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[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Isn't she described to be tomboy though? I remember one databook called her that. That or one of those volumes description. I forgot but she is supposedly to be like that. Let's not forget that she only trying to make herself look at her "best" for Sasuke, especially her hair. Nothing wrong with tomboy like girl. Often, tsundere comes from that type. But that's just me.

She and Kushina are described as tomboys if i recall, even Tsunade pointed up this, that Kishi Kushina became a beatifull woman later.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 05 January 2014 - 11:48 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

She and Kushina are described as tomboys if i recall, even Tsunade pointed up this, that Kishi became a beatifull woman later.

Yeah, so I was right.

[AzureWaters]

I don't think she is really what you would call a tomboy. She's aggressive at times, but is rather feminine when it comes to disposition and style. I remember Kishi placed her in a skirt in the beginning of the war arc, even. Someone like Tenten would be who I'd consider boyish in attitude, not Sakura.

[T XD]

Isn't she described to be tomboy though? I remember one databook called her that. That or one of those volumes description. I forgot but she is supposedly to be like that. Let's not forget that she only trying to make herself look at her "best" for Sasuke, especially her hair. Nothing wrong with tomboy like girl. Often, tsundere comes from that type. But that's just me.

Yeah, I have read that too somewhere. In a data book from what I remember. Tsunderes are usually tomboys. It's a trait in them. For example, Nami from One Piece, Rukia from Bleach, Misty from Pokemon, etc.

[sushi.]

I like Sakura's complexity. She is rather feminine, but she can handle dirt on her nails.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I don't think she is really what you would call a tomboy. She's aggressive at times, but is rather feminine when it comes to disposition and style. I remember Kishi placed her in a skirt in the beginning of the war arc, even. Someone like Tenten would be who I'd consider boyish in attitude, not Sakura.

Aggressiveness has nothing to do with being tomboy although, just her clothes doenst make her look more feminine, it's more focused on giving her more mobility to adapt with her fighting style rather than looking more feminine.

If i remember the only thing feminine of her clothes which Kishi commented though is the Chinesesque. 

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yeah, I have read that too somewhere. In a data book from what I remember. Tsunderes are usually tomboys. It's a trait in them. For example, Nami from One Piece, Rukia from Bleach, Misty from Pokemon, etc.

Yeah, I know. I rather like that personality. Heck, I'm in a relationship with one. Hurts but cures by charm. What more I can ask?

I like Sakura's complexity. She is rather feminine, but she can handle dirt on her nails.

Agree. The part 2 outfit does says, "Time to brawl."

[AzureWaters]

Aggressiveness has nothing to do with being tomboy although, just her clothes doenst make her look more feminine, it's more focused on giving her more mobility to adapt with her fighting style rather than looking more feminine.

If i remember the only thing feminine of her clothes which Kishi commented though is the Chinesesque. 

 

If someone is labeled as a Tomboy that generally means they do not fit in the category of what is "typical" for a girl, and have more traits in common with the opposite gender. Their personal style is somewhat masculine (loose fitting clothes, not very fashionable, etc) and their personality is often a bit rude and/or unchecked. Sakura has worn dresses and skirts. She's very polite to strangers and those in higher positions, and is generally warmhearted and welcoming. She is a kunoichi of course so she fights-- I don't see how that makes her more of a tomboy.
 

She doesn't have to be especially focused on her looks to be considered feminine. It's the way she carries herself. I believe "fierce" is a better word to describe her than "tomboy", which I think implies things that don't really fit with who she is.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

The idea of Naruto's feelings being shallow is absurd. We never got a real reason? Okay. Here's the thing. We don't need one. It'd be a nice bonus for NS, but we really don't no matter what the fandom says. We did get the chapter where Naruto explained he knew why he liked her. It was because she wanted acknowledgement just like him. That was NaruSaku's beginning and it was understandably not enough for explanation for most fans, even for me. But what makes people believe that's the only reason for his feelings NOW?   If that was the case, then he'd be in love with Hinata.

 

I always thought Naruto's love for Sakura arose the same way Sakura's feelings for him did: Development, time, and maturity. He spent so much time with her as a teammate and got to know her extremely well. He was able to see her compassion, selflessness, and determination to succeed to echoes his own. I know Sakura haters would fail to grasp this side of her because they hate her so much, but that is what Naruto fell in love with. It's not even close to a shallow reason, if it was he'd be over her by now and he wouldn't show such blind devotion to her. They don't have to agree with his choice over the objection of his affections, but I wish they respected it instead of downplaying it.  Downplaying it sort of insults Naruto for me. After all the pain and self-sacrificing he has gone through with her, you would really brush that off as crush?

 

If that's what NaruHina/SasuSaku fans think about Naruto's love for Sakura, then I'd really like to see their reason on how NaruHina and SasuSaku somehow aren't.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 06 January 2014 - 12:19 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Still, she was listed as tomboy, so approved?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

The idea of Naruto's feelings being shallow is absurd. We never got a real reason? Okay. Here's the thing. We don't need one. It'd be a nice bonus for NS, but we really don't no matter what the fandom says. We did get the chapter where Naruto explained he knew why he liked her. It as because she wanted acknowledgement just like him. That was NaruSaku's beginning and it was understandably not enough for explanation for most fans, even for me. But what makes people believe that's the only reason for his feelings NOW?    If that was the case, then he'd be in love with Hinata.

 

I always thought Naruto's love for Sakura arose the same way Sakura's feelings for him did: Development, time, and maturity. He spent so much time with her as a teammate and got to know her extremely well. He was able to see her compassion, selflessness, and determination to succeed to echoes his own. I know Sakura haters would fail to grasp this side of her because they hate her so much, but that is what Naruto fell in love with. It's not even close to a shallow reason, if it was he'd be over her by now and he wouldn't show such blind devotion to her. They don't have to agree with his choice over the objection of his affections, but I wish they respected it instead of downplaying it.  Downplaying it sort of insults Naruto for me. After all the pain and self-sacrificing he has gone through with her, you would really brush that off as crush?

 

If that's what NaruHina/SasuSaku fans think about Naruto's love for Sakura, then I'd really like to see their reason how NaruHina and SasuSaku somehow aren't.

The last time Naruto thought about his feelings for Sakura were on chapter 3, it was settled that his crush was based on his fettish for Sakura's forehead, he liked this in particular physical trait and her looks which describes as a crush, later he falls in love with her because she also seeks acknowledgement from Sasuke after that there's nothing else more.

The rest is not reasons but rather how Naruto cherishs Sakura's happiness i like to see her happy.

 

If it was would be something that had done implicity without saying out loud the unquestionable fact are on chapter 3, since he stated that his feelings matured to love when he was about to kiss her.

When on the begining of the chapter he said "a girl that i like" later when he was about to kiss he already acknowledges as love.

 

 

 

If someone is labeled as a Tomboy that generally means they do not fit in the category of what is "typical" for a girl, and have more traits in common with the opposite gender. Their personal style is somewhat masculine (loose fitting clothes, not very fashionable, etc) and their personality is often a bit rude and/or unchecked. Sakura has worn dresses and skirts. She's very polite to strangers and those in higher positions, and is generally warmhearted and welcoming. She is a kunoichi of course so she fights-- I don't see how that makes her more of a tomboy.
 

She doesn't have to be especially focused on her looks to be considered feminine. It's the way she carries herself. I believe "fierce" is a better word to describe her than "tomboy", which I think implies things that don't really fit with who she is.

 

 Sakura was also the same way however Kushina was more described around beating boys who mocked her around.

Tomboyish also describes someome who doesnt dresses up like a woman took it from another manga, Kushina also worn dresses and skirts too

Also here's how she dressed up

http://i10.mangaread...uto-1377332.jpg

 

But anyway character attractiveness is more a personal matter, as to show up here's my preference of clothes when it comes to characters.

Also the pinnacle  of attractiveness on this manga is long hair followed with a dress.

Which is also show when Tsunade commented about Kushina's status of being a beatifull woman and how magically Sakura's hair started growing recently.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 06 January 2014 - 12:31 AM.

[AzureWaters]

Still, she was listed as tomboy, so approved?

 

Eh, if it's just from the databook (which has fallacies) then not really. Is there another source that describes her as a tomboy?

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
Eh, if it's just from the databook (which has fallacies) then not really. Is there another source that describes her as a tomboy?

Well, you don't oftenly get described as a type of person in series, unless you're describing to not yet shown person, like Kushina. Databook did also list her as tomboy. I know, perhaps not the best source, but I'm only saying.

[narulsaku]

 
Well, I wouldn't say that's true.  While there's no getting around the fact that Sakura thought of Sasuke when the Lover-nin was talking about love in #540, due to slight variations in the translations I don't think it's 100% clear what's going on.
 
First of all, it's interesting to note that the most significant thing Sakura actually says ("There's someone else I...") is in #539 -- purposely separated from the rest of the scene by a week's time.  I didn't use to think that mattered and have argued the opposite out here before, but I've changed my mind since the release of the official English Jump volume.  In that version she says, "I have someone already, though, you see..."
 
I am now more inclined to think that Kishimoto broke the scene that way because the guy Sakura is talking about in #539 -- the "someone" -- is Naruto.  I mean, think about it.  When the Lover-nin scene happened Sakura already recognized that Sasuke was no longer the same person she had loved.  She knew he had nearly murdered Karin.  She had already tried to kill Sasuke twice and he had tried to kill her twice, and she had already more or less made a commitment to Naruto in front of witnesses.  
 
Even in the worst case -- if Sakura was flat out lying to Naruto during her confession and she has no feelings for him at all -- in #539-540 she still knew perfectly well that she does not "have" Sasuke, and he is not someone she can in any way count as a person in her life.  It makes no sense that she was referring to Sasuke as the "someone else."
 
As for what Lover-nin says in #540:
 
"But there is one thing that I know... If it's somebody that you like, then they're bound to be a great person!" (Mangareader)
"Hope it works out for you.  He must be a really great guy if you're in love with him." (Mangastream)
"Well, good luck.  If you love him he must be a good man." (English Jump, vol. 57)
 
When Sakura then thinks of Sasuke, can we be 100% sure why?  Was it meant to reflect her disappointment in herself because she still loves him?  Or meant to reflect her disappointment that she ever loved him?  
 
Although Naruto was not shown as the positive replacement in the same panel, I still think it can be reasonably argued that Sakura's disappointment was mainly about having ever loved Sasuke.  It is consistent with her reaction to Sai's revelation -- that her feelings for Sasuke are a source of great pain to Naruto, a guy she knows is a "good man."
 
Something to consider, anyway.
 
Beyond that we have other, more recent evidence that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke have changed.  When Sasuke appeared on the battlefield she showed wide-eyed surprise at his arrival to "help," but later a huge panel was dedicated to the implication that she does not trust him.  Likewise, when Team 7 reunited to fight the enemy, Sakura spoke only to Naruto.  It was as if Sasuke was not relevant.
 
And all of that was on top of the fact that she did not deny Naruto's assertion to his father that they were boyfriend/girlfriend in #631.  So yeah.  I think Kishimoto has been moving Sakura beyond Sasuke -- slowly, maybe, but surely.
 
ETA:  By saying that during the reunion Sakura only spoke to Naruto, I meant when she was claiming her right to fight with them.

wowh ok. But she thought of sasuke during lover nin right. And u can see that when she was fighting to those small jubbis she said "sasuke u saved me" whan sasuke and naruto covered her killing the other jubiis .u can see her face ,expressions . Yes she focused towards naruto more but still u cant deny that she has still crush feelings for sasuke. Though it seems to be decreased but still it is there.

[Dalton.T.R]

She and Kushina are described as tomboys if i recall, even Tsunade pointed up this, that Kishi Kushina became a beatifull woman later.

I thought a tomboy was a girl who thinks she's a guy, or does a lot of things women typically wouldn't do. As in playing with toy cars instead of dolls, or having a career most other females wouldn't be interested in. By no means are Sakura and Kushina 'tomboys'.

Edited by Dalton (I stink at names), 06 January 2014 - 03:26 AM.

[咲耶姫]

i agree with you.
As i have already said kishi has dragged nh and ss a bit hard . As u said if further nh or ss momemts came it would become difficult to make the resolution . I dont understand why kishi is still showing that sakuras feelings havent change not even a bit after that killing attempt. Hinata i get it but why sakuras feelings for sasuke is still strong.

I know it was already replied, but I couldn't help. 

Are these proves of strong feelings that have not change a bit?

[咲耶姫]

wowh ok. But she thought of sasuke during lover nin right. And u can see that when she was fighting to those small jubbis she said "sasuke u saved me" whan sasuke and naruto covered her killing the other jubiis .u can see her face ,expressions . Yes she focused towards naruto more but still u cant deny that she has still crush feelings for sasuke. Though it seems to be decreased but still it is there.

She doesn't say "Sasuke you saved me!" She just say "Sasuke!" when he appeared next to her after he saved her, because she's surprised, and then Naruto arrived and said that he helped too and she replied that he had to focused on bigger matter. She hasn't show any positiv feelings since the murder attempt. Those feelings have obviously change since the murder attempt whereas you said in the first post that they havn't change a bit.

But you're right in your last post, she still have feelings for him, but they are decreasing more in each chpter she appear to think of Sasuke. 

[Hanabi]

how come nobody ever says the guys are useless. people like lee kiba or shino wtf. people keep harping on girls being useless, most commonly using tenten as a joke, or sakura, and that she is just a tsunade clone. lee is a guy clone too! im so pissed by this double standard.

[rocci]

I believe in this volume, there will be sakura->naruto and naruto->sakura.

[TouKen4Life3g]

If you read my post from tumblr, my mouth is sealed on this one.