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Posted 17 March 2013 - 10:47 AM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Mar 17 2013, 07:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just read 614+615 again, and i noticed Naruto doing some kinda OOC things.



Here Hinata says "we'll protect you" but Naruto says "Hinata".



Naruto says "It's because you've been by my side" - which.... isn't even true really

There are some misstranslations but the real is that Naruto thanked both Hinata and Neji with an focus on Neji, i dont see this as an OOC, about we'll protect you, Naruto was surprised that Hinata would try to protect him.
What went OOC is Naruto wavering nothing else more, since he said that many people was counting on him and he still had to learn again the same lesson that he learned before.
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:03 AM

QUOTE (FoolishYoungling @ Mar 17 2013, 05:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good. Only one thing Minato needed to comment on about Kushina. That insecurity parallel. a_thumbs.gif

Foolish younglin'...dat sakura profile pic of yours....its ssooo cute!!!

Edit:Ok so my browser can translat eenglish stuff to japanese, so i was searching some japanese stuff about sakura and check this out:-Tsundere heroine database. Carefully introduce the tsundere heroine from anime and comics.

There is a popular attraction tsundere character that appeared in and Sakura Haruno - the original manga is very popular, as well as work has been animated film adaptation ยท "NARUTO-Naruto".

In Kunoichi ninja-woman team of Hatake Kakashi, Sakura Haruno heroine is a good girl and excellent performance, the memorization.
In the first part of the 12-13 years old, in the second part at the age of 15, age, personality, vigorous nonsense words, love is said to be "I love life forever."

Also, initially the team Kakashi Hatake same, of which we have a longing strong Sasuke, from the fact that in front of Sasuke plays a girl ladylike us,
he could say and type queen-high-handed and say tsundere type no.

Naruto is the hero against, which had been in contact with cold bullish attitude pungent, As the story goes, you can feel the tenderness,
change of heart as it is being born.

Appearance, the series was originally Long Hair, pushed into a corner by an incident, is grab the hair, cut with a kunai escape themselves, then became a short hair.
He is full of charm cherryそんtsundere, enjoy in the future.
And check this out http://detail.chiebu...il/q12100768007 its nice to know that the japanese fandom thinks about sakura in a positive way smile.gif (here's the translation:Resolved Q & A


I like this heroine's No. 1 Suramudan Haruko Akagi sakura NARUTO "Haruno? ... Who?
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I like this heroine's No. 1? Who? "NARUTO Sakura Haruno Haruko Akagi slam dunk " "Amagi Zetman lobule Ganz Tae Kojima "





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It is cherry NARUTO!

I know its not much..but ahh what the heck...btw guys whens the next popularity poll? Im placing my bets that sakura's gonna pound hinata to the ground! on second thought, i hope hinata isn't even in the top ten! *praying*

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 12:10 PM

go on laugh at me cuz i dont know what is OOC.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 12:17 PM

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go on laugh at me cuz i dont know what is OOC.

It means "out of character" tongue.gif

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 01:21 PM

That one line, "You've been by my side the whole time," is probably what set the insane fans into overdrive aside from the hand holding.

One thing fans forget again and again, is context. This always been at my side line, Naruto is referring to the current situation, as in she was by him the whole time since the ninja alliance arrived. Naruto was NOT referring to the whole series, if anything it was team 7 by his side the whole time, she hardly came in. Basically because Hinata being the copy leech as her development lead her, she basically served as a "storage" of Naruto's will and now just gave it back.

What about the hand holding? It could have been done for 3 simple actions separately or all together (most likely): 1. to thank her, 2. consulate her over Neji, 3. Kurama's chakra transfer was ready, who better to be the guinea pig?

The hand holding was important for Hinata but not Naruto, people are still angry at Hinata because she glossed over his death, no she really did, she was tearing at first but then just more "Oh Naruto-kuns hand," I'm sorry but why does it seem like Hinata makes regressions in times like this? sleep.gif

Could NaruHina become canon from 615 forward, possibly but still so much issues for characters and changing the story. If NaruHina did happen, Kishi would need to do something with Sakura to avoid damaging her character, only solution to Sakura would be for her to go independent not with Sasuke (all the wrong reasons again). Also Hinata cannot just be elevated in importance, if she keeps getting attention this risks pushing her into territory she does not belong in, mainly the team 7 and tailed beast conflicts.

I love how all the anti-narusaku fans try to make a massive case over 3 chapters and yet there is still so much more for the manga to do. I mean they act like Sakura is just going to be stored away or how its impossible for her to change. Do the insane fans always just take the words they see literally rather than looking for the context and meanings of the dialogue? dry.gif Yeah Naruto said he hates people who lie to themselves, but this is easily counter-argued with many other story elements and logic that more or less supports NaruSaku with proper consistancy related to story elements, parallels, and character attributes (basically Naruto and Sakura are not all what many anti-fans claim them to be, they have more good qualities to each other).

Given the mass trolling Kishi does, its funny how many fans give the arguments, "It was the real naruto who held her hand, not clones like everyone else," "Naruto thought it was romantic too, why did he grab her hand on his own will," "The sakura panel was basically Kishi signifying Sakura's time passed, she is no longer the heroine," "He held her hand longer so it was meaningful," "Hinata got the power first and Sakura got none so we win." Oh man these arguments are both funny and somewhat desperate as I see them, yes it was the real Naruto, how many times has the real Naruto saved Sakura now? He held her entirely, Naruto himself always saved Sakura not a clone. Yeah we did not get Naruto's thoughts on the hand holding, we cannot say his thoughts were romantic, if Naruto thought of anything at the moment, it was all the people who helped him and what Hinata and Kurama said, he was thinking of those who sacrificed themselves for him NOT ROMANCE. The sakura panel has importance and tell me this, if Hinata is the heroine now, what will she do when they meet Sasuke? All I would see between Sasuke and Hinata meeting is Who the f are you? See keeping Sakura out and doing this already overhauls a massive plot element, Hinata is not part of team 7 and never will be. The hand holding duration? Its a manga, these people should realize how much drama is put into these things and they extend the scene, it seems like the moment takes 5 minutes when its only like 15 seconds. He grabbed her hand on his freewill for many reasons (to thank her and begin the chakra enhancement plan). Hinata got it first and Sakura got none, yeah because Hinata was the closest, Sakura's overall powers would in truth be an unnecessary risk against the ten tails, but think of it like this If Sakura is left out from this, then something else should come her way. I'd still suspect Tsunade would give her the yin seal on her forehead technique via technique transfer (if Itachi could do it to Sasuke, Tsunade can do it to Sakura), or possibly a senju power up as many theroize by either Tsunade or Hashirama (thats if Hashirama sees Tsunade and being the apprentice, he gives Sakura that same thing merely from studying under her).

Still fanbases drive me insane when they just assume and not look at the greater whole or wait for the next portion of events.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 02:17 PM

great post inferno. and trust me not some nh fan all the nh fans argue on the handholding part. one day i was debating with some other nh fans on a naruto group. and they said nh is better i asked why. they said cant you see the manga . in the chunin exam in the pain arc , in the recent battle all these point towards nh. i said well cant you see the manga. the ns devlopments are more logicaly right than nh. then they said in naruto kishi is logic. i said then he can make naruten then and saisaku but will he . it ll provide a bad message.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 02:26 PM

sorry for double post my mobile cant take more words that the previous post has. so mods please forgive me you can make the one.
so yes it ll provide a bad message that no matter what you do you cant get the girl you like the most . they said think this from the side from hinata. if narusaku happens a bad message will be provided that no matter what you do you cant get the boy you have been loving since you are 5. i said she is a secondary charcter. they say does it matter? so what if she is a secondary character it doesnt matter here is my question does it really matter?

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 02:34 PM

I can't take this anymore.


After seeing good portion of the movie, I can't even think of another possibility anymore. NS seems really to be the one that Kishi will go with. It's no wonder people reconsidered on NS. The amount of scenes in there are really good. There are funny moments, sad moments, and happy moments. I love how Naruto told his parents that Menma is right there and once they ran to Menma, Sakura felt hurt because she knows that Naruto is hurt seeing his parents going to their real son. Sakura really shows a lot of heart in the movie for Naruto. Naruto shows a lot of care for her as well. In the end, he seems like he got worried to ask her on a date, probably because he felt bad earlier in the movie, but luckily, he did. Sadly, he didn't know he was on the longest date ever.

Honestly, I won't see the movie again if NS is not even canon, let alone making others canon. It will be the worst of Kishi and I will lose all respect for him.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 02:39 PM

same with me mate same with me. just wait for the next chapter.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 02:46 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 17 2013, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can't take this anymore.


After seeing good portion of the movie, I can't even think of another possibility anymore. NS seems really to be the one that Kishi will go with. It's no wonder people reconsidered on NS. The amount of scenes in there are really good. There are funny moments, sad moments, and happy moments. I love how Naruto told his parents that Menma is right there and once they ran to Menma, Sakura felt hurt because she knows that Naruto is hurt seeing his parents going to their real son. Sakura really shows a lot of heart in the movie for Naruto. Naruto shows a lot of care for her as well. In the end, he seems like he got worried to ask her on a date, probably because he felt bad earlier in the movie, but luckily, he did. Sadly, he didn't know he was on the longest date ever.

Honestly, I won't see the movie again if NS is not even canon, let alone making others canon. It will be the worst of Kishi and I will lose all respect for him.

Ohh wow, the movie really hit you right? biggrin.gif
Cant wait to watch it too, but im gonna wait for the translation to fully enjoy it.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 02:46 PM

QUOTE (narulsaku @ Mar 17 2013, 10:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
same with me mate same with me. just wait for the next chapter.

Honestly, if no NS but others, I'll be mad as hell. I want to see it but I'll wait for subs. Anyway, it's cute how Sakura blush a little when she was asked if she was dating Naruto. Funny, you would have think she would brush it off quick like in part 1 time. Oh, how much time has changed.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 03:47 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 17 2013, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Honestly, if no NS but others, I'll be mad as hell. I want to see it but I'll wait for subs. Anyway, it's cute how Sakura blush a little when she was asked if she was dating Naruto. Funny, you would have think she would brush it off quick like in part 1 time. Oh, how much time has changed.
its funny though its not the first time


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Posted 17 March 2013 - 03:53 PM

i always got the NH part hinata has good reason for liking naruto but the SS part never really get wye sakura likes him so much was it the looks or?

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 03:56 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Mar 17 2013, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ohh wow, the movie really hit you right? biggrin.gif
Cant wait to watch it too, but im gonna wait for the translation to fully enjoy it.

It really did. There's no way Kishi did all those scenes for nothing. There were too many Sakura talking about Naruto when he's not even there. I can't watch the movie if the direction of the manga is completely different. Interesting that Sakura didn't get beat down easily, as if to say, "She could fight longer, but Naruto woke up too soon." I give kudos on that one. I like how Tobi was ready to strike, Sakura push Naruto away and prepare to fight on her own because Naruto was too weak after one really cool move. Seriously, I can't wait for NS and Sakura moment in the manga.

QUOTE (narulsaku @ Mar 17 2013, 11:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
its funny though its not the first time

The blush part? Of course not.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 04:01 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 17 2013, 08:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It really did. There's no way Kishi did all those scenes for nothing. There were too many Sakura talking about Naruto when he's not even there. I can't watch the movie if the direction of the manga is completely different. Interesting that Sakura didn't get beat down easily, as if to say, "She could fight longer, but Naruto woke up too soon." I give kudos on that one. I like how Tobi was ready to strike, Sakura push Naruto away and prepare to fight on her own because Naruto was too weak after one really cool move. Seriously, I can't wait for NS and Sakura moment in the manga.


The blush part? Of course not.


i understand wanting NS to be cannon but be patient, once it is cannon that most likely means the manga is over

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 04:12 PM

QUOTE (Inferno180 @ Mar 17 2013, 06:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Given the mass trolling Kishi does, its funny how many fans give the arguments, "It was the real naruto who held her hand, not clones like everyone else," "Naruto thought it was romantic too, why did he grab her hand on his own will," "The sakura panel was basically Kishi signifying Sakura's time passed, she is no longer the heroine," "He held her hand longer so it was meaningful," "Hinata got the power first and Sakura got none so we win." Oh man these arguments are both funny and somewhat desperate as I see them, yes it was the real Naruto, how many times has the real Naruto saved Sakura now? He held her entirely, Naruto himself always saved Sakura not a clone. Yeah we did not get Naruto's thoughts on the hand holding, we cannot say his thoughts were romantic, if Naruto thought of anything at the moment, it was all the people who helped him and what Hinata and Kurama said, he was thinking of those who sacrificed themselves for him NOT ROMANCE. The sakura panel has importance and tell me this, if Hinata is the heroine now, what will she do when they meet Sasuke? All I would see between Sasuke and Hinata meeting is Who the f are you? See keeping Sakura out and doing this already overhauls a massive plot element, Hinata is not part of team 7 and never will be. The hand holding duration? Its a manga, these people should realize how much drama is put into these things and they extend the scene, it seems like the moment takes 5 minutes when its only like 15 seconds. He grabbed her hand on his freewill for many reasons (to thank her and begin the chakra enhancement plan). Hinata got it first and Sakura got none, yeah because Hinata was the closest, Sakura's overall powers would in truth be an unnecessary risk against the ten tails, but think of it like this If Sakura is left out from this, then something else should come her way. I'd still suspect Tsunade would give her the yin seal on her forehead technique via technique transfer (if Itachi could do it to Sasuke, Tsunade can do it to Sakura), or possibly a senju power up as many theroize by either Tsunade or Hashirama (thats if Hashirama sees Tsunade and being the apprentice, he gives Sakura that same thing merely from studying under her).

But NaruHina is canon as of these past few chapters. There's no point in rationalizing everything to make it not so.

QUOTE (Canadian_DJ @ Mar 17 2013, 04:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Foolish younglin'...dat sakura profile pic of yours....its ssooo cute!!!
And check this out http://detail.chiebu...il/q12100768007 its nice to know that the japanese fandom thinks about sakura in a positive way smile.gif (here's the translation:Resolved Q & A


I like this heroine's No. 1 Suramudan Haruko Akagi sakura NARUTO "Haruno? ... Who?
yasoukyoku_view Mr.

I like this heroine's No. 1? Who? "NARUTO Sakura Haruno Haruko Akagi slam dunk " "Amagi Zetman lobule Ganz Tae Kojima "

It is cherry NARUTO!

I know its not much..but ahh what the heck...btw guys whens the next popularity poll? Im placing my bets that sakura's gonna pound hinata to the ground! on second thought, i hope hinata isn't even in the top ten! *praying*


Unfortunately, I think there are also a lot of Sakura haters amongst the Japanese fanbase:

Original: ナルトはヒナタを愛している。しないふしだら意地の悪いピンクの髪の雌犬。日向はもう誰が彼女の男に触れあえて怒るぞ。あなたは雌犬のクソ、日向を好きではないために性交しなさい!
Translation: Naruto loves Hinata. Pink haired b!#ch nasty s!^t you do not want to. Hinata will get mad at anyone dare to touch the man of her anymore. F^#k you for f^#king b!#ch do not like the sun!


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Posted 17 March 2013 - 04:13 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 17 2013, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Honestly, if no NS but others, I'll be mad as hell. I want to see it but I'll wait for subs. Anyway, it's cute how Sakura blush a little when she was asked if she was dating Naruto. Funny, you would have think she would brush it off quick like in part 1 time. Oh, how much time has changed.

wait what blush? In the movie!?



QUOTE (Branden @ Mar 17 2013, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i understand wanting NS to be cannon but be patient, once it is cannon that most likely means the manga is over

Well, yes. We know he's gonna keep milking it till the very end.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 04:25 PM

QUOTE (narulsaku @ Mar 17 2013, 12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
go on laugh at me cuz i dont know what is OOC.

Hehey, there's nothing wrong with that we all learn new stuff! i mean, i dont even know what OTP means!

Awesome posts guys, keep it up!

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#12759 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 04:29 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Mar 17 2013, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i understand wanting NS to be cannon but be patient, once it is cannon that most likely means the manga is over

Yeah, I know. Just imagine if he didn't make it canon. The movie would be insanely hard to watch.

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Mar 17 2013, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wait what blush? In the movie!?

Yeah. She was all innocent like when she was telling Hinata that it's a misunderstanding. Then, she threatens her. Fun little scene. I like how Sakura and Naruto planned it to escape from them. Shino trying to explain the obvious and Naruto cloned himself to escape from Hinata. I like how Sakura became more worry for Naruto as time goes by, especially when she had a bad feeling that Naruto is loving the world enough to stay there forever. She rather have him in the real world with Naruto being Naruto. I guess that's why she image him in his young days. God! Kishi, I'll freaking kill you if you dare to make anything else canon!

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 04:56 PM

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This is Kate Higgans btw.




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