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[TouKen4Life3g]

Hang in there, everyone. Just one more. Just one more.

[tricksie]

 

So, let me get this straight. They made a movie promo in which the bonus material is to give 2 million copies of a colored short manga from the author?

 

I'm not an expert in marketing, but to me, it sounds like they would need *at least* 2 million viewers in order to cover certain elements in the Bill of Materials of the movie. It really looks like "we need at least 2 million tickets sold to cover our production cost"... and let's not talk about profit yet. I'm not even sure if those coloured manga chapter was part of the Bill of Materials.

 

To my limited knowledge in manufacturing and supply chain (yes, as researchers, we're required to know the basics), a product cost comprises of materials + labor + profit. It simply says that if you want to gain something from your product, you'd need to factor in raw materials needed to produce it, plus all your manpower and human resources involved in all production aspects (including marketing the product). And finally, profit is whatever amount of money left over after you pay all the bills... btw, sorry for the boring topics :)

 

A movie ticket in Japan costs somewhere between JPY1,000 - JPY2,000, depending on the cinema, if I remember correctly. Producing an anime is not cheap. Let's assume producing those bonus manga costs about the same as a manga volume itself at around JPY450 (granted, it has less pages, but it's coloured nonetheless... I can imagine producing a coloured materials would be more expensive than paperback, but I digress...). Let these numbers sink for you....

 

Take a look at Hayao Miyazaki's Wind Rises for instance. It has a budget of USD 30 million and it grosses at USD 136 million (source). Despite the fact that this movie was the highest grossing film in Japan in 2013, pundits are doubting that it may not have turned into profit yet (source). --I personally think it has turned into profit with all those revenues, we went to Ghibli Museum in Tokyo the other day during my kids' school holidays, they seemed to operate just fine ... and they're still producing those monthly short anime works...

 

Anyways, for a movie like Wind Rises to pass USD 100 million, it needs to attract ~8.1 million viewers in about ~50+ days. The Last, didn't even made 20% of it. Compared to the other anime that was released in the same period, Metantei Conan made about USD 36 million and the recent Dragon Ball Z Resurection made about USD 49 million. Again, let these numbers sink for you.

 

In conclusion, it sounds to me that somebody is playing a very high bet on this movie. Last time before 699-700 came out, I always wish the team good luck. But now, I really don't care whether they would succeed or fail. Seeing it from ordinary people perspective, with all those negative morale messages they're trying to get to the younger audience (take a look at Gaiden), I really wish it fails miserably.

 

We don't want our kids to pick up these heroes and heroines as example aren't we?

 

Best post! Yes, I wonder the same thing and you've laid it out so beautifully. This seems like a huge gamble. And this is why I wonder if they have something more up their sleeve after this movie. Like the release of a Boruto manga under a new artist.

[trang95]

 

 

 

ahh yes.. this is it. another movie that continuously feed peoples mind with so much nonsense.

 

if this was a year ago we are like:

 

Everything will be daijoubu

 

lol

 

and those character descriptions ...bravo!

Sasuke..jokes? lol what kind of mistranslation is this..

just goes to show how low this series had become

How about they give us the REAL CHARACTER DESCRIPTIONS??

 

should have been like this:

 

Uzumaki Naruto.

The BIG failure of the ninja world. He used to be a mischievous child but was sincere and full of dreams, now he cannot even protect a girl because he was getting rusty as he bury himself into his office with god knows what work he does with it.

He was supposed to be the MC of this series but was brainwashed to be Sasuke's underling and Hinata's D trophy.

He used to be the most sympathetic person during his prime due to his own sad experience of being alone with no parents or relatives to be there for him but has found a new family of his own in the presence of his teammates and mentors. However due to money and horny fans he ended up dying during his last fight with Sasuke and a new persona awakes. He is now a father who could not even know how to handle his own son when in fact he was shown to be good with problematic children even when he was young (i.e. Konohamaru). This new Naruto also found a new love of his life that he would rather grow senile in his office gorging cup ramen and sake.

 

He turns out to be a jerk like his best bud Sasuke who would go for a girl out of rivalry. He seems to have developed dementia and schizophrenia.

He now became a hokage like what he dreams of, but without the two precious people in his life. in the end he did not accomplish anything other than waste people's 15 years worth of time and dedication.

 

 

Uzumaki Hinata

The stalker who finally got the D (not ONCE but TWICE as her fans would fight a war of justifying), thanks to her huge racks and rabid fanboys but still remains irrelevant. Her special moves are "naruto-kun" and "Na-Naruto-kuuuuuuuuuuun" plus scarf making.

She cares for no one but her husbando Narudo-kuun and could care less about her bratty son. Her mere presence can ruin 15 years of development.

 

 

Uchiha Sasuke

The PURE child. He is actually the real MC of this show. His D brings all the fangirls in the yard. and could never be wronged or shamed.

His talent is to be a jerk without even trying. His hobby is to poke annoying girls on their forehead to make them believe that he cares.

Uchiha Sakura

developed dementia and schizophrenia like Naruto. She is the ultimate slave of the Uchihas

She is usually caring and strong-willed but all these disappears in the presence of her husbando Sasuke-kun

She has delusions and would even manipulate facts to make people believe her delusions.

She is terrible with photoshop and currently has a loan. Yes, along with Naruto she died during the war therefore the great medic was no more but a doormat who doesn't even know if her husband wars glasses. She is a nut case.

Imao, you go girl

[Nostradamus]

Wait, Sasuke is taller than Naruto? But in Gaiden, he was shorter. No wonder that Japanese tweet said that, telling us something is wrong. Japanese fans continue to impress me.

That's because the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

[Shashank95]

The inconsistencies are getting ridiculous...... 

[dejavu]

Hang in there, everyone. Just one more. Just one more.

 

Everything will be daijoubu gaiz     

 

Just let those fanboys fap over their Hinata-hime covered in cake icing

[Shashank95]

 

Everything will be daijoubu gaiz   

 

Just let those fanboys fap over their Hinata-hime covered in cake icing

 

That is something that will never end 

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

Best post! Yes, I wonder the same thing and you've laid it out so beautifully. This seems like a huge gamble. And this is why I wonder if they have something more up their sleeve after this movie. Like the release of a Boruto manga under a new artist.

 

If they did a Boruto manga, Tricks, I'd be out. I mean, I'm already out after the crap that was Naruto Gaiden as well as everything else, so unless Kishi really learned his lesson, which he hasn't, I'm not interested in anything that hypocrite is selling!

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

I hope SP goes f*** themselves.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

I hope SP goes f*** themselves.

 

I'm sure they will we they realized they burnt so much yen because this film will flop so badly in Japan, their BS lies and the west pirates their stuff.

Edited by Konoha'sCrimsonFox, 11 July 2015 - 06:20 PM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

I'm sure they will we they realized they burnt so much yen because this film will flop so badly in Japan, their BS lies and the west pirates their stuff.

 

I hope so, Crim, and I also hope Kishi learns the fact that no matter what you do, selling out won't give you a good story, especially if you just cave into editors and crap like that. After all, maybe it will make him retcon the ending so that it will show he can be a good writer, even if I doubt he's bold enough or smart enough to do that as of this point, since he won't even admit that he MADE A BIG MISTAKE.

[Bail o' Lies]

Why does Hinata look like she's 16? I don't mind her outfit but it's like they reduce her age from the Last to this movie, she went backwards instead of forward

SP are so in love with her that they refuse to make her look older. She always has to look beautiful the problem is she has to look what they consider beautiful (remember her nude waterfall scene their post about how neji was naughty for touching the twelve year old hinata's breast and so on), and i think they like younger women(girls). So she always has to look young/youthful the problem is that she is a housewife in thirties with two kids and yet she still looks like she is 15.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

SP are so in love with her that they refuse to make her look older. She always has to look beautiful the problem is she has to look what they consider beautiful (remember her nude waterfall scene their post about how neji was naughty for touching the twelve year old hinata's breast and so on), and i think they like younger women(girls). So she always has to look young/youthful the problem is that she is a housewife in thirties with two kids and yet she still looks like she is 15.

 

Yeah, that is stupid if you ask me, Bail. =/ It just shows their favoritism, like Kishi's with Sasuke and the Uchiha, has ruined Naruto to the point of no return so far, and nothing is gonna fix it unless someone could go back in time, or use telepathy, but since that isn't gonna happen, WE. ARE SO. SCREWED.

[Yyubie]

SP are so in love with her that they refuse to make her look older. She always has to look beautiful the problem is she has to look what they consider beautiful (remember her nude waterfall scene their post about how neji was naughty for touching the twelve year old hinata's breast and so on), and i think they like younger women(girls). So she always has to look young/youthful the problem is that she is a housewife in thirties with two kids and yet she still looks like she is 15.

WHAT?? you think they are into a lolicon ? Thats really creepy. But you right, SP make her looks like 17-20 years old, college or school girl. Naruto looks like my 40 years old uncle, sasuke looks like 25 years old and sakura looks like 35 years old. I don't understand why they like hinata soo much. There are a lot better and far more beautiful anime female character out there.

 

I suddenly have a feelings that it is because the VA Nana Mizuki. Maybe all of SP staff fall in love with her, or maybe Nana give a lot of support and donation for them.

[TheFirstEvil100]

 

I hope so, Crim, and I also hope Kishi learns the fact that no matter what you do, selling out won't give you a good story, especially if you just cave into editors and crap like that. After all, maybe it will make him retcon the ending so that it will show he can be a good writer, even if I doubt he's bold enough or smart enough to do that as of this point, since he won't even admit that he MADE A BIG MISTAKE.

Sadly the only way that it would work is if Kishi comes out and admits that he done this all for money, maybe then that would work.

[ichigo500]

 

 

ahh yes.. this is it. another movie that continuously feed peoples mind with so much nonsense.

 

if this was a year ago we are like:

 

Everything will be daijoubu

 

lol

 

and those character descriptions ...bravo!

Sasuke..jokes? lol what kind of mistranslation is this..

just goes to show how low this series had become

How about they give us the REAL CHARACTER DESCRIPTIONS??

 

should have been like this:

 

Uzumaki Naruto.

The BIG failure of the ninja world. He used to be a mischievous child but was sincere and full of dreams, now he cannot even protect a girl because he was getting rusty as he bury himself into his office with god knows what work he does with it.

He was supposed to be the MC of this series but was brainwashed to be Sasuke's underling and Hinata's D trophy.

He used to be the most sympathetic person during his prime due to his own sad experience of being alone with no parents or relatives to be there for him but has found a new family of his own in the presence of his teammates and mentors. However due to money and horny fans he ended up dying during his last fight with Sasuke and a new persona awakes. He is now a father who could not even know how to handle his own son when in fact he was shown to be good with problematic children even when he was young (i.e. Konohamaru). This new Naruto also found a new love of his life that he would rather grow senile in his office gorging cup ramen and sake.

 

He turns out to be a jerk like his best bud Sasuke who would go for a girl out of rivalry. He seems to have developed dementia and schizophrenia.

He now became a hokage like what he dreams of, but without the two precious people in his life. in the end he did not accomplish anything other than waste people's 15 years worth of time and dedication.

 

 

Uzumaki Hinata

The stalker who finally got the D (not ONCE but TWICE as her fans would fight a war of justifying), thanks to her huge racks and rabid fanboys but still remains irrelevant. Her special moves are "naruto-kun" and "Na-Naruto-kuuuuuuuuuuun" plus scarf making.

She cares for no one but her husbando Narudo-kuun and could care less about her bratty son. Her mere presence can ruin 15 years of development.

 

 

Uchiha Sasuke

The PURE child. He is actually the real MC of this show. His D brings all the fangirls in the yard. and could never be wronged or shamed.

His talent is to be a jerk without even trying. His hobby is to poke annoying girls on their forehead to make them believe that he cares.

Uchiha Sakura

developed dementia and schizophrenia like Naruto. She is the ultimate slave of the Uchihas

She is usually caring and strong-willed but all these disappears in the presence of her husbando Sasuke-kun

She has delusions and would even manipulate facts to make people believe her delusions.

She is terrible with photoshop and currently has a loan. Yes, along with Naruto she died during the war therefore the great medic was no more but a doormat who doesn't even know if her husband wars glasses. She is a nut case.

I have one question....why did they compare Boruto's height with Sasuke's (and all the other charactrs) but not with Naruto's ? 

Plus, what makes me laugh, is that in Sasuke's description, they neither mentioned Sakura nor Sarada ! 

Anyway, Hinata looks cute, but her outfit makes her look like a high school girl ! 

 

And this about Himawari " While it is still small, but it may have to help out his mother with chores around the house." Poor young little girl... 

[Swagkura]

The NaruHina family is literally so f**cking ugly
Naruto looks old and decrepit while Hinata looks like she's going to a playground with that tacky ass outfit. Sakura looks beautiful, and Sasuke's meh, but he still looks better than Naruto ever could. Guess that what happens when you're literally the hero of the story though
Don't even get me started on Himawari. Somebody please help that poor child...

[Bail o' Lies]

WHAT?? you think they are into a lolicon ? Thats really creepy. But you right, SP make her looks like 17-20 years old, college or school girl. Naruto looks like my 40 years old uncle, sasuke looks like 25 years old and sakura looks like 35 years old. I don't understand why they like hinata soo much. There are a lot better and far more beautiful anime female character out there.

 

I suddenly have a feelings that it is because the VA Nana Mizuki. Maybe all of SP staff fall in love with her, or maybe Nana give a lot of support and donation for them.

I really think they are. Also even if they love Nana their no reason for that to hold them back from making Hinata looking the right age. Since Nana is reaching her 40's right?

[rocci]

I really think they are. Also even if they love Nana their no reason for that to hold them back from making Hinata looking the right age. Since Nana is reaching her 40's right?

She's 35.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

She's 35.

 

Yeah, and to the Japanese, even that can be considered old XP