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[Canadian_DJ]

Actually, brackets in literature are generally used by individuals other than the author to add in missing text. This is very common in interviews, say when the interviewee forgets a word or hesitates while caught up in the moment. If this interview is actually correct, I would say that Kishi more than likely didn’t actually say the work “"Love."” Iit was probably injected by the individual translating the text or from the individual who quoted the text.

Welcome to H&E!! Good points!

@Narusaku4life3g our current topic is about the incorrect translation for the interview where people assume that kishi said sakura loves sasuke.

@haunted cake, no, there isn't gonna be a double chapter.

Edited by Canadian_DJ, 14 March 2013 - 10:44 AM.

[Chatte]

Actually, brackets in literature are generally used by individuals other than the author to add in missing text. This is very common in interviews, say when the interviewee forgets a word or hesitates while caught up in the moment. If this interview is actually correct, I would say that Kishi more than likely didn’t actually say the work “"Love."” Iit was probably injected by the individual translating the text or from the individual who quoted the text.

Actually my friend made it very clear about that part that the term used is "suki", same as in the confession scene.
It's not actually love, it's...how should I say it, the meaning of getting there...
However, there's a difference.

・サクラはやっぱりサスケが好きみたい
Looks like Sakura really does love Sasuke
* here the same word is used as when Sakura confessed to Naruto, 'suki' -> my friend's comment.

Here, there's the author's note type of thing you know. However, when asked, Kishi said that "She says she loves Sasuke but feels close to Naruto".

So, the difference is that whoever did this interview, took it as granted. However, to me, Kishi is very ambiguous.
As in, from Sakura's perspective "she says she loves Sasuke" - like Kishi saying that from her perspective. But that part of Naruto is close makes me feel like this is Sakura from Kishi's perspective. As in... I know what I am doing with her, what she actually feels.
Dunno how to explain it properly...

[redragon88]

@Chatte

I'm not quite following. Does Kishi say "Looks like Sakura really does love Sasuke" but then says "She says she loves Sasuke but feels close to Naruto"?

Am I getting that right? It feels kind of contradictory. And what happened to "Naruto feels close to her heart" was that a wrong translation?

Edited by redragon88, 14 March 2013 - 01:02 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I think someome said "Looks like Sakura really does love Sasuke" as a question and then kishi replied with this "She says she loves Sasuke but feels close to Naruto"

The ambiguity comes from the fact that the part "she says she loves sasuke" comes from Sakura's perspective and the part "but feels close to Naruto" it's from Kishi's perspective.
it's this right chatte?

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 14 March 2013 - 01:13 PM.

[Chatte]

@Chatte

I'm not quite following. Does Kishi say "Looks like Sakura really does love Sasuke" but then says "She says she loves Sasuke but feels close to Naruto"?

Am I getting that right? It feels kind of contradictory. And what happened to "Naruto feels close to her heart" was that a wrong translation?

No, that part with looks like Sakura really does love Sasuke was from the person that was present at the interview. Call it, the narrator.
And no, that part is a right translation.

What I was trying to see is that when Kishi said that -she says she loves sasuke- is him, talking from the character's perspective, as in Sakura's perspective.
But when he says that "Naruto is close to her heart" is from his perspective, like what he intends with that character.
Does it make any sense?
Gah, is so hard to explain!

[redragon88]

@Chatte

Easy, easy. It makes sense, it makes sense.

[Chatte]

@Chatte

Easy, easy. It makes sense, it makes sense.

Phew! Glad I cleared that up! ^^

[HauntedCake]

No, that part with looks like Sakura really does love Sasuke was from the person that was present at the interview. Call it, the narrator.
And no, that part is a right translation.

What I was trying to see is that when Kishi said that -she says she loves sasuke- is him, talking from the character's perspective, as in Sakura's perspective.
But when he says that "Naruto is close to her heart" is from his perspective, like what he intends with that character.
Does it make any sense?
Gah, is so hard to explain!

Let me take a shot at this.

Your saying that from Kishi's perspective, Naruto is close to Sakura's heart.

Kishi saying "she says she loves Sasuke", is this meant as a statement or something to lead us to doubt her feeling for Sasuke?

This really is a difficult topic

[Gravenimage]

Let me take a shot at this.

Your saying that from Kishi's perspective, Naruto is close to Sakura's heart.

Kishi saying "she says she loves Sasuke", is this meant as a statement or something to lead us to doubt her feeling for Sasuke?

This really is a difficult topic

Kishi has to be ambiguous because he has to. He's not going to say" Sakura loves Naruto now' because it will be giving spoilers it will destroy the manga not to mention the NH and SS fandom will go insane. Although the fans namely the Japanese already know Naruto loves Sakura and she loves him they're just enjoying the story and patiently waiting what does he has in store for the two when the time is right. Seriously has there ever been a magaka that gives spoilers on interviews? No, people all mangaka gives briefs descriptions for the future of their stories but they're not going to enter into details that will lead to spoilers. Can we forget about the interview from 5 five years ago? Please.

Edited by Gravenimage, 14 March 2013 - 03:17 PM.

[soraandven]

naruto's opinion on women with big boobs so sorry hinata lol

[TouKen4Life3g]

If Kishi really being ambiguous, then you know that he's still working on it, rather than say Naruto and Sakura are only good friends. This love triangle is not over. It may be in the next arc.

[Canadian_DJ]

Kishi has to be ambiguous because he has to. He's not going to say" Sakura loves Naruto now' because it will be giving spoilers it will destroy the manga not to mention the NH and SS fandom will go insane. Although the fans namely the Japanese already know Naruto loves Sakura and she loves him they're just enjoying the story and patiently waiting what does he has in store for the two when the time is right. Seriously has there ever been a magaka that gives spoilers on interviews? No, people all mangaka gives briefs descriptions for the future of their stories but they're not going to enter into details that will lead to spoilers. Can we forget about the interview from 5 five years ago? Please.

Nicely said.But even though its an interview 5-no wait less than that it was in 2010 or 11 and now we're in 2013 so thats basically 2 years and a half or so, keep In mind we just began 2013-but regardless of the year, its still significant information.

@chatte Thanks a TON! man you always seem to make my day! thank you! Im really fond of you! Especially your sakura analysis! I read the whole thing and if theres more to come im more than ready!!

Btw guys I made a topic back in november when I joined, about the haruno symbol on narutos kyubi cloak, and wow did it get attention! On NF narusaku fanclub, the one paptala owns, alotta people seemed to pick up on it, and its nice to hear.Go check it out, its in icha icha narusaku.

Now If you'll excuse me while I continue ice skating

[bthug]

Naruto saving Sakura and she smilling at him when he was sleeping.

2 years.

God damn thats a long time ago...could that mean anything?

[T XD]

God damn thats a long time ago...could that mean anything?

If it's from a long time ago, it doesn't mean that it's not legit anymore. It still just means a source from Kishi.

Edited by T XD, 14 March 2013 - 05:44 PM.

[Inferno180]

Kishi was basically advocating to this interviewer 2 perspective statements then,

how sakura's current mentality was how she says she loves sasuke

but from his own view, naruto is close to sakura's heart.

Its not that long ago considering this is after the confession but hey its better for him to keep us in the dark about this,

either way we know Sakura has close feelings with Naruto, not necessarily love but she likes him a lot we can confirm. No need to mention all the stuff and reasons for Naruto not being over Sakura, I mean he should still love her, even in some big moment of hand holding with hinata, he just lets go again. Once more we just need to wait till we see stuff with them but there is just too much support for NaruSaku and so many more logical reasons saying NaruSaku is still alive, even with no focus on Naruto's feelings for Sakura in over 2 years! I mean road to ninja, even fillers advocating NaruSaku more than NaruHina still counts for something. And with recent Hinata events, well if many minor characters are getting fulfillment, thats what you do in a story give full development to the lesser characters first, you always give final development to your main cast. So yeah Sakura is going to be one of the last to be fulfilled in this war arc or the next, Naruto and Sasuke are dead last to finish. Hinata got her moment so I would not expect anything major from her considering Neji had to die for her development (even then its like she gave no concern about Neji, I find it funny many Neji fans hate Hinata now for that one moment).

[TouKen4Life3g]

God damn thats a long time ago...could that mean anything?

It does. It means this arc is too damn long. But seriously, it doesn't mean anything for NS. I believe one year took a good amount focus on day 1, which is side characters focus central. Day 2 is all about Naruto interacting/clearing with other characters. Still not done because Team 7 hasn't interact with Naruto, so expect a big focus soon.

[Dkey]

I think someone said that Kishi said in 2008 that he will develop Kakashi. we are in 2013 and Kakashi still has issues. Heck Obito kinda blames the 4th shinobi war on Kakashi.


But I noticed that team 7 or more exactly the love triangle arcs are the ones where we see Sakura taking some action.

[Inferno180]

Its as I said, minor characters finish up first, main get their final development last. There has to be some downtime, I mean something to stall the action. The whole 9 tails army chakra thing won't last or be an advantage forever, the ten tails can go crazy now that Obito and Madara were cut off from it. Not to mention one of the biggest things for Sakura and Sai not getting it or being seen is because something else is in store for them, many think this could lead to the Sakura power-up or more character development we have been speculating for some time, mainly around Tsunade's heavy injured state. I can see it happening, downtime comes or we shift our prespective to Sakura and Sai and the current situation of the 5 kage.

[Sojobo]

Its as I said, minor characters finish up first, main get their final development last. There has to be some downtime, I mean something to stall the action. The whole 9 tails army chakra thing won't last or be an advantage forever, the ten tails can go crazy now that Obito and Madara were cut off from it. Not to mention one of the biggest things for Sakura and Sai not getting it or being seen is because something else is in store for them, many think this could lead to the Sakura power-up or more character development we have been speculating for some time, mainly around Tsunade's heavy injured state. I can see it happening, downtime comes or we shift our prespective to Sakura and Sai and the current situation of the 5 kage.

Yup, and don't forget that Kishimoto said that there will be many deads in this battle. Neji was just the first one.
And Neji's developpement is Hinata's developpement. That's why we are seeing her having screentime. Of course, it was a good time to make fanservice.

Edited by Sojobo, 14 March 2013 - 08:33 PM.

[HauntedCake]

Been playing through Ninja storm 3 recently and i just watched the epic long Kushina x Naruto talk when he trains to control the 9 tails.

Kushina asked naruto to do many things just before she died such as, eat properly, respect your teachers and make lots of friends etc etc. Most importantly she talked about girls, which leads me to my points:

Kushina asked Naruto to find a girl like her and >>>NOT GO FOR THE FIRST GIRL HE SEES!!!<<< this is bolded as i believe this is important. On the flip side it is undoubtably noticeable that Sakura is very similar to Kushina, no need to go down that route.

At first Naruto did completely the opposite Kushina asked him to do:

only eats ramen (unhealthy)
deliberatly gets into trouble (seeking attention), but more importantly disrespected all including teachers
unfortunatly not being able to make friends was obviously because of the villagers seeing the nine tails not naruto.

After the conversation Naruto promised he would change his eating habits. At this point Naruto already had respect and respected all his friends and teachers. Lastly he has made many friends. So 3/4 checked and done....


Now if i'm correct Sakura was the first girl he fell in love with.... this sounds very extreme but...does this mean that being the first girl that he went for that this could eventually change? I hope to god not but.... as long as it isn't Hinata i'd be fine.


Just a thought that came up whilst i was playing Ninja storm 3 and wanted to share it with you guys.

EDIT - i am not basing what i say here on the game. This i based on the manga

Edited by HauntedCake, 14 March 2013 - 09:35 PM.