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[HauntedCake]

What make it worse as the part tha she was honest on the confession, she said that naruto makes her feel safe, encourage her, supported her, was there at her side makes her happy and other stuff pretty much having 0 reasons left for her to love Sasuke, i think Kishimoto will have to change the entire series for SS to make it canon because he pratically left any reason for her to love Sasuke, Sasuke is not more an influence on her life, it wasnt him who make her grown and encouraged her it was Naruto so, there's no reason for SS to be canon.
Sasuke is nothing to Sakura aside for being her crush but srsly he's nothing.

Bolded: hmmm, i dont think that Sasuke is NOTHING to her, because she still loves him ofc, however recently she has begun to put Naruto above Sasuke. It's time for Saskure to grow up and realize how flawed Sasuke is and that her "love" for him is generally wrong.

I'm not saying this because i hate SS, i'm saying it's wrong because it's just ridiculous to love someone who's an international criminal, tried to kill you twice and pretty much caused her the most pain in her life.

How does it make sense for her to harbor any feels beyond friendship for Sasuke now??

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Bolded: hmmm, i dont think that Sasuke is NOTHING to her, because she still loves him ofc, however recently she has begun to put Naruto above Sasuke. It's time for Saskure to grow up and realize how flawed Sasuke is and that her "love" for him is generally wrong.

I'm not saying this because i hate SS, i'm saying it's wrong because it's just ridiculous to love someone who's an international criminal, tried to kill you twice and pretty much caused her the most pain in her life.

How does it make sense for her to harbor any feels beyond friendship for Sasuke now??

I said aside from being a crush, point me a single influence from Sasuke on Sakura's life, that has nothing to do with being a crush.
On her confession she described Naruto as the one who did all the good things for her, this is the reason why her love for Sasuke is illogical, if Kishi portraited Sasuke encouraging her or doing things that Naruto did to her, she would have a reason and it would have a logic but it doesnt.

Sasuke did nothing for her.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 16 March 2013 - 04:11 PM.

[Inferno180]

Well technically Road to Ninja will be a good hold over for the lack of moments.

Again, the whole war arc aspect is truly what set the lack of moments, not really for just NaruSaku, but for NaruHina, just about all of them.

In all respect, this is war, no time to be thinking about romance even then its an action series, romance needs to stay back there as long as it can. If anything the 5 kage summit arc was an emtionally deep one, but it also did something very big for the series, it finally introduced the other 3 nations. That is what I loved about the 5 kage summit, that we got to see the greater whole of the naruto world. Even then the 5 kage summit and 4th world war arcs did one major thing, the introduction of so many other minor characters. We know the main crew in the leaf, we know a few from the sand, only Bee, Ay, and Dauri are well known to the readers (us) from the cloud. All others though, this war arc was so long, there have been some fights which really served and came out of the blue.

I mean Dauri and the gold/silver brothers, that was a big fight but those 2 characters could be called an asspull, saving Naruto from extraction for the ten tails, alongside his stamina. We thought Bee would get doomed but then Kishi was all, "At least one other Jinchurki should live." Gaara only came back cause Chiyo being a minor character was worth sacrificing. Another fight Mifune and Hanzo, well this minor character who we only knew from the Sannin and Pain's backgrounds just happened to have a history with another new character like Mifune. Then we get insert random other village kages and a few shinobi we don't know about. Most were well, yes canon but still kinda out of place, I mean the war arc is long but there were not enough dead villains and allies just in the manga before now were there? I mean some of the development was good, mainly the confrontations between Sai and Shin (his adoptive brother from root) Kakashi and Zabuza, Gaara and his father, and Team 10 vs Asuma, same with Itachi and Sasuke. Though it took the anime to fill in more of these fights, it has had one big factor.

With so many new characters from just the 5 kage summit, kishi had to make a small amount of time for all these others aside from those minor characters we knew better (like Gaara) or major (like team 10) in this arc, basically everyone needed a small amount of time in the spotlight. Everyone was shafted for a while (Naruto in training with Bee, Sasuke recovering from Itachi's eye transplant, the kage just leading the armies). Hey I'm at least happy we got a badass Sakura moment with the white Zetsu, at least that one action had an impact for the alliance till Naruto came to clear it all out.

I think the 4th war is about to end but with Obito and Madara doing a tactical retreat, something will happen with the ten tails like it going into a cocoon for its true mature form. Remember the smallest bit of chakra in there is the 8 tails, it needs that portion to grow before it can be complete. Yes this in essence means that the akasuti would have never even needed to capture the tailed beasts, only portions of their chakra and this would have allowed the gedo statue to reanimate into the ten tails just much slower.

As for Sakura, well if she is left out of the chakra rush, I'm placing my hopes in that Sakura gets something better, I mean I really really hope she at least gets something from Tsunade (if she dies). I mean if he even said that Sakura had the potential to be a real heroine, then its time she gets doing it physically like in Sasori, not just being a mentally developed heroine. And yeah many of us are sick of force fed Hinata, (OMG SHE HEALED HIS SHOULDER! ITS CANON SAKURA IS WORTHLESS!)-> This type of reaction really grinds my gears

Sakura will get something, but its just overall Kishi cannot end her character loving Sasuke nor make NaruHina simply come by without damage, so yeah its unavoidable, some interaction between Naruto and Sakura over Sasuke will lead to something else regardless of pairings.

[HauntedCake]

I said aside from being a crush, point me a single influence from Sasuke on Sakura's life, that has nothing to do with being a crush.
On her confession she described Naruto as the one who did all the good things for her, this is the reason why her love for Sasuke is illogical, if Kishi portraited Sasuke encouraging her or doing things that Naruto did to her, she would have a reason and it would have a logic but it doesnt.

Sasuke did nothing for her.

That i cannot do good sir.

Well the only thing he did for her was to be Eye Candy....... does this count????

Edited by HauntedCake, 16 March 2013 - 04:14 PM.

[Codus N]

I think the 4th war is about to end but with Obito and Madara doing a tactical retreat, something will happen with the ten tails like it going into a cocoon for its true mature form. Remember the smallest bit of chakra in there is the 8 tails, it needs that portion to grow before it can be complete. Yes this in essence means that the akasuti would have never even needed to capture the tailed beasts, only portions of their chakra and this would have allowed the gedo statue to reanimate into the ten tails just much slower.

That's a good theory. The Juubi going into some sort of state of suspended animation before transforming into its true form might just be possible. I really get the feeling we'll see Madara and Obito somehow being forced to retreat later on before the final winner takes all battle. This break would be a good opportunity for delve into more about Kakashi's development.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well technically Road to Ninja will be a good hold over for the lack of moments.

Again, the whole war arc aspect is truly what set the lack of moments, not really for just NaruSaku, but for NaruHina, just about all of them.

In all respect, this is war, no time to be thinking about romance even then its an action series, romance needs to stay back there as long as it can. If anything the 5 kage summit arc was an emtionally deep one, but it also did something very big for the series, it finally introduced the other 3 nations. That is what I loved about the 5 kage summit, that we got to see the greater whole of the naruto world. Even then the 5 kage summit and 4th world war arcs did one major thing, the introduction of so many other minor characters. We know the main crew in the leaf, we know a few from the sand, only Bee, Ay, and Dauri are well known to the readers (us) from the cloud. All others though, this war arc was so long, there have been some fights which really served and came out of the blue.

I mean Dauri and the gold/silver brothers, that was a big fight but those 2 characters could be called an asspull, saving Naruto from extraction for the ten tails, alongside his stamina. We thought Bee would get doomed but then Kishi was all, "At least one other Jinchurki should live." Gaara only came back cause Chiyo being a minor character was worth sacrificing. Another fight Mifune and Hanzo, well this minor character who we only knew from the Sannin and Pain's backgrounds just happened to have a history with another new character like Mifune. Then we get insert random other village kages and a few shinobi we don't know about. Most were well, yes canon but still kinda out of place, I mean the war arc is long but there were not enough dead villains and allies just in the manga before now were there? I mean some of the development was good, mainly the confrontations between Sai and Shin (his adoptive brother from root) Kakashi and Zabuza, Gaara and his father, and Team 10 vs Asuma, same with Itachi and Sasuke. Though it took the anime to fill in more of these fights, it has had one big factor.

With so many new characters from just the 5 kage summit, kishi had to make a small amount of time for all these others aside from those minor characters we knew better (like Gaara) or major (like team 10) in this arc, basically everyone needed a small amount of time in the spotlight. Everyone was shafted for a while (Naruto in training with Bee, Sasuke recovering from Itachi's eye transplant, the kage just leading the armies). Hey I'm at least happy we got a badass Sakura moment with the white Zetsu, at least that one action had an impact for the alliance till Naruto came to clear it all out.

I think the 4th war is about to end but with Obito and Madara doing a tactical retreat, something will happen with the ten tails like it going into a cocoon for its true mature form. Remember the smallest bit of chakra in there is the 8 tails, it needs that portion to grow before it can be complete. Yes this in essence means that the akasuti would have never even needed to capture the tailed beasts, only portions of their chakra and this would have allowed the gedo statue to reanimate into the ten tails just much slower.

As for Sakura, well if she is left out of the chakra rush, I'm placing my hopes in that Sakura gets something better, I mean I really really hope she at least gets something from Tsunade (if she dies). I mean if he even said that Sakura had the potential to be a real heroine, then its time she gets doing it physically like in Sasori, not just being a mentally developed heroine. And yeah many of us are sick of force fed Hinata, (OMG SHE HEALED HIS SHOULDER! ITS CANON SAKURA IS WORTHLESS!)-> This type of reaction really grinds my gears

Sakura will get something, but its just overall Kishi cannot end her character loving Sasuke nor make NaruHina simply come by without damage, so yeah its unavoidable, some interaction between Naruto and Sakura over Sasuke will lead to something else regardless of pairings.

It's like what I said in one thread, not sure where. I said that Naruto is going through closures/interactions with many characters starting with Iruka, which is fitting. Then Raikage, since well they did have a bad start when Naruto tried to reason with him about Sasuke. Then, the two former villains that he made promises, Nagato and Itachi. Then, Kages with them telling him to end the war. Then, Jinchuurikis, hoping for him to overcome the odds and end the reign, which is fitting as well since this is the last time Naruto meets them. Then, his friends aka K9, also fitting. So who's left? You guessed it, Team 7. I think Kishi planned this, even though he's having rough to postpone Sakura or even Sai into mix. If I'm right, then I hope Kishi does it right.

[Dkey]

Well we can see that one Bijuu can help a lot against fighting the Jiuubi so they could try to capture Naruto and Killer Bee to extract their chakra and make for a good Arc where for a change not Naruto but the others are the ones taking action and level the plain field with Naruto. We've seen development for almost the entire shinobi world but a rescue team organized of Konoha 11 or maybe something even smaller could make for some development opportunities for Sakura, Sai others close to Naruto. It can also mean that Yamato will come back.

Anyway i feel the previous Hokages will join the fight and see Naruto's will of fire and entrust everything to him ( heck give him some more power ups?) and we may see the madara obito thing put to rest for good.

Then the manga will only have Sasuke to deal with. And about him and the others of team 7. I said before that it will be on multiple levels, which i refereed to the fact that when Naruto's and Sasuke's fists touch they have a mind meld of sorts. At that stage there isn't any place where Sakura can be squeezed.

Edited by Dkey, 16 March 2013 - 06:07 PM.

[Inferno180]

That's a good theory. The Juubi going into some sort of state of suspended animation before transforming into its true form might just be possible. I really get the feeling we'll see Madara and Obito somehow being forced to retreat later on before the final winner takes all battle. This break would be a good opportunity for delve into more about Kakashi's development.

Hey at this point with the whole reaper seal Minato used so Naruto could meet him and Kushina, Itachi being able to transfer his own abilities to Sasuke's eyes no problem, even in the fillers with just portions of energy somehow leading to something else (like the Sora arc, gold and silver brothers), its proven in this universe you only need a bit of chakra for it to grow into something more.

Even then, its not hard to figure out the battleplan in the event with the ten tails, I revoke my eariler tactical retreat, Obito and Madara do not retreat, instead the ten tails would go into stasis/coccoon form but then Madara just trolls everyone again.

Madara is literally a god right now, he can only be stopped by being sealed, even then, he can use his Susanno for an unlimited amount of time. I mean he made an army of 25 Sussano against the 5 kage, if anyone retreats, its going to be the ninja alliance, that final plan for Shikaku will be modified by shikamaru and maybe succeed. Basically this match ends in a draw, the ten tails is rendered useless for now, but its going to take time for it to both mature to its real form and for Madara to use its power as a jinchurki. Even then he still needs Obito to die and the names Naruto learned will come back into action for some purpose. The ninja allaince runs from madara cause he is an overpowered SOB and they don't want to die so yeah the ninja alliance runs for their lives, they did not learn the last time against madara and are too weakened from the ten tails initial attacks. Just a quick note, one friend of mine said that in Japanese culture, if you knew the name of a demon, you had power over it for reasons such as it being vulnerable to other demons and people, is this true? Considering the story the tailed beasts for all purposes are demons.

Edited by Inferno180, 16 March 2013 - 06:18 PM.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Bolded: hmmm, i dont think that Sasuke is NOTHING to her, because she still loves him ofc, however recently she has begun to put Naruto above Sasuke. It's time for Saskure to grow up and realize how flawed Sasuke is and that her "love" for him is generally wrong.

I'm not saying this because i hate SS, i'm saying it's wrong because it's just ridiculous to love someone who's an international criminal, tried to kill you twice and pretty much caused her the most pain in her life.

How does it make sense for her to harbor any feels beyond friendship for Sasuke now??

Well, to be fair ... Sakura doesn't actually love Sasuke. Not this Sasuke, the one immersed in darkness that tried to kill everyone and makes Naruto self-destructive in an act of "selflessness". The problem with her is that she's in love with the Sasuke that was, not the Sasuke that is. In other words, she's holding on to a memory of the Sasuke who actually cared. She's aware that he's different than before, her idealized version of him is broken now. After 540, it's time to move on. Sakura just can't let go like that, it's taking time. One thing's for certain: Even when she stops loving him romantically, she'll always care for him.

The thing about SS is ... Sasuke showed mostly indifference toward her, not annoyance. Re-read Part 1 if you want a refresher. And even then, her feelings still don't make any sense. If Sasuke never did much particularly nice or selfless for her, what's there about him to get so deeply attached to? At least in SasuNaru, Sasuke acknowledged Naruto more than he did Sakura. It's just ... can someone plz ask Kishi why she loves him in an interview? Or better yet have Sakura explain in the manga? Seriously, I'm tired of constantly thinking a big "wtf" when I think of her love for Sasuke. Sure I'll still hate SS no matter the reason, but I want to least understand why she feels that way.

Out of all the Big 3, I understand Sakura's feelings for Sasuke the least. Naruto's love for Sakura? 100% understood. Hinata's love for Naruto? 90% understood. Sakura's feelings for Naruto? 110% understood. Sakura's love for Sasuke? -0% understood.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 16 March 2013 - 06:20 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well, to be fair ... Sakura doesn't actually love Sasuke. Not this Sasuke, the one immersed in darkness that tried to kill everyone and makes Naruto self-destructive in an act of "selflessness". The problem with her is that she's in love with the Sasuke that was, not the Sasuke that is. In other words, she's holding on to a memory of the Sasuke who actually cared. She's aware that he's different than before, her idealized version of him is broken now. After 540, it's time to move on. Sakura just can't let go like that, it's taking time. One thing's for certain: Even when she stops loving him romantically, she'll always care for him.

The thing about SS is ... Sasuke showed mostly indifference toward her, not annoyance. Re-read Part 1 if you want a refresher. And even then, her feelings still don't make any sense. If Sasuke never did much particularly nice or selfless for her, what's there about him to get so deeply attached to? At least in SasuNaru, Sasuke acknowledged Naruto more than he did Sakura. It's just ... can someone plz ask Kishi why she loves him in an interview? Or better yet have Sakura explain in the manga? Seriously, I'm tired of constantly thinking a big "wtf" when I think of her love for Sasuke. Sure I'll still hate SS no matter the reason, but I want to least understand why she feels that way.

Out of all the Big 3, I understand Sakura's feelings for Sasuke the least. Naruto's love for Sakura? 100% understood. Hinata's love for Naruto? 90% understood. Sakura's feelings for Naruto? 110% understood. Sakura's love for Sasuke? -0% understood.

Well here's a thing. Sakura tried to help Sasuke many times in part 1, but he keeps pushing her in a very negative way. The last good note moment was either the compliment on her genjutsu or maybe the hug to snap him out though he never say anything about it but not telling Naruto about it. Funny how he was more concerned about Naruto. Naruto at times push her but he's doing it a normal way, rather than hurting her. I think her past experiences hunts her because she doesn't want to feel like a burden, especially now. So with Naruto, you can say she's trying her best to improve her past. That's not to say she's going to do that to win Sasuke, rather it seems Kishi is transferring her care factor towards to Naruto. Again, she will still care for Sasuke, but if Sasuke does indeed becomes a wanderer, then it's best for her to understand who she cares the most and will spend time with him to the end.

As to answer why she loves Sasuke, well ask Ino first before going to her. It seems like love is hard to move on, but it must happen when it's not working at all. Move on and start anew or realize there's something that you felt for another person and you don't know it until it's just click. Naruto and Sakura interaction hasn't happened because it would seem that whatever Naruto say something nice or do something nice, it will click her and she may realize it. Again, the last time Naruto did something nice towards her was back in part 1 with PoaL and look at the effect that happened. Sure, he does say/do something nice in part 2, but not directly to her. Not something concerning only her. Look at FMA. When Ed say something nice towards Winry, bam, she realized it. Naruto most likely going to say something really nice to her before his battle with Sasuke. They won't be canon there but it can be Sakura falling for Naruto scene. Canon happens when they both accept each other. Granted, when she falls in love happens mean canon automatically, it's just good to see the end of it. Not saying he switch to Hinata before Sakura returns his feeling, but you know what I mean.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Well, to be fair ... Sakura doesn't actually love Sasuke. Not this Sasuke, the one immersed in darkness that tried to kill everyone and makes Naruto self-destructive in an act of "selflessness". The problem with her is that she's in love with the Sasuke that was, not the Sasuke that is. In other words, she's holding on to a memory of the Sasuke who actually cared. She's aware that he's different than before, her idealized version of him is broken now. After 540, it's time to move on. Sakura just can't let go like that, it's taking time. One thing's for certain: Even when she stops loving him romantically, she'll always care for him.

The thing about SS is ... Sasuke showed mostly indifference toward her, not annoyance. Re-read Part 1 if you want a refresher. And even then, her feelings still don't make any sense. If Sasuke never did much particularly nice or selfless for her, what's there about him to get so deeply attached to? At least in SasuNaru, Sasuke acknowledged Naruto more than he did Sakura. It's just ... can someone plz ask Kishi why she loves him in an interview? Or better yet have Sakura explain in the manga? Seriously, I'm tired of constantly thinking a big "wtf" when I think of her love for Sasuke. Sure I'll still hate SS no matter the reason, but I want to least understand why she feels that way.

Out of all the Big 3, I understand Sakura's feelings for Sasuke the least. Naruto's love for Sakura? 100% understood. Hinata's love for Naruto? 90% understood. Sakura's feelings for Naruto? 110% understood. Sakura's love for Sasuke? -0% understood.

The problem is that even the Sasuke of the past still didnt did the things that Naruto did for her, he did nothing the new one and even the old one, she loved him but still nothing justify that love, because Sasuke didnt influenced her, the old one and even the new one, this is so true that her only moments that she thinks she's in love are one-sided moments of her own, like his parting and that hug from behind to make him stop but 0 good memories she even states that she was happy because of team 7 not Sasuke so he's not a huge influence on her life, after Naruto, Ino and then Tsunade are the ones who influence her life.

After the confession i thought she would find reasons to love Naruto or continue loving Sasuke but she only find reasons to love Naruto and move on from Sasuke.
She said the truth on that part of the fake confession she was honest with herself, why loves a man that is a criminal and only make her suffer when she's close to someome who makes her happy, protects her, encourages her, and it's capable to go to the hell for her, and still pursue a relationship with a guy that only made her suffer.
Even when she was going to kill him her memories were about her one-sided moments i thought we would get a flashback were Sasuke did something to her that really justify her love but we got nothing only that "thank you".
This does not make sense anymore, SS will undo all those things she realize and bash her character.


If we compare Hinata's flashbacks of Naruto to Sakura's flashbacks to Sasuke, Hinata's love is way too much superior(reasons).

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 16 March 2013 - 07:10 PM.

[HauntedCake]

Yep, i just don't understand Sakura's love for Sasuke, there's nothing to it other then a 1 sided crush based on his outside appearance. Outside being key, proving it isn't real love, just a girl going for the "cool guy".

This is the reason why i strongly feel Naruto should be temporarily killed, for her realize everything Naruto has done for her as well as who he is to her. Secondly whilst Naruto is temp dead she will see that all she is left with is a physco, murdering monster AKA Sasuke.

It definatley a case of "you don't know what you had till you lose it"

Sad that i believe it has to come to this but a scenario like this would change Sakura instantly, rather then holding onto an image of the old Sasuke, who in anycase was still awful to her.

Edited by HauntedCake, 16 March 2013 - 07:23 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Yep, i just don't understand Sakura's love for Sasuke, there's nothing to it other then a 1 sided crush based on his outside appearance. Outside being key, proving it isn't real love, just a girl going for the "cool guy".

This is the reason why i strongly feel Naruto should be temporarily killed, for her realize everything Naruto has done for her as well as who he is to her. Secondly whilst Naruto is temp dead she will she that all she is left with is a physco, murdering monster AKA Sasuke.

It definatley a case of "you don't know what you had till you lose it"

Sad that i believe it has to come to this but a scenario like this would change Sakura instantly, rather then holding onto an image of the old Sasuke, who in anycase was still awful to her.

You know what make me rage?
Sasuke tries to kill her two times, rejected her confession and her offer, treated her cold so many times, and the worse part is that, she even realized her feelings for Naruto and acknowleged that he was a way better guy than Sasuke and despite all this Naruto as to be near death for her to realize the obvious?

I think kishi is avoiding an interaction between she and Naruto because Narusaku is already canon it's hinted that her behavior towards Naruto heavily changed when they came back she was more kind and gentle towards him and even smiled on a way that she never did on the series before.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 16 March 2013 - 07:26 PM.

[lord287]

Hey guys I was just thinking about the chapter where Naruto held Hinata's hand and in the next chapter we didn't get any view of saukra at all when Naruto transfered kyuubis chakra to other people and a thought came to my mind that maybe kishi did not show up saukra because he is going in for NS moment now and he didnt wanted to ruin that huge moment he has planned by making Naruto a conversation-less chara transfer to sakura. I think the next time we see Sakura their will be an NS moment(hopefully ) or the total other way around i.e. total destruction of NS by giving another NH(canon NH) moment by making sakura say I saw Hinata and You holding hands, and u both looked so good together etc. I definitely want the former one to happen and I defiitely believe that kishi wont just mess up all Naruto's feelings towards sakura and all the development NS has had especially since the selfless smile Naruto gave at hospital!

[HauntedCake]

You know what make me rage?
Sasuke tries to kill her two times, rejected her confession and her offer, treated her cold so many times, and the worse part is that, she even realized her feelings for Naruto and acknowleged that he was a way better guy than Sasuke and despite all this Naruto as to be near death for her to realize the obvious?

I think kishi is avoiding an interaction between she and Naruto because Narusaku is already canon it's hinted that her behavior towards Naruto heavily changed when they came back she was more kind and gentle towards him and even smiled on a way that she never did on the series before.

Bolded: This and this!!



I feel the same way bro, but this is the only way i can see Sakura waking up from the stupid childish daydreams and fantasies about Sasuke.

Edited by HauntedCake, 16 March 2013 - 07:51 PM.

[Dkey]

Sakura frustrates everybody
NH shippers because she stands between Naruto and Hinata
NS shippers cause she still has feelings for Sasuke and doesn't want to give him up

and Sakura fans for not showng her face more often or having some more development.

Gotta say for a main character Kishi managed to make a really complicated character

[Inferno180]

You know what make me rage?
Sasuke tries to kill her two times, rejected her confession and her offer, treated her cold so many times, and the worse part is that, she even realized her feelings for Naruto and acknowleged that he was a way better guy than Sasuke and despite all this Naruto as to be near death for her to realize the obvious?

I think kishi is avoiding an interaction between she and Naruto because Narusaku is already canon it's hinted that her behavior towards Naruto heavily changed when they came back she was more kind and gentle towards him and even smiled on a way that she never did on the series before.

Many mangas do this type of thing, they leave some lingering elements floating around that can take long periods of time before returning to them, look at one peice, one of the biggest story elements is with the void century and rylagh silver knowing about the treasure itself and possibly one piece (the treasure) being linked to the void century. The series has ran over 15 years and still has little revealed on this. I would not be surprised if this is somewhat the same with Naruto and Sakura's relationship.

As for Sasuke's development, yeah he is mellowed out but no reason again to start loving, he never did anything for Sakura, Naruto was there, it would take a great amount of logic for Sakura to still keep loving him and when he redeems himself, she still loves him putting us back to square one, thats not development, thats reducing Sakura to nothing in one entire chapter.

Even in a situation if Sakura encounters mellowed out Sasuke and his crew (taka, orchipedo, and the edo hokages) without Naruto, this would be an intense moment and one in which she would need to overcome Sasuke.

Imagine it like this, if the Ninja allaince retreated from Madara (as I said before) when the ten tails goes into stasis/cocoon mode, during this time (or before it) Sakura and Sai were not on the battlefront because they went to heal the 5 kages. At this site of healing and tsunades fate (betting she dies), Sakura, Sai, and the remaining 4 kages come into contact with Sasuke and Co. First off, Sakura and the kage would need to understand why Orochipedo is there with the 4 hokages, they need to barter some truce because it involved Madara. Sakura's interaction towards Sasuke would be the point of determining her future. Sasuke said he would face Naruto first but among anything tell how Hashirama gave him a thought to do something other than revenge, fighting Naruto is the only way to confirm it. It would be hard to imagine how Sakura will act at this point but even then:

-He still tried to kill her twice
-Its still damaing to her character to love this guy out of pure idealness and stick with it
-Sakura cannot maintain this mentality of idealism towards him or hope that Naruto could simply "condition" him back, Sasuke still did nothing. If Naruto fell for Hinata and then Sasuke started showing affection to Sakura who would still show it towards her, thats just the final straw, Naruto would go down in history with an ultimately wasted opportunity for character development and would ruin Sakura and Sasuke.

No matter how the future interaction goes between Sakura and Sasuke, if naruto is present or not, when Sakura hears the truth about Itachi, how Sasuke is mellowed out and has something other than revenge and promises to face Naruto first for that answer, it ultimately changes nothing, Sakura cannot love the guy who still tried to kill her in open fury, let alone still does not even have her on his list of goals. Sakura is literally nothing to Sasuke, he was a friend at the start but turned all emo-a**hole. I don't see the series ending on a right note between them unless they could just be friends at this point. Not loving, cause Sakura's crush was idealistic and Sasuke has no reason for romance in this story. Its easy as that.

Naruto and Sakura interaction - many reasons and purposes for it, worked both ways even with naruto only taking the romantic intrest.

Sasuke and Sakura interaction - really never made progress, practically in the negative progress zone after Sasuke bolted, tried to kill them at the reunion (but Orochipedo stopped him) and at the 5 kage summit.

I don't see how Sakura should even have her feelings for Sasuke return to simple love after hearing the truth about Itachi and seeing him mellowed out and not doing something revenge based. Sasuke made his choice, if he never even acted positively to her in the start, always treated her bad, its time to let go

SasuSaku is alive in fanfiction land, thats where it belongs, if Sakura still loves Sasuke at the end then this would entire journey would have been worthless on Sakura's point. Sakura needs to overcome Sasuke, if she can then this will make her one of the most memerable characters in any shouen manga, she would have overcome her own inner conflicts when it came to the wellbeing of both Naruto and Sasuke. If she does realize her feelings for Naruto, it would be for all the right reasons, not having a falsified love which is proven to hold her back and even stated by the author himself to be selfish.

Sakura may love the old nicer Sasuke but that does not change the fact of the one who was there for her, if she gains feelings for Naruto beyond friendship, this would come out to be one of the better plot points in the series because it would have been one of her biggest struggles, love who you think you do or who was honest to you and at the same time who she was honest with for a great part of the series. Sakura coming to love Naruto would have been one of the biggest points of the series and would have all the right reasons to occur from all the events between team 7. There is just so much to keep the story intact for Sakura to overcome Sasuke and to become fully developed at least just being over him, she does not need to love Naruto even, just get over Sasuke and the story can still end on a proper note. Just getting over Sasuke and/or loving Naruto would have taken all the issues and conflicts for all characters on team 7 in the right direction and lead to a proper ending. Not just Naruto goes to Hinata and Sakura sticks on Sasuke like crazy glue again.

I don't see how Sakura could simply love him again, 'because he was manipulated and he had his reasons for revenge, and he has a new reason aside from revenge, he mellowed out, I should still love him." I like Sakura and all, but I would honestly stop reading this manga at that point not out of pairing stuff but because even in important opportune moments for development, he again abandons it and keeps things static and weak. Its not development, its regression for the wrong reasons and makes the story overall, dry, state, and redundant. Biggest asspull in manga history. Naruto's love for Sakura has meaning, Sakura's close friendship with Naruto has meaning. SasuSaku has no meaning no matter what way you look at it, its too damaging from this point on no matter how its displayed, no amount of asspulling logic could make up for this, Kishi chose to have Sasuke do what he did, he put Sasuke in that position, Sasuke has no reason for love and Sakura just needs to mature over it, Sasuke is not the one, he is the wrong one.

Naruto is the goal to at least make Sasuke friendly again, but have Sakura turn to him out of everything he did. If anything Naruto is Sakura's best friend aside from Ino and all that more important. Yeah love is f'd up in this universe if she still loves him in the end and Naruto just goes to Hinata, no matter how many times you look at it SS always results in damaged and destroyed character development and plot logic.

[T XD]

Sakura frustrates everybody
NH shippers because she stands between Naruto and Hinata
NS shippers cause she still has feelings for Sasuke and doesn't want to give him up

and Sakura fans for not showng her face more often or having some more development.

Gotta say for a main character Kishi managed to make a really complicated character

Seems that complication in a main character attracts people from all the sides XD

But, seriously, Sakura has her own character. Some needs to understand that how is her character and to know her personality more, not to mention to know what's the nature of her personality.

Edited by T XD, 16 March 2013 - 08:37 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Many mangas do this type of thing, they leave some lingering elements floating around that can take long periods of time before returning to them, look at one peice, one of the biggest story elements is with the void century and rylagh silver knowing about the treasure itself and possibly one piece (the treasure) being linked to the void century. The series has ran over 15 years and still has little revealed on this. I would not be surprised if this is somewhat the same with Naruto and Sakura's relationship.

As for Sasuke's development, yeah he is mellowed out but no reason again to start loving, he never did anything for Sakura, Naruto was there, it would take a great amount of logic for Sakura to still keep loving him and when he redeems himself, she still loves him putting us back to square one, thats not development, thats reducing Sakura to nothing in one entire chapter.

Even in a situation if Sakura encounters mellowed out Sasuke and his crew (taka, orchipedo, and the edo hokages) without Naruto, this would be an intense moment and one in which she would need to overcome Sasuke.

Imagine it like this, if the Ninja allaince retreated from Madara (as I said before) when the ten tails goes into stasis/cocoon mode, during this time (or before it) Sakura and Sai were not on the battlefront because they went to heal the 5 kages. At this site of healing and tsunades fate (betting she dies), Sakura, Sai, and the remaining 4 kages come into contact with Sasuke and Co. First off, Sakura and the kage would need to understand why Orochipedo is there with the 4 hokages, they need to barter some truce because it involved Madara. Sakura's interaction towards Sasuke would be the point of determining her future. Sasuke said he would face Naruto first but among anything tell how Hashirama gave him a thought to do something other than revenge, fighting Naruto is the only way to confirm it. It would be hard to imagine how Sakura will act at this point but even then:

-He still tried to kill her twice
-Its still damaing to her character to love this guy out of pure idealness and stick with it
-Sakura cannot maintain this mentality of idealism towards him or hope that Naruto could simply "condition" him back, Sasuke still did nothing. If Naruto fell for Hinata and then Sasuke started showing affection to Sakura who would still show it towards her, thats just the final straw, Naruto would go down in history with an ultimately wasted opportunity for character development and would ruin Sakura and Sasuke.

No matter how the future interaction goes between Sakura and Sasuke, if naruto is present or not, when Sakura hears the truth about Itachi, how Sasuke is mellowed out and has something other than revenge and promises to face Naruto first for that answer, it ultimately changes nothing, Sakura cannot love the guy who still tried to kill her in open fury, let alone still does not even have her on his list of goals. Sakura is literally nothing to Sasuke, he was a friend at the start but turned all emo-a**hole. I don't see the series ending on a right note between them unless they could just be friends at this point. Not loving, cause Sakura's crush was idealistic and Sasuke has no reason for romance in this story. Its easy as that.

Naruto and Sakura interaction - many reasons and purposes for it, worked both ways even with naruto only taking the romantic intrest.

Sasuke and Sakura interaction - really never made progress, practically in the negative progress zone after Sasuke bolted, tried to kill them at the reunion (but Orochipedo stopped him) and at the 5 kage summit.

I don't see how Sakura should even have her feelings for Sasuke return to simple love after hearing the truth about Itachi and seeing him mellowed out and not doing something revenge based. Sasuke made his choice, if he never even acted positively to her in the start, always treated her bad, its time to let go

SasuSaku is alive in fanfiction land, thats where it belongs, if Sakura still loves Sasuke at the end then this would entire journey would have been worthless on Sakura's point. Sakura needs to overcome Sasuke, if she can then this will make her one of the most memerable characters in any shouen manga, she would have overcome her own inner conflicts when it came to the wellbeing of both Naruto and Sasuke. If she does realize her feelings for Naruto, it would be for all the right reasons, not having a falsified love which is proven to hold her back and even stated by the author himself to be selfish.

Sakura may love the old nicer Sasuke but that does not change the fact of the one who was there for her, if she gains feelings for Naruto beyond friendship, this would come out to be one of the better plot points in the series because it would have been one of her biggest struggles, love who you think you do or who was honest to you and at the same time who she was honest with for a great part of the series. Sakura coming to love Naruto would have been one of the biggest points of the series and would have all the right reasons to occur from all the events between team 7. There is just so much to keep the story intact for Sakura to overcome Sasuke and to become fully developed at least just being over him, she does not need to love Naruto even, just get over Sasuke and the story can still end on a proper note. Just getting over Sasuke and/or loving Naruto would have taken all the issues and conflicts for all characters on team 7 in the right direction and lead to a proper ending. Not just Naruto goes to Hinata and Sakura sticks on Sasuke like crazy glue again.

I don't see how Sakura could simply love him again, 'because he was manipulated and he had his reasons for revenge, and he has a new reason aside from revenge, he mellowed out, I should still love him." I like Sakura and all, but I would honestly stop reading this manga at that point not out of pairing stuff but because even in important opportune moments for development, he again abandons it and keeps things static and weak. Its not development, its regression for the wrong reasons and makes the story overall, dry, state, and redundant. Biggest asspull in manga history. Naruto's love for Sakura has meaning, Sakura's close friendship with Naruto has meaning. SasuSaku has no meaning no matter what way you look at it, its too damaging from this point on no matter how its displayed, no amount of asspulling logic could make up for this, Kishi chose to have Sasuke do what he did, he put Sasuke in that position, Sasuke has no reason for love and Sakura just needs to mature over it, Sasuke is not the one, he is the wrong one.

Naruto is the goal to at least make Sasuke friendly again, but have Sakura turn to him out of everything he did. If anything Naruto is Sakura's best friend aside from Ino and all that more important. Yeah love is f'd up in this universe if she still loves him in the end and Naruto just goes to Hinata, no matter how many times you look at it SS always results in damaged and destroyed character development and plot logic.

You just resumed Sakura's character.
With Shipping.

Kishimoto does not have balls to develop her character anymore, now her dilemma is "Sasuke or Naruto" it's basically this the entire part 2 aside from Sasori's arc and backwards, i cant think otherwise other than this, Sasuke's retrieval with shipping stuff towards both Naruto and Sasuke, then more shipping stuff on the second time, even the arc with Hidan and Kakuzu she did nothing, aside from shipping stuff towards (both Sasuke and Naruto), first with Naruto on his training and later with Sasuke on the part that Deidara explodes himself, Pain's arc more shipping stuff with Naruto going to train and her screaming for Naruto, then her hug(after all this fanservice towards Naruto) suddenly kishi pull more shipping stuff towards Sasuke (when they receive the news that Sasuke joined Jorge's Organization) then we get the confession arc with more shipping stuff towards Naruto (confession) then Sasuke(with Naruto saying that she loves him and his flashbacks) then more Naruto shipping stuff (with his bridal style) then later more shipping stuff with 540 and her thinking about (Sasuke).

This all instead of her having a fight and acting like a main heroine should do instead of having her role downgraded to basically shipping stuff.

Sakura the love Ninja.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 16 March 2013 - 08:39 PM.

[HauntedCake]

Sakura frustrates everybody
NH shippers because she stands between Naruto and Hinata
NS shippers cause she still has feelings for Sasuke and doesn't want to give him up

and Sakura fans for not showng her face more often or having some more development.

Gotta say for a main character Kishi managed to make a really complicated character

I really hope this doesn't become the case. I really hope she has already started to get over him because it would be the most epic ass-pull, troll scene to have SS and NH.
I seriously never touch anything Naruto again if SS /NH happened, neither would make any sense or convey good writing.SS would ruin years of development as well as degrade Naruto completely for NH