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#12761 James S Cassidy

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 09:15 PM


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:10 PM

Might as well just release the damn movie now... why the kitten not, I mean we already know exactly how the movie goes. Naruto's hanging with friends, Hinata hides in the shadows, lord knows what Sakura and Hinata are interacting for having never been good friends, Hinata gets attacked, somehow Naruto is aware of this, Sasuke's in the Village because he somehow knows Naruto's gone, Hinata's sister gets kidnapped cause of generic Kaguya villain is blind as s**t, NaruHina non-sense, random teams members join Naruto's and Hinata's quest because reasons, more NaruHina, Hinata and Naruto memories, villain defeated by the power of love, NaruHina, and end with Hinata. 


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:15 PM

Might as well just release the damn movie now... why the kitten not, I mean we already know exactly how the movie goes. Naruto's hanging with friends, Hinata hides in the shadows, lord knows what Sakura and Hinata are interacting for having never been good friends, Hinata gets attacked, somehow Naruto is aware of this, Sasuke's in the Village because he somehow knows Naruto's gone, Hinata's sister gets kidnapped cause of generic Kaguya villain is blind as s**t, NaruHina non-sense, random teams members join Naruto's and Hinata's quest because reasons, more NaruHina, Hinata and Naruto memories, villain defeated by the power of love, NaruHina, and end with Hinata.


Don't forget nauseating SasuSaku moments.

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:16 PM

Might as well just release the damn movie now... why the kitten not, I mean we already know exactly how the movie goes. Naruto's hanging with friends, Hinata hides in the shadows, lord knows what Sakura and Hinata are interacting for having never been good friends, Hinata gets attacked, somehow Naruto is aware of this, Sasuke's in the Village because he somehow knows Naruto's gone, Hinata's sister gets kidnapped cause of generic Kaguya villain is blind as s**t, NaruHina non-sense, random teams members join Naruto's and Hinata's quest because reasons, more NaruHina, Hinata and Naruto memories, villain defeated by the power of love, NaruHina, and end with Hinata. 

99% of this will happend.

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:19 PM

I don't have the words to describe how bad this movie is going to be.


 


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:23 PM

I'm still trying to get over Burito calling Ino his aunt. I get that its a common Japanese suffix/cultural thing..but it bothers me because it feels like Hinata is taking Sakura's place in INO'S life as well.

Do not want.  :hm:


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:23 PM

Don't forget nauseating SasuSaku moments.

Please... this is Hinata's movie, we don't have time for Sakura non-sense  :zaru:


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:24 PM

Please... this is Hinata's movie, we don't have time for Sakura non-sense  :zaru:

Yep, you're absolutely right Hinata is the new heroine after all. :down:


Edited by RedFaction, 20 November 2014 - 10:25 PM.

 


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:25 PM

Please... this is Hinata's movie, we don't have time for logic   :zaru:

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:27 PM

Lol I come back a week later and more dumb stuff comes out of kishi.



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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:27 PM

Please... this is Hinata's movie, we don't have time for Sakura non-sense  :zaru:


Super stoked for the Kushina parallels. Hinata will leave strands from the red scarf for Naruto to follow to save her!!!

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:28 PM

Yep, you're absolutely right Hinata is the new heroine after all. :down:

She was apart of Team 7 all along, how could we miss that  :zaru:

 

Fixed.

While you are correct, the fix wasn't necessary for the post I was talking about  :fu:


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:35 PM

I'm still trying to get over Burito calling Ino his aunt. I get that its a common Japanese suffix/cultural thing..but it bothers me because it feels like Hinata is taking Sakura's place in INO'S life as well.

When you take their characters into consideration, it's very likely Sakura and Ino aren't friends anymore. Because Sasuke.



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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:38 PM

When you take their characters into consideration, it's very likely Sakura and Ino aren't friends anymore. Because Sasuke.


Poor ino, asuma told her to never lose in love against sakura and ultimately she ended up with a fake sasuke (sorry sai) and an alien for a son

Edited by Nar123, 20 November 2014 - 10:39 PM.

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:42 PM

Poor ino, asuma told her to never lose in love against sakura and ultimately she ended up with a fake sasuke (sorry sai) and an alien for a son


She must be a terrible woman.

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:45 PM

I'm still trying to get over Burito calling Ino his aunt. I get that its a common Japanese suffix/cultural thing..but it bothers me because it feels like Hinata is taking Sakura's place in INO'S life as well.

Do not want.  :hm:

 

That was Shikadai NOT Bolt/Boruto.


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:46 PM

To never compromise NS development

 

To stay my tongue in the  writing  of Kishimoto.

 

I was a damn fool.

 


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:47 PM

 

That was Shikadai NOT Bolt/Boruto.

:facepalm:  Correct. 


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:54 PM

When you take their characters into consideration, it's very likely Sakura and Ino aren't friends anymore. Because Sasuke.

They've never been friends as far as l'm concerned, their only interaction in part 2 was Sakura rejoicing at the prospectof Ino being called ugly.

 

That's it. That's the extent of the portrayal of their relationship after that awful fight for Sauce's kitten in part 1. That's the heroine and her "best friend" dynamic in a 700 chapters long narrative.

 

You really don't need pairings to realize Kishimoto is a PoS fraud.



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Posted 20 November 2014 - 10:54 PM

The degradation of the titular character's goals and interests are astounding. Never before have I read a piece of fiction where the main character was just thrown to the wayside in the last chapter, epilogue, and this farce of a movie. The facts are that it doesn't matter when Kishimoto decided on the final pairings. If there was some sort of progression towards the endgame pairings. The story would have been MUCH MORE digestible and the ending would have made sense. The red herrings that Kishi gave us are insulting to the characters he created and the relationships they had, Jiraiya/Tsunade, Obito/Rin, and most importantly Minato/Kushina. 

 

The travesty of this is that the writer of a series would go to extreme lengths to keep the fans guessing. An old friend of mine who happened to get in to Naruto the same time as me has a degree in English with a specialization in creative writing. He's currently aiming for a PhD in English. We happened to run into each other and caught up, one of our common interest were this manga and he too was shocked with the ending and he's not even a shipper at all He broached several topics, but one of the main ones we discussed was the artwork. I don't know how much depicting literal foreshadowing plays in Japanese culture but showing mirror panels EVERYWHERE would give an educated individual such as him a great sense where the story was headed...... NOPE. 

 

Another issue he had was with the whole "pale love" Naruto had for Sakura. He heavily criticized Kishi for showing the CPR scene. He said, and I quote, "The literal symbolicism of a girl holding a boy's heart in her hands means that his heart is devoted to her, the fact that she beats it for him just compounds that fact that she is his reason for living." While I thought that was pretty strong a statement I couldn't really deny it.

 

The artwork of this manga and the anime are completely counter intuitive to what Kishi wrote and/or planned. We both concluded that Kishi's writing skills should be called into question and any future works should be looked at with a grain of salt. A self respecting writer who should care for his fans has a duty to write a clear concise story that flows well so that his fans understand the story first and foremost. 

 

We also both agreed that if Kishi wasn't good at writing romance, he should have never delved so deep into it in the first place. Fact is he couldn't conclude the love triangle properly withing 700 chapters and 15 years of writing this manga. Using a movie to show how the romance developed for the MAIN CHARACTER further exacerbates this thought. Even now, we are getting hints that they are embarrassed drawing these "romantic scenes". Kishimoto and his team bit off more than they could chew and are now backtracking like nobody's business in order to make this all seem plausible. 

 

The Naruto fandom will probably only get a true answer of what really went through Kishimoto's head well after Part 3 has ended. Many writers such as JK Rowling, and Akira Toriyama have done so, explaining what they might have done differently or if they were indeed pressured to change the story to cater to the masses.






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