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[Advaith]

Ah ok. Thanks for the response.

By the way guys, people think we are/were delusional but if that's the case then how did we spark a fan website with 8,000+ members? Kishi's assistant or whoever may think we read the manga wrong but Narusaku was clearly there since we do have quite a large fan base. Many people thought the same way.

We are delusional

[Atheck]

By the way guys, people think we are/were delusional but if that's the case then how did we spark a fan website with 8,000+ members?

 

How many of those members are actively supporting proponents for the group's idealised pairing and principles though? Lurkers create accounts only to never use them afterwards. Then you have another segment of those accounts becoming inactive after seeing just a brief period of usage. In my opinion, it would be more accurate to question those of us who have remained with the website in a functioning capacity until now. You'll likely find only a tiny fraction of those 8,000+ that fits this criteria. 

[archangel]

 

Sigh. No, Kishimoto didn't say Sakura's love was changing. I know that's how we took it, but Viz's translation was more correct. It wasn't a crush anymore, it was 'selfless love'. That's why Kakashi says she wasn't confessing to make him hers, she wanted to save him. Also, again, Sasuke specifically said he was making people hate him to push them away. Him saying he didn't care about Sakura was an act. The second he turns good, what does he do? Apologizes to her. What happens the second Sasuke turns good and comes back? Sakura jumps on him and asks to go with him, even though that would mean leaving Naruto behind. She never loved Naruto. And Sasuke was always going to turn around and end up with Sakura. It's a manga about people being redeemed with words, and he was a main character. He wasn't going to up and die/disappear. Karin was also so unimportant to his story that she also vanishes along with Taka.

 

I'm sorry, but yes, a lot of the people in our fandom read way too much into Naruto. It was never complex, it was never a story about romance with ninjas on the side, it was never intricately plotted as such either. This is in his own words, he didn't put much romance in at all. He couldn't have been more blunt about this. And the proof is right there-SS/NH are canon. Kishimoto chose the most canon movie to be about Naruto falling in love with Hinata. Narusaku was a happy accident, but it's never going to end up canon;. That ship sailed a long, long time ago. From the moment they started working on that movie, NS was dead canon wise.

 

...You do realize Romeo and Juliet was a play mocking young love, right? And to compare a mangaka to Shakespeare...Did you guys think Naruto was high literature? They're ninjas who throw fire balls  and magic lightning at each other. I get being disappointed, but I'm starting to think you thought Naruto was something it never was...I mean jeeze, that "romantic" scene on the bench ends with Naruto having the runs....You can't fathom why a 'good writer' would go against the 'literary rules' and not write Narusaku. There is your answer. Under your terms, Kishimoto isn't a good writer. He recently said he was like Naruto, because no one thought he'd ever be a mangaka. He didn't start writing Naruto until he took a college course in script writing. That's his background.

 

 

 

http://www.saiyanisl...otos-childhood/

That's the point, it ain't high litterature. It's storytelling 101 lol. Main character got a love interest. Love interest love rival and hate main character. Main character has to win over the love interest while beating the rival. Rival giving the win in the fight to the main character, still get the girl while the the said love interest just regress to her 12 yeas old self. Main character never confess in the story his feeling. Plus the 1 million foreshadow and the never gives up attitude of the main character.
We never see him get any of his dream. Rival get a pardon that easily ( when he tried litteraly to take over the world, kill the 5 kage (1 like a mother to both the other main character)

He hook up with a girl who he barely interact in the manga. 

 

In other word and to put it simply, it is bad writting. Action should have shown Sasuke hesitate toward Sakura. Naruto should have been shown moving from Sakura to Hinata. Sakura should have been shown clearly loving Sasuke as a lover, not like family (693, it's team 7 bonds as family. Kakashi could have said that this girl pour her heart out for you, when he said not romantically, it's misleading) Never shown the random guy love letter or Sakura doesn't trust Sasuke. Don't parallel Sakura to Karin during life their saving attempt while Hinata trip. Don't make Naruto dad said : You take care of my son ( after the parallel with Kushina and the girlfriend question).

 

You don't have to look too deep to see that something went wrong. Either it's bad writting or selling out. Well anyway, we will know like 10 years later, when we won't care anymore.

[Aeria7Gloris]

 

Is the text legit? Sorry if someone asked already ^^'

[Askia31]

yes it is.

[Nar123]

 
Is the text legit? Sorry if someone asked already ^^'

Are they retconing 437 too? Naruto already knows hinata loves him lol

He conveniently forgot it?

Edited by Nar123, 20 November 2014 - 10:50 AM.

[Aeria7Gloris]

Holy kitten.

 

Well. Naruto is officially the literacy failure of the century.

[Lady_duckish]

I am still laughing about Naruto had just a crush for Sakura. How to retcon everything in just 110 minutes.

its so unnecessary. Why retcon or diminish his feelings (when your story proves otherwise) when you could simply say he moved on? Sometimes first love doesn't work out, but that doesnt mean those feelings for that person are diminished because you found someone else. He just looks like he's saying stuff to avoid responsibility for what he wrote. 

[Nar123]

Naruto is dumb or what? Took him 2 years to understand hinata loves him, even after she confessed ? Hahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha

[milan kyuubi]

So Naruto will realise something he already knew. And will magicly fall for Hinata in 10 min time!

 

BS LEVEL OVER 9000 !!!!!!!!

Edited by milan kyuubi, 20 November 2014 - 10:57 AM.

[Nar123]

its so unnecessary. Why retcon or diminish his feelings (when your story proves otherwise) when you could simply say he moved on?

To make NH look better

And bc hinata-hime cant look like a rebound (which she is)

Edited by Nar123, 20 November 2014 - 10:58 AM.

[Aeria7Gloris]

its so unnecessary. Why retcon or diminish his feelings (when your story proves otherwise) when you could simply say he moved on? Sometimes first love doesn't work out, but that doesnt mean those feelings for that person are diminished because you found someone else. He just looks like he's saying stuff to avoid responsibility for what he wrote. 

 

If you talk about the "pale love" stuff, it's an assumption of the interviewer, Kishimoto never said that.

Edited by Aeria7Gloris, 20 November 2014 - 10:57 AM.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

 

Its funny how all we see is Hinata's feelings, Hinata's love, and Hinata's scarf. What the kitten about her sister. Does she even care about her or is she just busy trying to get Naruto to love her.

What are you talking about? Her cousin died in front of her and she was "Naruto-kuning" all the way    

Calling a BS on all of this movie marketing, when I'll see it, I will know they f**cked up 15 years of story, about hard work, never giving up and bonds, but no with some kitten advertisement they throw at us. To those who saying "accept it" - I'll tell you, spent some years into anything, to just being "kitten you" in your face in the end. If you ok with this - well, too bad for you, good luck. But don't try to say this to other "It's his story, he's author" - yeah we knew this all along, THAT'S WHY we rage at him, not onto the characters.

Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 20 November 2014 - 11:05 AM.

[Chatte]

I am just gonna slowly drop this here: http://www.chatte-ge...uto-and-hinata/

 

I also have a request, can someone help me with the translation of this photo? Thanks a lot!

 

[lupina]

Lilac, would you invite your friends to a steakhouse, then go to "Mc Donalds" insteand and and tell them when they ask you what this was all about that they were "overintrpreting your words", should stop complaining and just "accept it"?

[Nar123]

Thanks I'll give them a try. Hopefully it can fill the hole that this manga has left me with.

There's also Chronicles of the seventh by Ramenrenegade, its 4 books right now with the fourth currently on going.
The first book suffers from grammar problems and the storyline isn't great, however the second and third one are really awesome. The fourth one is shaping up to be amazing too

The story doesn't exactly focus on romance though there's a separate chapter about Naruto and Sakura's wedding that its pretty funny

It completely rewrites the story from the end of the Pain saga, its a nice story to take as your headcanon

Edited by Nar123, 20 November 2014 - 12:03 PM.

[Nefertieh]

All the narusaku parallels cumulated to nothing and now there's a huge gaping hole in the story.

It would be like having Naruto stop chasing Sasuke, his brother, after the manga drilled in again and again that they were brothers with parallels between Indra/ Asura and Madara/ Hashirama. Nope, he finds someone else instead.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Its canon but it doesn't mean it makes sense my friend. The ending was rushed as hell, not only on the pairings side but about everything else too.

Editors play a huge role in shonen manga, examples are DBZ with the Buu saga (Toriyama wanted to put gohan as the final hero but the editors pressed for goku again) yuyu hakusho ( ended prematurely due to editors meddiling, years later the author would talk about how editors changed what he wanted to put in the story and he had to abide by their rules)

I guess the same thing happened to kishi.

Small fact: we had a debate in here about that and I was the one to defend that he wouldn't let it. Looks like I lost. Sorry, guys who went against me.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

I still ping pong back and forth on watching this kitten fest just so I can tear it apart piece by piece with scathing criticism