think there's anything more to do with her feelings other than show her being happy that Naruto is happy with Sakura at the end, but I have been wrong before so I'm keeping a more open/wary mindset when it comes to Hinata and the pairing subplot in general.

 

i just watched Konoha Gakuen Den (ova based on naruto shippuden ed 2) and saw this. Is this funny to you guys?

why sakura cut her hair in that ed

hinata asks why sakura cut her hair, on behalf of the viewers.

ino then shows these picture to explain

i didnt find it funny   maybe im too defensive of her.

 

and i always thought this is fanart, but lol studio pierrot, shouldnt expect any more of them and their bias.

hinata and naruto on a date

I didn't find the gum in Sakura's hair to be funny, but I wasn't bothered by it either.  I didn't get the vibe that they were trying to cast Sakura in a bad light or anything - they were just trying to give funny and silly moments to pretty much all of the characters (look at Kabuto and Orochimaru, for instance).

 

As for the rest, I actually found that particular special to be much more favorable to NS than NH. 

 

The dialogue and scenes leading to the moment you posted above is all but shouting that Sakura has fallen for Naruto:

Sakura:  "Well, I guess Naruto has his good points too."

Ino:  "So you fell for him?"
Sakura:  "No way!  Why would I fall for a coarse, clueless guy like that?!" (said in classic tsundere fashion, juxtaposed with an image of Naruto cluelessly holding a sweater Sakura made (not just gave, but made) for him, Sakura turned away from him blushing,

NS

and then another image of Naruto and Sakura standing in rain, their eyes hooded, and Sakura asking why he always has to be so reckless)

NS

 

[The NH "date" scene]

Sakura (to Hinata):  "I don't know what you see in him"

Ino: "Whoa! You're jealous!"

 

Sakura's facial expressions (and the dialogue before) fully support Ino's statement that Sakura is jealous:

Images

 

And to add to that, Naruto is not phased at all - no blush, no awkwardness, nothing to suggest he sees her as anything more than a completely platonic friend or little sister.

 

Maybe some people don't like how Sakura is characterized/presented, but there's no question that Sakura is pretty blatantly implied to have romantic feelings for Naruto, and that Naruto has no such feelings for Hinata.

Edited by Paptala, 07 January 2014 - 03:04 AM.

[FireFox]

Thankfully, you didn't thank me only because many of others deserve the credit for putting up this amazing work of theirs.

 

 

Yep no worries after all it's a team efort :) 

 

 

glad to have
another fan . Welcome to H&E.

 

Glad to be here and thank you for the warm welcome :)

 

 

Not quite sure what you're disagreeing with - the possibility of Hinata getting more moments in the future regarding her feelings for Naruto?  If so, I'm not saying its likely at all.  But I've thought that Hinata's feelings were done and closed twice now, only to be proven wrong both times.  Heck, look at Karin - she said she was done with Sasuke (which many took to mean as SK being done with) only for her and her feelings for Sasuke to come back later.  I'm not ruling anything out anymore, even if I don't think its all that probable.

 

If anything, I think we'll see the girls' dealing with their feelings, rather than interactions between them (though there's likely going to be at least one significant interaction b/t Sasuke and Sakura resolving their bond at the very end no matter what note it ends on).

 

I don't know, I think this is the second to last arc personally (and also that we're close to this arc's end), so Kishi could definitely make some big moves with NaruSaku.

 

These are pretty much my thoughts as well, though I honestly hope that Kishi doesn't drag out the resolutions until the very end.  I'd hope to get some resolution at least before, such as getting Hinata's feelings for Naruto out of the way before the original Team 7 love triangle is tackled/resolved in the final arc.

 

I'm kind of this mind set as well, but as I said above, I've already thought twice now that Hinata's feelings had received closure and were done only to be proven wrong.  Logically, I don't think there's anything more to do with her feelings other than show her being happy that Naruto is happy with Sakura at the end, but I have been wrong before so I'm keeping a more open/wary mindset when it comes to Hinata and the pairing subplot in general.

 

 

 

It's understandable why so many think that NH/SS may get a moment  for all the reasons you stated above , but logicaly speaking kishi allredy start degresing Hinata's felings for Naruto that all she wants is to be at his side the same as the rest of the rookies and to stand proud as a shinobi the speech she gave when they where moving toward the battlefiled was all about that all that is left is her final words of that speech to be fulfiled ,we're at the end of this arc and i gues one more after this, why buildup something in the end that it's not gona happen the same for SS she is not trusting him she's finaly seeing the reall image of Sasuke not the one she had in her head,what realy pisses me off is when people say that her love for Sasuke is so strong that it can't be brocken or that what she feels for him is true love and the only thing that makes her happy is Sasuke or that it's that easy for Sasuke to make her happy that the only thing he needs to do is show in front of her​  (it makes me vomit  )

 

About Hinata being happy for Naruto that he's happy i'm not sure if i want to see this because it will make her being the poor victim and a saint   HELL NO to that

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 07 January 2014 - 04:42 AM.

[咲耶姫]

It's understandable why so many think that NH/SS may get a moment  for all the reasons you stated above , but logicaly speaking kishi allredy start degresing Hinata's felings for Naruto that all she wants is to be at his side the same as the rest of the rookies and to stand proud as a shinobi the speech she gave when they where moving toward the battlefiled was all about that all that is left is her final words of that speech to be fulfiled ,we're at the end of this arc and i gues one more after this, why buildup something in the end that it's not gona happen the same for SS she is not trusting him she's finaly seeing the reall image of Sasuke not the one she had in her head,what realy pisses me off is when people say that her love for Sasuke is so strong that it can't be brocken or that what she feels for him is true love and the only thing that makes her happy is Sasuke or that it's that easy for Sasuke to make her happy that the only thing he needs to do is show in front of her​  (it makes me vomit  )

 

About Hinata being happy for Naruto that he's happy i'm not sure if i want to see this because it will make her being the poor victim and a saint   HELL NO to that

About the bolded part, I wouldn't be upset by that if I were you, you know, they are just hurting themeselves by thinking like that. In fact, it proves that they misunterpret what the characters really are in the canon story. When you see those kind of statements, it makes you wonder if they are not just reading fanfictions and stick the fanfiction  characters to the real Sasuke or Sakura. 

Sakura is the only one who have showed to have feelings for another character than her love interest, but still, they say her love is the strongest and that Naruto is the one who is falling for Hinata....

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

My ideal ending for Hinata is to have her realize on her own Naruto has no feelings for him and that in the end he'll be in a relationship with Sakura, not her. I just want Hinata to stand on her two feet without using Naruto as a crutch, she has a lot of potential. All we really need is one panel where it shows her observing a NaruSaku moment and having Hinata think that she'll be happy for them and she'll try to be a strong kunoichi to lead her Clan. She'll probably have a sad smile, but I honestly think that scenario is the full closure on Hinata's character and her development. I'm not too fond of Naruto rejecting her. Not just 'cause I don't want the NaruHina fans to hate him forever, but I feel like he's not the type of character with her personality that would allow him to say something like that to her so easily. He's too nice and I don't think he'll want to hurt Hinata's feelings.  And really, Hinata figuring it out by herself instead of having to be rejected gives a better light to her character IMO. 

 

As for Sakura's love for Sasuke, I'm conflicted over the depth of it's sincerity. I can't call it crush since her feelings have lasted this long (and even her constant crying in Part I), but I don't see it as true love the way I view her feelings for Naruto. Sakura's main issue is that her love was idealistic and blind, she didn't know too much of Sasuke's flaws and to some extent was always enamored with him. She never really understood him either, Sasuke pushed her out too much so she never got the chance to. I'm not saying she didn't fall in love with him and truly cared for him, but the root of her love seems ignorant to me. It's nice that Sakura wanted to "fix" him, but she continually failed at that IMO because she didn't get him. And I also strongly disagree with the idea that Sakura "thinks Sasuke is happiness". T7 is her happiness true, but her love by itself never makes her happy. She's even acknowledged that Sasuke just causes her pain and makes her miserable in her confession to Naruto.

 

The ironic thing to me is that Sakura told Sasuke that without him she's alone. I think there is some form of truth to this on a T7 level, their team getting fragmented hurt her as much as Naruto. But it seems to me that Sakura common source of happiness is Naruto and she knows this. She does. It's just hard for her to fully overcome the image she cherished so much when she was younger, you can at least give her points for trying. The Sasuke she wanted to "fix" and "change". That's the childish part of her she's still struggling to outgrow IMO.

 

My problem with SS and Sakura's character is that she's not the same Sakura. She's changed since then and she seems to want different things now. She isn't fixated on Sasuke loving her anymore, she's outgrown that. IMO, Sakura cares for Sasuke as much as she ever did. There's no question. But I do not think she's that deeply in love with him anymore. Romantic feelings, sure. But it's slowly fading by Sasuke's estrangement, Naruto's influence on her, and Sakura's own maturity. I really do not think Sakura loves Sasuke as much as she thinks she does, it's just her still clinging to the past on some level/ being somewhat resistant to change despite how much she thinks with her head now. It's one of the last hurdles of her character development. That's why everything's so complicated.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 07 January 2014 - 05:13 AM.

[oksus]

 
As for the rest, I actually found that particular special to be much more favorable to NS than NH. 
 
The dialogue and scenes leading to the moment you posted above is all but shouting that Sakura has fallen for Naruto:
Sakura:  "Well, I guess Naruto has his good points too."
Ino:  "So you fell for him?"
Sakura:  "No way!  Why would I fall for a coarse, clueless guy like that?!" (said in classic tsundere fashion, juxtaposed with an image of Naruto cluelessly holding a sweater Sakura made (not just gave, but made) for him, Sakura turned away from him blushing,

NS

and then another image of Naruto and Sakura standing in rain, their eyes hooded, and Sakura asking why he always has to be so reckless)

NS

 
[The NH "date" scene]
Sakura (to Hinata):  "I don't know what you see in him"
Ino: "Whoa! You're jealous!"
 
Sakura's facial expressions (and the dialogue before) fully support Ino's statement that Sakura is jealous:

Images

 
And to add to that, Naruto is not phased at all - no blush, no awkwardness, nothing to suggest he sees her as anything more than a completely platonic friend or little sister.
 
Maybe some people don't like how Sakura is characterized/presented, but there's no question that Sakura is pretty blatantly implied to have romantic feelings for Naruto, and that Naruto has no such feelings for Hinata.

I never noticed all those reactions from Sakura and lack of reactions from Naruto.
Now that you pointed it out it made me smile a little, it's a pretty cute moment for NS :)

Edited by oksus, 07 January 2014 - 05:41 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Not quite sure what you're disagreeing with - the possibility of Hinata getting more moments in the future regarding her feelings for Naruto?  If so, I'm not saying its likely at all.  But I've thought that Hinata's feelings were done and closed twice now, only to be proven wrong both times.  Heck, look at Karin - she said she was done with Sasuke (which many took to mean as SK being done with) only for her and her feelings for Sasuke to come back later.  I'm not ruling anything out anymore, even if I don't think its all that probable.

 

If anything, I think we'll see the girls' dealing with their feelings, rather than interactions between them (though there's likely going to be at least one significant interaction b/t Sasuke and Sakura resolving their bond at the very end no matter what note it ends on).

 

I don't know, I think this is the second to last arc personally (and also that we're close to this arc's end), so Kishi could definitely make some big moves with NaruSaku.

 

These are pretty much my thoughts as well, though I honestly hope that Kishi doesn't drag out the resolutions until the very end.  I'd hope to get some resolution at least before, such as getting Hinata's feelings for Naruto out of the way before the original Team 7 love triangle is tackled/resolved in the final arc.

 

I'm kind of this mind set as well, but as I said above, I've already thought twice now that Hinata's feelings had received closure and were done only to be proven wrong.  Logically, I don't think there's anything more to do with her feelings other than show her being happy that Naruto is happy with Sakura at the end, but I have been wrong before so I'm keeping a more open/wary mindset when it comes to Hinata and the pairing subplot in general.

 

I didn't find the gum in Sakura's hair to be funny, but I wasn't bothered by it either.  I didn't get the vibe that they were trying to cast Sakura in a bad light or anything - they were just trying to give funny and silly moments to pretty much all of the characters (look at Kabuto and Orochimaru, for instance).

 

As for the rest, I actually found that particular special to be much more favorable to NS than NH. 

 

The dialogue and scenes leading to the moment you posted above is all but shouting that Sakura has fallen for Naruto:

Sakura:  "Well, I guess Naruto has his good points too."

Ino:  "So you fell for him?"
Sakura:  "No way!  Why would I fall for a coarse, clueless guy like that?!" (said in classic tsundere fashion, juxtaposed with an image of Naruto cluelessly holding a sweater Sakura made (not just gave, but made) for him, Sakura turned away from him blushing,

NS

and then another image of Naruto and Sakura standing in rain, their eyes hooded, and Sakura asking why he always has to be so reckless)

NS

 

[The NH "date" scene]

Sakura (to Hinata):  "I don't know what you see in him"

Ino: "Whoa! You're jealous!"

 

Sakura's facial expressions (and the dialogue before) fully support Ino's statement that Sakura is jealous:

Images

 

And to add to that, Naruto is not phased at all - no blush, no awkwardness, nothing to suggest he sees her as anything more than a completely platonic friend or little sister.

 

Maybe some people don't like how Sakura is characterized/presented, but there's no question that Sakura is pretty blatantly implied to have romantic feelings for Naruto, and that Naruto has no such feelings for Hinata.

Actually, when I look back, I made a mistake on the disagreement because well, this time I read it clearly. That said I'm not talking about the feelings, rather what makes you put in that position. Not you, the character. Hinata got nothing to fuel anymore because the tank is full. Sakura got more left in her. Take Gaara for example. Why you think he's getting focus now? Because he has to get a closure with Shukaku, who once seen as a terrible curse to Gaara (fall asleep and I will take over). This is their closure if not development that can finally close the deal between each other, especially now he's back in Bijuus. Kishi is closing many moments for side characters before he never gets another chance.

 

When it comes to main character, they have to deal with the realistic view such as Kakashi seeing Obito as the villain that lost his way, Sasuke's growing anger on Naruto's progression, and so on. We just got Sakura's reaction, who waited for Team 7 to form together again, and it isn't good at all. Looking back, I noticed that she wanted Team 7 to come back together, but now, she doesn't even know. This moment is like how other moments in other series do in order to see what would happen for real, such as finally talking to your crush, only to realize you and her have nothing in common, your friends coming back to "rescue" you and your so-called enemy, only to find out that you don't want to be rescued because you and your "enemy" are lovers now (this is usually in cartoon for kids, so adults don't have to think too much such as "how selfish"), and so on. Case in point, Sakura is the tester and she's in a negative side.

 

So to bring all to this one point, you got to have a reason to get your development on or else you won't get any important screentime. This is why I don't see Hinata to be like a vocal point anymore or even get something to talk about. Why you think her line only come across the same as all other K9? Because really, there's nothing more. The last two moments with her and Naruto were needed since well, how else Hinata can finally develop by telling Naruto her reason why he means a lot. Hand-holding has to be dealt with or you really want that to turn into a romance side. Remember, if that moment never happened, we will be out of our seats and be scared that she can get it as the last laugh person. Now, it all going to Sakura. In what arc didn't end with Naruto and Sakura when they are there frequently (yes, that means Immortal Arc doesn't count)?

 

Well done on nailing the school special part. Honestly, that type of story will be way easier to tell who's ending who. Go figure.

[FireFox]

About the bolded part, I wouldn't be upset by that if I were you, you know, they are just hurting themeselves by thinking like that. In fact, it proves that they misunterpret what the characters really are in the canon story. When you see those kind of statements, it makes you wonder if they are not just reading fanfictions and stick the fanfiction  characters to the real Sasuke or Sakura. 

Sakura is the only one who have showed to have feelings for another character than her love interest, but still, they say her love is the strongest and that Naruto is the one who is falling for Hinata....

 

Yeah you're right about that it's just that when ever i see a comment on their side like: but she filled his lonely exsistence or Sasuke always looks and refers to Sakura first and ignores everyone else at this point i don't know how whether to take there comment seriously(and ask my self maybe they have a point) ,laugh at them or cry but you are probably right i shouldn't bother with them.

 

My ideal ending for Hinata is to have her realize on her own Naruto has no feelings for him and that in the end he'll be in a relationship with Sakura, not her. I just want Hinata to stand on her two feet without using Naruto as a crutch, she has a lot of potential. All we really need is one panel where it shows her observing a NaruSaku moment and having Hinata think that she'll be happy for them and she'll try to be a strong kunoichi to lead her Clan. She'll probably have a sad smile, but I honestly think that scenario is the full closure on Hinata's character and her development. I'm not too fond of Naruto rejecting her. Not just 'cause I don't want the NaruHina fans to hate him forever, but I feel like he's not the type of character with her personality that would allow him to say something like that to her so easily. He's too nice and I don't think he'll want to hurt Hinata's feelings.  And really, Hinata figuring it out by herself instead of having to be rejected gives a better light to her character IMO. 

 

As for Sakura's love for Sasuke, I'm conflicted over the depth of it's sincerity. I can't call it crush since her feelings have lasted this long (and even her constant crying in Part I), but I don't see it as true love the way I view her feelings for Naruto. Sakura's main issue is that her love was idealistic and blind, she didn't know too much of Sasuke's flaws and to some extent was always enamored with him. She never really understood him either, Sasuke pushed her out too much so she never got the chance to. I'm not saying she didn't fall in love with him and truly cared for him, but the root of her love seems ignorant to me. It's nice that Sakura wanted to "fix" him, but she continually failed at that IMO because she didn't get him. And I also strongly disagree with the idea that Sakura "thinks Sasuke is happiness". T7 is her happiness true, but her love by itself never makes her happy. She's even acknowledged that Sasuke just causes her pain and makes her miserable in her confession to Naruto.

 

The ironic thing to me is that Sakura told Sasuke that without him she's alone. I think there is some form of truth to this on a T7 level, their team getting fragmented hurt her as much as Naruto. But it seems to me that Sakura common source of happiness is Naruto and she knows this. She does. It's just hard for her to fully overcome the image she cherished so much when she was younger, you can at least give her points for trying. The Sasuke she wanted to "fix" and "change". That's the childish part of her she's still struggling to outgrow IMO.

 

My problem with SS and Sakura's character is that she's not the same Sakura. She's changed since then and she seems to want different things now. She isn't fixated on Sasuke loving her anymore, she's outgrown that. IMO, Sakura cares for Sasuke as much as she ever did. There's no question. But I do not think she's that deeply in love with him anymore. Romantic feelings, sure. But it's slowly fading by Sasuke's estrangement, Naruto's influence on her, and Sakura's own maturity. I really do not think Sakura loves Sasuke as much as she thinks she does, it's just her still clinging to the past on some level/ being somewhat resistant to change despite how much she thinks with her head now. It's one of the last hurdles of her character development. That's why everything's so complicated.

 

 I still think her "love" for him is idealistic and blind she has a total misunderstanding of who he is as a person(and she's learning about it now by observing him up close) you only need to look at ch 3 and you will find how she views him she thinks that he is this super caring and lovely guy who looks her with warm eyes and can look into her soul (we all know who that guy is) the only thing that change is from that moment is that she learned that he's also a guy who has his own deep issues . I also think the reason why Sakura thought that Sasuke  never speaks to her ignore her is because that little comment she made about Naruto and i think she blamed herself for that but of course Sasuke said it doesn't matter and her faith that Sasuke may loves me is restored . I hope i make my self clear about the rest i agree.    

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 07 January 2014 - 06:52 AM.

[TacticalFox88]

The best way this can end is obviously NaruSaku happens in the most blatant way possible with zero room for misinterpretation. 

[redragon88]

Sakura's facial expressions (and the dialogue before) fully support Ino's statement that Sakura is jealous:

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And to add to that, Naruto is not phased at all - no blush, no awkwardness, nothing to suggest he sees her as anything more than a completely platonic friend or little sister.

 

Maybe some people don't like how Sakura is characterized/presented, but there's no question that Sakura is pretty blatantly implied to have romantic feelings for Naruto, and that Naruto has no such feelings for Hinata.

 

Naruto only wants to eat his fish. Never try to come between a man and his fish. That's the rule.

 

I really do love how Sakura gets all jelly and is teased about it in this OVA. As much as Studio Pierrot are Hinata fans they are conscious that the real love story is supposed to be centered around Naruto and Sakura, this scene in the OVA clearly shows were they stand.