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#12601 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:12 AM

QUOTE (Sojobo @ Mar 14 2013, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Of course Sasuke will not be the one who will help Sakura to realize her feelings for Naruto (I would rather say Sai), but those panels :

The fear to see Naruto's hurt or dead.
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Maam : That's it... I've been looking at him ...like that.
That's why he wa trying to be strong...


Making difference about 2 sort of love.

Of course, it will not be the exact same scenario, but I think it can give us some hints on how NS will become canon.

When I read this, I can easily imagine the same words coming from Sakura.


Maam : You've been hurt... and sad...all those times because of me. (after realizing that he's in love with her)
Sakura : I'm the one who caused him th emost pain. (after realizing that he's in love with her)

I really liked Poppu's confession, and I hope it will be something like this for Naruto.


Does that really matter ?
I'm not talking about "copying someone else work", I'm talking about insipiration.
And it's obvious that Kishimoto was inspirated by the pairing story between Poppu, Maam, Hyunkel, Merle and Aimi.
I never said that it happened exactly the same in Naruto, I just say that there are some obvious parallels.

I think this scenario already blow up with sakura's confession, this scenario is unlikely to happen it will be MinaKushi all over again.

they are not even main characters.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 15 March 2013 - 01:13 AM.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:17 AM

I gotta agree with sojobo here, they are so strikingly similar that it's scary.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:18 AM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 15 2013, 02:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
they are not even main characters.

Are you talking about Poppu and Maam ?
Cause THEY ARE the main characters with Dai, Hyunkel and Crocodine.
Leona is just the princess and doesn't make often appareance in the manga.
She's an important character, but I don't think you can qualify her as "main character" because of the lack of her apparitions compared to our heroes.

The whole story is about Dai, Poppu and Maam.
I suggest you to read it, it really is a good Shonen. (even if first chapters are pretty old)
Maybe you will understand me better with this.

Edited by Sojobo, 15 March 2013 - 01:23 AM.


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:23 AM

Is there anything to suggest that Kishimoto may have been influenced by Dragon Quest, other than the statement that he's been inspired by a number of mangas?
The similarities really are striking in this case, though.


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:25 AM

okey first thing whats up with dai and leona which manga is it ? can anyone tell me. and darkerest why do you think that the scence is blown up it ll be a good try though.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:28 AM

Well, Kishi loves the movie How to Train Your Dragon and of you saw the movie, you'll know what kind of romance it went through. That's just me.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:29 AM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Mar 15 2013, 02:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is there anything to suggest that Kishimoto may have been influenced by Dragon Quest, other than the statement that he's been inspired by a number of mangas?
The similarities really are striking in this case, though.

He only said he was inspired by Slam Dunk and Dragon Ball (have to find this old interview).
It makes sense for Slam Dunk about pairing :


The hero loves the girl
The girl loves the bad boy
The bad boy loves... Basket Ball.

But Dragon Quest is closer too Kishimoto's pairing story, because we have side characters like Merle and Aima who are taking part in the Love Triangle.
And Maam realizing her feelings for him, Merle's sacrifice and confession, a girl who's in love with two men, a man who wants to have revenge and fall into darkness, and so...
Those subjects were all used in Naruto' love story.
That's why I think that Kishimoto was more inspired by Dragon Quest FOR HIS PAIRING STORY.



He also said that one of his favorite movies were the Star Wars SAGA. This explains Obito and Sasuke turning into vilains.

QUOTE (narulsaku @ Mar 15 2013, 02:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
okey first thing whats up with dai and leona which manga is it ? can anyone tell me. and darkerest why do you think that the scence is blown up it ll be a good try though.

Like I said, it's from Dragon Quest, but darkerest think that it is because Poppu isn't main hero (even if he is the second most important main character in the manga) that parallel or insipiration for Naruto doesn't count.
And like I said, he was inspired by the pairing story between Poppu, Maam, Hyunkel, Aimi and Merle.
I don't see what the "main character argument" has to do with that.

Edited by Sojobo, 15 March 2013 - 01:37 AM.


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:37 AM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 14 2013, 06:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think this scenario already blow up with sakura's confession, this scenario is unlikely to happen it will be MinaKushi all over again.

they are not even main characters.

Care to expand on this?
And what does it matter that they aren't the main characters? A parallel does not require identical character roles.

-edit- ^What she said 111193.gif

Edited by Baguette, 15 March 2013 - 01:38 AM.


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:43 AM

QUOTE (Baguette @ Mar 15 2013, 08:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is there anything to suggest that Kishimoto may have been influenced by Dragon Quest, other than the statement that he's been inspired by a number of mangas?
The similarities really are striking in this case, though.


yes but not the manga but the GAME. he is fan of dragon quest. plus akira toriyama who desing the character.

@sojobo :

slam dunk basiccally serve as his blueprint for love triangle between unriqueted love sakuragi and haruka.

Edited by rocci, 15 March 2013 - 01:45 AM.


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:44 AM

its a strong parallel and very likely. marms speech about not knowing her feleings but wanting to carry them through and try anyways is very similar to Sakuras and could be altered by her coming to a relaization about the bench scene.
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Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:52 AM

QUOTE (catsi563 @ Mar 15 2013, 02:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
its a strong parallel and very likely. marms speech about not knowing her feleings but wanting to carry them through and try anyways is very similar to Sakuras and could be altered by her coming to a relaization about the bench scene.

And Merle knowing all the time that Poppu loves Maam. Reminds me the hug scene in Naruto where you can see Hinata smiling without saying anything.
And her speech about stop chasing after Naruto when the War ends.


Merle and Hinata stalked the one they loved all the time, so they know everything about them.
Would make sens that Hinata already knew about Naruto's love for Sakura.


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:12 AM

QUOTE (Sojobo @ Mar 15 2013, 08:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And Merle knowing all the time that Poppu loves Maam. Reminds me the hug scene in Naruto where you can see Hinata smiling without saying anything.
And her speech about stop chasing after Naruto when the War ends.


Merle and Hinata stalked the one they loved all the time, so they know everything about them.
Would make sens that Hinata already knew about Naruto's love for Sakura.

so what even knowing their love interests hinata and merle didnt stop chasing the one they love.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:15 AM

QUOTE (narulsaku @ Mar 14 2013, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
so what even knowing their love interests hinata and merle didnt stop chasing the one they love.


The guy in dragonquest though still loved maam even after her confession, he even yells it out.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:55 AM

wow @Sojobo Nice find!! The similarities really are striking there! there is no way that Kishi hasn't been inspired by this manga, the pairing structure are frightfully alike. I can really see Naruto confessing to Sakura that way. But I do hope that Naruto and Sakura got a conclusion of their feelings instead of a open ending (even if it's implied they eventually will be together in the future). biggrin.gif

The only thing that bothers me when I find that type of similarities between different mangas is because we don't know which couple Kishimoto sympathized , which means if he wants .. he can change which couples will become canon even if they have the same type of development. (even though it looks like he's indeed following to a ending similar to DQ)

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:22 AM

I just saw the Dragon quest confession part
and that literally satisfied my narusaku feels....for like a month XD

i just imagined naruto as the dude...and sakura as the chick and it was easy XD

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:39 AM

Wow, Dragon Quest is so NaruSaku it's scary!
I wonder if Kishimoto really was inspired by this, parallels, parallels everywhere. XD

Btw, aren't the Kizuna books released today? Any info about those?

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:07 AM

@Sojobo

Saw your posts about Dragon Quest..... whoa.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 06:39 AM

Wow ... just saw those Dragon Quest comparisions and I'm in shock. ohmy.gif Sojobo, you're so right! That confession scene between Maam and Pop was so much like NaruSaku, it's ridiculous. I could do easily picture the NS confession going down exactly like that. Especially the near-kiss and how Maam got pissed at Pop for tricking her like that, calling him an idiot, so NS! laugh.gif And the Merle/Hinata comparision ... strikingly similiar, Hinata said a lot of stuff similiar to that. Except she actually said "I love you" and if Hinata really dies risking her life for Naruto, I can't see her telling him to say who he loved though.

The Hyunkel scene was less strong, since I don't picture Sasuke being that nice telling her something like that. XD But when he turns good, if Sasuke lives, I can see him telling her to forget about him and realize she loves Naruto (maybe not that word for word, but similiar). He'd just be a lot more abrupt and rude with it. rolleyes.gif

Really nice parallels! I suddenly want to get into Dragon Quest, it seems interesting. biggrin.gif

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 07:00 AM

I can't stop reading that Dragon quest confession chapter, It give me so many NaruSaku feels!!!! wub.gif

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 07:00 AM

Great job, Sojobo.

Hm, maybe that's why people in Japan doesn't think NS is in trouble and see it as an endgame.




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