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[Sojobo]

To see Naruto with Hinata seems very unnatural, while the original picture with Sakura looks more accurate to what could happen at the end of the manga. This retouched picture gives me the same inpression that every NH fanarts give me: it's just a fanfiction pairing that is way too unnatural to happen.

It's like Goku fusing with Mr.Satan or Piccolo, it's so unnatural.

Hyuuga will always make children with Hyuuga, not because they cannot make children with other clans, but because it's just unnatural.

Child will definitly be ugly. If Hyuuga could desactivate Byakugan like Sharingan, there will be no problem, but they cannot.

 

A NS child, is like Minato/Kushina child. One Uzumaki with a normal person. Blond hair with red/rose hair.

I don't understand why people can't see the evidence and parallel yet.

 

It really makes me laugh.

Edited by Sojobo, 28 December 2013 - 02:24 PM.

[sushi.]

I think the copy looks unnatural because the tension in the picture is light and fluffy. All the colours are like that, light and bright. Then there is Hinata's haircolour of darkness. XD And her smile is OOC, it should be more timid and with a closed mouth.

[咲耶姫]

I wasn't talking about the appearance of the picture, I was talking in general. Whenever I see a NH fanart, it seems forced and doesn't seems "natural" when you compare to what actually happens in the manga. When I said the picture looked "unnatural", I was talking about the atmosphere of the picture, the fact that Hinata looks out of place, not Hinata's look, Hinata herself. You know it's like this NH retouched picture from chapter 450 where they replaced Sakura with Hinata hugging Naruto, it looks so OOC, while with Sakura it was normal and natural to see it.

[sushi.]

I wasn't talking about the appearance of the picture, I was talking in general. Whenever I see a NH fanart, it seems forced and doesn't seems "natural" when you compare to what actually happens in the manga. When I said the picture looked "unnatural", I was talking about the atmosphere of the picture, the fact that Hinata looks out of place, not Hinata's look, Hinata herself. You know it's like this NH retouched picture from chapter 450 where they replaced Sakura with Hinata hugging Naruto, it looks so OOC, while with Sakura it was normal and natural to see it.

I know, but I wasn't. I was talking about the picture. Because it's a bit unfair to blame the picture for a bad pairing. Apparently NH fans thinks Hinata fits in there. So I criticized the work instead, ignoring my dislike for the pairing and my bs.

Edited by sushi., 28 December 2013 - 03:16 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Not to be the big head but it feels like our arts in most case isn't as far fetched as others when it comes to doing something similar to the work that we just brought in. I mean when you look at all Ladygt works, it doesn't scream, "Yeah, right. Not a chance in hell." But that's just my opinion.

[咲耶姫]

I know, but I wasn't. I was talking about the picture. Because it's a bit unfair to blame the picture for a bad pairing. Apparently NH fans thinks Hinata fits in there. So I criticized the work instead, ignoring my dislike for the pairing and my bs.

Oh ok, in this case I agree but since it's just a retouched picture and not an original NH fanart, it's normal that it looks weird. That's because they keeped Sakura's traits but they change some color to make her look like Hinata. So it can't be helped but looking weird.

 

Not to be the big head but it feels like our arts in most case isn't as far fetched as others when it comes to doing something similar to the work that we just brought in. I mean when you look at all Ladygt works, it doesn't scream, "Yeah, right. Not a chance in hell." But that's just my opinion.

I don't get what you mean...

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
I don't get what you mean...

It's like what you said. You can't image Hinata doing whatever that screams "OoC".

[咲耶姫]

It's like what you said. You can't image Hinata doing whatever that screams "OoC".

Oh yes, now I get it. But all that is just a matter of opinion. NH fans must be thinking the same thing as you, but in the other way around. It's sad, but it's like that and no one will change its mind until the end of the manga.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Oh yes, now I get it. But all that is just a matter of opinion. NH fans must be thinking the same thing as you, but in the other way around. It's sad, but it's like that and no one will change its mind until the end of the manga.

Yeah I know. It's just that I like it when it's matched to the character. Even if NaruSaku gets something too cutesy, I have to see if it match well. But then again, it is fanart, so I really shouldn't think much.

[sushi.]

It's like what you said. You can't image Hinata doing whatever that screams "OoC".

I think it's just that you replace one character with another. Even if Hinata does get with Naruto in the future, she will not act or look like Sakura at all. These kinds of pictures gives the idea that it doesn't matter who Naruto marries, because it'll be the same anyway. Like anyone can fill the same role, and people just wish that 'x character was in their place' instead.

[MangaReader]

The only type of fan art that is completely OOC to me is Sasuke and Sakura art. It almost always depicts Sasuke as something he never was and never will be. Naruto and Hinata art is somewhat in this boat, but I can believe Naruto would treat Hinata pretty well and that Hinata would have to be growing some sort of spine in the relationship (all opinionated). And I know other ships love to bring up that Sakura dating Naruto would seem like a rebound, but I think that is such a lousy argument and capable to the same argument that Sakura would be abusive or that Naruto and Sakura only think of each other as siblings (which is still the type of relationship that is well liked in Japan from my understanding). So maybe I'm just blind, but of coarse anything Naruto and Sakura related seems natural, because Naruto will not change his feelings regardless of what Sakura does and it seems quite clear that Sakura has feelings for Naruto.  

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

The only type of fan art that is completely OOC to me is Sasuke and Sakura art. It almost always depicts Sasuke as something he never was and never will be. Naruto and Hinata art is somewhat in this boat, but I can believe Naruto would treat Hinata pretty well and that Hinata would have to be growing some sort of spine in the relationship (all opinionated). And I know other ships love to bring up that Sakura dating Naruto would seem like a rebound, but I think that is such a lousy argument and capable to the same argument that Sakura would be abusive or that Naruto and Sakura only think of each other as siblings (which is still the type of relationship that is well liked in Japan from my understanding). So maybe I'm just blind, but of coarse anything Naruto and Sakura related seems natural, because Naruto will not change his feelings regardless of what Sakura does and it seems quite clear that Sakura has feelings for Naruto.  

Actually, Sasuke is mostly Tsun Tsun(cold, jerk) when ti comes to the way he acts and Sakura mostly Dere Dere.

I actually read The Sacred Blacksmith until the end obviously.(The manga actually didnt ended but the light novel which the manga is based off ended in august on book 16).
Where the main character is a heroine and she is a Tsundere and the guy she likes is a Tsun Tsun much like Sasuke, despite not having a love triangle, i disliked that standard because i dont find it appealing(There are people who enjoy Tsun Tsun + Tsundere(mostly Dere).

Anyway, he acted much like Sasuke with Sakura on part 1, like used to treat her cold and etc.. but with the difference is that he actually supported her and that Sasuke never did, even when he calls her uninskilled sounds like some sort of teasing much like Sasuke did "you're annoying" when he left Konoha.

Anyway to finish up the heroine ended with this guy for two/three years and they had two kids and he died half a month after the birth of his second son, then the story skip to 300 years later, showing their descendant.

But in the end, the relationship was monotonous/flat anything you can name it.

 

This is the reason that i dislike Sasu/Saku, i only actually hated that pairing in particular but after reading other mangas, i found out that i hated that standard, and with a valid reason at least.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 28 December 2013 - 07:34 PM.

[MangaReader]

Actually i'll tend to disagree, Sasuke is mostly Tsun Tsun(cold, jerk) when ti comes to the way he acts and Sakura mostly Dere Dere.

I actually read The Sacred Blacksmith until the end obviously.(The manga actually didnt ended but the light novel which the manga is based off ended in august on book 16).
Where the Main heroine is a Tsundere and the guy she likes is a Tsun Tsun much like Sasuke, despite not having a love triangle, i disliked that standard because it's bad to my standards.

Anyway, he acted much like Sasuke with Sakura on part 1, like used to treat her cold and etc.. but with the difference is that he actually supported her and that Sasuke never did, even when he calls her annoying or calls her uninskilled sounds like some sort of teasing much like Sasuke did when he departed from Konoha.

Anyway to finish up the heroine ended with this guy for two/three and they have two kids and he died half a month later, then the story skip to 300 years later.

But in the end, the relationship was monotonous/flat anything you can name it.

 

This is the reason that i dislike Sasu/Saku, i only actually hated that pairing in particular but after reading other mangas, i found out that i hated that standard, and with a valid reason at least.

Maybe I should have clarified better, I'm talking about the art where Sasuke is actually smiling (not psychotically), caring in non-intense situations, and well as I said, someone he's not. I get some fan art actually depicts Sasuke as the cold shoulder guy he is, but there is a lot of SasuSaku fan art out there that makes Sasuke out to be this guy who cannot express his feelings and try to forgive him for his actions and others make him out to have Naruto's personality. That's where I was coming from ^^; Or I am I misunderstanding you here? 

 

On to my own sorta conclusion for why I don't find SasuSaku likable

I cannot honestly see any sort of healthy relationship for SasuSaku and I don't understand what their shippers (do these people really exist, I feel it's just a subship for NaruHina fans and Sakura haters) see. SasuSaku feels completely impossible without Sasuke somehow getting brainwashed into thinking he was some cheerful, energetic, carefree person who acknowledges everyone he sees (oh boy, I just described the main character), because I cannot see a 360 happening. Kishi may not be the greatest writer, but I don't think he's that horrible of a writer. That's just not good story telling, especially when the hero is basically accomplishing everything he hoped he would. I hate making out these pairings as prizes, but it's basically come to that lately... Anyway, Sakura's feelings are for a Sasuke that never existed, because of Naruto shooting himself in the foot by setting all this in the first place. I hope that bench sense gets looked at again in the future

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Maybe I should have clarified better, I'm talking about the art where Sasuke is actually smiling (not psychotically), caring in non-intense situations, and well as I said, someone he's not. I get some fan art actually depicts Sasuke as the cold shoulder guy he is, but there is a lot of SasuSaku fan art out there that makes Sasuke out to be this guy who cannot express his feelings and try to forgive him for his actions and others make him out to have Naruto's personality. That's where I was coming from ^^; Or I am I misunderstanding you here? 

 

On to my own sorta conclusion for why I don't find SasuSaku likable

I cannot honestly see any sort of healthy relationship for SasuSaku and I don't understand what their shippers (do these people really exist, I feel it's just a subship for NaruHina fans and Sakura haters) see. SasuSaku feels completely impossible without Sasuke somehow getting brainwashed into thinking he was some cheerful, energetic, carefree person who acknowledges everyone he sees (oh boy, I just described the main character), because I cannot see a 360 happening. Kishi may not be the greatest writer, but I don't think he's that horrible of a writer. That's just not good story telling, especially when the hero is basically accomplishing everything he hoped he would. I hate making out these pairings as prizes, but it's basically come to that lately... Anyway, Sakura's feelings are for a Sasuke that never existed, because of Naruto shooting himself in the foot by setting all this in the first place. I hope that bench sense gets looked at again in the future

Sorry i didnt disagreed with you edited my post.

My bad.

 

 

I think i adressed it on my post, i think probably your standard of a healthy relationship would be Sakura being more openly and a more "happy" relationship like it is with Naruto, they are more outgoing than being something closed and monotonous, i dislike that and due to your post i think you also dislike that standard too.
On The sacred Blacksmith, the heroine even took off her clothes to him and then he rejected her and she ended up crying, then it was cut off to another scene.
Two chapters later she runs towards his house and make a marriage proposal the entire chapter is her confession and in the end he asnwer with "i quite love you".

And then they get engaged.

Despite being engaged it doesnt change the approach it keeps being the same and the author start his focus on the plot.

 

It is an approach completely equal to a relationship of SasuSaku, there's no appealing(for me), it's flat and monotonous.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 28 December 2013 - 08:01 PM.

[MangaReader]

Sorry i didnt disagreed withi edited my post.

My bad.

Nah, it's cool... I figured it was something like a typo considering I was reading how you didn't like SasuSaku in the first place XD

[LadyGT]

Guys I just scrolled down the narusaku tag and on an anti post it was written that they talked about the 631 moment at the Jump Festa. Apparently Kishimoto enjoyed drawing that moment a lot. Go check it out, I don't have enough time to link the script!

[Hiraishin]

Guys I just scrolled down the narusaku tag and on an anti post it was written that they talked about the 631 moment at the Jump Festa. Apparently Kishimoto enjoyed drawing that moment a lot. Go check it out, I don't have enough time to link the script!

Yeah, I saw that too... This is what I said:

Then Takeuchi said: "I liked the detail of Naruto's girlfriend" and Chie replied to him, "are you talking about me?". Both started laughing, Kishimoto did the same and then said it was a moment that he enjoyed drawing.

I was going to post it but I didn't find it anywhere else... And also it said Chie replied to him, and Takeuchi is a girl lol. Maybe that's just a translation error or something. Hopefully this can be verified.

[LadyGT]

^ maybe she was impersonating Naruto in that moment xD

[咲耶姫]

Guys I just scrolled down the narusaku tag and on an anti post it was written that they talked about the 631 moment at the Jump Festa. Apparently Kishimoto enjoyed drawing that moment a lot. Go check it out, I don't have enough time to link the script!

 

 

Yeah, I saw that too... This is what I said:

Then Takeuchi said: "I liked the detail of Naruto's girlfriend" and Chie replied to him, "are you talking about me?". Both started laughing, Kishimoto did the same and then said it was a moment that he enjoyed drawing.

I was going to post it but I didn't find it anywhere else... And also it said Chie replied to him, and Takeuchi is a girl lol. Maybe that's just a translation error or something. Hopefully this can be verified.

 

I think it's fake. I read nowhere such a thing, even on the NaruSaku blog.

But I read that there indeed were some NaruSaku things, but nothing too big it's as big as the "SasuSaku" moment that was supposed to be on this JF, you know the "Sasuke-kun?" "Sakura huh?".

Apparently, they played the scene where Naruto's affraid of her superhuman strength. 

Here is a NS japanese blog about the JF in case someone have the time to tranlate some parts. I'd like to do it, but I have unfortunately no time.

http://utawotomosu.b...-entry-234.html

Edited by 咲耶姫, 29 December 2013 - 09:36 AM.

[LadyGT]

Oh really? Well go figure but that's kind of weird, usually the nh fan that commented first would have definitely said it was fake. I know him so perhaps they have a better version on this interview?