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#12581 BlueStarSaber

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 11:12 PM

Funny, I found this trope on tv tropes

It's called the main/cherry blossom girl typically in various Japanese animations

Under this trope there are common traits they have, typically needing at least 3 of these traits but they can have more

-being named sakura or ouka or anything that involves sakura trees
-pink hair
-themes of spring, rebirth, or death

-themes of luck or fate
-healing powers
-being a love interest or associated with love
-being born in early springtime

-Yamato nadeshiko traditional Japanese elements such as Japanese tea ceremony ninja and samurai

Well how many if these traits fall onto sakura now?

 

All the ones that are bolded for sure, not sure about the luck and fate or all of the last one but if their are then everything


Edited by BlueStarSaber, 02 January 2014 - 11:13 PM.


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Posted 02 January 2014 - 11:20 PM

If anything, Kishi did do one thing great, he designed sakura with a good set of themes under this archetype

Her name being sakura
Pink hair
Healing powers gained during timeskip
Born march 28th
Is the love interest for naruto
Likewise many if Sakura's actions have been both motivated and driven by love romantic or otherwise,

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 11:21 PM

Funny, I found this trope n tv tropes

It's called the main/cherry blossom girl typically in various Japanese animations

Under this trope there are common traits they have, typically needing at least 3 of these traits but they can have more

-being named sakura or ouka or anything that involves sakura trees
-pink hair
-themes of spring, rebirth, or death
-themes of luck or fate
-healing powers
-being a love interest or associated with love
-being born in early springtime
-Yamato nadeshiko traditional Japanese elements such as Japanese tea ceremony ninja and samurai

Well how many if these traits fall into sakura now?

 

Some of them. The bolded would easily embody Sakura's character and her role in the manga. Italicized and bolded are somewhat accurate. In terms of symbolism strictly related to the manga, Sakura would represent the flora that share her name. I don't recall trees ever being a facet of her representation. You could say that the temporary nature of her role in fights symbolises the ephemerality associated with the blossom in Japanese culture.  


Edited by Atheck, 02 January 2014 - 11:58 PM.


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Posted 02 January 2014 - 11:48 PM

For some reason, this doesn't strike me as the near death exp that will push Sakura over. It didn't even feel like Naruto was going to die, perhaps because it was built up and Kurama seems to have a plan. 

 

I think there will be a near death exp when he fights Madara or more likely Sasuke.

 

Than again, this could very well be the moment and the next chapter starts with Sakura's reaction. I don't think she will use the revitalization jutsu, just sob over him (something similar to THE OVA) 



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Posted 03 January 2014 - 01:11 AM

Hey guys, I've been a long time fan of the couple and I love the site. But I have to ask: given the current state In the manga, does this couple still have a shot at being canon? Just curious.

 

NaruSaku has always been the pairing that the story pushes for it to become canon. It focuses on Sakura's changing feelings when it comes to Naruto and how they conflict with the feelings she has for Sasuke. Following logical story telling it's supposed to climax with Sakura's acceptance that her feelings for Sasuke weren't the true love that she actually came to feel for Naruto.

 

And if we want to be blunt just look at 631, not only did it reinforce the fact that Naruto still likes Sakura by referring to her as his girlfriend, but also fulfilled the long awaited foreshadowing that Kushina made as she died for Naruto to find a girl like her. And the comparison came from Minato, Kushina's husband. We couldn't ask for a better person to do the comment.

 

Naruto has always liked Sakura, despite what people say about Hinata, and 631 simply brought those that doubted it back to reality. So either Naruto ends up with Sakura, or there are no pairings at all. And considering that Kishi goes out of his way to fulfill foreshadowing regardings wishes for girlfriends I don't see why he wouldn't want to end the series with Naruto and Sakura accepting their feelings for each other.

 

Does Sakura even have any excess life force to give? She's not like Tsunade or Karin who are both gifted with extraordinary longevity because of their ties to the Uzumaki Clan. Any tampering with her vital energy will irreparably shorten her life expectancy (she probably already has a shorter time to live compared to Naruto). If she chose to use that jutsu then it might be more pragmatic to use Karin or Tsunade's life force as the supply rather than her own. 

 

You refer to the life transfer jutsu? Chiyo did need Naruto's help in order to revive Gaara, but I just put that on her being old and also tired after the battle with Sasori.

 

We would need more details. Like knowing if certain people need more "life chakra" than others in order to revive. If Naruto knew that jutsu do you think he could revive regular people without dying because of his great life force?

 

Funny, I found this trope on tv tropes

It's called the main/cherry blossom girl typically in various Japanese animations

Under this trope there are common traits they have, typically needing at least 3 of these traits but they can have more

-being named sakura or ouka or anything that involves sakura trees
-pink hair
-themes of spring, rebirth, or death

-themes of luck or fate
-healing powers
-being a love interest or associated with love
-being born in early springtime

-Yamato nadeshiko traditional Japanese elements such as Japanese tea ceremony ninja and samurai

Well how many if these traits fall onto sakura now?

 

Her name is Sakura, she has pink hair, she blossomed (which happens in spring, being reborn) during the forest of death and recently again with the byakugo, she heals, is a love interest, was born in spring.

 

Kishi probably had this trope in mind when creating her story.


Edited by redragon88, 03 January 2014 - 01:17 AM.


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Posted 03 January 2014 - 03:01 AM

Does Sakura even have any excess life force to give? She's not like Tsunade or Karin who are both gifted with extraordinary longevity because of their ties to the Uzumaki Clan. Any tampering with her vital energy will irreparably shorten her life expectancy (she probably already has a shorter time to live compared to Naruto). If she chose to use that jutsu then it might be more pragmatic to use Karin or Tsunade's life force as the supply rather than her own. 


Ok let her vital force be weak she can use the seal. Strength of a hundred seal. That can help her to get more chakra and she can heal naruto


For some reason, this doesn't strike me as the near death exp that will push Sakura over. It didn't even feel like Naruto was going to die, perhaps because it was built up and Kurama seems to have a plan. 
 
I think there will be a near death exp when he fights Madara or more likely Sasuke.
 
Than again, this could very well be the moment and the next chapter starts with Sakura's reaction. I don't think she will use the revitalization jutsu, just sob over him (something similar to THE OVA) 
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Hum u might be right who the hell knows what ll happen! But i also think that if kurama gets extarcted naruto defenitly wont die nearly death. So there sakura can show her magic. But i also think that it should happen in naurto vs sasuke battle that ll lead towards confirm NS.

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Posted 03 January 2014 - 03:34 AM

You know, I kind of hope that if Naruto does die that Sakura holds her emotions in until after the fight with Madara. I don't think we need any more NS moments, especially after 631. I think at this point what really matters is Sakura's character development and how serious of a threat Madara is.


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Posted 03 January 2014 - 06:10 AM

Hey i still say 631 caused a deep scaring upon the nh fandom, it's been 7 months since the big impact took place and many fans arguing against ns still try to ignore it and say it's just a joke, nothing notable or important, or this is not link able to the Kushina stuff at all despite the clear notification. Many sadly think Kishi goes out of his way to do the pairing stuff when he doesn't, and then we get the real bad cases like Swayer, forneverworld, or especially vj and commander kurama who think nh is just going to happen and that sakura should just be ignored like she isn't important and that all should treat hinata as somehow much critically more important when she isn't.

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Posted 03 January 2014 - 09:16 AM

Hey i still say 631 caused a deep scaring upon the nh fandom, it's been 7 months since the big impact took place and many fans arguing against ns still try to ignore it and say it's just a joke, nothing notable or important, or this is not link able to the Kushina stuff at all despite the clear notification. Many sadly think Kishi goes out of his way to do the pairing stuff when he doesn't, and then we get the real bad cases like Swayer, forneverworld, or especially vj and commander kurama who think nh is just going to happen and that sakura should just be ignored like she isn't important and that all should treat hinata as somehow much critically more important when she isn't.

I think we can all agree that Hinata is a side character. That's the reason that she isn't the one summoning giant slugs or spamming rasengans. In terms of major events for her character there was her fight with Neji, her confession, and 615. That's it. The people who are saying Hinata should be focused on more are the same people who think Hinata is more than just a side character. Once you adopt that mindset then there's nothing other people can do to convince you otherwise. I could argue that she's no more important than the rest of the rookies but they could just say they disagree and they aren't wrong since it's an opinion so nothing is accomplished.

 

When dealing with NH fans it's important to demand signs that Naruto is truly in love with Hinata. He's not, and the manga has made this obvious. Even if NaruSaku didn't exist or if Sakura died, there still isn't enough development between Naruto and Hinata for them to fall in love. Hinata really doesn't know Naruto that well. She's watched him for a long time but watching somebody and going up to talk with them are two completely different things. You cannot get to know somebody and truly fall in love with them just by watching them. As for Naruto, it's the same. He knows almost nothing about her. He's really only spoke to her a handful of times and hasn't shown consistent signs of being attracted to her.

 

Almost all romance in Naruto can be interpreted one way or another so it's natural that as biased fans we'll shift the interpretations in our favor. That said, any reasonable person would recognize that if they do this too often then they are only blinding themselves.

 

All that is without even mentioning that Naruto is already in love with Sakura, and that Sakura is still trying to figure out her feelings towards Naruto. That's not even something you can argue with, it's been confirmed by the databooks. There's also countless interactions between them and numerous demonstrations of their care for each other. You could mention the parallels, but I think at this point the parallels don't really matter. Sure they are beneficial to us but the real reason why NS will be canon is because of the development.

 

On a final note, you have to keep all the events throughout the manga in mind while looking at something so controversial. It's easy to focus on recent events, but most of the important stuff has already happened and at this point we are all just waiting for the ending to confirm our theories and speculations.


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Posted 03 January 2014 - 10:14 AM

I agree with the the fact that Naruto won't die or even come close to death. We all saw Kushina survive after having Kurama forcefully torn from her. She still had the strength to Assist Minato is sealing Kurama into Naruto. I guess Naruto could be the same too. Your views ?!

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Posted 03 January 2014 - 10:34 AM

While hoping for ns to be canon..kishi needs to show more sakura power...and the history of her own family background....cause its weird, we knows less about her compare to naruto and sasuke...she's a heroine...yes, shes just a normal girl...which makes me curious even more....kishi.. please
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Posted 03 January 2014 - 11:05 AM

While hoping for ns to be canon..kishi needs to show more sakura power...and the history of her own family background....cause its weird, we knows less about her compare to naruto and sasuke...she's a heroine...yes, shes just a normal girl...which makes me curious even more....kishi.. please

 

There is no background. I admit that I was also intrigued before RTN but now we know where she comes from: a normal family with no particularity. Her parents are just normal chuunins and from what Sakura said, her father is not even a good ninja. And her mother said that Sakura was the first of their clan to impress enough to be able to become a jonin. So from this statment from her mother, there is really no background in her family. 


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Posted 03 January 2014 - 12:01 PM

Well...whatver it is, having a background or no background, sakura should have some kind of unrevealed story during her past or something exclude the inosaku moment...which make her diferent than the others,..that would be interesting to know...
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Posted 03 January 2014 - 12:10 PM

I just hoping that this year would be the sakura turn to shine during the war, like having her solofight again...without naruto or sasuke help....we need more badasss sakura!! I meant it...

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Posted 03 January 2014 - 12:27 PM

Kishimoto has turned Sakura into a doctor. That means we will get little to no fights. Instead she'll sit in the backround keeping everyone alive.

 

Is it a crucial role that  is needed in battle? Yes. Does it give Sakura any shining moments? No. This is why I would have greatly prefered Sakura to be an all out fighter and had somebody else be a medic. To be honest I doubt Sakura will get any fights. Assistance is the most you can hope for.


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Posted 03 January 2014 - 01:36 PM

We won't have the telling of Sakura's family background. There isn't much to say. She's from a normal family who Sakura was the first to come out successful in becoming a capable ninja with great healing abilities. That's all. Being a heroine doesn't mean it's a must for a full fledged background. Some basic information are enough, and for Sakura, she doesn't have anything to be told more than that.

 

Kishimoto has turned Sakura into a doctor. That means we will get little to no fights. Instead she'll sit in the backround keeping everyone alive.

 

Is it a crucial role that  is needed in battle? Yes. Does it give Sakura any shining moments? No. This is why I would have greatly prefered Sakura to be an all out fighter and had somebody else be a medic. To be honest I doubt Sakura will get any fights. Assistance is the most you can hope for.

Assistance at times and fighting at other times, or at the same time, is what I think.

 

She assisted numerous times, but she fights sometimes when she wants to or when help is needed. She didn't had that much of big fights, but she assists when fights happen not only by healing, but by combat too. She's a medic ninja, so her priority is healing, but she's allowed to fight when she has to, and with the seal which let's her fight whenever she wants. But, still, healing comes first. It's her job.

 

So, a doctor giving healing assistance and that's it, I don't think so from what the manga had shown me. It's someone who both assists and fights.


Edited by T XD, 03 January 2014 - 01:40 PM.


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Posted 03 January 2014 - 01:58 PM

I dont know if any of you are a fan of the kingdom hearts series but I just realized narusaku parallels Sora and Kairi, and Sasuke parallels Riku.

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Posted 03 January 2014 - 03:11 PM

^East Coast Story telling brah 



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Posted 03 January 2014 - 04:28 PM

I dont know if any of you are a fan of the kingdom hearts series but I just realized narusaku parallels Sora and Kairi, and Sasuke parallels Riku.

Yeah, in fact, once KH2 was released, they all straight-up said, "Naruto."



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Posted 03 January 2014 - 05:32 PM

I never really liked kingdom hearts but as we know, all that matters is the manga and ns thankfully has the lions share.

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