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[rocci]

 
So in other words... I'm pathetic    SS for example and how the way Sasuke treated Sakura's character in the past. He nearly killed her like three times and put her down in front of Team 7. And its no secret the Kishi self inserts his personal life into his work and characters. Just take Oda's comment about Kishi's wife looks like Sakura at Kishi's wedding for an example. 

Catsi has a point.
You can't judge someone real life based on his fiction work.

[Nostradamus]

Catsi has a point.
You can't judge someone real life based on his fiction work.

Yes and no. Because it does say some things about them, now to which degree those things are true we don't really know.

Edited by Nostradamus, 19 July 2015 - 10:22 PM.

[Yyubie]

And it started right away - not long after 700, he says NH/SS was "planned" only three months before (which would actually be more believable given how sudden and forced it all was coupled with the extremely lack of mutual, much less romantic, development), then just a week later, in another interview, he says it was "planned since the beginning".

THIS!!! I know right, he always contradict each of his own interview, I don't know what the hell did he thinking, or what he want or maybe he gone crazy.

[rocci]

Yes and no. Because it does say some things about them, now to which degree those things are true we don't really know.

That's why we should just leave it alone.
We simply don't know his personal life.
Kishi may be a really bad writer, but he may not be a bad father or husband.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Catsi has a point.
You can't judge someone real life based on his fiction work.

 

And by all means kishi should have kept his mouth shut about inserting his life into his work. Its the reason why my colleagues at work are making fun of him because of the forehead jab that connects the SS bonds. If an author is going to insert part of his/her life into their work, they will have to endure the consequences that their audience is going to talk smack about them. Even some Jap posted on 2chan similar to my topic

 

 

 

“What the hell is the top Shounen Jump quality manga, my memories as reader have been tarnished. The writer definitely wrote for his own kids to read it. But for what reason you’d publish in a professional magazine when it’s about your own personal feelings. Usually someone would know how to divide private and public situations, and usually someone should understand that projecting about his own problems will sound more like ton of kitten.
He should have some self-awareness…this mangaka makes no sense.”

[catsi563]

I am not calling anyone out by name. Im calling the behavior in general out.

While Kishimoto himself may have earned our ire, and his writing and blatant mishandling of the story and character is well and truly cringe worthy, it in no way excuses us from launching ridiculous ad hominem attacks on the mans personal life, and marriage are simply out of line.

 

I've heard enough of that bullcrap from NH/SS fans throwing death threats his way when Sakura confessed, and when Minato said Sakura was like Kushina. Then we go and childishly pull the same routine? how does this elevate the dialogue and argue the point of what were discussing?

 

Say the Last was terrible, I'm there with you. Say the manga was horribly handled and ended on a ridiculous note, im right there with you.

 

Say the mans a pedophile that sacrafices goats to cthullu and beats his wife behind closed doors, while bathing in the blood of virgins and other riduclous tripe and im going to call you out on it.

 

I don't want to see this fandom and this place in particular where I've grown fond of a great many people here go off the rails like that.

[rocci]

@konohafirefox
Does it has something to do with his marriage life? We simply doesn't has any hard evidence that he's an abusive husband based on a terrible canon pairing in his own manga.

He use his private life as a source in his story is not new. The minakushi flashback has something to do with his father.

I agree that he should just shut up his mouth. He doesn't do any help.
But in the other seeing the kitteny he do is hilarious and fun lol.

[Yyubie]

@konohafirefox
Does it has something to do with his marriage life? We simply doesn't has any hard evidence that he's an abusive husband based on a terrible canon pairing in his own manga.

He use his private life as a source in his story is not new. The minakushi flashback has something to do with his father.

I agree that he should just shut up his mouth. He doesn't do any help.
But in the other seeing the kitteny he do is hilarious and fun lol.

If that's true then why did he said all NS development is red herring? Is he trying to insult his own father?

 

His father just pass away few months ago if i remember.

[RyohkiFan]

 
Show them to us, Ryoryo 

I'll post them if someone is willing to translate lol

[Shadow1275]

Even Hitler believes us

 

 

Meanwhile on Narusaku.com.....

 

Edited by Shadow1275, 20 July 2015 - 01:21 AM.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Meanwhile on Narusaku.com.....

 

[Nar123]

If that's true then why did he said all NS development is red herring? Is he trying to insult his own father?
 
His father just pass away few months ago if i remember.

*a few years

[Gaara's hair]

Juuuuust a bit off.

[Nostradamus]

 

That's epic.

I can't believe they made him into this guy:

[Nicholas Wolfwood]

http://sparda3g.tumb...-your-favourite

Have fun.

Assuming the translation is correct, Kishi essentially said that he deliberately avoided writing a reason for Sakura to like Sasuke because he couldn't think of a legitimate one. He's basically left with:

 

1) She likes him because he's the most popular guy in school

2) She likes him because he's (according to every female character who ever crossed his path) "hot"

 

And my favorite reason:

 

3) She likes him because Ino likes him and she's pursuing him to spite Ino

 

Sakura is doing exactly what she accuses Naruto of doing in The Last, chasing after somebody in an act of competition with a rival.  But thanks to retcon no jutsu, we know that Naruto is so stupid that he can't differentiate the feeling of love for a person from the love of a cup of ramen. Thus Sakura's unreasonable and inexplicable addiction (Kishi's own description) to Sasuke is now "true love" while Naruto only "liked" Sakura to spite Sasuke... who never gave a damn about her in the first place. In fact, considering he's never been able to think of a valid reason for Sakura to like Sasuke, how in the world could he hope to explain how a guy who never showed any affection for her in 698 chapters out of a 700 chapter story is supposed to suddenly fall in love with and marry her?

 

Ironically, with the silly flashback scene where Sasuke rescued a young Karin in the Forest of Death, Karin has a more legitimate reason for being in love with Sasuke than Sakura does.

 

And everybody wonders why Gaiden was such a train wreck...

Edited by Nicholas Wolfwood, 20 July 2015 - 04:20 AM.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

@konohafirefox
Does it has something to do with his marriage life? We simply doesn't has any hard evidence that he's an abusive husband based on a terrible canon pairing in his own manga.

He use his private life as a source in his story is not new. The minakushi flashback has something to do with his father.

I agree that he should just shut up his mouth. He doesn't do any help.
But in the other seeing the kitteny he do is hilarious and fun lol.

 

The topic is just speculation based off his bad writing and terrible depiction of his cast, mainly the females. I don't know why several members take as what I said is very legit. Even several members in the past and some people on tumblr made comments about "is this the way Kishi treats his wife", depicting Sakura's character in the end. it's not normal that you see an author based his heroine or ex-heroine off of his wife to be a near carbon of the author's spouse and ends up trashing/bashing his character.

 

Yes the MK flashback has something to do with his father, mainly that Misashi and Seishi's father said that he loved the family bonds in the RTN. And the sad thing about it is that their father passed away right after chapter 631 came out. That is where other speculations and theories came from that Kishi is suffering from depression because of his father's passing. 

Edited by Konoha'sCrimsonFox, 20 July 2015 - 08:23 AM.

[RamenxBlossom]

All right everyone.

 

How about we just stop all talk of Kishi's personal life from now. The thread has started to take a very skewed direction that we do not need.

 

Let's just get back to the topic at hand 'kay? 

[Shashank95]

= Stupidity

Well...........Damn..  

Edited by Shashank95, 20 July 2015 - 01:50 PM.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

 

Well...........Damn..  

 

Our existence really bothers them that much    

[rocci]

Sasuke smile!!!!!!
Yeah whatever.