Edited by Kster95, 06 January 2014 - 08:13 AM.

The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread
#12741
Posted 06 January 2014 - 08:11 AM
#12742
Posted 06 January 2014 - 08:13 AM
it's just a fun prediction, and even if it doesn't happen like what I hope/think, than it's okay.
basically there's so many possibilities for the next chapter.
#12743
Posted 06 January 2014 - 09:31 AM
So I was looking at some Naruhina fanart(dont ask me why:p) but in every one I saw it was a different Hinata. Like her peraonality is completely changed, so NH think she is somehow going to become this outgoing person if she gets with Naruto. When in reality that wont happen and she will still be the same shy Hinata. Which only shows that her personality is not right for Naruto and someone like Sakura's is.
Well, they are fanarts, so I guess I shouldn't review it seriously. That said yeah I know what you mean. I guess we have to bend a rule or two to make it work.
it's just a fun prediction, and even if it doesn't happen like what I hope/think, than it's okay.
basically there's so many possibilities for the next chapter.
Yeah, I understand. Still, I like to not to think of it to actually get the other result. It has been like this for a while to many, especially to me. Everytime I predict, it goes almost 180 on me. So yeah, I'm not going to doom you guys.
#12744
Posted 06 January 2014 - 09:55 AM
She doesn't say "Sasuke you saved me!" She just say "Sasuke!" when he appeared next to her after he saved her, because she's surprised, and then Naruto arrived and said that he helped too and she replied that he had to focused on bigger matter. She hasn't show any positiv feelings since the murder attempt. Those feelings have obviously change since the murder attempt whereas you said in the first post that they havn't change a bit.
But you're right in your last post, she still have feelings for him, but they are decreasing more in each chpter she appear to think of Sasuke.
i'm going to disagree with you on this part, her feelings for Sasuke are still there sicne she said it on the lover ninja however her approach towards Sasuke and her disposition changed considerably, she loved him before and trusted on him, she still loves him but she's intelligent enough to distinguish that Sasuke is an enemy and that he cannot be trusted and he tried to kill her she's not like Ino or Karin.
That opened the path for her to move and the lover ninja scene was like a reality shock why keep loving someome who's evil and etc...
In fact it's awaiting for a move to change.
Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 06 January 2014 - 09:56 AM.

#12745
Posted 06 January 2014 - 10:10 AM
i'm going to disagree with you on this part, her feelings for Sasuke are still there sicne she said it on the lover ninja however her approach towards Sasuke and her disposition changed considerably, she loved him before and trusted on him, she still loves him but she's intelligent enough to distinguish that Sasuke is an enemy and that he cannot be trusted and he tried to kill her she's not like Ino or Karin.
That opened the path for her to move and the lover ninja scene was like a reality shock why keep loving someome who's evil and etc...
In fact it's awaiting for a move to change.
I didn't say they weren't there anymore, I say they had changed.
#12746
Posted 06 January 2014 - 10:26 AM
I didn't say they weren't there anymore, I say they had changed.
My bad, it's just that i really dont know about this part of Sakura's feelings.
I think probably is still strong as before but she's kind of like forcing herself to stop loving him.
I would say fighting off against those feelings.

#12747
Posted 06 January 2014 - 10:44 AM
My bad, it's just that i really dont know about this part of Sakura's feelings.
I think probably is still strong as before but she's kind of like forcing herself to stop loving him.
I would say fighting off against those feelings.
Funny,I think on the contrary, that she's, unconsciously, focing herself to keep loving him (maybe because she's used to it since her childhood, other than that I don't see why), but in reality her feelings are decreasing and I think that chapter 635 is perfectly describing that situation.
#12748
Posted 06 January 2014 - 11:21 AM
I think Kishi keeps Sakura's feelings for Sasuke alive for suspense. He even made a cliffhanger about it once. And I think it actually has a vital role in the story, unlike NH. I also believe he plans to save the conclusion to the last arc, team 7 arc.
Sakura should be over Sasuke by now, and not because of the murder attempt. Mainly because I wonder how she kept that fire alive when she didn't see him for two years and now he feels like a stranger to her.
I think Sakura's reaction to the murder attempt was excellent. Her thoughts about him changed forever, and she will never look at him the same way. But changing her feelings simply because he's bad now would be unrealistic. She can't break up with her feelings, "I'm not going to be in love with you anymore!". Wouldn't that sound weird? She's also remained very rational about it, not getting angry(he's not worth it), but getting more alert and cautious. She didn't forgive him, like some people say.
Edited by sushi., 06 January 2014 - 11:22 AM.
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#12749
Posted 06 January 2014 - 11:50 AM
ohh ok i think i oversaid it . >▂< and yes for ur question the lover nin scene.She doesn't say "Sasuke you saved me!" She just say "Sasuke!" when he appeared next to her after he saved her, because she's surprised, and then Naruto arrived and said that he helped too and she replied that he had to focused on bigger matter. She hasn't show any positiv feelings since the murder attempt. Those feelings have obviously change since the murder attempt whereas you said in the first post that they havn't change a bit.
But you're right in your last post, she still have feelings for him, but they are decreasing more in each chpter she appear to think of Sasuke.
i also thought thatI think Kishi keeps Sakura's feelings for Sasuke alive for suspense. He even made a cliffhanger about it once. And I think it actually has a vital role in the story, unlike NH. I also believe he plans to save the conclusion to the last arc, team 7 arc.
Sakura should be over Sasuke by now, and not because of the murder attempt. Mainly because I wonder how she kept that fire alive when she didn't see him for two years and now he feels like a stranger to her.
I think Sakura's reaction to the murder attempt was excellent. Her thoughts about him changed forever, and she will never look at him the same way. But changing her feelings simply because he's bad now would be unrealistic. She can't break up with her feelings, "I'm not going to be in love with you anymore!". Wouldn't that sound weird? She's also remained very rational about it, not getting angry(he's not worth it), but getting more alert and cautious. She didn't forgive him, like some people say.
Edited by narulsaku, 06 January 2014 - 11:54 AM.

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#12750
Posted 06 January 2014 - 11:55 AM
Funny,I think on the contrary, that she's, unconsciously, focing herself to keep loving him (maybe because she's used to it since her childhood, other than that I don't see why), but in reality her feelings are decreasing and I think that chapter 635 is perfectly describing that situation.
She leaves that impression but it's due that she acknowledge her feelings for Sasuke as love with a reason, she was very happy around him on part 1, which even Naruto states however she wasnt that happy during part 2 with the exception of a few moments where Naruto cheers her up or she sees him happy.
Her standing towards Sasuke decreased but i think her feelings are still there until she finds/acknowledges another source of happiness, which is where Naruto enters on the story.
Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 06 January 2014 - 11:59 AM.

#12751
Posted 06 January 2014 - 02:06 PM
So yesterday I re-watched the NARUTO x Uniqlo OVA, and I'm pretty sure that Kishi might pull something similar.
Chances we'll get Sakura holding Naruto's body like she did in the OVA are very low, since Alliance has been evacuated to safer place; and we don't need a remake of famous Pain Arc scenario. But the fact that she's aware of what's gonna happen to a jinchūriki once their tailed beast is extracted might work as a good trigger to reveal her hidden heart. I'm only sure about one thing, though: next chapter(s) will only reinforce and add to NS development.
#12752
Posted 06 January 2014 - 03:18 PM
The last chapter had a lot of hidden NS in it with the hidden heart, I swear! So many undertones.
#12753
Posted 06 January 2014 - 03:22 PM
The last chapter had a lot of hidden NS in it with the hidden heart, I swear! So many undertones.
can you give several examples?
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#12754
Posted 06 January 2014 - 04:52 PM
how come nobody ever says the guys are useless. people like lee kiba or shino wtf. people keep harping on girls being useless, most commonly using tenten as a joke, or sakura, and that she is just a tsunade clone. lee is a guy clone too! im so pissed by this double standard.
Ugh, believe me I know what you mean. It makes me so mad sometimes, the way female characters have to take all the flak, there's definitely a very deeply ingrained and often ignored sexism in fandom. Female characters who make mistakes or express human emotion, like doubt, sadness, confusion, or anger are so often ridiculed for it, being labeled as weak, useless or worse. I think female characters are often held to an unfair and overly harsh standard on what they should be and how they should act, in a way that male characters are not, simply on the principle of gender.
#12755
Posted 06 January 2014 - 05:22 PM
Edited by Superman333, 06 January 2014 - 05:25 PM.

#12756
Posted 06 January 2014 - 05:31 PM
how come nobody ever says the guys are useless. people like lee kiba or shino wtf. people keep harping on girls being useless, most commonly using tenten as a joke, or sakura, and that she is just a tsunade clone. lee is a guy clone too! im so pissed by this double standard.
It's because Sakura is a main character. I understand the need to set her standard higher.
No one is useless, however. If you compare it to a chess game, they are just inactive pieces. It's not their fault! They're not the player, Kishi is and he controls their every move. Aren't you only useless when incabable of work? Sakura and the rookies are very capable. Remember when Sakura took more chibi-bijuus than the rest combined? Or when Lee kicked Madara in half? Kishi throws us a bone once in a while, so that we just for a moment forget the problem. Those mini-action scenes aren't enough. Of couse the plot is slow and dull if only a few gets to run it, but I'm excited to see whose turn it is now that the main star is out of action.
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#12757
Posted 06 January 2014 - 05:32 PM
Naruto's love is true genuine love , Sakura-Chan's love is n't its more like a infatuation imo . Thats why her feelings is decreasing because it isn't true love . Naruto's love is true it never wavers and only gets stronger no matter what he will love Sakura-chan for life .
Hm, I don't really see it that way. Sakura definitely started out with a childish, shallow crush, but her feelings did grow and began to mature during part one and she came to truly care about Sasuke, not just the image she had of him in her head. Personally, I think that's why it's hard for her to let go, she cares about him, but she's having trouble figuring out how to define it.
#12758
Posted 06 January 2014 - 05:39 PM
Hm, I don't really see it that way. Sakura definitely started out with a childish, shallow crush, but her feelings did grow and began to mature during part one and she came to truly care about Sasuke, not just the image she had of him in her head. Personally, I think that's why it's hard for her to let go, she cares about him, but she's having trouble figuring out how to define it.
She cares about him don't get me wrong . But I wouldn't call it true love if it was true love her feelings wouldn't decrease. She is more infatuated than genuinely loving him . To me that showed when she had the flashbacks right before Sasuke was going to kill her . And besides if she truly loves him she would accept him for a rogue nin imo .
Edited by Superman333, 06 January 2014 - 05:40 PM.

#12759
Posted 06 January 2014 - 05:48 PM
It's because Sakura is a main character. I understand the need to set her standard higher.
No one is useless, however. If you compare it to a chess game, they are just inactive pieces. It's not their fault! They're not the player, Kishi is and he controls their every move. Aren't you only useless when incabable of work? Sakura and the rookies are very capable. Remember when Sakura took more chibi-bijuus than the rest combined? Or when Lee kicked Madara in half? Kishi throws us a bone once in a while, so that we just for a moment forget the problem. Those mini-action scenes aren't enough.
Of couse the plot is slow and dull if only a few gets to run it, but I'm excited to see whose turn it is now that the main star is out of action.
no i was talking about gender inequality(i know i sound like a hardcore feminist right here xD) but u dont really see people using kiba for a joke and plenty of people joke on tenten. i only use sakura because 'tsunade clone' is overused too and u dont see ppl saying lee is a 'guy clone'.
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#12760
Posted 06 January 2014 - 05:56 PM
She cares about him don't get me wrong . But I wouldn't call it true love if it was true love her feelings wouldn't decrease. She is more infatuated than genuinely loving him . To me that showed when she had the flashbacks right before Sasuke was going to kill her . And besides if she truly loves him she would accept him for a rogue nin imo .
It might have started with infatuation, but not anymore. Infatuation is characterized with ignorance and blind admiration. Sakura knows perfectly well that he is not the man she can share her life with. I don't even think she wants to.
I just think Kishi puts her feelings on hold, or bring them up every 100th chapter so he can conclude them in the end. Because it is one of the main team 7 dynamics. Besides, pairings don't get together until the end. Once a pairing is canon, their story is over and apparently it is not fun anymore.
However, NS has potential to be an exception because the antagonists like Orochimaru and Sasuke will keep them busy. Even if there is an upcoming confession soon after the war, Naruto will rush off to save the world again. I actually hope she(+Kakashi and Sai) goes with him instead of staying home like Tsunade did. Or maybe she goes after him.
no i was talking about gender inequality(i know i sound like a hardcore feminist right here xD) but u dont really see people using kiba for a joke and plenty of people joke on tenten. i only use sakura because 'tsunade clone' is overused too and u dont see ppl saying lee is a 'guy clone'.
I know what you were trying to say, but this is what I would've said if I were to argue against such claims.
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