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#12401 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 01:53 AM

can you link to it? i have never heard this mentioned before.

 

Warning: lots of fans screaming.



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Posted 24 December 2013 - 02:48 AM

Wow, I havent signed in for awhile. I love the new layout-- the fanart is gorg. :)
 

About the NaruSaku script at JF, have you found any other info on it? A lot of tweets simply gush over SasuSaku for some reason. Perhaps Chie and Sugiyama just did a good job reenacting their scene together LOL.

 

 

 

Let's clarify a bit here about the JF

-On the Naruto's stage were present, as guests, Kishimoto Masashi and the author of "Rock Lee's Springtime of Youth" Kenji Taira. And Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura and Kakashi's voice actors, of course.

-They asked to voice actors to draw a war scene that have impressed them the most. For some twist of fate, Sugiyama and Nakamura (respectively, the Sasuke and Sakura's VA) drew the scene of Sasuke where he said "I want to become Hokage". Therefore, Naruto and Kakashi VAs teased them (Kakashi's VA: "Isn't Sasuke and Sakura getting awell together?" Naruto's VA "Sure!") in front of the audience and they blushed a little. I would venture to say that've flirted despite Miss Nakamura is married LOL.
 

Yeah, I saw this posted on narutoforums. apparently the trans word for word goes as:

 

次に中村千絵さんのイラスト。やはりこれもサスケの「火影になる」宣言の所でした。途端に井上 さんから「サ スケとサクラ一緒じゃないの、さすがに仲が良いねぇ〜」との茶化しが入ります。「そうだそうだ 」と竹内さん 。慌てて否定する杉山さんと中村さんに再び笑いに包まれる場内。

Next was the turn of Nakamura Chie's drawing. As expected, it also depicted Sasuke's 'I'll become Hokage' declaration. As soon as she was done, Inoue-san started poking fun at her, saying 'Aren't Sasuke and Sakura together? As I thought, they're getting along, aren't they?'. Takeuchi-san replied with 'Indeed, indeed'. Sugiyama-san and Nakamura-san became flustered and denied it, and the audience was wrapped up in laughter again.

 

 



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Posted 24 December 2013 - 03:18 AM

 

Warning: lots of fans screaming.

I never realized so many women were fans of avatar. 


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Posted 24 December 2013 - 03:56 AM

I never realized so many women were fans of avatar. 

This also counts to Naruto as well. If I remember a while back, there was a research and there are many women reading Naruto. I don't know the percent, but I heard it was really high.

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 04:33 AM

Wait what?

How can he ever want to become hokage after killing Naruto?

I think you misunderstood. I was saying maybe Kishi will explain in more depth the reason why Sasuke wants to become Hokage since his talk with the 4 Hokage. Even if we alreaady know it, it's possible that he expains it more. To me, Kishi's sentence had nothing to do with Sasuke's will to kill Naruto, but more with his will to become Hokage regarding the context in which he said that. 

But it would be more interesting to explain Sasuke's motives to kill Naruto, though I have an idea.... Jealousy and envy over his power?


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Posted 24 December 2013 - 06:57 AM

Wow, I havent signed in for awhile. I love the new layout-- the fanart is gorg. :)
 
About the NaruSaku script at JF, have you found any other info on it? A lot of tweets simply gush over SasuSaku for some reason. Perhaps Chie and Sugiyama just did a good job reenacting their scene together LOL.
 
 
 
Yeah, I saw this posted on narutoforums. apparently the trans word for word goes as:
 
次に中村千絵さんのイラスト。やはりこれもサスケの「火影になる」宣言の所でした。途端に井上 さんから「サ スケとサクラ一緒じゃないの、さすがに仲が良いねぇ〜」との茶化しが入ります。「そうだそうだ 」と竹内さん 。慌てて否定する杉山さんと中村さんに再び笑いに包まれる場内。

Next was the turn of Nakamura Chie's drawing. As expected, it also depicted Sasuke's 'I'll become Hokage' declaration. As soon as she was done, Inoue-san started poking fun at her, saying 'Aren't Sasuke and Sakura together? As I thought, they're getting along, aren't they?'. Takeuchi-san replied with 'Indeed, indeed'. Sugiyama-san and Nakamura-san became flustered and denied it, and the audience was wrapped up in laughter again.
 
 

Hey! I was actually wondering where you had gone just earlier today, haha. Welcome back!

Thanks for that info. If you find any more, please share it with us! :)

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 05:19 PM

I think you misunderstood. I was saying maybe Kishi will explain in more depth the reason why Sasuke wants to become Hokage since his talk with the 4 Hokage. Even if we alreaady know it, it's possible that he expains it more. To me, Kishi's sentence had nothing to do with Sasuke's will to kill Naruto, but more with his will to become Hokage regarding the context in which he said that. 

But it would be more interesting to explain Sasuke's motives to kill Naruto, though I have an idea.... Jealousy and envy over his power?

 

sasuke might want to become hokage because of those reasons to. However he might want to become hokage for the sake of his clan ,selfish reasons or to prevent another genocide of a particular group due to messed up political reasons.



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Posted 24 December 2013 - 05:35 PM

Being honest NaruSasu and KakIru is more popular than NaruSaku and Sasusaku just look at look at the amount of doujins.

 

No no no! Don't use the subculture of doujinshi to define what the popular pairing is. It gives you an extremely skewed point of view. Authors of MxM pairings (yaoi) are mostly female, and their work is directed to other females. Doujinshi do NOT have the same audience target as the canon manga. On top of that, these authors most used mediums are doujinshi and the internet. So it's not surprising that you will see a ton of more yaoi related work online and in doujinshi. It's not to say that yaoi isn't a big thing. But your statement comes from misconception.

 

Isn't that just because of the fujoshi crowd though? I highly doubt that teenage males are the ones going crazy over these yaoi pairings. I think when it comes to romance it's probably easier to be discussed among women and it is among men. So while it's true that they seem more popular, in reality the main demographic of Naruto  should favor the more traditional pairings like NaruSaku.

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 05:38 PM

 

No no no! Don't use the subculture of doujinshi to define what the popular pairing is. It gives you an extremely skewed point of view. Authors of MxM pairings (yaoi) are mostly female, and their work is directed to other females. Doujinshi do NOT have the same audience target as the canon manga. On top of that, these authors most used mediums are doujinshi and the internet. So it's not surprising that you will see a ton of more yaoi related work online and in doujinshi. It's not to say that yaoi isn't a big thing. But your statement comes from misconception.

 

But that SJ pairing pool gives yet two Yaoi pairings on the first and second place.

And it's KakaIru and NaruSasu.


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Posted 24 December 2013 - 06:03 PM

But that SJ pairing pool gives yet two Yaoi pairings on the first and second place.

And it's KakaIru and NaruSasu.

 

Instead of using the number of doujinshi that you see, you are using the number found on a poll. It's the same argument.


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Posted 24 December 2013 - 06:54 PM

 

Instead of using the number of doujinshi that you see, you are using the number found on a poll. It's the same argument.

Then how do people measure the popularity of a pairing?

based on posts on the internet? 

 

ns is simply more popular than SS because it consumes more products and has more officials products to sell and obviously those are based on polls.

The difference is that Yaoi pairings are crack and the fact it brings a lot of controversy, Naruto and Sasuke kiss at chater 3 bought up a lot of controversy on western countries and the scene where Konohamaru does a Sexy no Jutsu(yaoi version) on Sakura got censored on the anime(it was simply cut off and the scene was modified).

Naruto Shipp. Episode 90.


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Posted 24 December 2013 - 08:42 PM

So I have read myself what happened at the JF this year... Now it explains why the story decreased this low. Not even the author knows what he's doing... which is sad... And as he said, this story is all about Sasuke, with a little bit of Naruto cause he's the hero but that's it. Everyone else is like inexistent.

Oh well, I guess I will move on from the series...


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Posted 24 December 2013 - 08:51 PM

So I have read myself what happened at the JF this year... Now it explains why the story decreased this low. Not even the author knows what he's doing... which is sad... And as he said, this story is all about Sasuke, with a little bit of Naruto cause he's the hero but that's it. Everyone else is like inexistent.

Oh well, I guess I will move on from the series...

I thought Kishi was joking and i didnt took it seriously.


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Posted 24 December 2013 - 09:04 PM

 

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man.... those Zutara fans got trolled! XD hardcore!

 

I never knew about shipping when I watched Avatar....so I missed the crazy war XD I always assumed kataang was gonna happen. (and it did)

 

but if I watched this trailer....I would have second guessed myself XD dang bryke...why'd they do that to those poor fans???


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Posted 24 December 2013 - 10:26 PM

 
man.... those Zutara fans got trolled! XD hardcore!
 
I never knew about shipping when I watched Avatar....so I missed the crazy war XD I always assumed kataang was gonna happen. (and it did)
 
but if I watched this trailer....I would have second guessed myself XD dang bryke...why'd they do that to those poor fans???

Likewise. The point here is two things at least to me:

-Guys like to screw the fandom's head. *cough* RtN ads *cough*
-Fans will eat it up and hunger for more.

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 10:29 PM

So I have read myself what happened at the JF this year... Now it explains why the story decreased this low. Not even the author knows what he's doing... which is sad... And as he said, this story is all about Sasuke, with a little bit of Naruto cause he's the hero but that's it. Everyone else is like inexistent.
Oh well, I guess I will move on from the series...

The Sasuke part sounds like you got the wrong translation. To be honest, not many here take it serious about everything being said. Heck, even at NF. The guy was there told us the wrong reports by mistake the first time. The second time is much more clear. It is said that the defeat part is rather taken as a joke but hard to say for us. You're taking it too hard. I'm not trying to change your mind, but like the whole "Hinata is a better heroine," don't get the wrong idea.

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 11:42 PM

So I have read myself what happened at the JF this year... Now it explains why the story decreased this low. Not even the author knows what he's doing... which is sad... And as he said, this story is all about Sasuke, with a little bit of Naruto cause he's the hero but that's it. Everyone else is like inexistent.

Oh well, I guess I will move on from the series...

 

he didnt say this. But you're free to say whatever you want. And Kishimoto just answered to some questions that they asked him at the stage. And they have asked him only 4 things:

1)About Naruto's conclusion

2)About Sasuke's wish to be Hokage

3)About how will be defeated Madara

4)Why Naruto doesn't have a mascot

 

Even though he said that he still don't know how to defeat Madara, this doesn't mean that he don't know about the other stuff.

 

Bleach is even 10times worse, especially the last 100 chapters.


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Posted 24 December 2013 - 11:48 PM

 

he didnt say this. But you're free to say whatever you want. And Kishimoto just answered to some questions that they asked him at the stage. And they have asked him only 4 things:

1)About Naruto's conclusion

2)About Sasuke's wish to be Hokage

3)About how will be defeated Madara

4)Why Naruto doesn't have a mascot

 

Even though he said that he still don't know how to defeat Madara, this doesn't mean that he don't know about the other stuff.

 

Bleach is even 10times worse, especially the last 100 chapters.

What? Pakkun doesn't sell?



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Posted 24 December 2013 - 11:51 PM

What? Pakkun doesn't sell?

 

I don't think so. He replied that he thought that lil akamaru would have filled it perfectly as mascot but he noticed that he isn't lile anymore but just a big dog xD. Then he said that Gamakichi would be also a mascot but he made growing too LOL

 

I must to say... What kinda useless questions they made at JF? Who on the earth cares about Naruto's mascot. For god's sake, you have Kishimoto in front of you and you just ask him about naruto's mascot? What a waste of time.


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Posted 24 December 2013 - 11:51 PM

 

man.... those Zutara fans got trolled! XD hardcore!

 

I never knew about shipping when I watched Avatar....so I missed the crazy war XD I always assumed kataang was gonna happen. (and it did)

 

but if I watched this trailer....I would have second guessed myself XD dang bryke...why'd they do that to those poor fans???

its not bryke's fault  zutara  fans just felt that it was gonna be endgame however they had little character development in the pairing aspect so kataang was obviously gonna be the winner in that pairing war


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