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[TouKen4Life3g]

your making it seem like thats a bad thing......team 7 is sasuke's family, he has no one else. (until team taka)

sakura isn't just a team member he is part of his new family.

yes it shows he cares about naruto more, but only because naruto is his rival too. (and they share a similar past, which makes them understand the others pain)

and unlike sakura...naruto can actually get sasuke to listen to him because he has the power to MAKE him listen.

sakura is the sister
kakashi the dad
naruto the brother.

Oh no, no way I'm making Team 7 as a bad thing. It's just that usually a love interest will stick out as well as being addressed. Take Naruto for instance, he already described each of them on what level of importance they are to him. You read above post for more details.

[merryGOflava]

Oh no, no way I'm making Team 7 as a bad thing. It's just that usually a love interest will stick out as well as being addressed. Take Naruto for instance, he already described each of them on what level of importance they are to him. You read above post for more details.

love interest? 0_o im not talking about love interests...?

im just saying sakura was important to sasuke.....not in a romance type of way.

or...im just confused..?? what are we debating about XD

Edited by merryGOflava, 11 March 2013 - 07:34 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

love interest? 0_o im not talking about love interests...?

im just saying sakura was important to sasuke.....not in a romance type of way.

Lol. I think I'm stretching it by mistake. All I'm saying is that she's important but not in a higher level. Not addressing to you, just expressing my thoughts.

[redragon88]

@Sojobo

Is there any actual confirmation that Sakura is older then Naruto and Sasuke. I think we are just assuming that because her birthday is the one that comes first in the year. Sakura could've easily been born the next year.

The only confirmation we have is that Sasuke was born slightly before Naruto thanks to Kushina's flashbacks, but nothing about Sakura.

[merryGOflava]

Lol. I think I'm stretching it by mistake. All I'm saying is that she's important but not in a higher level. Not addressing to you, just expressing my thoughts.

well no lower or higher than kakashi...IMO....naruto trumps them all though.

[Sojobo]

What? the most close to it was Orochimaru/Sandaime's bond and still is not the same.

It is a strong bond, maybe as strong as Jiraiya/Naruto, but right now, the second one is stronger. Jiraiya is like his granpa.
Orochimaru we don't know very well his relationship with Sarutobi, but what I've seen, I think Orochimaru loved Sarutobi, and I think that this will be his anser to the question "why did you want to destroy Konoha?".
My thoughts : To destroy the bonds with my master.

You cant even qualify Sakura on this just show how you're insecure to define her role on his heart, the last thing he thought about family was the K11.

It's your opinion, but what I'v understood is that she's part of the one he cares like his previous family.
I don't know why his feelings for first part would be different than in part 2 ? We already saw in part 2 that he didn't forget about them.
It's an uncomfortable feeling for Sasuke, cause right now, he's suppose to hate them. But deep inside his heart, you can tell if you know Sasuke's character : he always cares about them, about Sakura.




And don't get me wrong, I see Sakura as a big sister to him, not more...

I will. I already requested it, and now, I'm playing the waiting game.

Thank you.

Lol. I think I'm stretching it by mistake. All I'm saying is that she's important but not in a higher level. Not addressing to you, just expressing my thoughts.

Yup, that is what we want to explain.
We never talked about love interest. Sasuke cares about Sakura, it's not a special feeling as for Naruto, but he cares about her like he cares about Kakashi.
Like Sakon said, his friends are like his family. And seeing someone like a family member has to be an important feeling.

Edited by Sojobo, 11 March 2013 - 07:47 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

your making it seem like thats a bad thing......team 7 is sasuke's family, he has no one else. (until team taka)

sakura isn't just a team member he is part of his new family.

yes it shows he cares about naruto more, but only because naruto is his rival too. (and they share a similar past, which makes them understand the others pain)

and unlike sakura...naruto can actually get sasuke to listen to him because he has the power to MAKE him listen.

sakura is the sister
kakashi the dad
naruto the brother.

Just remembered now.

Sakura's bond to Sasuke is compared to Kakashi's bond to Rin.
The setting is the same.
She's just a teammate.
Look at Obito.
Kakashi's most treasured bond on team 7 was with Obito the same with Sasuke and Naruto.
THey even got on similar situations on Kakashi's 3 chapters.
Kakashi also protect Rin and when he killed Rin, what hurt Kakashi the most was the fact that he could not keep the promise not the fact he actually killed her.

Obito's flashback was pratically team 7 on a nutshell.
Obito had a lot of friends, but the fact that Rin died was strong enough for him to go evil.
The same for Naruto, Naruto loves Sakura what would happen to him if she died, Neji died and he was wavering.
You can simply pick Kakashi and swap with Sasuke and you will know his bonds.

It is a strong bond, maybe as strong as Jiraiya/Naruto, but right now, the second one is stronger. Jiraiya is like his granpa.
Orochimaru we don't know very well his relationship with Sarutobi, but what I've seen, I think Orochimaru loved Sarutobi, and I think that this will be his anser to the question "why did you want to destroy Konoha?".
My thoughts : To destroy the bonds with my master.

It's your opinion, but what I'v understood is that she's part of the one he cares like his previous family.
I don't know why his feelings for first part would be different than in part 2 ? We already saw in part 2 that he didn't forget about them.
It's an uncomfortable feeling for Sasuke, cause right now, he's suppose to hate them. But deep inside his heart, you can tell if you know Sasuke's character : he always cares about them, about Sakura.

Strong enough to try to kill her two times.
HIs bond with the k11 is something that is on his heart but not Sakura alone.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 11 March 2013 - 07:48 PM.

[Sojobo]

@Sojobo

Is there any actual confirmation that Sakura is older then Naruto and Sasuke. I think we are just assuming that because her birthday is the one that comes first in the year. Sakura could've easily been born the next year.

The only confirmation we have is that Sasuke was born slightly before Naruto thanks to Kushina's flashbacks, but nothing about Sakura.

I think I saw it in Databook. I'm not so sure anymore.
Sasuke is older than Naruto, that's confirmed, he was born before him.

Strong enough to try to kill her two times.
HIs bond with the k11 is something that is on his heart but not Sakura alone.

This doesn't mean anything anymore, cause we know why he did. (Uchiha's curse)
He tried to pierce Naruto's heart, he tried to kill Kakashi with an ultra speed Suusanoo attack that kills instantly, and that can't be dodged without special abilities, he ignored the existence of Kamui. He tried to kill Sakura, he tried to kill Karin, to kill Itachi.

It doesn't mean anything anymore, cause we know he's not himself when he's doing this.
And don't tell me Itachi's case is different. Of course he wanted to kill him because of the hate he felt for him, but in this hate, there was love, love that didn't dissapear.

Edited by Sojobo, 11 March 2013 - 07:55 PM.

[redragon88]

I think I saw it in Databook. I'm not so sure anymore.
Sasuke is older than Naruto, that's confirmed, he was born before him.

I don't know if Narutopedia took this information from the databook, but according to them these are the ages in Part 2:

Naruto: 15-16
Sakura: 15-16
Sasuke: 16

This would imply that both Naruto and Sakura started at 15 in the beginning of Part 2 but eventually turned 16, but Sasuke was already 16 to begin with. Based on this I speculate he's the oldest of the group.

[merryGOflava]

Just remembered now.

Sakura's bond to Sasuke is compared to Kakashi's bond to Rin.
The setting is the same.
She's just a teammate.
Look at Obito.
Kakashi's most treasured bond on team 7 was with Obito the same with Sasuke and Naruto.
THey even got on similar situations on Kakashi's 3 chapters.
Kakashi also protect Rin and when he killed Rin, what hurt Kakashi the most was the fact that he could not keep the promise not the fact he actually killed her.

Obito's flashback was pratically team 7 on a nutshell.
Obito had a lot of friends, but the fact that Rin died was strong enough for him to go evil.
The same for Naruto, Naruto loves Sakura what would happen to him if she died, Neji died and he was wavering.
You can simply pick Kakashi and swap with Sasuke and you will know his bonds.

what? I disagree.....by like..alot XD rin was important to kakashi

the problem is kakashi and sasuke both don't show there emotions much......they are like this --> most of the time.
plus the fact obito and naruto fight with kakashi and sasuke...which causes them to react to them more.

but I think kakashi cared about rin alot
and we don't know the reason why he killed rin and if he was just worrying about obito's promise.

[StrikerTheNoble]

I don't know if Narutopedia took this information from the databook, but according to them these are the ages in Part 2:

Naruto: 15-16
Sakura: 15-16
Sasuke: 16

This would imply that both Naruto and Sakura started at 15 in the beginning of Part 2 but eventually turned 16, but Sasuke was already 16 to begin with. Based on this I speculate he's the oldest of the group.

Is it wrong to have a thing for Sakura? Given that were the same age?

[Sojobo]

but I think kakashi cared about rin alot

He awakened Mangekyou Sharingan, he cried when killing her, it's so obvious he cared a lot about her.
Was it love ? We don't know, but Rin was probably the most important person after Obito in Kakashi's heart.

[merryGOflava]

He awakened Mangekyou Sharingan, he cried when killing her, it's so obvious he cared a lot about her.
Was it love ? We don't know, but Rin was probably the most important person after Obito in Kakashi's heart.

ya what he/she said >:U

Edited by merryGOflava, 11 March 2013 - 08:14 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

He awakened Mangekyou Sharingan, he cried when killing her, it's so obvious he cared a lot about her.
Was it love ? We don't know, but Rin was probably the most important person after Obito in Kakashi's heart.

It's hard to say. You know, I thought that because it was Obito's eyes and he's alive, it was pointing towards more to Obito rather than Kakashi. Kakashi does care for Rin, of course. It's just that Kakashi's main bond is with Obito, especially how he brought him up many times. So maybe since the eye belongs to Obito, the effect went full effect when Rin died. Get it?

[Sojobo]

It's hard to say. You know, I thought that because it was Obito's eyes and he's alive, it was pointing towards more to Obito rather than Kakashi. Kakashi does care for Rin, of course. It's just that Kakashi's main bond is with Obito, especially how he brought him up many times. So maybe since the eye belongs to Obito, the effect went full effect when Rin died. Get it?

Obito said it himself, even awakening the Mangekyou Sharingan.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Obito said it himself, even awakening the Mangekyou Sharingan.

While I may agree with you, to be fair, it's more of like activating at any time, not the fact because he awakened on that day. Actually, maybe I am right. I mean, why Obito awakened it as well? That would mean the eye effect was more connected to Obito's heart than Kakashi. Then again, we just have to wait and see. You get what I'm trying to say though, right?

[Sojobo]

While I may agree with you, to be fair, it's more of like activating at any time, not the fact because he awakened on that day. Actually, maybe I am right. I mean, why Obito awakened it as well? That would mean the eye effect was more connected to Obito's heart than Kakashi. Then again, we just have to wait and see. You get what I'm trying to say though, right?

Yes I understand what you try to say. ^^
Anyway, we'll see.

[StrikerTheNoble]

Yes I understand what you try to say. ^^
Anyway, we'll see.

And while you wait check out the new stuff at the corner. Honestly would it kill you guys to reply after reading the new stuff so i dont have to double post everytime i make a new one.

[merryGOflava]

While I may agree with you, to be fair, it's more of like activating at any time, not the fact because he awakened on that day. Actually, maybe I am right. I mean, why Obito awakened it as well? That would mean the eye effect was more connected to Obito's heart than Kakashi. Then again, we just have to wait and see. You get what I'm trying to say though, right?

it awakened in obito also because he had the same eyes. (pair of eyes......eye?.........you know what I mean!)

kakashi awakened his when he killed rin, obito didn't know what was going on until he got there. sure he saw images of rin..but he still didn't know what was going on..he thought he was imagining things.

and can't you only awaken it if you kill someone close to you? or something?? i forget?

obito didn't kill anyone.....at that time....

[TouKen4Life3g]

it awakened in obito also because he had the same eyes. (pair of eyes......eye?.........you know what I mean!)

kakashi awakened his when he killed rin, obito didn't know what was going on until he got there. sure he saw images of rin..but he still didn't know what was going on..he thought he was imagining things.

and can't you only awaken it if you kill someone close to you? or something?? i forget?

obito didn't kill anyone.....at that time....

Here's the thing:

Kakashi has Obito's sharingan eye. Obito wasn't dead. Kakashi killed Rin with Obito's eye still in use. What if the eye only address to the original owner, not anyone who owns. Pretty much, even if Kakashi kills Rin like a foe, the eye will still get the effect because Obito's love was Rin and he's still alive. It's hard to say. Funny, if Sasuke wants the special eye, wouldn't he just go for Sakura? In fact, he even said it himself that Naruto is the closest person to him, so I guess that negates the ideal of love, wouldn't it?