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[TouKen4Life3g]

Been playing through Ninja storm 3 recently and i just watched the epic long Kushina x Naruto talk when he trains to control the 9 tails.

Kushina asked naruto to do many things just before she died such as, eat properly, respect your teachers and make lots of friends etc etc. Most importantly she talked about girls, which leads me to my points:

Kushina asked Naruto to find a girl like her and >>>NOT GO FOR THE FIRST GIRL HE SEES!!!<<< this is bolded as i believe this is important. On the flip side it is undoubtably noticeable that Sakura is very similar to Kushina, no need to go down that route.

At first Naruto did completely the opposite Kushina asked him to do:

only eats ramen (unhealthy)
deliberatly gets into trouble (seeking attention), but more importantly disrespected all including teachers
unfortunatly not being able to make friends was obviously because of the villagers seeing the nine tails not naruto.

After the conversation Naruto promised he would change his eating habits. At this point Naruto already had respect and respected all his friends and teachers. Lastly he has made many friends. So 3/4 checked and done....

Now if i'm correct Sakura was the first girl he fell in love with.... this sounds very extreme but...does this mean that being the first girl that he went for that this could eventually change? I hope to god not but.... as long as it isn't Hinata i'd be fine.

Just a thought that came up whilst i was playing Ninja storm 3 and wanted to share it with you guys.

Couple of things:

She said don't go for one who comes to him, not who he sees. Basically, if a girl, don't go for it. Otherwise, what she said will be contradicting itself in an odd way.

Second, it's just almost impossible for Kushina to be similar to Hinata and I know Kishi knows.

[Inferno180]

Been playing through Ninja storm 3 recently and i just watched the epic long Kushina x Naruto talk when he trains to control the 9 tails.

Kushina asked naruto to do many things just before she died such as, eat properly, respect your teachers and make lots of friends etc etc. Most importantly she talked about girls, which leads me to my points:

Kushina asked Naruto to find a girl like her and >>>NOT GO FOR THE FIRST GIRL HE SEES!!!<<< this is bolded as i believe this is important. On the flip side it is undoubtably noticeable that Sakura is very similar to Kushina, no need to go down that route.

At first Naruto did completely the opposite Kushina asked him to do:

only eats ramen (unhealthy)
deliberatly gets into trouble (seeking attention), but more importantly disrespected all including teachers
unfortunatly not being able to make friends was obviously because of the villagers seeing the nine tails not naruto.

After the conversation Naruto promised he would change his eating habits. At this point Naruto already had respect and respected all his friends and teachers. Lastly he has made many friends. So 3/4 checked and done....

Now if i'm correct Sakura was the first girl he fell in love with.... this sounds very extreme but...does this mean that being the first girl that he went for that this could eventually change? I hope to god not but.... as long as it isn't Hinata i'd be fine.

Just a thought that came up whilst i was playing Ninja storm 3 and wanted to share it with you guys.

Before people go crazy, just to let you know that's not really a considered line, I played the game too, its not bolded. Other than that, remember, Ultimate Ninja Storm 3 correlates with the main manga/anime story but diverts near the ending as the main series is still going.

This one line of not going for the first one he sees can bring sooooo much more fuel for these pointless pairing wars, just telling to dismiss it right now before anyone tries it as evidence. So many NaruHina fans will use this additional line and one minor request event of being able to choose Hinata over Sakura and Ino as 'Evidence" they already loose these as arguements because that was an additional line, the game cannot advocate Kishi's will for the game, CC2 only followed the basic setup, its a game but it is still non-canon. The Request is even worse for evidence, this one can be NaruSaku or NaruHina technically cause you can choose who to side with, Hinata is the legend route but it does not mean anything, you can get more relation with Hinata over 1 fight or settle for rasing both Sakura and Inos friendship level and getting free hero points (hero items are better I mean who would not use the health potions for those s rank awards?) at the expense of relationship with Hinata. I mean just due to UNS2 and again in this one, when certain people are paired up they get a team name for enhancements. Guess what happens when Naruto and Hinata are paired up, their team is called "Secret Lovers" now this one thing drove sooooo many NaruHina fans insane claiming that Naruto secretly loved Hinata, they forgot that this game only went from the start of shippuden up to the end of pain. Obviously the team title was referring to how Naruto and Hinata have secret crushes, Naruto> Sakura and Hinata > Naruto. I remember how bad this was on another site designed only for talking about the game back then, free from the pairing stuff and it was a short lived pairing war which honeslty made me ashamed of the fandom. One crazy NaruHina fan thought that this is what it meant, so many fans of other pairings had to tell this person and the few who supported him that it was a simple namesake for a similar personality trait they both shared, just like if Sai and Deidara who never met were paired up, it would give them the team name artists, or the same if Naruto and Pain were paired with Jiriaya, it would give you master and students. It was based on that and it does it again in this one, you can pair Bee, Roshi, and Utaka for Jinchruki, or Neji, Hinata, and Ao (support only) for Byukgun users.

So yeah, even then we see more NaruSaku stuff in UNS3 in the direct story itself, Hinata does not even say one word in the first playthrough, you don't even play as her once, Hinata and everything you do with her are literally optional. You get to choose though as you want, I mean its a game, there is nothing pairing oriented anyways, I mean they do show more NaruSaku stuff but its still mainly naruto and his parents. The requests you can do as you want in the way you want, I mean I'd rather appease anything for Sakura over Hinata cause well I like Sakura more than Hinata but thats just my choice when playing this game.

All I'm saying is, don't take anything from the game extra seriously but even then there is still more for NaruSaku than NaruHina in practically any form of Naruto media, especially in the manga where it counts most (guess the non-canon anime stuff can even be placed as the second most important cause well it expands upon the already vast NaruSaku).

[Arachnia]

Before people go crazy, just to let you know that's not really a considered line, I played the game too, its not bolded. Other than that, remember, Ultimate Ninja Storm 3 correlates with the main manga/anime story but diverts near the ending as the main series is still going.

This one line of not going for the first one he sees can bring sooooo much more fuel for these pointless pairing wars, just telling to dismiss it right now before anyone tries it as evidence. So many NaruHina fans will use this additional line and one minor request event of being able to choose Hinata over Sakura and Ino as 'Evidence" they already loose these as arguements because that was an additional line, the game cannot advocate Kishi's will for the game, CC2 only followed the basic setup, its a game but it is still non-canon. The Request is even worse for evidence, this one can be NaruSaku or NaruHina technically cause you can choose who to side with, Hinata is the legend route but it does not mean anything, you can get more relation with Hinata over 1 fight or settle for rasing both Sakura and Inos friendship level and getting free hero points (hero items are better I mean who would not use the health potions for those s rank awards?) at the expense of relationship with Hinata. I mean just due to UNS2 and again in this one, when certain people are paired up they get a team name for enhancements. Guess what happens when Naruto and Hinata are paired up, their team is called "Secret Lovers" now this one thing drove sooooo many NaruHina fans insane claiming that Naruto secretly loved Hinata, they forgot that this game only went from the start of shippuden up to the end of pain. Obviously the team title was referring to how Naruto and Hinata have secret crushes, Naruto> Sakura and Hinata > Naruto. I remember how bad this was on another site designed only for talking about the game back then, free from the pairing stuff and it was a short lived pairing war which honeslty made me ashamed of the fandom. One crazy NaruHina fan thought that this is what it meant, so many fans of other pairings had to tell this person and the few who supported him that it was a simple namesake for a similar personality trait they both shared, just like if Sai and Deidara who never met were paired up, it would give them the team name artists, or the same if Naruto and Pain were paired with Jiriaya, it would give you master and students. It was based on that and it does it again in this one, you can pair Bee, Roshi, and Utaka for Jinchruki, or Neji, Hinata, and Ao (support only) for Byukgun users.

So yeah, even then we see more NaruSaku stuff in UNS3 in the direct story itself, Hinata does not even say one word in the first playthrough, you don't even play as her once, Hinata and everything you do with her are literally optional. You get to choose though as you want, I mean its a game, there is nothing pairing oriented anyways, I mean they do show more NaruSaku stuff but its still mainly naruto and his parents. The requests you can do as you want in the way you want, I mean I'd rather appease anything for Sakura over Hinata cause well I like Sakura more than Hinata but thats just my choice when playing this game.

All I'm saying is, don't take anything from the game extra seriously but even then there is still more for NaruSaku than NaruHina in practically any form of Naruto media, especially in the manga where it counts most (guess the non-canon anime stuff can even be placed as the second most important cause well it expands upon the already vast NaruSaku).

agree on the secret lovers , but my problem is now i cant play sakura 1 bit xD hinata is way too ez in ninjastorm games need to learn sakura more:D

[HauntedCake]

Before people go crazy, just to let you know that's not really a considered line, I played the game too, its not bolded. Other than that, remember, Ultimate Ninja Storm 3 correlates with the main manga/anime story but diverts near the ending as the main series is still going.

This one line of not going for the first one he sees can bring sooooo much more fuel for these pointless pairing wars, just telling to dismiss it right now before anyone tries it as evidence. So many NaruHina fans will use this additional line and one minor request event of being able to choose Hinata over Sakura and Ino as 'Evidence" they already loose these as arguements because that was an additional line, the game cannot advocate Kishi's will for the game, CC2 only followed the basic setup, its a game but it is still non-canon. The Request is even worse for evidence, this one can be NaruSaku or NaruHina technically cause you can choose who to side with, Hinata is the legend route but it does not mean anything, you can get more relation with Hinata over 1 fight or settle for rasing both Sakura and Inos friendship level and getting free hero points (hero items are better I mean who would not use the health potions for those s rank awards?) at the expense of relationship with Hinata. I mean just due to UNS2 and again in this one, when certain people are paired up they get a team name for enhancements. Guess what happens when Naruto and Hinata are paired up, their team is called "Secret Lovers" now this one thing drove sooooo many NaruHina fans insane claiming that Naruto secretly loved Hinata, they forgot that this game only went from the start of shippuden up to the end of pain. Obviously the team title was referring to how Naruto and Hinata have secret crushes, Naruto> Sakura and Hinata > Naruto. I remember how bad this was on another site designed only for talking about the game back then, free from the pairing stuff and it was a short lived pairing war which honeslty made me ashamed of the fandom. One crazy NaruHina fan thought that this is what it meant, so many fans of other pairings had to tell this person and the few who supported him that it was a simple namesake for a similar personality trait they both shared, just like if Sai and Deidara who never met were paired up, it would give them the team name artists, or the same if Naruto and Pain were paired with Jiriaya, it would give you master and students. It was based on that and it does it again in this one, you can pair Bee, Roshi, and Utaka for Jinchruki, or Neji, Hinata, and Ao (support only) for Byukgun users.

So yeah, even then we see more NaruSaku stuff in UNS3 in the direct story itself, Hinata does not even say one word in the first playthrough, you don't even play as her once, Hinata and everything you do with her are literally optional. You get to choose though as you want, I mean its a game, there is nothing pairing oriented anyways, I mean they do show more NaruSaku stuff but its still mainly naruto and his parents. The requests you can do as you want in the way you want, I mean I'd rather appease anything for Sakura over Hinata cause well I like Sakura more than Hinata but thats just my choice when playing this game.

All I'm saying is, don't take anything from the game extra seriously but even then there is still more for NaruSaku than NaruHina in practically any form of Naruto media, especially in the manga where it counts most (guess the non-canon anime stuff can even be placed as the second most important cause well it expands upon the already vast NaruSaku).

I edited my post, saying i wasn't basing what i said off the game, you might not of seen it cos i edited it a while later.

Yeah, selecting Hinata and Naruto in genertations brought up "secret lovers", and it also does it again in the newest game UNS3. Funny how ino, sakura and karinare still aiming for sasuke lmao.

[Inferno180]

agree on the secret lovers , but my problem is now i cant play sakura 1 bit xD hinata is way too ez in ninjastorm games need to learn sakura more:D

Sakura can be devastating if used right, one thing to do is use that blossom clash, its not the strongest move, but since its her basic jutsu, because it makes a lot of earth get kicked up and is an AOE attack, this makes it so Sakura can juggle or make some distance between you and the opponent. It does not need to hit directly either, people have been saying that this one move of hers along with her tilt which is a ramming attack makes some take caution against her, even if your opponent walks into the kicked up earth while its active, they still take damage (its stupid but hey it works). Its even better if you use it from the air at the right time, slamming down on an oppoent. If you arn't good as sakura, you still get this good move with her as support, its better than those supports like Naruto, Kakashi, and Bee who just run forward. Because Sakura jumps and comes from above as support it makes people get caught off guard. Any character can be good, just need practice. I myself cannot play Kankuro or Chiyo for my life.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I edited my post, saying i wasn't basing what i said off the game, you might not of seen it cos i edited it a while later.

Yeah, selecting Hinata and Naruto in genertations brought up "secret lovers", and it also does it again in the newest game UNS3. Funny how ino, sakura and karinare still aiming for sasuke lmao.

Look at this way, Kishi made it a secret approval in the movie of NS with MK. Also, you should be glad that 615 or even 616 didn't make Naruto think of his mother's word when holding hand with Hinata. When you think about it, it's all about friendships in the last volume. Kushina was singled out from friends in Minato's mind. That said Sakura has a really good chance since her shining moment has not happen.

Note: side missions really suggests MK to NS.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 15 March 2013 - 12:37 AM.

[redragon88]

@HauntedCake

If I recall correctly Kushina says in the english dub "not the first girl that comes your way", it's definitely not "not the first girl you see". Replay that part again to see that I'm right. Also, the japanese dub keeps it the same as it was in the manga "don't fall for a weird girl".

I really have no clue why the english dubbers decided to modify Kushina's words about women, but you should always focus more on the original translations.

[TouKen4Life3g]

@HauntedCake

If I recall correctly Kushina says in the english dub "not the first girl that comes your way", it's definitely not "not the first girl you see". Replay that part again to see that I'm right. Also, the japanese dub keeps it the same as it was in the manga "don't fall for a weird girl".

I really have no clue why the english dubbers decided to modify Kushina's words about women, but you should always focus more on the original translations.

Either way, it still points the fact that Sakura is the one to resemble the most.

[Sojobo]

Couple of things:

She said don't go for one who comes to him, not who he sees. Basically, if a girl, don't go for it. Otherwise, what she said will be contradicting itself in an odd way.

Second, it's just almost impossible for Kushina to be similar to Hinata and I know Kishi knows.

In Japanese we can hear the word "hen" wich means "weird".
Ninja Storm just took Viz translation wich was faulse. Really dissapointing that they didn't even corrected it in the game. -_____-


Anyway, hope NH will end soon in the manga (even if it's already over to me), it's not that I dislike this pairing, but I'm tired of hearing the opposite fandom give it so much importance.
It's like it's the best pairing of all times in manga.

I already said it a few days ago, but Kishimoto just insipired from Dragon Quest.

Poppu/Naruto :


Pop begins as a coward who runs away from fights, but he later grows as a powerful character throughout the story and gains true courage. Pop falls in love with Maam as the story develops.
His desire to become a powerfull mage is boosted by his love for her, so he can protect her and his friends.
He has a lot of similarities with Naruto, he's not blond tough, but he's acting like an idiot, sometimes he can be really rude, and can be a big pervert.
Maam's love for Hyunkel hurts him a lot, and tries to hide that from her.


Maam/Sakura :


She's one of Aban student, and travels the world with Poppu and Dai (she is with them and Hyunkel, the main character of the story). She is rather weak in battle (at the beginning), but her caracter as a woman isn't the easiest. She is indeed quite temperamental and inherited power from his father (who incidentally is a former brother in arms of Aban), so it is better not to angry her. Yet Maam is also full of compassion.

She is in love with Hyunkel and she is the one who will return him at the good side.
She doesn't really like Poppu in the beginning, but she begins to care about himlittle by little as the story develops.
Later in the manga, she doesn't really understand the nature of her feelings for him, and she also doesn't see his feelings for her, wich hurted Poppu a lot when she was asking help in her relationship with Hyunkel.

Maam has rose hair, great physical strenght and a talent for healing magic like Sakura in Naruto.

Hyunkel/Sasuke :

Hyunckel's parents were killed in a monster attack, but one of the monsters took him in and raised him like a son. When Avan killed Hadlar and Hyunckel finds his adoptive father dead, he secretly holds a grudge against Avan, whom he believes killed his father. Hyunckel then becomes Avan's first pupil but, after graduating, unsuccessfully tried to kill his teacher with a technique he invented himself, Bloody Scraid. He was then taken in by Myst-Vearn who brought him up to be General of the Immortal Army, one of the six main armies under Hadlar and Vearn's control. Despite being a villain at the early part of the story, Hyunckel wasn't able to bring himself to constantly torture any female characters such as Maam. After discovering that Hadlar had killed his adopted father instead of Avan, he joins Dai's party.

He seems to cares a lot for Maam, but in the last arc (before Poppu's confession too Maam), he said that he doesn't deserve her love, and that she has to realize her feelings for Poppu.

Merle/Hinata :

Shy, gentle, black hair, andmires and loves Poppu, the proud failure. She knew in the beginning he was courageous.
She confessed and sacrificed her life for Poppu before the final arc. She wanted to know before dying in Poppu's arms the name of the girl he loves (even if she already noticed for so long).
That's when Maam was aware about Poppu's feelings for her. They didn't speak about it after that before Poppu's confession. (they were in War against the Demon's army, so, no time to talk about that)

Eimi/Karin :


She is part of "the Three Wises" of Papunika with Apolo and Navy, who are in charge of Princess Leona protection.

She falls madly in love Hyunkel. She even says to him that she will follow him even in hell.

After the serious injury of Hyunkel caused by Alvinas, she throws his weapon in the forest, so he could nver fight again. However it only disarm him, because he went unarmed to the battlefield. When she tries to catch him, he opens his heart, telling her he fights to atone for his crimes and that his wounds are nothing compared to his mental wounds.

When invoking Minakator, she brings her weapon to him renovated.

Eimi confessed to Hyunkel without having an answer, but in the last chapter, we can see her following him in his journey.


Did you guys see the parallels with those characters ?
Naruto's paring developpement is based on Dragon Quest.


I will finish with Poppu/Maam confession. Can gives some good ideas for futur NaruSaku :
http://www.mangaread...hapter-250.html
Enjoy the reading.

Edited by Sojobo, 14 March 2013 - 11:24 PM.

[Zatheko]

@HauntedCake

If I recall correctly Kushina says in the english dub "not the first girl that comes your way", it's definitely not "not the first girl you see". Replay that part again to see that I'm right. Also, the japanese dub keeps it the same as it was in the manga "don't fall for a weird girl".

I really have no clue why the english dubbers decided to modify Kushina's words about women, but you should always focus more on the original translations.

It can still work for NaruSaku like that as well, the first one to come to him and confess was Hinata so in a way she was the first one who came his way. Sakura didn't ever go to him before then, it was always Naruto going to Sakura.

@Sojobo I have never read that before, but if what you say is true then those parallels are perfect. I will have to check that out some time. Good post.

Edit: Just read the link you posted and wow... It feels JUST like Naruto haha, he even acts exactly how I would picture Naruto if he ever confessed. One part that really stuck out to me though was then Poppu told her "you always set me straight" that is just like NaruSaku haha.

Edited by zatheko, 14 March 2013 - 11:33 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

In Japanese we can hear the word "hen" wich means "weird".
Ninja Storm just took Viz translation wich was faulse. Really dissapointing that they didn't even corrected it in the game. -_____-


Anyway, hope NH will end soon in the manga (even if it's already over to me), it's not that I dislike this pairing, but I'm tired of hearing the opposite fandom give it so much importance.
It's like it's the best pairing of all times in manga.

I already said it a few days ago, but Kishimoto just insipired from Dragon Quest.

Poppu/Naruto :


Pop begins as a coward who runs away from fights, but he later grows as a powerful character throughout the story and gains true courage. Pop falls in love with Maam as the story develops.
His desire to become a powerfull mage is boosted by his love for her, so he can protect her and his friends.
He has a lot of similarities with Naruto, he's not blond tough, but he's acting like an idiot, sometimes he can be really rude, and can be a big pervert.
Maam's love for Hyunkel hurts him a lot, and tries to hide that from her.


Maam/Sakura :


She's one of Aban student, and travels the world with Poppu and Dai (she is with them and Hyunkel, the main character of the story). She is rather weak in battle (at the beginning), but her caracter as a woman isn't the easiest. She is indeed quite temperamental and inherited power from his father (who incidentally is a former brother in arms of Aban), so it is better not to angry her. Yet Maam is also full of compassion.

She is in love with Hyunkel and she is the one who will return him at the good side.
She doesn't really like Poppu in the beginning, but she begins to care about himlittle by little as the story develops.
Later in the manga, she doesn't really understand the nature of her feelings for him, and she also doesn't see his feelings for her, wich hurted Poppu a lot when she was asking help in her relationship with Hyunkel.

Maam has rose hair, great physical strenght and a talent for healing magic like Sakura in Naruto.

Hyunkel/Sasuke :

Hyunckel's parents were killed in a monster attack, but one of the monsters took him in and raised him like a son. When Avan killed Hadlar and Hyunckel finds his adoptive father dead, he secretly holds a grudge against Avan, whom he believes killed his father. Hyunckel then becomes Avan's first pupil but, after graduating, unsuccessfully tried to kill his teacher with a technique he invented himself, Bloody Scraid. He was then taken in by Myst-Vearn who brought him up to be General of the Immortal Army, one of the six main armies under Hadlar and Vearn's control. Despite being a villain at the early part of the story, Hyunckel wasn't able to bring himself to constantly torture any female characters such as Maam. After discovering that Hadlar had killed his adopted father instead of Avan, he joins Dai's party.

He seems to cares a lot for Maam, but in the last arc (before Poppu's confession too Maam), he said that he doesn't deserve her love, and that she has to realize her feelings for Poppu.

Merle/Hinata :

Shy, gentle, black hair, andmires and loves Poppu, the proud failure. She knew in the beginning he was courageous.
She confessed and sacrificed her life for Poppu before the final arc. She wanted to know before dying in Poppu's arms the name of the girl he loves (even if she already noticed for so long).
That's when Maam was aware about Poppu's feelings for her. They didn't speak about it after that before Poppu's confession. (they were in War against the Demon's army, so, no time to talk about that)

Eimi/Karin :


She is part of "the Three Wises" of Papunika with Apolo and Navy, who are in charge of Princess Leona protection.

She falls madly in love Hyunkel. She even says to him that she will follow him even in hell.

After the serious injury of Hyunkel caused by Alvinas, she throws his weapon in the forest, so he could nver fight again. However it only disarm him, because he went unarmed to the battlefield. When she tries to catch him, he opens his heart, telling her he fights to atone for his crimes and that his wounds are nothing compared to his mental wounds.

When invoking Minakator, she brings her weapon to him renovated.

Eimi confessed to Hyunkel without having an answer, but in the last chapter, we can see her following him in his journey.


Did you guys see the parallels with those characters ?
Naruto's paring developpement is based on Dragon Quest.


I will finish with Poppu/Maam confession. Can gives some good ideas for futur NaruSaku :
http://www.mangaread...hapter-250.html
Enjoy the reading.

Kishimoto was inspired by many stories and but what really inspired his was his brother, dragon ball and Hunter x Hunter which even Kishimoto himself interviewed the HXH author you can even see ridiculous similarities between Sasuke/Kurapika

[Sojobo]

Kishimoto was inspired by many stories and but what really inspired his was his brother, dragon ball and Hunter x Hunter which even Kishimoto himself interviewed the HXH author you can even see ridiculous similarities between Sasuke/Kurapika

Of course he was inspired by many manga Shonen (even Slam Dunk), but for the pairing story, Drago Quest is just the only one. I mean it, I suggest all of you who never read it to read the manga.
All the chapters are available on mangareader.

Edit: Just read the link you posted and wow... It feels JUST like Naruto haha, he even acts exactly how I would picture Naruto if he ever confessed. One part that really stuck out to me though was then Poppu told her "you always set me straight" that is just like NaruSaku haha.

And here is Merle's sacrifice, looking a lot of Hinata in Pain's Arc.
http://www.mangaread...hapter-240.html
We even have those flashbacks where she's stalking at him lol.

And Maam reaction when she realize that she's in love with Poppu.

http://www.mangaread...hapter-247.html
This chapter is also interesting to imagining a possible scenario for NS (Sakura who who tries to realize her feelings for Naruto)

Edited by Sojobo, 15 March 2013 - 12:20 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Of course he was inspired by many manga Shonen (even Slam Dunk), but for the pairing story, Drago Quest is just the only one. I mean it, I suggest all of you who never read it to read the manga.
All the chapters are available on mangareader.

And here is Merle's sacrifice, looking a lot of Hinata in Pain's Arc.
http://www.mangaread...hapter-240.html
We even have those flashbacks where she's stalking at him lol.

And Maam reaction when she realize that she's in love with Poppu.

http://www.mangaread...hapter-247.html
This chapter is also interesting to imagining a possible scenario for NS (Sakura who who tries to realize her feelings for Naruto)

The scenes are way different than Naruto and i doubt that Sasuke might give love advices to sakura, she just sacrificed herself, Hinata tried to.

A manga does not need to be a carbon copy of another but there are a lot of manga that someome who loves the main character tries to sacrifice herself for the main character that does not love them back.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 15 March 2013 - 12:29 AM.

[Inferno180]

Look at this way, Kishi made it a secret approval in the movie of NS with MK. Also, you should be glad that 615 or even 616 will make Naruto think of his mother's word when holding hand with Hinata. When you think about it, it's all about friendships in the last volume. Kushina was singled out from friends in Minato's mind. That said Sakura has a really good chance since her shining moment has not happen.

Note: side missions really suggests MK to NS.

Don't even need to bother, all we need to look at is again the manga and some of the canon anime (I mean extened scenes in the anime count for something at least, long as they are part of the main story kinda like when Sakura yelled at Sai about Naruto when he was training to make the rasenshuriken.

Even then Sakura's character cannot end on the Sasuke point she has now, it will change regardless if it goes to NaruSaku or just leaves Sakura independent, Naruto can't do the promise and have Sakura going all Sasuke-kun again like the start, it would be back to square one, Sakura can't turn out like this. Also as far as Hinata's and Sakura's confessions go, many anti-narusaku fans say this is why it happened but its not like Naruto can just forget about Sakura, go to hinata, and not have damage to himself and other story elements. If Naruto just jumped to Hinata, then the promise would have lost importance, Sasuke would now only be his means for hokage, Sakura would just be there on the side, Naruto would have utterly "given up" (this is the biggest flaw in any argument of him no longer doing the promise, if he gave up he broke his own ideal), Naruto is seeking Sasuke for reasons alongside the promise, not just simply returning Sasuke to Sakura, again Naruto made it for the 3 of them, to protect his brotherhood bond with Sasuke, to make Sakura happy, to save Sasuke from his own death sentence, to reunite his first "family", to end Sasuke's hatred, to confess to Sakura, and to become hokage. Now this all goes alongside the same reasons for revenge, the curse of hatred, the senju-uchiha feud, and the tailed beasts. Its all alongside that.

I still find the arguements of people saying "Naruto is over Sakura, he said he hates people who lie to themselves, they have not touched upon this now and Naruto just does not care, he is over Sakura for the lies." I just don't see the logic from this, they say Naruto gave up on Sakura yet he has managed to forgive and turn Nagato to good even though he blowing up his home and killing (temporarily) many friends and Jiriaya, making Gaara better out of shared pain and understanding, even forgiving Kurama for killing his parents and becoming BFFs, but he would not forgive Sakura for a lie to try and protect him, even when Sai himself said both that Sakura did it for HIS FEELINGS AND HOW SAI HIMSELF FELT HE PUT SAKURA IN THE POSITION? So let me get this straight... Naruto is angry and does not forgive Sakura for a lie that was for his own good intentions that was put in motion by Sai who himself told Naruto he felt it was his own fault?

Yeah no anti-NaruSaku fans have yet answered this question in a logical way, this is something on a story attribute part and so what sense would it make for Naruto to just simply waltz over to Hinata because of this? He can forgive many once crazy murders and a centries old hate filled demon and become great friends with said demon but not forgive a girl for lyinbg who wanted to protect him who felt compelled to do it because of another friend who was concerned for them both.

Yeah I'm done, unless they can provide a good argument this is all I need until Naruto is shown doing something otherwise, until the real answer comes in the manga, we don't know, but we still have logical thoughts and questions and reasons like this at our disposal. This is really all you need to look at for a better answer until the manga resolves it.

[rocci]

The scenes are way different than Naruto and i doubt that Sasuke might give love advices to sakura, she just sacrificed herself, Hinata tried to.

A manga does not need to be a carbon copy of another but there are a lot of manga that someome who loves the main character tries to sacrifice herself for the main character that does not love them back.

yes it's different but sasuke can do what kakashi do to rin, reject her and tell that obito love her. because i belive sasuke wasnot romantic guy.

and about kishi inspiration i don't know than hunterxhunter is kishi inspiration, where do you see it?

and for me AKIRA is naruto inspiration for naruto art style. and the matrix too for the choosen one.

[Gravenimage]

Of course he was inspired by many manga Shonen (even Slam Dunk), but for the pairing story, Drago Quest is just the only one. I mean it, I suggest all of you who never read it to read the manga.
All the chapters are available on mangareader.

And here is Merle's sacrifice, looking a lot of Hinata in Pain's Arc.
http://www.mangaread...hapter-240.html
We even have those flashbacks where she's stalking at him lol.

And Maam reaction when she realize that she's in love with Poppu.

http://www.mangaread...hapter-247.html
This chapter is also interesting to imagining a possible scenario for NS (Sakura who who tries to realize her feelings for Naruto)

I feel like I'm watching the future of Naruto. That guy Hyunkel is just like Sasuke I can imagine a possible scenario of him telling Sakura something similar to the pep talk he gave to Marm. I can imagine Kishi creating a similar scenario of the war with Naruto fighting Obito or Madara and Sakura goes to his aid like Marm did for Pop.

Edited by Gravenimage, 15 March 2013 - 12:47 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

yes it's different but sasuke can do what kakashi do to rin, reject her and tell that obito love her. because i belive sasuke wasnot romantic guy.

and about kishi inspiration i don't know than hunterxhunter is kishi inspiration, where do you see it?

and for me AKIRA is naruto inspiration for naruto art style. and the matrix too for the choosen one.

I think the chance for it was on part 1, also i do think she's going to realize this by herself, she already take up two steps, first she thought about what Naruto is to her, and second the "great guy" stuff.

I feel like I'm watching the future of Naruto. That guy Hyunkel is just like Sasuke I can imagine a possible scenario of him telling Sakura something similar to the pep talk he gave to Marm. I can imagine Kishi creating a similar scenario of the war with Naruto fighting Obito or Madara and Sakura goes to his aid like Marm did for Pop.

He's not even a main character
http://dragonquest.w...ai_no_Daibouken

And hyunkei was evil since the begining

It's needed a good amount of forcing to make it a parallel to Naruto.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 15 March 2013 - 12:59 AM.

[rocci]

Don't even need to bother, all we need to look at is again the manga and some of the canon anime (I mean extened scenes in the anime count for something at least, long as they are part of the main story kinda like when Sakura yelled at Sai about Naruto when he was training to make the rasenshuriken.

Even then Sakura's character cannot end on the Sasuke point she has now, it will change regardless if it goes to NaruSaku or just leaves Sakura independent, Naruto can't do the promise and have Sakura going all Sasuke-kun again like the start, it would be back to square one, Sakura can't turn out like this. Also as far as Hinata's and Sakura's confessions go, many anti-narusaku fans say this is why it happened but its not like Naruto can just forget about Sakura, go to hinata, and not have damage to himself and other story elements. If Naruto just jumped to Hinata, then the promise would have lost importance, Sasuke would now only be his means for hokage, Sakura would just be there on the side, Naruto would have utterly "given up" (this is the biggest flaw in any argument of him no longer doing the promise, if he gave up he broke his own ideal), Naruto is seeking Sasuke for reasons alongside the promise, not just simply returning Sasuke to Sakura, again Naruto made it for the 3 of them, to protect his brotherhood bond with Sasuke, to make Sakura happy, to save Sasuke from his own death sentence, to reunite his first "family", to end Sasuke's hatred, to confess to Sakura, and to become hokage. Now this all goes alongside the same reasons for revenge, the curse of hatred, the senju-uchiha feud, and the tailed beasts. Its all alongside that.

I still find the arguements of people saying "Naruto is over Sakura, he said he hates people who lie to themselves, they have not touched upon this now and Naruto just does not care, he is over Sakura for the lies." I just don't see the logic from this, they say Naruto gave up on Sakura yet he has managed to forgive and turn Nagato to good even though he blowing up his home and killing (temporarily) many friends and Jiriaya, making Gaara better out of shared pain and understanding, even forgiving Kurama for killing his parents and becoming BFFs, but he would not forgive Sakura for a lie to try and protect him, even when Sai himself said both that Sakura did it for HIS FEELINGS AND HOW SAI HIMSELF FELT HE PUT SAKURA IN THE POSITION? So let me get this straight... Naruto is angry and does not forgive Sakura for a lie that was for his own good intentions that was put in motion by Sai who himself told Naruto he felt it was his own fault?

Yeah no anti-NaruSaku fans have yet answered this question in a logical way, this is something on a story attribute part and so what sense would it make for Naruto to just simply waltz over to Hinata because of this? He can forgive many once crazy murders and a centries old hate filled demon and become great friends with said demon but not forgive a girl for lyinbg who wanted to protect him who felt compelled to do it because of another friend who was concerned for them both.

Yeah I'm done, unless they can provide a good argument this is all I need until Naruto is shown doing something otherwise, until the real answer comes in the manga, we don't know, but we still have logical thoughts and questions and reasons like this at our disposal. This is really all you need to look at for a better answer until the manga resolves it.

what do you think about obirin? do you think the reason for narusaku lack developement because of chapter 599 aka the obirin chapter.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

@Sojobo
The Main hero is "Dai" -> Dai, the main hero. He has grown up on an island full of friendly monsters. For a short time, he has been trained by Avan, but he always has difficulty casting spells, usually it works only when he is very angry.

Main Heroine - Leona, the young princess of Papnika, a land of sages. Early in the manga, Dai saves her from a conspiracy that tries to use a ritual on the island to kill her, and falls in love with her.

About Obirin i think they will be canon on afterlife, Obito's ending will be him reuniting with her(Yeah supernatural but whatever Naruto is full of this Itachi changed after he died and a lot of people got their resolutions on death like Kakashi's talk with his father), also i think there's a strong possibility of Kakashi dying by Sasuke's hands.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 15 March 2013 - 01:06 AM.

[Sojobo]

I feel like I'm watching the future of Naruto. That guy Hyunkel is just like Sasuke I can imagine a possible scenario of him telling Sakura something similar to the pep talk he gave to Marm. I can imagine Kishi creating a similar scenario of the war with Naruto fighting Obito or Madara and Sakura goes to his aid like Marm did for Pop.

Of course Sasuke will not be the one who will help Sakura to realize her feelings for Naruto (I would rather say Sai), but those panels :

The fear to see Naruto's hurt or dead.
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Maam : That's it... I've been looking at him ...like that.
That's why he wa trying to be strong...


Making difference about 2 sort of love.

Of course, it will not be the exact same scenario, but I think it can give us some hints on how NS will become canon.

When I read this, I can easily imagine the same words coming from Sakura.


Maam : You've been hurt... and sad...all those times because of me. (after realizing that he's in love with her)
Sakura : I'm the one who caused him th emost pain. (after realizing that he's in love with her)

I really liked Poppu's confession, and I hope it will be something like this for Naruto.

@Sojobo
The Main hero is "Dai" -> Dai, the main hero. He has grown up on an island full of friendly monsters. For a short time, he has been trained by Avan, but he always has difficulty casting spells, usually it works only when he is very angry.

Main Heroine - Leona, the young princess of Papnika, a land of sages. Early in the manga, Dai saves her from a conspiracy that tries to use a ritual on the island to kill her, and falls in love with her.

Does that really matter ?
I'm not talking about "copying someone else work", I'm talking about insipiration.
And it's obvious that Kishimoto was inspirated by the pairing story between Poppu, Maam, Hyunkel, Merle and Aimi.
I never said that it happened exactly the same in Naruto, I just say that there are some obvious parallels.

Edited by Sojobo, 15 March 2013 - 01:10 AM.