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[CrimsonHairedLover]

Some one went and found all the NaruHina interactions in the entire manga... 

 

Guess how many pages

 

Who's the real red herring? 

Just 38? I thought it was even less. I don't think Kishi understands the meaning of "Red Herring" exactly

[Metalhead87]

Just 38? I thought it was even less. I don't think Kishi understands the meaning of "Red Herring" exactly

 

I'm not sure Kishimoto knows the meaning behind most tools utilised in writing these days lol

[WhyDoIWatch]

Just 38? I thought it was even less. I don't think Kishi understands the meaning of "Red Herring" exactly

lol off topic but I really thought your avatar was Erza from Fairy Tail...

[LuckyChi7]

It's one thing for a girl to plea for a guy she's had feelings for all this time, but the moment he knocks her unconscious, and leaves her outside through the night without any protection is another thing. Furthermore a couple years pass by the faith she holds on to fades, but she keeps a small amount of hope to believe and then moment they reunite he does worse than what happened that night. He chocks her and almost murders her in cold blood. I don't care how justifiable you think a girl's feelings is towards a guy maybe but the moment he hurts the girl in the most harmful way possible is where the line gets drawn. That fantasy the girl once had has now shattered right before her eyes. 

 

 

 

That is what you call development.  You don't just do Oh despite everything he's put her through she's still gonna forgive him because that's development. No It just shows how weak and pathetic you're characters look to the readers, but I digress Kishi. And know this don't think because I'm reading part 3 for the sake of the series, no I'm only doing it to see how low it sinks. It's going to take a lot from me to just simply forgive you for what you did to this series. That is something I highly doubt you're going to get out of me and everyone else you betrayed that loved this series. 

[CrimsonHairedLover]

 

I'm not sure Kishimoto knows the meaning behind most tools utilised in writing these days lol

I'm not sure that Kishimoto knows what writing is period.

 

lol off topic but I really thought your avatar was Erza from Fairy Tail...

Lol, Errrrnnnt Wrong

[Gaara's hair]

B-but Kishi made cookies shaped like scarfs

[Metalhead87]

I'm not sure that Kishimoto knows what writing is period.

 

Probably not, no lol 

[Metalhead87]

B-but Kishi made cookies shaped like scarfs

 

I bet they're bitter and tasteless...like the ending to Naruto.

[Tiller]

B-but Kishi made cookies shaped like scarfs

Wait.. what? lol

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

He said that he was on the fence about doing NS but decided not to so yeah.......

 

I know but Sasuke thinks that soon enough the alliance will break up as the common enemy is defeated. He isn't selfish, he is willing to be hated forever for the sake of ever lasting peace if he wanted he could have just said he wanted to rule the world for his own needs. I meant he had to get used to it which is training, I don't think there's a way to literally train your eyes other than using it. In the first confession he was joking, the second was too. When I said "tough love" I mean that he wants to protect her but in a bad way Ex- Itachi torturing Sasuke so he would get stronger, Sasuke knocked her out because she would come and get in the way of his battle with Naruto and die.

She came to him to declare that she would help destroy her village which has all her friends and families, how does it look if she cant kill a random criminal without hesitation but she would be able to do that to the village, Yamato stated that Sasuke was dangerous, Sasuke saw Sakura rushing at him to attack him so he was ready to stab her when he stabbed Yamato he didn't have the intention to kill him.....

 

And you know what is ironic about all this is the the previous day or two and the Yahagi interview, he said that NH was his intentions from the beginning. Right there he lied, so yeah. He was no misleading NS fans for 15 years, nor did he intended NH from the start because in that interview, he stated he started planning NH from the start of Pt2.

 

Sigh.

Please understand already. It happened because of plan changed. Stop making sense. Every arcs are on their own world. God, just get it already. Have a good day and to all, shut the hell up.

 

Sorry 

 

It's one thing for a girl to plea for a guy she's had feelings for all this time, but the moment he knocks her unconscious, and leaves her outside through the night without any protection is another thing. Furthermore a couple years pass by the faith she holds on to fades, but she keeps a small amount of hope to believe and then moment they reunite he does worse than what happened that night. He chocks her and almost murders her in cold blood. I don't care how justifiable you think a girl's feelings is towards a guy maybe but the moment he hurts the girl in the most harmful way possible is where the line gets drawn. That fantasy the girl once had has now shattered right before her eyes. 

 

 

 

That is what you call development.  You don't just do Oh despite everything he's put her through she's still gonna forgive him because that's development. No It just shows how weak and pathetic you're characters look to the readers, but I digress Kishi. And know this don't think because I'm reading part 3 for the sake of the series, no I'm only doing it to see how low it sinks. It's going to take a lot from me to just simply forgive you for what you did to this series. That is something I highly doubt you're going to get out of me and everyone else you betrayed that loved this series. 

 

All this because Kishi gave up on Sakura. I swear every time he uses that infamous trope of his, "never to give up" I just want deck him in the face. I know its harsh but that's how I feel.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Oh!

Sorry! My last post was for others, not you guys! Sorry!

[HuskyLover]

 

I was temted to stop watching when they started talking about the Hinata fight with Pain, which was a one hit KO, and they were making out it to be more, showing scenes that never happened in the manga, then they mention her being bullied, again something SP made up, and tried to repackage in the movie as true, (I said this years ago, SP have shown delusions of grandure, they believe their created content is better than the actual Manga, they blatently pissed over the manga that made them millions.) this pretty much got me in the mindset these guys are NH fanboys

 

While I agree with the facts on why they hated the movie, their biggest argument was flawed, Hinata and Naruto NEEDED two hours of actual development, they seriously thought that three scenes in the 699 chapters was enough. The fact in a 13 minute rant they never even mentioned Sakura, spoke volumes to me that they went in bias anyway. I saw this review and came away with NH fanboys sad htat the movie proved that the manga didn't have enough content to justify their pairings.

 

You know what the wierd part is thebiggest NaruHina development is something no NaruHina fan ever mentions, the scene where Naruto is going to the Chunnin finals, was the biggest moment NH ever had, and not a single fan ever mentions it. It's the only time where Naruto acknowledges Hinata, but it also confirms he never saw her as anything other than an oddball.

 

http://www.mangapand...chapter-98.html

 

If I was to be converted to NH it would be this scene, yet for some reason NH fans don't appreciate it.

 

Completely Agree.

 

I was just showing an example of two Fairly Neutral NH Fans who can CLEARLY see the faults in that Bullsh*t movie and were being very honest about how they felt about it (unlike those other sh*tty reviewers like Sawyer7mage, Forneverworld and Double4sh*t )

 

While I disagree with them about the development of NH in the Manga, I mainly agree with the fact that this is a pathetic conclusion to the series and completely unrelated to the manga. 

 

Anyone that says that the Film is a fitting end to the series, never knew what they've been reading all these years

[NarutoUzumaki01]

And who's to say that NH couldn't have been the same way? If Kishi truly cared about NH he could have developed it to the point were it was just as strong and believable as NS.

Even if you don't see the potential doesn't mean others can't as well

For me? Totally woudn't, Sakura's stereotype is better for me than Hinata. Trully caring doesn't magicaly created 4th sannin to get a parallel, or something other. At best - Hinata could had development, to be good minor character. I'm not a fan of NH at any of it type and for me story totally would be alot less intresting if it was the case, but ofcours it's only for me. Maybe someone would like a story of a shy girl that would get a chance to mary a true hero, but that won't be story of Naruto that is the point. And better then thinknig how good could be NH developed I better think of NS getting proper ending, that's all I would do.

Sure it could have potential, but totally uintresting for me, that's all.

[harry4e]

I think people have read far too much into this and give it far more weight than it deserves. I needed my car to get to work today. Doesn't mean I want to screw it. I saw nothing that would allow to distinguish "need" beyond that her specific skills were needed for a given task. When they were not he was willing to kill her.

 

And that's exactly what I'm saying, her unique skillset was something Sasuke cared about, and went out to recruit her, and him trying to kill Karin was at Sasukes lowest point, he cared for nothing more than revenge, for a girl to be on Sasuke's radar she had to be useful to him, it's just the kind of person he was at the time, he only acknowledged power, It was the only way in the manga with his charactor design there was ever going to be a possability of him having a love interest. It's sad but when you've written a charactor who has to be shown to fall into disperity the only type of female that would make sense standing next to him would be someone who isn't pure as snow. Karin fit the bill.

 

You could tell that Karin was introduced in the series to fit in well with Sasuke, same way Sakura was created to fit in well with Naruto, Ino with Chouji and Temari with Shikamaru...they were all classic design tropes used, the dumb blond with the smart girl, the kinda vain girl with the overweight bloke, the acknowledged genius with the lazy genius.

 

Kishi will deny this now, but I am pretty sure that he had these pairing in mind when he (or his original editor as it now appears) created these charactors.

[Liu bie]

Please Forneverworld, do not say Saint Seiya forever when chose Naruto.

[MangaReader]

Just 38? I thought it was even less. I don't think Kishi understands the meaning of "Red Herring" exactly

38 seems like too much doesn't it 

[WhyDoIWatch]

Sasuke is an immoral spoiled brat. His character always has been. He gets by in the fandom because of his looks, and his supposed "bad boy" attitude (the way Mussolini was a bad boy). If he looked like Quasimodo his fanbase wouldn't be half the size it is now. Sasuke first and formost has always been about his wants and desires, leading off with his desire for revenge. Which is his only character drive. First against Itachi, then against Konaha, then against the Ninja System, and final against Naruto because he stood in the way of his fascist plans to rule the known world under his iron fist.

 

Blame Kishimoto, or cultural differences. I'm not sure which, but when you boil it down Sasuke is a horrible person, who has no respect for the rights of man. His life was kitten, so everyone else deserves to feel like kitten to, and if you are allowed to live it will be under his laws, his rules, by his allowance. If you live to see the dawn it will be because he allowed it. That's Sasuke Uchiha before Naruto punched him hard and showed he was hard to kill. After that now Sasuke is "pure" again who is sorry cause he couldn't kill Naruto. Heaven help the ninja verse if Naruto has a heart attack from eating nothing but ramen noodles and whiskey, because I wouldn't be shocked to see him go postal again, if he was anything like a true person. My two cents. Besides Hinata, Sasuke is the most overrated, and stereotypical character in the story which is saying a lot with this flaming pile of burning dog crap in a bag called the "Naruto" manga/anime.

 

How is he "spoiled" his life sucked the most, and looks are irrelevant the same could be said about Sakura/Naruto/Kakashi. I think you got what Kishi said wrong, he says that Sasuke is neither good nor bad he's pure. Agreed if Naruto didn't win Sasuke would continue but the same could be said about Gaara........

 

Bolded- He isn't overrated, he has the best development in the series, his ideals were interesting and second only to Madara, he isn't stereotypical if anyone is, its Naruto who is Jesus with his all forgiving self and always smiling.

Yeah, I've had it up to here lol

He is selfish because he wants to do what he wants and what he preferred, regardless of how everyone else felt. He determined that his life and his ambitions were worth more than the lives and freedom of everyone else. He wasn't joking about how he felt, he felt, and always has felt, that she was annoying. When he put her in the genjutsu, he wasn't trying to protect her, he didn't need her interfering. He literally gives zero f**cks about Sakura.

 

She hesitates, and he valued her life as worthless, and tried to kill her. He had zero way to know what she was thinking. Also, you have it backwards, Sasuke rushed at Sakura, she was standing still, Yamato knew he was going to kill her 

 

Agreed completely. 

Why wouldn't he just kill her off if he didn't care for her? I don't think that's selfish but rather close minded by thinking that the only way peace is attained is with his ideals.

 

Sasuke is an S Rank Criminal, if Sakura stopped that means she isn't going to help him and is probably planning something, he can't read minds but he can infer what her plan is. Sakura clearly runs to him ready to attack and only stops when Yamato gets in the way.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Anyone noticed that no one brought up Kage Summit Arc in War Arc? Only one was with Karin.

[harry4e]

Some one went and found all the NaruHina interactions in the entire manga... 

 

Guess how many pages

 

Who's the real red herring? 

 

Not to contradict this person but wasn't scene 29-31 interaction with his clones? Apparently the super eyes of the Hyuuga princess so powerful that aliens from the Moon come to kidnapp her for them, can't tell the difference between the Real and fake Naruto-kun.

[Atheck]

Anyone noticed that no one brought up Kage Summit Arc in War Arc? Only one was with Karin.

 

Speaking of the Kage Summit arc, I'm wondering what Sakura's original strategy was going to be when entering into the lion's den. Surely everyone in her group must have realised that Sasuke had improved to such a degree that none of them would survive an encounter with him. Even Kakashi could just barely defend himself against Susanoo using his most powerful technique. What chance did Sakura, Kiba, Sai, or Lee have against that?