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#12521 Chatte

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 03:24 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Mar 13 2013, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Really? Not that I'm complaining or anything, but how many translations of that interview are there now? laugh.gif

I thought the translation was "Naruto is close and she cares for him as well but still... Sasuke", with the empty part before Sasuke implying love.

Chatte did your friend do a literal translation or what she thought the translation implied. I only ask because sometimes japanese can't be accurately translated into english so translating something literally can give a different meaning. It could very well be that my translation is the literal one but the correct meaning is what your friend told you. I don't really know for sure. tongue.gif


There was no buts there. She works as a proffesional translator and lived there, studied for 3 years.
So, basically, what she translated you could say it's the most accurate thing. What it literally meant, not implied.
I always double-asks her if things are really like that because I know how skeptical people are.
Same happened with that Sakura status as a heroine, someone said that no, it wasn't good, although I double checked with her.
And she explained to that person why things were like that, what it meant, the verbs, everything.
Here is the thing I was talking about: http://chatteart.dev...050059#comments
It goes to page 2, even.
So, trust me, she knows what she's talking. If I ever trusted someone with being impartial, it's her.
She isn't even into shipping. She stopped reading Naruto because of Itachi, being her favorite character.
So, it's what you could say, an impartial translation.
That's why every time I have something, I ask her.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 03:51 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Mar 13 2013, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There was no buts there. She works as a proffesional translator and lived there, studied for 3 years.
So, basically, what she translated you could say it's the most accurate thing. What it literally meant, not implied.
I always double-asks her if things are really like that because I know how skeptical people are.
Same happened with that Sakura status as a heroine, someone said that no, it wasn't good, although I double checked with her.
And she explained to that person why things were like that, what it meant, the verbs, everything.
Here is the thing I was talking about: http://chatteart.dev...050059#comments
It goes to page 2, even.
So, trust me, she knows what she's talking. If I ever trusted someone with being impartial, it's her.
She isn't even into shipping. She stopped reading Naruto because of Itachi, being her favorite character.
So, it's what you could say, an impartial translation.
That's why every time I have something, I ask her.

She translated the heroine part we are asking for the past where he talks about the love triangle....
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 03:57 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 13 2013, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She translated the heroine part we are asking for the past where he talks about the love triangle....


I know. I was giving an example to show reddragon that she knows what she's talking about.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:05 PM

QUOTE (HauntedCake @ Mar 13 2013, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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When sakura hugs sasuke like this in part 1 it makes my heart sink... poor Naruto.. sad.gif

don't know if this picture is legit but i cant find the manga one


Well, whats funny is that in the anime the way they made the hug thats sakura gave sasuke in this image is romantic, like shes squeezing herself on him, but in the manga, shes not so close to sasuke, she has her arms wrapped on hes chest but her chest isn't squished into sasukes back and her face isn't resting on sasukes back either, I know these are minor differences but they makw a big difference.

And about the inerview, yes kishi indeed doesn't directly say love in it, on the contrary all he says is "naruto is close and she still cares for him but still..sasuke" this one sounds legit, but I dont think thr one I was talking about before was right or yhe one darkrerst was talking about either, or this one "she says she loves sasuke but naruto is close to her heart" I don think this is correct either, cuz sakura never said she loves sasuke.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:08 PM

QUOTE (Canadian_DJ @ Mar 13 2013, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, whats funny is that in the anime the way they made the hug thats sakura gave sasuke in this image is romantic, like shes squeezing herself on him, but in the manga, shes not so close to sasuke, she has her arms wrapped on hes chest but her chest isn't squished into sasukes back and her face isn't resting on sasukes back either, I know these are minor differences but they makw a big difference.

And about the inerview, yes kishi indeed doesn't directly say love in it, on the contrary all he says is "naruto is close and she still cares for him but still..sasuke" this one sounds legit, but I dont think thr one I was talking about before was right or yhe one darkrerst was talking about either, or this one "she says she loves sasuke but naruto is close to her heart" I don think this is correct either, cuz sakura never said she loves sasuke.

This translations is also wrong since there's no verb on it either.

Someome plz get the raw and post it here at least.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:13 PM

Not to butt in, but can I see a link to this comment or whatever it is from? Is this the whole Sakura confession interview?

I've read about this one over at the NarutoXSakura FC on deviantart, http://narutoxsakura...view-334624389#

This was what they found:

One of the interviewers: “Sakura had always been worried about Naruto, but her actions towards Naruto seem to have a different feel from before, she seems very anxious about Naruto…How does she feel about Sasuke-kun?”

Kishimoto: “As for Sakura… Sasuke… what about Sasuke? Naruto is close and she worries about Naruto as well, but as expected, she [loves] Sasuke.

Interviewer: "Because of this, she acted quite haughty towards that guy. She used Naruto’s love for her and told him she loved him."

Kishimoto: "On the contrary…. I felt like depicting an honest girl, with a surprisingly stubborn impression.”

And Kishimoto also comments:

"So... she became such a character, but... well... from here on, maybe I should draw her showing a bit more spirit.
I figured I had placed her in a heroin-like situation
But from the readers I was told harshly that she wasn't heroin-ish at all
Perhaps I should show depict her a bit more like a heroin
Because you say 'Hinata Hinata,' I say 'She's not Hinata'"

Is this the same thing?

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:17 PM

QUOTE (Inferno180 @ Mar 13 2013, 01:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not to butt in, but can I see a link to this comment or whatever it is from? Is this the whole Sakura confession interview?

I've read about this one over at the NarutoXSakura FC on deviantart, http://narutoxsakura...view-334624389#

This was what they found:

One of the interviewers: “Sakura had always been worried about Naruto, but her actions towards Naruto seem to have a different feel from before, she seems very anxious about Naruto…How does she feel about Sasuke-kun?”

Kishimoto: “As for Sakura… Sasuke… what about Sasuke? Naruto is close and she worries about Naruto as well, but as expected, she [loves] Sasuke.

Interviewer: "Because of this, she acted quite haughty towards that guy. She used Naruto’s love for her and told him she loved him."

Kishimoto: "On the contrary…. I felt like depicting an honest girl, with a surprisingly stubborn impression.”

And Kishimoto also comments:

"So... she became such a character, but... well... from here on, maybe I should draw her showing a bit more spirit.
I figured I had placed her in a heroin-like situation
But from the readers I was told harshly that she wasn't heroin-ish at all
Perhaps I should show depict her a bit more like a heroin
Because you say 'Hinata Hinata,' I say 'She's not Hinata'"

Is this the same thing?

Kishimoto: “As for Sakura… Sasuke… what about Sasuke? Naruto is close and she worries about Naruto as well, but as expected, she [loves] Sasuke.

Interviewer: "Because of this, she acted quite haughty towards that guy. She used Naruto’s love for her and told him she loved him."

Kishimoto: "On the contrary…. I felt like depicting an honest girl, with a surprisingly stubborn impression.”


Cant you see the contradiction on those two speechs.
He said first that she "loves" Sasuke implicity but on the second he says that she was honest when she said she loved Naruto.

I believe that this translation is wrong.

I'm not denying the fact that she "loves" Sasuke but i cant take both statements seriously looks like he get lost on his own love triangle.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 13 March 2013 - 04:23 PM.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:23 PM

QUOTE (Canadian_DJ @ Mar 13 2013, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And about the inerview, yes kishi indeed doesn't directly say love in it, on the contrary all he says is "naruto is close and she still cares for him but still..sasuke" this one sounds legit, but I dont think thr one I was talking about before was right or yhe one darkrerst was talking about either, or this one "she says she loves sasuke but naruto is close to her heart" I don think this is correct either, cuz sakura never said she loves sasuke.


She did say back in part 1. Maybe that was the trick here.
As for the translation, I trust my friend for translating it good, as I said.
But meh, to each his own.

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 13 2013, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kishimoto: “As for Sakura… Sasuke… what about Sasuke? Naruto is close and she worries about Naruto as well, but as expected, she [loves] Sasuke.

Interviewer: "Because of this, she acted quite haughty towards that guy. She used Naruto’s love for her and told him she loved him."

Kishimoto: "On the contrary…. I felt like depicting an honest girl, with a surprisingly stubborn impression.”


Cant you see the contradiction on those two speechs.
He said first that she "loves" Sasuke implicity but on the second he says that she was honest when she said she loved Naruto.

I believe that this translation is wrong.

I'm not denying the fact that she "loves" Sasuke but i cant take both statements seriously looks like he get lost on his own love triangle.

That's why I felt the translation my friend did, fits better.
Why? Because "Naruto is close to her heart" equals to what Kishi said about an honest girl with a surprisingly stubborn impression and that part with she says she loves Sasuke would be the referral at Sakura's confusion of her feelings.
In other words, Kishi saying, but not telling the outcome of this that actually she thinks she loves Sasuke but, as Yamato said, in reality, she loves Naruto.
Dunno if it made a lot of sense, it's a bit hard to explain.

Edited by Chatte, 13 March 2013 - 04:27 PM.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:28 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 13 2013, 09:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kishimoto: “As for Sakura… Sasuke… what about Sasuke? Naruto is close and she worries about Naruto as well, but as expected, she [loves] Sasuke.

Interviewer: "Because of this, she acted quite haughty towards that guy. She used Naruto’s love for her and told him she loved him."

Kishimoto: "On the contrary…. I felt like depicting an honest girl, with a surprisingly stubborn impression.”


Cant you see the contradiction on those two speechs.
He said first that she "loves" Sasuke implicity but on the second he says that she was honest when she said she loved Naruto.

I believe that this translation is wrong.

I'm not denying the fact that she "loves" Sasuke but i cant take both statements seriously looks like he get lost on his own love triangle.


There's also another version of the interview where Kishi says "loved" in past sense with Sakura loving Sasuke I don't know if that's the correct version.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:30 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Mar 13 2013, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's also another version of the interview where Kishi says "loved" in past sense with Sakura loving Sasuke I don't know if that's the correct version.

the only thing i know is that this version that is posted is wrong.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:32 PM

I will ask my friend again what's the implication behind all that. To translate with meanings and everything, if she feels like there's a meaning behind and everything.
If you guys want, of course..,

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:35 PM

So, what's the topic here? The interview or...?

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:46 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 13 2013, 01:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, what's the topic here? The interview or...?

Reasons for Naruto to still chase after Sasuke and not be called gay.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:49 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 13 2013, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Reasons for Naruto to still chase after Sasuke and not be called gay.

Is...that really true? Are we really on short of topics? Granted, no chapter this week makes this a slow week, but yeah. Nothing wrong with that, I guess, just this is NS debate, not SN debate. Haha, I noticed the two letters.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:50 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 13 2013, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is...that really true? Are we really on short of topics? Granted, no chapter this week makes this a slow week, but yeah. Nothing wrong with that, I guess, just this is NS debate, not SN debate. Haha, I noticed the two letters.

Yes we are, NS is slow paced.
We got 2 years with no NS moments.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:55 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ Mar 13 2013, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes we are, NS is slow paced.
We got 2 years with no NS moments.

That is true though we did get those parallel. Nevertheless, I know what you mean. It doesn't help that the flashback is currently ongoing. I wonder why Kishi is doing this now. Then again, maybe it does serve a break time. Unless, there's something behind this, but we'll see.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 05:07 PM

need.... narusaku moment.... this year...........


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Posted 13 March 2013 - 05:16 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Mar 13 2013, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I will ask my friend again what's the implication behind all that. To translate with meanings and everything, if she feels like there's a meaning behind and everything.
If you guys want, of course..,


oh Please do that @Chatte!!
those mistranslations is what makes things worse in this fandom.
The best example is how people still say that Kishi said that Hinata would be a better heroine than Sakura even after it has already been proven wrong.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 05:24 PM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Mar 13 2013, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
need.... narusaku moment.... this year...........

I believe that we will get one this year. Everything is all set up for it and now, we wait for that to exploit.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 05:28 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 13 2013, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I believe that we will get one this year. Everything is all set up for it and now, we wait for that to exploit.


I hope for that too!! I'll be happy with a Sakura moment too. happy.gif

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