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[T XD]

I think too that the next Sakura moment will be a NS one. Possibly also a moment that is both a Sakura moment, if she's the one who will rescue Naruto and not Minato or Gaara, and a NS moment. We'll see.

Edited by T XD, 04 January 2014 - 07:20 PM.

[sushi.]

You're definielty not alone in this! :) I'm certain that NaruSaku 2014 will be a legit thing. 

What is NS 2014? One week each month? Saw it on tumblr, but haven't payed much attention I guess.

Agreed...we shouldnt be worry whether ns is gonna happen or not...bcuz it will..

Either way I wouldn't worry. I remember finding this site long ago, while googling "will Naruto and Sakura end up together?". lol XD

Now I'm more chill and unconcerned, never questioning that. Maybe it is because my interest has decreased or because it's not much of a mystery anymore.

I don't know why but I truly feel that this is the year for NS. Not necessarily on the next chapter, but I just feel it.

Me too. Considering the timing, and when I think certain events will happen, I think the NS moments are in there. The confession might be next year though, or late this year. Depends if it's in the war or the famous bench.

Edited by sushi., 04 January 2014 - 07:24 PM.

[T XD]

Me too. Considering the timing, and when I think certain events will happen, I think the NS moments are in there. The confession might be next year though, or late this year. Depends if it's in the war or the famous bench.

Or before, during, or after the final battle against Sasuke with the famous bench, concerning her forehead, before or after the final battle or after this war XD

[sushi.]

Or before, during, or after the final battle against Sasuke with the famous bench, concerning her forehead, before or after the final battle or after this war XD

Yes, they'll have some sort of a goodbye(for now) conversation, much like the one between JiraTsu. I hope she says "come back to me".

 

If Naruto is near death next chapter I wouldn't be surprised if they blurted at least something out of impulse. But I still want a new bench scene, too.

[TouKen4Life3g]

You should somewhat blame me on NS 2014 part. My first post of new year is telling them that the year of NS is here and boom, it spreads fast. Now it's going around. When I think about it, we had buildups from last year, now it's time to go 450 x100.

[Paptala]

 

Terrific post, as usual.  

 

The only thing I'd add is that, depending upon the translation, three people have indicated Naruto loves Sakura.  This panel is from volume 1, chapter 3 from the official English version:

 

 

He was henged as Sasuke at the time, and didn't say it out loud, but Naruto is pretty clear on what he feels. ^_^

Thanks!    Ah, how could I have forgotten that Naruto himself said it - and he used the same term Sai and Sakura used in 457/459 ("suki") so I think its pretty safe to count it.  Of course, detractors always argue that it's outdated but when those same detractors twist 457 into Naruto letting go of his romantic feelings for Sakura and 631 into a joke, I really can't take them all that seriously.

 

Now I got NS feels again...

Heehee   I'm getting all sorts of NS feels from all of the NS 2014 buzz on tumblr

 

I actually find it somewhat ridiculous that Naruto is the only character with an interest in someone (out of Sakura, Hinata, etc.) that fans try to claim is not in love simply because he's never said it. It's been developed the entire course of the manga. Actions can speak louder than words, he shouldn't need to. It's going to happen at some point in this manga, it was foreshadowed. But it doesn't mean it isn't already obvious. Fans argue "Hinata loves Naruto" "Sakura loves Sasuke" so why is it that Naruto is suddenly the exception? He's the main character. His romantic attentions should be clear at this point.

 

I've always found the most obvious piece of evidence that is undeniable was his reaction to Sakura's confession. He for a slight second did believe her words until he started adding the weirdness of the situation up and then denied her  loving him entirely. Naruto was not uncomfortable or even calm in sorting out her true intentions. As Sakura continued to express she loved him, Naruto got angry at her "lie". He had no reason to be angry at her unless he felt some extent of romantic love.

 

In reality, fans will believe what they want. But at least when Naruto confesses his love to Sakura they won't be able to deny the truth anymore.

I completely agree - Naruto's feelings are obvious, always have been since chapter 3.  I think the "Naruto's not in love with Sakura unless he flat out says it!" argument to be laughable, especially when these are almost always the same people arguing Naruto is clearly in love with Hinata now from his actions.  So, he only has to say he's in love when it comes to Sakura, apparently

 

If and when Naruto does confess to Sakura, you can bet people will still be trying to twist it into something platonic (I can see comparisons to Kushina telling Naruto "I love you" or Itachi telling Sasuke, "I love you").

 

good points . Humm i think we have flashbacks of narutos crush on sakura havent we. So we cant say its 5 years may be he had a crush before that.

I ve tried that they say then why did kishi bring hinata in to it why give her special moments like in chunin exam,pain arc, even in the recent war . As kishi has given her those moments the resolution would be nh canon. I said that was just to make the story more dramatic. But they didnt agree. I said that narutos feelings for sakura is far more devloped but they didnt agree so i left the conversation

Thanks - and we know he liked her upon her introduction, but I don't think there were any flashbacks of Naruto crushing on her before that.  The only NS flashback we get is during the Gaara fight and that was after they had joined Team 7.  All we know is that he liked her sometime before they graduated from the academy.  Hopefully, we'll get a flashback of little Naruto and Sakura at some point - I would love to see the origin of Naruto's feelings for her!

 

 

I don’t think Kishi made all those Hinata moment in the war to bring more drama in her character. He did that to close her character as a side character in my opinion. If you look the War Arc in an objective view, you will see that Hinata is not the only one who got the spotlight. Every side character got its closure. Ino, Shikamaru and Choji with Asuma and their father, Neji with Naruto, Hinata and his uncle (somewhat), and Hinata with Naruto and Neji. You see the common point between those closure, each of them concern the most important bond in their side character story. During her important moment in chapter 615, it wasn’t a romantic moment, it was her closure moment, she wanted to be useful to Naruto (chapter  559) and what did she do in 615 ? She helped him when he was on the verge of surrender.

 

I really don’t understand all those proclamation of romantic chapter for 615, the only thing that could have been romantic was the handholding, but even there, we see at the end of the chapter that Naruto is transferring his chakra to Hinata and in the next chapter, he instantly release her hand and began to grab every character’s hand to do the same. So at the end, it wasn’t romantic, at least on Naruto’s side, it was just a friendship moment.  

 

So my advice is to not pay attention to those who say the War Arc was focused on Hinata. It was focused on side character with a little more on Hinata and InShikaCho.

But next Arc will surely be focused on Team 7, which means Sakura (and Naruto and Sasuke), and I’m sure that at this point the Hinata deal will be over. I don’t know why but I smell a rejection coming at the end of this War Arc, and it’s on our favor. 

I agree - Hinata was certainly not the only side character getting spotlight during the war - a lot of them got moments, including Sai, Team 10, Neji, and Tsunade.  The only thing Hinata has left to resolve with her character is the romance thread, so of course that's what Kishi is going to usually focus on when she's shown in part 2.  I've always thought that NH and SS were about developing the girls' characters rather than developing a romantic relationship between the two, and the focus Hinata's gotten in the war just seems like Kishi tying up loose ends with her character in order to finish her development.

 

Though of course its just speculation at the moment - this could be building up to NH canon, but at the same time, I find it less likely than the alternative given chapters like 631 and 635.

 

I meant what if we see Hinata next chapter... Pain Arc v.2

While NS stuff seems far more likely given the build up from the Rescue Gaara arc (among other things), I'm not ruling out this possibility either.  There really wasn't much buildup for 614/615 or 437.  But at least with 437 we got her constantly worrying before throwing herself in (and this time, we've seen Sakura worrying more about Naruto, both during the war in general and about the extraction in particular before), and with 615 there was Hinata's speech from 573 to foreshadow it.

 

I don't really see anything to foreshadow major involvement from Hinata here this time, but who knows with Kishi - Hinata's gotten involved majorly when Naruto's life has been in danger the last two times.

[T XD]

Yes, they'll have some sort of a goodbye(for now) conversation, much like the one between JiraTsu. I hope she says "come back to me".

 

If Naruto is near death next chapter I wouldn't be surprised if they blurted at least something out of impulse. But I still want a new bench scene, too.

Yeah, maybe they'll say something, especially Naruto since he thought before that he doesn't want to regret anything anymore when he has the chance to say and do.

 

New bench scene ? Possibly. New bench scene ---> New parallel/s... Why not considering Kishi has somewhat a fetish for parallels XD

Edited by T XD, 04 January 2014 - 08:25 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I got to disagree with Hinata's part in your post, Paptala. For Pain Arc, it was all about the village association to Naruto, so we got to have how Naruto changes to many of them, with the village as a whole, Kakashi, Shikamaru, Hinata, Tsunade, Konohamaru, adults like Shikamaru's dad, and of course Sakura.

As for 614/615, while we didn't get much of buildup, hence rushed, we did have her talking about once and for all, standing same ground aka hand holding, so that must be dealt with. Luckily, we did. Now then, what is it that she wants from him? Easy: nothing. Sakura still have few more to deal with Naruto and this is one of them. The most Hinata can get is grouped up with others as in supporting.

[Akashi]

While NS stuff seems far more likely given the build up from the Rescue Gaara arc (among other things), I'm not ruling out this possibility either.  There really wasn't much buildup for 614/615 or 437.  But at least with 437 we got her constantly worrying before throwing herself in (and this time, we've seen Sakura worrying more about Naruto, both during the war in general and about the extraction in particular before), and with 615 there was Hinata's speech from 573 to foreshadow it.

 

I don't really see anything to foreshadow major involvement from Hinata here this time, but who knows with Kishi - Hinata's gotten involved majorly when Naruto's life has been in danger the last two times.

Yep. I think we're going to see at lest few more NH/SS moments, especially when we don't expect to see them at all! Kishi loves this kind of trolling. It's always HN/SS followed by NS followed by NH/SS and so on..... the tension will grow as we move to the end of the series.

I'm pretty sure that we're going to have a NS moment soon, but I don't think it will be something super big. A lot of things still need to be explained/dealt-with until Kishi reveals the final pairing.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yep. I think we're going to see at lest few more NH/SS moments, especially when we don't expect to see them at all! Kishi loves this kind of trolling. It's always HN/SS followed by NS followed by NH/SS and so on..... the tension will grow as we move to the end of the series.

I'm pretty sure that we're going to have a NS moment soon, but I don't think it will be something super big. A lot of things still need to be explained/dealt-with until Kishi reveals the final pairing.

Like what? If you ask me, NH is done, SS is almost closing with Sakura's "smile" to kick-off and NS is still growing and I didn't think it was possible without going to Naruto vs Sasuke topic. So I don't know, but I feel like we have nothing to fear at all.

[Akashi]

Like what? If you ask me, NH is done, SS is almost closing with Sakura's "smile" to kick-off and NS is still growing and I didn't think it was possible without going to Naruto vs Sasuke topic. So I don't know, but I feel like we have nothing to fear at all.

I didn't say we should panic or anything..
I'm just saying that Kishi likes to interchange NS moments with NH/SS ones.. he's been doing this for quite a while now, so we should be ready for them in the future.

Hinata hasn't given up on Naruto yet, and SS is not completely dead either, so don't count your chickens before they are hatched.

[sushi.]

Like what? If you ask me, NH is done, SS is almost closing with Sakura's "smile" to kick-off and NS is still growing and I didn't think it was possible without going to Naruto vs Sasuke topic. So I don't know, but I feel like we have nothing to fear at all.

Me too. I was convinced in 633. Hinata wants to be at Naruto's side, too. Just like everyone else...in the same way as the other rookies. Regardless of her feelings for him, I think she wants nothing more than that. Her smile in 450 also supports this.

 

SS will probably be over soon too. Not only because Sakura doesn't trust Sasuke. Mainly because they haven't put any effort to restore that trust, and repair their bond.

[T XD]

Like what? If you ask me, NH is done, SS is almost closing with Sakura's "smile" to kick-off and NS is still growing and I didn't think it was possible without going to Naruto vs Sasuke topic. So I don't know, but I feel like we have nothing to fear at all.

Yup. There's nothing. Interactions don't always count as moments when it's simple talk like when a character is expected to talk to or think of another character. Like Sakura and Sasuke cause they're part of Team 7 and Sakura is in the process to finish up with her lingering feelings for Sasuke. So, of course, they will have to interact and Sakura has to think about Sasuke in that matter.

 

Moment is when there's truly something to be taken into count.

Edited by T XD, 04 January 2014 - 09:13 PM.

[Akashi]

Yup. There's nothing. Interactions don't always count as moments when it's simple talk like when a character is expected to talk to another character. Like Sakura and Sasuke cause they're part of Team 7 and Sakura is in the process to finish up with her lingering feelings for Sasuke. So, of course, they will have to interact in part and Sakura has to think about Sasuke in that matter in another part.

 

Moments when there's truly something to be taken into count.

I was talking about relevant things here, for example: the love-letter shinobi (SS) -> Hinata's speech + handholding (NH) -> girlfriend comment and parallel confirmation (NS) etc...

[Dalton.T.R]

SasuSaku anyone?

 

SasuSaku?

It seems about right...

[TouKen4Life3g]

I was talking about relevant things here, for example: the love-letter shinobi (SS) -> Hinata's speech + handholding (NH) -> girlfriend comment and parallel confirmation (NS) etc...

The problem is Hinata is literally done. You only get a group line, not a solo "Only I can do it" line. It's done and that's it. I mean don't you think 649 scenes should have work better with Hinata, not Sakura? No matter what, there's no excuse. The whole SS fiasco is building up for Sakura to end it all and move on. Of course we will get an interaction or two but why not, they're human. There's no law to say, "two opposite sex can only talk to each other if they're targeting for love." I understand your current standing with this and I respect that, but for me, I'm done.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 04 January 2014 - 09:45 PM.

[tricksie]

I was talking about relevant things here, for example: the love-letter shinobi (SS) -> Hinata's speech + handholding (NH) -> girlfriend comment and parallel confirmation (NS) etc...

Yep, completely agree. Kishi has a pattern going. NH and SS aren't done yet not because of the feelings of the characters are resolved, but because Kishi still has a need to drive up reader suspense. The pairing strife will continue until the very end for suspense purposes, and I'm fully expecting an all-is-lost moment for NS before Kishi resolves it.

[T XD]

I was talking about relevant things here, for example: the love-letter shinobi (SS) -> Hinata's speech + handholding (NH) -> girlfriend comment and parallel confirmation (NS) etc...

I got you. I think you misunderstood me.

 

What I'm trying to say is that a moment is when there's reciprocation between two characters at least, and there's a development that already exists between the two that let us know that this a real moment.

 

Unless it means any interaction between two characters is labeled as a moment in a more general way.

 

Anyway, I don't think there's anything major for NH anymore except for simple interactions and, if any, Naruto rejecting Hinata at max. SS on the other hand will have some things from Sakura's part.

Edited by T XD, 04 January 2014 - 10:36 PM.

[redragon88]

Yep, completely agree. Kishi has a pattern going. NH and SS aren't done yet not because of the feelings of the characters are resolved, but because Kishi still has a need to drive up reader suspense. The pairing strife will continue until the very end for suspense purposes, and I'm fully expecting an all-is-lost moment for NS before Kishi resolves it.

 

SS definitely needs to get resolved, but what more is there for NH?

 

Chapter 615 was literally the climax of Hinata's desire when it comes to Naruto. She was of help to him and holded his hand. She can't go any higher than that. It's not about pretending to be confident, it's that literally there's no more foreshadowing regarding her importances.

 

In the beginning it was all about Hinata wanting to confess, after she confessed it was about Naruto addressing her actions, after he addressed them it was about Hinata wanting to be there for Naruto, after she was there in 615 there was no more build up implied. It ended right there.

 

Now the only thing Hinata wants is to be by his side, which as we say with Shikamaru saying it too, was not meant to be taken romantically. Hinata wants to support Naruto, just like everyone else, and she liking him is her own problem.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Random thoughts: funny how mangapanda used a Hinata picture only for 615 yet when there's like 631 and for some reason 635, there's a NS picture. Again, random.