The man who's going to save the world.
Posted 04 January 2014 - 11:23 PM
Random thoughts: funny how mangapanda used a Hinata picture only for 615 yet when there's like 631 and for some reason 635, there's a NS picture. Again, random.
Don't they always choose the fanart depending on the mood of the chapter?
Also what do you think 615 and 631 are going to be like in the anime?
"This hat means a lot to me. Promise me you'll give it back someday...
when you've become a great pirate." -Shanks
Heaven and Earth Deity
Posted 04 January 2014 - 11:33 PM
Yep, completely agree. Kishi has a pattern going. NH and SS aren't done yet not because of the feelings of the characters are resolved, but because Kishi still has a need to drive up reader suspense. The pairing strife will continue until the very end for suspense purposes, and I'm fully expecting an all-is-lost moment for NS before Kishi resolves it.
I thought that moment would be the confession where even after realizing the things Naruto did to her she still wasnt in love with Naruto but on the contrary it reaffirmed once again her feelings for Sasuke further and ended up with no conclusion at all to keep the suspense.
Also Nh never generated suspense on the pairing aspect because none of their moments leads to a conclusion, it's mostly discarded or avoided for a reason, it has no follow up development, like as an example after Hinata's confession there's not a single panel about what happened with Naruto's feelings however after Sakura's confession there's the lover ninja issue.
Nh is not part of the pairing suspense because kishi put Sakura on the center of it, as an example, during the handholding there's the infamous Sakura's panel showing her "shocked" reaction towards something(either the handholding or Neji's death).
Naruto never took part on this aspect therefore i dont involve NH into this.
Also an all is lost moment will only damage the development of NS so far because there's no reason for it, it cant be done naturally and even then Sakura's feelings are kept hidden for the solely purpose of pairing suspense, the pairing suspense is SS or NS with Sakura on the center of it.
Don't they always choose the fanart depending on the mood of the chapter?
Also what do you think 615 and 631 are going to be like in the anime?
I hate them because of the fanarts, there's nothing new it's always the same and it is an annoyance combined with the ads which i resolved an adplus, i always get mad when i i click the next page expecting to start reading the chapter and is a fanart.
Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 04 January 2014 - 11:41 PM.
Heaven and Earth Deity
Posted 04 January 2014 - 11:45 PM
I hate them because of the fanarts, there's nothing new it's always the same and it is an annoyance combined with the ads which i resolved an adplus, i always get mad when i i click the next page expecting to start reading the chapter and is a fanart.
I hate when I think a chapter is long, then there are 4 pages of just fanart. XD Always in the end.
Edited by sushi., 04 January 2014 - 11:45 PM.
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Heaven and Earth Deity
Posted 04 January 2014 - 11:53 PM
Lol. The number of the pages make you excited then the next minute you're bummed by them 
... I know this feeling.
Edited by T XD, 04 January 2014 - 11:56 PM.
Special Jounin
Posted 04 January 2014 - 11:56 PM
With shippuden about to start on toonami, i was thinking about some of the early episodes and they're pretty NS heavy. I mean the first few moments of the first episode is extremely NS heavy, its filled with Sakura feeling different, maybe a slight physical attraction to Naruto and Jiriya is there to comment and further develop the parallel between generations.
Heaven and Earth Deity
Posted 05 January 2014 - 12:12 AM
Yeah, though you would have thought a NH fanart. As if it to say, "Yes, this is a Hinata chapter, not mistaking' " but like I said, a random thought. Well, 615 is a bit mystery so either last big hurdle with anime overdoing it, or maybe a normal one. Either way, last one to go through.Don't they always choose the fanart depending on the mood of the chapter?
Also what do you think 615 and 631 are going to be like in the anime?
Heaven and Earth Deity
Posted 05 January 2014 - 12:13 AM
Yeah, there are some pretty heavy NS moments from anime in the beginning. After all, these are the guys that somehow made Immortal arc more fluff to NS. That's pretty impressive I must say.With shippuden about to start on toonami, i was thinking about some of the early episodes and they're pretty NS heavy. I mean the first few moments of the first episode is extremely NS heavy, its filled with Sakura feeling different, maybe a slight physical attraction to Naruto and Jiriya is there to comment and further develop the parallel between generations.
The man who's going to save the world.
Posted 05 January 2014 - 12:15 AM
With shippuden about to start on toonami, i was thinking about some of the early episodes and they're pretty NS heavy. I mean the first few moments of the first episode is extremely NS heavy, its filled with Sakura feeling different, maybe a slight physical attraction to Naruto and Jiriya is there to comment and further develop the parallel between generations.
I thought Naruto Shippuden was already being aired. Is this a new dub or something? What happened to the old one? Sorry if it's obvious I just don't pay any attention to the dubs.
"This hat means a lot to me. Promise me you'll give it back someday...
when you've become a great pirate." -Shanks
Heaven and Earth Deity
Posted 05 January 2014 - 12:22 AM
I hate when I think a chapter is long, then there are 4 pages of just fanart. XD Always in the end.
Worse is that it's on the begining and in the end aside from two pages of mangareader and their cover.
The man who's going to save the world.
Posted 05 January 2014 - 01:16 AM
Keep in mind that those websites are pirating manga. So, while it is human nature to seek improvement, I do not think that we have the right to complain in this case.
Edited by Branden, 05 January 2014 - 01:16 AM.
"This hat means a lot to me. Promise me you'll give it back someday...
when you've become a great pirate." -Shanks
Summoning Master
Posted 05 January 2014 - 04:21 AM
I agree - Hinata was certainly not the only side character getting spotlight during the war - a lot of them got moments, including Sai, Team 10, Neji, and Tsunade. The only thing Hinata has left to resolve with her character is the romance thread, so of course that's what Kishi is going to usually focus on when she's shown in part 2. I've always thought that NH and SS were about developing the girls' characters rather than developing a romantic relationship between the two, and the focus Hinata's gotten in the war just seems like Kishi tying up loose ends with her character in order to finish her development.
Though of course its just speculation at the moment - this could be building up to NH canon, but at the same time, I find it less likely than the alternative given chapters like 631 and 635.
It could have been, but the problem is that Naruto reaffirmed his feelings for Sakura in 631 and since the manga will soon end, if a pairing had to be canon at the end, it would be the right time for a character to lose his/her feelings for the one he/she loves. Oh wait! Isn’t it what is actually happening with Sakura?
I didn't say we should panic or anything..
I'm just saying that Kishi likes to interchange NS moments with NH/SS ones.. he's been doing this for quite a while now, so we should be ready for them in the future.Hinata hasn't given up on Naruto yet, and SS is not completely dead either, so don't count your chickens before they are hatched.
I really don’t understand why you say this. I read several posts of you where you say that Kishi keeps on giving us NS, NH, SS, NS, etc recently. But I don’t see it like this. I think you may see all this from a pairing perspective. When you say things like this, you make it look like Kishimoto is thinking about the word “pairing” while he’s doing a chapter with a “pairing” moment, you know like he were thinking “Oh, last time I did a NS moment, so now I’m going to do a NH one, and next one have to be a SS one.” In my opinion, there is no rule, if there was a rule like that, it would damage the story more than it already is, plus, we wouldn’t have the right to claim NS has more development than the other 2 anymore, since they would gain as much development.
I was talking about relevant things here, for example: the love-letter shinobi (SS) -> Hinata's speech + handholding (NH) -> girlfriend comment and parallel confirmation (NS) etc...
And if this is an example of what you mean, it convinces me that I disagree with you. The first one is only a Sakura moment to me, there is no interaction with Sasuke, plus it’s a negative moment. It’s a Sakura development moment. Then, the fact that there is a NH moment followed by a NS one is because it follows the storyline. Hinata was on the spotlight at the NH moment time, and then Sakura was healing Naruto when there was the NS moment.
I’m not sure if I explained my opinion well enough, but to be more clear, I just think Kishi didn’t do NS, NH, SS, NS, NH, SS purposely, he didn’t certainly thought about pairing while writing the moments, he was surely thinking about his story and about his character’s development.
Before the war, Kishi never did this thing you say, so I think he’s currently doing it without thinking about it, he does it because he’s trying to close as much character as possible. But the thing is that Hinata and Sakura are centered on the same theme, which is love, so of course it will look like pairing moment, but in fact, while Hinata’s character is being closed with Naruto’s acknowledgment, Sakura’s feelings for Sasuke are beginning to regress while her feelings for Naruto are highlighted, like her worrying constantly.
Hope you understand my point of view on this matter. 
I got you. I think you misunderstood me.
What I'm trying to say is that a moment is when there's reciprocation between two characters at least, and there's a development that already exists between the two that let us know that this a real moment.
Unless it means any interaction between two characters is labeled as a moment in a more general way.
Anyway, I don't think there's anything major for NH anymore except for simple interactions and, if any, Naruto rejecting Hinata at max. SS on the other hand will have some things from Sakura's part.
I agree, if Hinata doesn’t do anything soon, then it’s over for her, she’s meant to be rejected at the end if she doesn’t understand herself that Naruto loves someone else and that it’s not her place. But I more inclined toward a rejection option, because it would be too awkward if Naruto never reacted to her confession until the end. She’s too popular among the fans, even in Japan, for her confession to be ignored when it’s the most important thing she did (for her character, not for the storyline, for the storyline, I know it’s 615).
Genin
Posted 05 January 2014 - 04:32 AM
would it be possible that there would be no pairings at the end, that it would end up just like how they were at the beginning? without affirmation or rejection? like they will just be shown happily together...
Heaven and Earth Deity
Posted 05 January 2014 - 05:03 AM
Possible? Yes. Should happen? Hell no.would it be possible that there would be no pairings at the end, that it would end up just like how they were at the beginning? without affirmation or rejection? like they will just be shown happily together...
Special Jounin
Posted 05 January 2014 - 05:10 AM
I thought Naruto Shippuden was already being aired. Is this a new dub or something? What happened to the old one? Sorry if it's obvious I just don't pay any attention to the dubs.
They've been airing uncut naruto for awhile, but starting today they air uncut shippuden
Jounin
Posted 05 January 2014 - 05:39 AM
would it be possible that there would be no pairings at the end, that it would end up just like how they were at the beginning? without affirmation or rejection? like they will just be shown happily together...
Just kidding! XD
There SHOULD be pairings at the end so these pairing wars can end and so Naruto can get the girl of his dreams. Naruto getting getting Sakura to fall in love with him one of his... 'goals' isn't it? So why not have a pairing?
Elite Jounin
Posted 05 January 2014 - 05:45 AM
Heaven and Earth Deity
Posted 05 January 2014 - 05:47 AM
We have been winning for the past year but it's time to get the win.2014 could possibly be ns canon year, last year the 631 incident was our victory, now it's just a matter of time to see where that leads to.
Summoning Master
Posted 05 January 2014 - 05:57 AM
Second half of 2013 was full of NS teases, since chapter 628 where Sakura reappeared.
Genin
Posted 05 January 2014 - 06:02 AM
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Just kidding! XD
There SHOULD be pairings at the end so these pairing wars can end and so Naruto can get the girl of his dreams. Naruto getting getting Sakura to fall in love with him one of his... 'goals' isn't it? So why not have a pairing?
I just thought of it since naruto is not that kind of a guy who breaks someones heart and needed a lot of courage to tell his feelings...but I am not against the pairings... 
still an NS-shipper
Summoning Master
Posted 05 January 2014 - 06:19 AM
I just thought of it since naruto is not that kind of a guy who breaks someones heart and needed a lot of courage to tell his feelings...but I am not against the pairings...
Why always give Naruto an image of saint? And why would Hinata be heartbreaking if Naruto had to reject her? If she really loves him, she would understand that she can't force him to love her,especially when he already loves someone else and she would respect his feelings. And I can't picture Naruto having troubles to reject her confession. I can see him explaining her that he consider her as a friends but nothing more and that he already loves Sakura.
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